Show us your handplanes

[bmwrd0]

Drives, wood-bodied planes are also apparently used for green wood. They don't stick. (I read to much about wooden boats) So it makes sense for those long wood planes to be for 2 bys.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Happened to take a pic a few days ago of my mostly Stanley hand planes. I think the two smallest might not be Stanley, everything else is. On second thought one of those block planes also may not be a Stanley (next to the blue and red block plane).

I will have to peruse this thread. Didn't know about it.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Like I was saying, there's some pretty amazing hand plane collections out there...... This particular collection consists of mostly mint, NOS original condition, Stanley hand planes.

Jim C.

What a shame. These planes should be in shops being used. I'd certainly prefer them in photos like this versus going to the scrap yard or rusting in someone's basement but they are just too beautiful and utilitarian to sit unused. IMHO.

Edit: Jim C, I'm not dissing you or your collection. It is amazing but hopefully, you understand where I'm coming from.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Chamfering is an age old woodworking technique for relieving sharp corner edges. Under stress and use, the wood fibers on a sharp edge wear away and round over. Chamfering is a way to dress the edges to prevent uneven wear. Chamfered edges also add visual interest. So of course, Stanley made a chamfer plane. Not only that, they actually made a chamfer plane set. The base plane was used to make chamfered edges on stock with the blade adjustable so you could vary the width of the chamfer. An additional bullnose bed was added so you could plane to the stopped edge of stock. Later they added an adjustable scratch stock bed so you could scratch a decorative moulding on the chamfered edge.

I use this plane frequently in my woodshop. Rare is the woodworking project that could not be improved with a chamfered edge.

I was looking at this plane this morning on supertool Blood & Gore website and thinking how useful it would be! Nice plane Jim!

 

[crguy]

What a shame. These planes should be in shops being used. I'd certainly prefer them in photos like this versus going to the scrap yard or rusting in someone's basement but they are just too beautiful and utilitarian to sit unused. IMHO.

Edit: Jim C, I'm not dissing you or your collection. It is amazing but hopefully, you understand where I'm coming from.

Ridiculous: Those planes are being carefully preserved - not rusting in someone's basement, etc.

Plus, there are plenty of other planes out there for the people that want to use them.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

I came back to the end of the thread to update my comment. I'm reading thru the thread for the first time and have only just finished reading page 1. I continue to be "haunted" by my comment regarding Jim's collection. It is truly outstanding. I'm sure I could probably spend close to a day just looking at what you've got and asking questions.

In my defense, I'll just say I love OWWM (Old WoodWorking Machines) and hand tools and think it's wonderful that these old tools and machines still function as well today as they did when new even though so many are well beyond a century in age. With that said, I like seeing them still in use. I also consider them to be of higher quality in both form and function that the majority of similar tools you can purchase today.

Jim I'm glad you and others are collecting the truly nice ones and protecting them! Please accept my apology.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

KERFING PLANE​

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(Previously posted on Woodworking 101)​

Here are some pictures of a plane I made. It's called a Kerfing Plane. Tom Fidgen has popularized them. A kerfing plane is used in hand resawing of boards. Instead of an iron, it has a saw blade. It also has an adjustable fence like a plough plane. The idea is to use it to cut a kerf along the two long edges and both ends of a board. The continuous kerf helps keep the wide blade of the frame saw on track as it saws through the board. The other pictures show a close up of the blade and fence in action and a frame saw beginning to resaw.

The frame saw is a working prototype I made from construction grade 2x4's to help figure out dimensions. It illustrates a problem I have with working prototypes - now that I have a functioning saw, the pressure to build the final version has nearly disappeared. I'm afraid it's in the When-I-Get-Around-To-It Zone now.

Very, very interesting CRS. I'd love to build one of these. I'd never heard of this. Thanks for sharing!

 

[CRSINMICH]

txlonghorn: Thanks for the compliment. Look on the Woodworking 101 thread at Post #1532. There are some photos of the completed kerfing plane and all its parts. Post #5743 shows the box that I was building. I used the kerfing plane and the frame saw to resaw the wood I used for the box.

If you haven't looked at Woodworking 101 yet then you should. You'll see some amazing things that members have built using hand tools and woodworking machines.

p.s. Tom Fidgen has a You Tube channel called The Unplugged Workshop. Lots of good viewing there.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

I knew I had a couple of other block planes. Found them. I wonder how old the Sears block plane is? Price tag of $2.29. I don't think it's ever been used. The little Stanley 110 still has the tag but the gum/paste/whatever has come undone. Anything people recommend to put it back on?

 

[Jim C.]

