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Carroll B

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I consider myself a long way from a welder but I can get two pieces of metal to stick together. In the early 1980’s a navy friend, who was a retired underwater welder, taught me how to use a 235-amp stick welder. I did the cutting with an oxy-acetylene torch and he helped me welder together a log splitter that I calculated made 20 tons of force. I used it for about 10 years and it never came apart. I’ve repaired a boat trailer for a friend, and used the stick welder for other occasional jobs around the house.

About a year ago, I bought a small Hobart mig. Didn’t need one, I just wanted one. One of my riding buddies wanted a luggage rack for his Harley V-Rod. There are not a lot of add-on accessories for this model like there are for the Harley touring bikes like I ride. He needed a small luggage rack to carry clothes for taking multiple day trips. A local custom bike shop quoted him $800 to build a luggage rack. (His new wife would have castrated him if he had spent that kind of money.) I told him we could make one for about $40 in steel tubing. He laid out the basic design of what he wanted. I cut the tubing with my Dewalt portable bandsaw, and welded it together with my mig. Having never made anything like this, it took us about 15 hours. He was so pleased with the outcome he said, “Why don’t we go into business making them?” I replied, “We are both retired, why would we want to go to work when we can use that time to ride?”
 

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jumpstart

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I consider myself a long way from a welder but I can get two pieces of metal to stick together. In the early 1980’s a navy friend, who was a retired underwater welder, taught me how to use a 235-amp stick welder. I did the cutting with an oxy-acetylene torch and he helped me welder together a log splitter that I calculated made 20 tons of force. I used it for about 10 years and it never came apart. I’ve repaired a boat trailer for a friend, and used the stick welder for other occasional jobs around the house.

About a year ago, I bought a small Hobart mig. Didn’t need one, I just wanted one. One of my riding buddies wanted a luggage rack for his Harley V-Rod. There are not a lot of add-on accessories for this model like there are for the Harley touring bikes like I ride. He needed a small luggage rack to carry clothes for taking multiple day trips. A local custom bike shop quoted him $800 to build a luggage rack. (His new wife would have castrated him if he had spent that kind of money.) I told him we could make one for about $40 in steel tubing. He laid out the basic design of what he wanted. I cut the tubing with my Dewalt portable bandsaw, and welded it together with my mig. Having never made anything like this, it took us about 15 hours. He was so pleased with the outcome he said, “Why don’t we go into business making them?” I replied, “We are both retired, why would we want to go to work when we can use that time to ride?”

Nice job. Always satisfying to have the ability to do something for a friend with great results.
 

jimgood

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What is used to lock the handle in the upright position, is it slotted or pined ?

Greg
Neither. I thought about doing something to lock it but it seems to be fine as is. Once the weight tips over onto the handle, it's good. When I set it down, I just put my foot on the axle and hold the opposite side of the anvil.

If I was going to do something, I'd just drill through the handle in the upright position into the frame. Then tap the holes in the frame. Simple enough to do if I need it.
 

wrenchMONKEY_

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I really want to see that when it is all done. I am liking the design alot.



Updated for ya. Got a bit more work to do.

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Keyblazer

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All of my Lenco Conversion/upgrade parts arrived!

Replacements trigger and control cable, to replace the frayed one.



CK-35 Electonic upgrade...
The Conversion Kit will upgrades 3000 and 5000 Lenco spot welders to be compatible with Lenco’s L-4000 LencoSPOT®. Your welder will then accept Lenco’s QPK-20, L-950 and A-260 attachments.




Also got a accessory pack that includes new and different tips for different applications.



Oh, and a special tip sharpener!

 

lilredex

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About a year ago, I bought a small Hobart mig. Didn’t need one, I just wanted one. One of my riding buddies wanted a luggage rack for his Harley V-Rod. There are not a lot of add-on accessories for this model like there are for the Harley touring bikes like I ride. He needed a small luggage rack to carry clothes for taking multiple day trips.

Looks good, but why not move it back out of the way? Like a few inches to get it off the seat. Two short bars (1 X 3/8" or more tubing) would do it even without welding (drill and tap).
 

