Show your "Long C" Craftsman!

[Mike'smeatshop]

Thanks so much. I tried to post pics if items that may not have been previously covered

If you tell me where to ship this and then I can tell guys. He's my friend.

 

[Patrick Eubanks]

I don't know about previous posts in this thread, but I had the same reaction with respect to how @Patrick Eubanks 'es posts in other threads - where, if I am now reading it right, he has been diversifying his collecting outside of Long C, and still learning about other brands, etc - completely conceals the existence of a World Class Long C museum in his basement!

My tool collecting started with Craftsman. Of course through research I fell in love with Hinsdale and Duro. Once I had amassed that stuff it led into Chicago mfg., Bay state and Mossberg. That led to other stuff. Well you get the idea

 

[Patrick Eubanks]

If you tell me where to ship this and then I can tell guys. He's my friend.

Nice

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Well you get the idea...

I'm sure we all do. For me it was the on-board toolkit for my Willys 43 MB jeep. It was fairly small, but very esoteric, with some rare items, and only a limited number of mfgrs. That honed my skills and research, but led to the GMTK, which was much bigger, with much greater diversity, and less tyrannical exactitude. The diversity opened up my collecting to what was very close to a typical civilian master mechanics' set, and a multitude of brands. I have gone much older and deeper from there. And like others (Don, Beemer, etc), I have half my basement dedicated to my stuff. But..., but..., but..., that's A LOT of Long C! I don't have THAT much of any one single brand. Quite an accomplishment.

 

[Patrick Eubanks]

I'm sure we all do. For me it was the on-board toolkit for my Willys 43 MB jeep. It was fairly small, but very esoteric, with some rare items, and only a limited number of mfgrs. That honed my skills and research, but led to the GMTK, which was much bigger, with much greater diversity, and less tyrannical exactitude. The diversity opened up my collecting to what was very close to a typical civilian master mechanics' set, and a multitude of brands. I have gone much older and deeper from there. And like others (Don, Beemer, etc), I have half my basement dedicated to my stuff. But..., but..., but..., that's A LOT of Long C! I don't have THAT much of anything one single brand. Quite an accomplishment.

Well thanks. I enjoy showing it to folks. I haven’t kept it a secret I just am not too familiar with GJ. I have friends who are collectors and we do a lot of trades. Ed Swinehart, Michael James (online name), Mike, bill Mcpherson…..a lot of guys have helped me through trades or purchases. Scott Carter and I met last year and have already done some unbelievable trades on both ends. Ed Swinehart and I have done some blockbuster trades. Brad Mcgibney(biggest collection on earth) has helped a lot. I ask questions a lot because you guys are a new resource I’ve just discovered. I really love the older tools. Instead of watching tv I read about tools.
My craftsman collection has progressed to the point where someone will have to die of just want to liquidate. I need the 1/2 Craftsman Vanadium stuff and a few outliers like the golden jubilee box and such. One day Maybee. Until then I’ll keep collecting the older stuff I love and trying to learn.

 

[Outlawmws]

I actually started collecting with building a complete set of Long C 1/2 drive sockets. I had a few as I had been working n a massive set of working tools from Fleas, Yard and estate sales and for sockets alone it was 6&12 pt, std adn deep, all drive sizes, impacts, special sockets, etc.

I was missing 2 sizes in the 1/2 Long C std, length "collection" for the longest time, but had expanded the collecting hunt to Plvmb, Ptoto, and any that caught my fancy, and of course, converting the working set to mostly truck brands as I found them. I've generally stuck to "as found" with few exceptions, plus I started trading here. A few have been bought off Eprey, but actually very few. Probably more were put on gift lists as I'm told I'm very hard to buy for.. It's not true...

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Nice craftsman collection Patrick, Keep up the good work !

 

[bmwrd0]

I actually started collecting with building a complete set of Long C 1/2 drive sockets. I had a few as I had been working n a massive set of working tools from Fleas, Yard and estate sales and for sockets alone it was 6&12 pt, std adn deep, all drive sizes, impacts, special sockets, etc.

I was missing 2 sizes in the 1/2 Long C std, length "collection" for the longest time, but had expanded the collecting hunt to Plvmb, Ptoto, and any that caught my fancy, and of course, converting the working set to mostly truck brands as I found them. I've generally stuck to "as found" with few exceptions, plus I started trading here. A few have been bought off Eprey, but actually very few. Probably more were put on gift lists as I'm told I'm very hard to buy for.. It's not true...