What a shame. These planes should be in shops being used. I'd certainly prefer them in photos like this versus going to the scrap yard or rusting in someone's basement but they are just too beautiful and utilitarian to sit unused. IMHO.

Edit: Jim C, I'm not dissing you or your collection. It is amazing but hopefully, you understand where I'm coming from.

I don’t take offense to your comments. I have an equally voluminous collection of antique user quality planes that go to work in my shop all the time. Since there’s literally thousands and thousands of user quality planes out in the world, when I find one in mint condition or NOS condition in its original box, I’m not going to be the one to alter it or devalue it by using it. They’re only NOS original once. Once you start using them, they’re not. Sometimes perseveration makes more sense. From a research perspective an NOS tool is a great way to see EXACTLY what was coming out of the Stanley factory at the time. I guess it’s just a matter of perspective. If I find one in user condition, I’ll use it. If it’s in collector condition, I’ll protect and preserve it. When I’m gone, it’ll be up to the next owner to decide.

Jim C.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

I'm wondering if anyone has information on the best source to date and type our Stanley planes? I'm aware of the Stanley Type Study and Flowchart but I think that's for bench planes. Correct? What about trying to figure out what period our other planes come from and if the components on them are period/type correct? Is this information on any website?

In the last month, I've been made aware of John Walter's tome - Antique and Collectible Stanley Planes. It sounds like this is probably the best resource/reference for what I'd like to be able to determine. However, it's out of print and worn copies are commanding from $75-$200. Any help/info would be greatly appreciated.

Right now I'm cleaning up 2 Stanley No 7s that I picked up last year. As with all the planes I have, I'd like to know the period they were made, what type they are and whether their components appear to be original. Thanks!

 

[Jim C.]

I came back to the end of the thread to update my comment. I'm reading thru the thread for the first time and have only just finished reading page 1. I continue to be "haunted" by my comment regarding Jim's collection. It is truly outstanding. I'm sure I could probably spend close to a day just looking at what you've got and asking questions.

In my defense, I'll just say I love OWWM (Old WoodWorking Machines) and hand tools and think it's wonderful that these old tools and machines still function as well today as they did when new even though so many are well beyond a century in age. With that said, I like seeing them still in use. I also consider them to be of higher quality in both form and function that the majority of similar tools you can purchase today.

Jim I'm glad you and others are collecting the truly nice ones and protecting them! Please accept my apology.

Don’t worry about!!! No offense taken. Differing opinions make the conversation interesting. There’s no right or wrong answer.

Jim C.

 

[CRSINMICH]

txlonghorn: I'm glad you asked about information relating to woodworking tools. I have bookmarked sites related to old tools for some time. I lost a lot of it when my previous computer crashed and I think my current one is about to crash. If it does then having these sites listed on GJ will make recovering them much faster.

I have more - MUCH more. If there is enough interest I'll list others. This batch is limited to STANLEY but there are many more about other tool manufacturers. If anyone wants to go WAY back in tool making history, I have a site about flint knapping.

STANLEY REFERENCE SITES​

BEDROCK: https://virginiatoolworks.com/2015/...wanted-to-know-about-stanley-bed-rock-planes/

No71 ROUTER PLANE:http://www.hyperkitten.com/tools/routers/stanley/stanley_71.html

No71 1/2 ROUTER PLANE: http://www.hyperkitten.com/tools/routers/stanley/stanley_71.5.html

No151 spokeshave type study: https://jeffpeachey.com/2008/05/05/towards-a-type-study-of-stanley-151-spokeshaves/

STANLEY RULE & LEVEL PLANES: https://www.patented-antiques.com/Tools_StanPlanes.htm

No75 Bull Nosed Rabbet plane: http://eaiainfo.org/2015/06/10/stanleys-75-bull-nose-rabbet-planes-from-the-model-shop/

Block Plane Dating: https://www.timetestedtools.net/2016/01/27/block-plane-dating/

Patents for Leonard Bailey: http://www.datamp.org/patents/search/xrefPerson.php?id=11766

STANLEY Trademarks: https://www.antique-used-tools.com/stantms.htm

 

[d42jeep]

I pulled my Kennedy carpenters box out today to add a couple of tools that I picked up recently so I took a few pictures. I have to admit I rarely use my planes.
-Don

 

[jimreed2160]

Preston Spokeshave
I wrote this one up on the Woodworking 101 thread but thought it should go here also. I was cleaning up in the shop and found this treasure waiting for its chance to go to rehab. So yesterday was its day and about an hour's worth of scrubbing and polishing resulted in a fine tool that is ready to go back to work.