WeldTightFab

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Here are a few things I finished up recently. The first is a turbo manifold for my Honda, decided to do a forward facing setup. It was quite the welding puzzle, but for never having built one I'm fairly happy with it.
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http://imgur.com/M931xXZ

These parts were for a customer, they are for a vacuum system.
http://imgur.com/ILK1Zjd
http://imgur.com/LAQgZw4
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RXtacy

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Working on a dual swing driveway gate. Steel with wood pickets.

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node105

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current project is a RHS portal frame shed 7.3m x 4.8m, 3m walls) . Currently final welding the 2 mezzanines.

Columns are 75x75x3, girts 65x35x3, mezzanine beams 125x75x4, joists 75x50x3

Finished the top of the joist welds on the back end mezzanine and welded down a couple of the column footplates early this morning before it got too warm; 41 degC today (and tomorrow) which is a bit much working in full sun.
 

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1/2 Cup

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current project is a RHS portal frame shed 7.3m x 4.8m, 3m walls) . Currently final welding the 2 mezzanines.

Columns are 75x75x3, girts 65x35x3, mezzanine beams 125x75x4, joists 75x50x3

Finished the top of the joist welds on the back end mezzanine and welded down a couple of the column footplates early this morning before it got too warm; 41 degC today (and tomorrow) which is a bit much working in full sun.

node105, looking fantastic..:thumbup:
 

node105

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thanks jinjaninja and 1/2 Cup.

Got the Structaflor (22mm red) cut and up for the back mezzanine.
The Fine voltage switch ( 3 phase 415V mig welder) has been grungy for a while, and finally seized on 3, have ordered a new one, and waiting, so had to do the flooring.

1/2 Cup; just looked at your original hand drawn plans, and our specs are remarkably similar.

My footings are 450x450x600, and 12mm foundation bolts I made up and caged welded from M12 all thread.

Will be ordering the rafter material this week, was going to use C channel (C20024) , but have wondered since early design, quite why; noting you used 100x50x3 RHS, any thoughts on your rafters?
 

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thanks jinjaninja and 1/2 Cup.

Got the Structaflor (22mm red) cut and up for the back mezzanine.
The Fine voltage switch ( 3 phase 415V mig welder) has been grungy for a while, and finally seized on 3, have ordered a new one, and waiting, so had to do the flooring.

1/2 Cup; just looked at your original hand drawn plans, and our specs are remarkably similar.

My footings are 450x450x600, and 12mm foundation bolts I made up and caged welded from M12 all thread.

Will be ordering the rafter material this week, was going to use C channel (C20024) , but have wondered since early design, quite why; noting you used 100x50x3 RHS, any thoughts on your rafters?

node105, one thing is for sure that is one strong build..:thumbup:
 

Smokey bear

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I bought a steering wheel for my Xbox just before Christmas so I spent Christmas Day putting a frame together for it. Lots of poor welding but it's strong enough for what I want and makes sitting down to play racing games feel like a bit less of a waste of time.

I had a carbon fibre bucket seat and bride rail hanging around from my last track car so I put them to good use instead of collecting dust.

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You need more wire with all of that heat and trigger pulling.

I can see that you are very concerned about the appearance, but a little more fine tuning and it won't have the sharp edges on the "trigger pull puddles" or the "stack look."

A weld is like a woman..... get 'er hot, and she'll lay down.....
 

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You need more wire with all of that heat and trigger pulling.

I can see that you are very concerned about the appearance, but a little more fine tuning and it won't have the sharp edges on the "trigger pull puddles" or the "stack look."

A weld is like a woman..... get 'er hot, and she'll lay down.....

Actually those are TIG welds, not MIG. It looks to me like the mill scale wasn't cleaned off enough which caused the weld to be contaminated. I think just a little better removal of the mill scale and ensure there is adequate gas coverage and he has it nailed down.

Mike.
 

RXtacy

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You need more wire with all of that heat and trigger pulling.

I can see that you are very concerned about the appearance, but a little more fine tuning and it won't have the sharp edges on the "trigger pull puddles" or the "stack look."

A weld is like a woman..... get 'er hot, and she'll lay down.....

I appreciate the advice, however that was TIG welded.

Actually those are TIG welds, not MIG. It looks to me like the mill scale wasn't cleaned off enough which caused the weld to be contaminated. I think just a little better removal of the mill scale and ensure there is adequate gas coverage and he has it nailed down.

Mike.