Ya know, we are due for a garage tour from the Great Outlawmws.

(hint, hint.)

And Patrick, awesome collection.

 

[Mike'smeatshop]

I'm sure we all do. For me it was the on-board toolkit for my Willys 43 MB jeep. It was fairly small, but very esoteric, with some rare items, and only a limited number of mfgrs. That honed my skills and research, but led to the GMTK, which was much bigger, with much greater diversity, and less tyrannical exactitude. The diversity opened up my collecting to what was very close to a typical civilian master mechanics' set, and a multitude of brands. I have gone much older and deeper from there. And like others (Don, Beemer, etc), I have half my basement dedicated to my stuff. But..., but..., but..., that's A LOT of Long C! I don't have THAT much of any one single brand. Quite an accomplishment

I’ll try again

I found this today Patrick. Maybe you can use it or a buddy needs one. It is 15.5 inch wide by 8 inch. Pm me if interested.

 

[Beerhippie]

Not sure if this counts as a "Long C" or just a "scrawled by a kindergardener" logo:



It's on this old 1/2" wood chisel:

 

[Oldtuleguy]

I think that counts!

 

[Outlawmws]

Agreed!

 

[Smokeshow69]

1941 roller cabinet and top box

This roller blows my mind in terms of condition. I have seen a pretty nice on by a local big time collector but it's nowhere near this level! Very nice.

Some more wrench action as well as a golden jubilee push drill

So much good stuff in this collection. Hats off to you sir!

 

[alinc100]

Picked this up at the flea this morning if only because of the odd, extraordinarily skinny and sharply rectangular capital "C", which I had never seen before.

A quick search revealed it as a fairly common oxy-acetylene tank wrench.

I found a clue today on a Facebook Forum. This is on a hacksaw but I'll assume the dates are close. Hard to say for sure when the logo started but I'm confident it was available in 1936

 

[Outlawmws]

I'm confident it was available in 1936

If its the Long C logo it was on the cover of the catalog in 1933.

 

[bmwrd0]

Picked this breaker bar up the other day, not sure if it qualifies:

 

[Smokeshow69]

Picked this breaker bar up the other day, not sure if it qualifies:

Nice find! Yes it is made during the long c era so it qualifies. If you dont want it I'm in! In full disclosure it's made by snap on for the C series sets. I have the ratchet but no hinge handle. I found one years ago but it went to you know who

 

[bmwrd0]

Oh, I know how old it is, and who made it. I was just pulling a Mr. X.

 

[Smokeshow69]

Oh, I know how old it is, and who made it. I was just pulling a Mr. X.

You were close but you missed one thing he often does. You didn’t put any super rare old stuff in the background for people to notice

 

[bmwrd0]

What, my hassock isn't old enough for you?

 

[Smokeshow69]

What, my hassock isn't old enough for you?

Is it rare ?

 

[Provincial]

You were close but you missed one thing he often does. You didn’t put any super rare old stuff in the background for people to notice

I recently was introduced to a term used in museums for items slipped into the displays that don't fit, and are a test to see if the viewers notice them. The term is "Easter Egg."

 

[Patrick Eubanks]

I found a clue today on a Facebook Forum. This is on a hacksaw but I'll assume the dates are close. Hard to say for sure when the logo started but I'm confident it was available in 1936

That is a 1936 golden jubilee hack saw. Very very nice. I have one and its one of my favorite things.

 

[Mintgrun]

Oh, I know how old it is, and who made it.

A-A shares a lot of information about the C-93 hinge handles. As you probably know, yours is the early style.

According to A-A, this one was offered in 1935.

Early Craftsman Tools and Their Makers [Page 3]

Page 3 of an article on early Craftsman tools and the companies that made them.

alloy-artifacts.org

I recently found a Dunlap box from the 30's with an intact leather handle that looks just like the ones I've seen on C-series boxes, so I swapped it out for the homemade handle I'd put on the blue box.



I used a pair of wrenches to spread the D-hoops and padded pliers to close them back up.





I also made a new leaf spring to replace the broken one inside the right-side flip-latch. It took a few tries to get right, but it works well now. Unfortunately, I didn't take any photos.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

That is a 1936 golden jubilee hack saw. Very very nice. I have one and its one of my favorite things.

They are cool looking. I found one at a flea market a few years ago and posted it upthread here.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

According to A-A, this one was offered in 1935.

With a unique feature that smacks only of a Snap-on production tic in that era, even if you didn't know anything about Sears, Roebuck, & Co's C- series supplier.