I like these Preston spokeshaves because they are as much art as tools. Those Victorians sure knew how to make cast iron gems.

 

[code4pay]

Preston Spokeshave

I like these Preston spokeshaves because they are as much art as tools. Those Victorians sure knew how to make cast iron gems.

That really is beautiful.

 

[jimreed2160]

TX--Regarding your questions about dating and typing Stanley planes--Get a copy of Alvin Sellens book, The Stanley Plane. It is the best reference I have found.

 

[drivesitfar]

CRS: maybe send the OP (TRAINMAN1385) a PM and have him cut and paste your posts with the links so he can edit and add them to his first post that started this thread?

I know some day in the future i'll have my woodshop built and my woodplanes and woodworking tools out of boxes and buckets to use and would love having all the links and these threads handy to look at.

thanks again for all your help and your great research!!!

 

[txlonghorn1989]

txlonghorn: I'm glad you asked about information relating to woodworking tools. I have bookmarked sites related to old tools for some time. I lost a lot of it when my previous computer crashed and I think my current one is about to crash. If it does then having these sites listed on GJ will make recovering them much faster.

I have more - MUCH more. If there is enough interest I'll list others. This batch is limited to STANLEY but there are many more about other tool manufacturers. If anyone wants to go WAY back in tool making history, I have a site about flint knapping.
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CRS Thanks for the links!!! I've bookmarked most of them. I would certainly appreciate others as well. I know there are a host of companies that made good quality planes like Ohio, Preston, Norris, etc that myself and others should probably be considering when we look for good user planes. So please share more links and information. I'm not sure I'm interested in flint knapping but others probably are.

ALL I'm really interested in finding users that are pre-WWII for the most part. Are there Stanley planes out there but marketed under another name. I guess I'm asking did Stanley OEM planes for other companies and if they did what were the company names? Also, a discussion about what planes are equal to these pre-WWII Stanley planes would be much appreciated by me and probably others as well.

TX--Regarding your questions about dating and typing Stanley planes--Get a copy of Alvin Sellens book, The Stanley Plane. It is the best reference I have found.

Jim It was on my list of Stanley resources to purchase. Reading your comment this morning and also recently hearing the same recommendation from someone I respect as knowledgeable regarding Stanley planes who said this is the definitive book on the subject helped me pull the trigger and order a copy from Abebooks just now. Thanks!

 

[My Old Tools]

Part of my collection.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

I picked these two planes up today off Craigslist. A Stanley #5 type 11 and a #3 type 9. They're in great condition for tools over 100 years old. The bodies have little rust, irons look hardly used, all components appear correct and the rosewood knobs and totes are in fantastic shape. Whoever owned them took pretty darn good care of them. Bought them from a guy who does storage unit auctions. Oh yeah, they set me back $40 total. Lucky day!

 

[Joe Huld]

Here in my haul over the last two weeks. They are: a 131 double end adjustable block plane (with a good yoke), a type 5 603 bedrock, a #25 transitional low angle block plane (I have actually owned more #1s than 25s), a number 65 low angle block plane and finally a type 11 #3.

 

[txlonghorn1989]

Nice haul Joe! Are these users for you or for a collection?

 

[CRSINMICH]

Old Tools: What a nice selection you have. Are they users or for showing off?

Joe: That's a great group you have. Enjoy them.

tx: That No.5 jack plane should be a great user. I find myself reaching for mine first. It's a great jack-of-all-trades tool - HEY!
p.s. I've found a couple more wood working sites that might interest you. Give me a little time to get organized and I'll post them.

EDIT: I realized after I originally posted this that I had enough time right then to organize another Plane Site post. See below.

 

[CRSINMICH]

MORE HAND PLANE SITES​

HANDPLANE CENTRAL: Lots of information here. The opening page shows a picture of a Roman plane discovered in England. Planes haven't changed much in 2000 years. There is so much information on this site you'll spend hours on it. http://www.handplane.com/

MILLERS FALLS BENCH PLANE - Model Number Chart: A chart that shows which Millers Falls plane models match Stanley plane models. http://www.oldtoolheaven.com/bench/benchtable.htm

SARGENT PLANES PAGE: Lots of information on Sargent planes. (Sargent made some Craftsman models). Click Sargent Planes by Number on the Navigation tab to go to a page that identifies Sargent planes by model number.http://www.sargent-planes.com/

TIME TESTED TOOLS: A section on Dating Hand Planes. https://www.timetestedtools.net/2017/02/05/dating-hand-planes-start-page/

 

[crguy]

Here in my haul over the last two weeks. They are: a 131 double end adjustable block plane (with a good yoke), a type 5 603 bedrock, a #25 transitional low angle block plane (I have actually owned more #1s than 25s), a number 65 low angle block plane and finally a type 11 #3.

