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406Rich

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Ran across this Buffalo drill press with a lifting head, never seen one before...not mine its on market place.
 

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406Rich said:
Ran across this Buffalo drill press with a lifting head, never seen one before...not mine its on market place.
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I had one of those. Heavy as hell but it was a bit of a PIA to fasten anything to the table. You would need to drill and tap holes in the base and mount a drilled and taped sub base to secure anything. That is fine for production which is what it was meant for but not great for one offs in a hobby shop. Drilled wonderfully, however.
 
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Canadian Buffalo floor model. Hoover motor I believe to be the original just needed to clean the on/off switch.
 

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I had one of those. Heavy as hell but it was a bit of a PIA to fasten anything to the table. You would need to drill and tap holes in the base and mount a drilled and taped sub base to secure anything. That is fine for production which is what it was meant for but not great for one offs in a hobby shop. Drilled wonderfully, however.
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Agreed, production table units aren't for most, especially home owners. Can be down right dangerous to the unknowing.
 
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406Rich said:
Ran across this Buffalo drill press with a lifting head, never seen one before...not mine its on market place.
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My Canedy-Otto has all the makings for a lift head and when I get back to it I'm going to put the gears and crank on it. It already has the lift table. I've already bought the parts.
 
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First post here. First old tool. First drill press. Lots of firsts. :D

1945 Delta Milwaukee 17 with production table and MT2 quill. Hoping it has the slow speed gear set.
 

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Outlawmws said:
My Canedy-Otto has all the makings for a lift head and when I get back to it I'm going to put the gears and crank on it. It already has the lift table. I've already bought the parts.
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Did not know you had a Canedy-Otto... so do I.....:beer: Mine sort of has a lifting head...
 

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Mine is a more conventional head, not a camel back. a Royal 18 to be specific.

I also have a mini bench mounted camel back Canedy-Otto - a baby compared to yours. no base; a flange bolts to the bench...
 
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Here's mine. Picked this up some years ago. Pretty much 100% original condition, down to the cord, which is surprisingly still in perfect shape. I added the multi-speed attachment and link belts earlier this year, which was definitely worth the expense:

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I really like the styling on these, how well built and easy they are to work on.

Currently hunting for a second one, just because. :thumbup:
 

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I snagged a Delta DP-220 for $85 this summer. Bought it from the grandson of the original owner. Still has its original light fixture. Near zero no runout. No idea how old it is other than the last patent listed on the tag is from '37. Here's a pic of the serial # tag.
 

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I snagged a Delta DP-220 for $85 this summer. Bought it from the grandson of the original owner. Still has its original light fixture. Near zero no runout. No idea how old it is other than the last patent listed on the tag is from '37. Here's a pic of the serial # tag.
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Any other pictures? This one is a good one of the tag but shows nothing else? Any overall shots?


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SP3 said:
I snagged a Delta DP-220 for $85 this summer. Bought it from the grandson of the original owner. Still has its original light fixture. Near zero no runout. No idea how old it is other than the last patent listed on the tag is from '37. Here's a pic of the serial # tag.
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Post up some better pictures please.
heck, You got a good deal on the OEM light, and a "free drill press" thrown in!!!!!~:bounce::bounce:
 
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It drills small holes in metals easily (1/2" is max I've tried). I am working on building up an intermediate pulley so I can slow things for larger holes. It will also get a 1/4" thick aluminum plate between it and the drawer set/stand it's on to stiffen things up. Looking for a cross slide, too.
 

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SP3 said:
It drills small holes in metals easily (1/2" is max I've tried). I am working on building up an intermediate pulley so I can slow things for larger holes. It will also get a 1/4" thick aluminum plate between it and the drawer set/stand it's on to stiffen things up. Looking for a cross slide, too.
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If you paid $85 for that, let me be the first to say you ****! That is in amazing shape given its age. Just needs to be lubricated and loved!


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SP3 said:
It drills small holes in metals easily (1/2" is max I've tried). I am working on building up an intermediate pulley so I can slow things for larger holes. It will also get a 1/4" thick aluminum plate between it and the drawer set/stand it's on to stiffen things up. Looking for a cross slide, too.
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One sweet deal you got....! :beer:
 
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Whats the consensus on installing the treadmill motors, I acquired a 2.5 HP treadmill motor, thinking about using it with a variable speed control. pros/cons any help appreciated. I've watched half a dozen or so videos on them...:headscrat
 
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SP3 said:
It drills small holes in metals easily (1/2" is max I've tried). I am working on building up an intermediate pulley so I can slow things for larger holes. It will also get a 1/4" thick aluminum plate between it and the drawer set/stand it's on to stiffen things up. Looking for a cross slide, too.
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Sweet press WITH the retirement light! Yes you do indeed ****.
 
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Whats the consensus on installing the treadmill motors, I acquired a 2.5 HP treadmill motor, thinking about using it with a variable speed control. pros/cons any help appreciated. I've watched half a dozen or so videos on them...:headscrat
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Usually the HP rating is vastly overrated. A lot I have seen run pretty fast for use in metal. Yes, the speed can be electronically lowered but the torque remains constant (i.e. if you half the speed, the HP is also halved). You can add extra reduction pulleys but that makes for more complexity.

When I needed variable speed on drill presses I went with industrial DC motors, usually 1725 rpm. They have a real horsepower rating. I usually picked them up from surplus dealers or found good deals for them on Ebay. I usually go with Baldor or Leeson. Similarly, used or NOS industrial speed controls are pretty cheap on Ebay.
 
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Usually the HP rating is vastly overrated. A lot I have seen run pretty fast for use in metal. Yes, the speed can be electronically lowered but the torque remains constant (i.e. if you half the speed, the HP is also halved). You can add extra reduction pulleys but that makes for more complexity.

When I needed variable speed on drill presses I went with industrial DC motors, usually 1725 rpm. They have a real horsepower rating. I usually picked them up from surplus dealers or found good deals for them on Ebay. I usually go with Baldor or Leeson. Similarly, used or NOS industrial speed controls are pretty cheap on Ebay.
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Thanks for the info..
 
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406Rich said:
Whats the consensus on installing the treadmill motors, I acquired a 2.5 HP treadmill motor, thinking about using it with a variable speed control. pros/cons any help appreciated. I've watched half a dozen or so videos on them...:headscrat
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The challenges are the mounting, the pulley and the electronic controller.

Treadmill motors are usually face mount and most DP's use a base mount. The next challenge will be mounting the pulley. (Shaft size, length, etc.) You might not be able to even mount the original DP pulley onto a treadmill motor. You can usually use a single step pulley but that will preclude the ability to pick and change to the most optimal pulley steps.

The next challenge will be to get the controller components and mount it in an enclosure (usually quite large).

Unless you have a cheap treadmill motor and all the electronics then it might not be worth the hassle.

IMHO a 1+ H.P. 3 phase motor and VFD is a much simpler project. (basically plug and play). The VFD is small and self contained and you can usually find cheap 3 phase motors with the right shaft dimensions and mount.
 
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