This. There was in fact no prep specifically because I didn't care about the weld appearance because it was going to be painted over anyway :lol:
 

jinjaninja

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Lol at lecturing on the correct way to "trigger mig". It's just wrong to do it let alone start talking about doing it well. And that is def tig work :D

Any who, finally got out to the shed to play for a few hours today.

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It spins pretty nice. Still need to remove some bits (front suspension and fuel tank the big bits) but I spun it enough to confirm it won't hit the ground lol...

Still need stops drilling and I'm contemplating wasting time rigging up a gear assembly to rotate the car. Given how few and far between that should be, I dare say I'll just stick to using the engine crane to move her.

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MOTORHEAD383

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Its probably been mentioned in this thread. I cant emphasize enough, going from flux core to a gas setup is night and day.

That said, i used to work at meineke a long time ago so i know my way around a mig welder and a pipe bender. Ive got a old mig welder with a fresh spool of .30 wire and mig mix. I might change it up for mild stainless, get another botle for stainless gas.

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Lol at lecturing on the correct way to "trigger mig". It's just wrong to do it let alone start talking about doing it well. And that is def tig work :D

Any who, finally got out to the shed to play for a few hours today.

It spins pretty nice. Still need to remove some bits (front suspension and fuel tank the big bits) but I spun it enough to confirm it won't hit the ground lol...

Still need stops drilling and I'm contemplating wasting time rigging up a gear assembly to rotate the car. Given how few and far between that should be, I dare say I'll just stick to using the engine crane to move her.

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jinjaninja, looking great..:thumbup:

Now the fun begins:thumbup:

Regards
 

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Lol at lecturing on the correct way to "trigger mig". It's just wrong to do it let alone start talking about doing it well.

So you are saying you should NEVER do it? Could you MIG this 18GA radiator bracket with a continuous bead? I sure as hell could't, so I "pulsed" it, but I'm no professional welder.

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skipnay

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So you are saying you should NEVER do it? Could you MIG this 18GA radiator bracket with a continuous bead? I sure as hell could't, so I "pulsed" it, but I'm no professional welder.
Larry a friend of mine was over at my house trying out my oldish (2002) Miller synrowave 250dx. He actually came over to weld something. Though he realized that he needed more then one piece of rod. So he joined two pieces together. Some people just like to show off.
 

jinjaninja

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Edit: not trying to pick a fight or be an expert. But I constantly see pulsing being used for things like roll cages and structural steel by people who don't know any better. (or at least I try and give them the benefit of the doubt) "might like tig" by pulsing/ stop start is just wrong at best and dangerous at worst... I'm not an expert by any means... But I am trade qualified and have worked as a metal fabricator for 5 years professionally. Apologies if I offended anyone with the "lol" comment but I was simply trying to keep it light hearted while still pointing out that stop start welding is not something that should be promoted as "the right way to do something"... And now back to your regular viewing...


Don't see what I couldn't. I have migged plenty of car panel sheets and they are .9mm

Pulsing to produce a look such as tig is demonstrably weaker. It is pure and simple poor form.

Sure it can work, but it is not the right way to do something.

Welds are at their weakest where there is a sudden heat change. Ie st the start or stop where sudden heat causes massive expansion or contraction. By welding with a continuous bead of weakened spots you are creating big stress risers.

I've used spots plenty when I am being lazy and there is too much heat in a part and the fit up is poor and I just cbf doing it right.

By that doesn't excuse it from being the wrong thing to do.

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racingtadpole

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Lol at lecturing on the correct way to "trigger mig". It's just wrong to do it let alone start talking about doing it well. And that is def tig work :D

Any who, finally got out to the shed to play for a few hours today.

8b43f7c9e54ed012d90f37e44bcd441a.jpg

It spins pretty nice. Still need to remove some bits (front suspension and fuel tank the big bits) but I spun it enough to confirm it won't hit the ground lol...

Still need stops drilling and I'm contemplating wasting time rigging up a gear assembly to rotate the car. Given how few and far between that should be, I dare say I'll just stick to using the engine crane to move her.

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You cant show us a picture of a KE70 on a spit and not start a build thread... No you just cant..
 

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jinjaninja

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You cant show us a picture of a KE70 on a spit and not start a build thread... No you just cant..
Lols. Is there a specific car build place in here ? I have a bit of info in my shed thread. Point me in the direction of where better to put info ? :D

It really isn't very exciting. It's incredibly slow build but it's fun.

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