That's a worthwhile group of planes! I used to see a lot of good stuff at the San Diego meets.

 

[Joe Huld]

That's a worthwhile group of planes! I used to see a lot of good stuff at the San Diego meets.

I too miss the San Diego meets especially the "parking lot" sale. I bought and sold lots of really great stuff there. I bought a Hay-Budden anvil there 25 years ago that I still use. The Anderson plywood meet is this weekend, it is smaller but there will be good stuff there. Here is a link: https://www.andersonplywood.com/old-tool-swap-meet/ My red pickup appears in a couple of the pics

 

[txlonghorn1989]

When it rains it pours. Funny you can go for years and not see something and then suddenly they're popping up everywhere it seems. Visited my mom out of town for a few days. We hit a couple of estate sales near her home and I found this Stanley #3 type 15 for $12. It'll clean up nicely it looks like! This is the 3rd #3 I found in the last 6 months and 2nd one in less than 2 weeks. But I've just been finding a lot of Stanley planes in the last year. I'm not complaining mind you!

Already started the cleanup. The tote was repaired sometime in the past but other than that I think it'll make a good user. For somebody.

 

[CRSINMICH]

tx: I know what you mean. I'm currently in the middle of a #6 flood but I've had the same thing happen with #3s. I think I have three or four of them. Two of them have been completely rehabbed and sharpened but I haven't felt a need to use either of them yet. I expect one day I'll be in the middle of a project and realize that a #3 would be the perfect plane to use.

$12 for a #3 was a good deal even with a repaired tote.

 

[My Old Tools]

Old Tools: What a nice selection you have. Are they users or for showing off?

Joe: That's a great group you have. Enjoy them.

tx: That No.5 jack plane should be a great user. I find myself reaching for mine first. It's a great jack-of-all-trades tool - HEY!
p.s. I've found a couple more wood working sites that might interest you. Give me a little time to get organized and I'll post them.

EDIT: I realized after I originally posted this that I had enough time right then to organize another Plane Site post. See below.

Mostly users. I started buying #10 planes when I started timber framing. My #112 and #12 , along with #80 get used a good bit. I have a Norris A5 that has just about replaced my #4 1/2. Molding planes are seldom used but still enjoyed.

 

[jimreed2160]

Tx--Those low knob era planes are my favorites.

Joe--Your #131 is a great find of a rare plane. It is the "college educated" version of the #130.

 

[3baygarage]

Maybe you guys can tell me a little about this one. I decided to ask here rather than google.

Just found it at a neighbor’s yard sale and neither of us could see a mfr.. It’s weathered, but the words Stanley and Level are visible on back of the iron so that’s a good sign!

 

[CRSINMICH]

3bay: It's a Stanley #70 Box Scraper. They were made from 1877-1958. Supposedly they were meant to scrape paper labels from wooden packing crates so they could be reused. Interesting find

 

[txlonghorn1989]

When it rains it pours. Funny you can go for years and not see something and then suddenly they're popping up everywhere it seems. Visited my mom out of town for a few days. We hit a couple of estate sales near her home and I found this Stanley #3 type 15 for $12. It'll clean up nicely it looks like! This is the 3rd #3 I found in the last 6 months and 2nd one in less than 2 weeks. But I've just been finding a lot of Stanley planes in the last year. I'm not complaining mind you!

Already started the cleanup. The tote was repaired sometime in the past but other than that I think it'll make a good user. For somebody.

Picked up yet another #3 this morning. Also picked up two #5s at separate sales since I posted the above comment. That means I've got four #3s and four #5s to clean up at this time. Crazy.

 

[3baygarage]

Interesting. Thanks for the id.

If anyone likes to collect and restore these, I’d part ways with it for a reasonable price.

 

[crguy]

3bay: It's a Stanley #70 Box Scraper. They were made from 1877-1958. Supposedly they were meant to scrape paper labels from wooden packing crates so they could be reused. Interesting find

I like your avatar:

 

[CRSINMICH]

I like your avatar:

Where did you get that cutie?

 

[crguy]

Where did you get that cutie?

Ebay, maybe? It's been a while. It goes nicely with my Davis levels & planes.

 

[code4pay]

I picked up this and 3 other moulding planes all in very good condition. Here I am making a cove after sharpening the plade. Works really well that is some Tasmanian oak Australian hardwood.

Mike

YouTube

 

[ez-duzit]

4--nice photo.