Can anyone tell me what it is?



How about now?



Cornwell was doing it on their outside hinge types early, and apparently MAC and FACOM were doing it much later, but Snap-on loved to turn those drive studs 45*. They even did it on the sliding tee.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I recently found a Dunlap box from the 30's with an intact leather handle that looks just like the ones I've seen on C-series boxes, so I swapped it out for the homemade handle I'd put on the blue box.

Well done and none the wiser!

 

[Smokeshow69]

Well done and none the wiser!

Precisely why I buy cheap roached boxes to harvest parts off of

 

[Mintgrun]

Well done and none the wiser!

Thank you. I think it is an exact match for what would have originally been installed; since they're both Sears products from the same time frame. To illustrate, here's a fine example of a similar box shared by @ratcheted in post #4,249.

This set has double male-end extensions which are only in the 29 piece set pictured in '39 catalog, also those extensions are not shown in any other set and not available individually as best I can tell . This could explain their rarity.

Thank you for sharing that information, ratcheted. I found one of those BE marked 5" double-male extensions a while back. I appreciate knowing how rare it is.



It is interesting that they put the hinge on the outside of the cover on that box. I noticed that detail can actually be seen in a catalog listing, but I'm not having luck finding it now. The hinge is installed underneath the cover on my box.

I felt bad about stealing the handle off of the Dunlap box, since I appreciate that box as well, but the C-series box out-ranked it and I'd been hoping to complete it since I found it two years ago. I took the end-handle off of this S-K box and put it on the Dunlap box, since I'm less concerned with originality on that one and the S-K box doesn't really need a handle on one end. The S-K handles are slightly larger and have grommets where the D-ring passes through. Here it is on the Dunlap box.



I put the rope handle on a different Dunlap box and made brass grommets out of .44 caliber shells, using aluminum dies that I made to flare the ends. It's funny how one thing leads to another and obscure value judgements come into play.



Tom

 

[ratcheted]

Thank you. I think it is an exact match for what would have originally been installed; since they're both Sears products from the same time frame. To illustrate, here's a fine example of a similar box shared by @ratcheted in post #4,249.



Thank you for sharing that information, ratcheted. I found one of those BE marked 5" double-male extensions a while back. I appreciate knowing how rare it is.



It is interesting that they put the hinge on the outside of the cover on that box. I noticed that detail can actually be seen in a catalog listing, but I'm not having luck finding it now. The hinge is installed underneath the cover on my box.

I felt bad about stealing the handle off of the Dunlap box, since I appreciate that box as well, but the C-series box out-ranked it and I'd been hoping to complete it since I found it two years ago. I took the end-handle off of this S-K box and put it on the Dunlap box, since I'm less concerned with originality on that one and the S-K box doesn't really need a handle on one end. The S-K handles are slightly larger and have grommets w

I put the rope handle on a different Dunlap box and made brass grommets out of .44 caliber shells, using aluminum dies that I made to flare the ends. It's funny how one thing leads to another and obscure value judgements come into play.



Tom

Suitable replacement handles are readily available. Singer Featherweight

 

[Mike'smeatshop]

Thank you. I think it is an exact match for what would have originally been installed; since they're both Sears products from the same time frame. To illustrate, here's a fine example of a similar box shared by @ratcheted in post #4,249.



Thank you for sharing that information, ratcheted. I found one of those BE marked 5" double-male extensions a while back. I appreciate knowing how rare it is.



It is interesting that they put the hinge on the outside of the cover on that box. I noticed that detail can actually be seen in a catalog listing, but I'm not having luck finding it now. The hinge is installed underneath the cover on my box.

I felt bad about stealing the handle off of the Dunlap box, since I appreciate that box as well, but the C-series box out-ranked it and I'd been hoping to complete it since I found it two years ago. I took the end-handle off of this S-K box and put it on the Dunlap box, since I'm less concerned with originality on that one and the S-K box doesn't really need a handle on one end. The S-K handles are slightly larger and have grommets where the D-ring passes through. Here it is on the Dunlap box.



I put the rope handle on a different Dunlap box and made brass grommets out of .44 caliber shells, using aluminum dies that I made to flare the ends. It's funny how one thing leads to another and obscure value judgements come into play.



Tom

You did great. I would accept that.

 

[bmwrd0]

When I found mine (and grabbed it scant seconds before Smokeshow was able to get his oversize mitts on it) it didn't have a leather handle anymore, so I had to find a roached out box to cannibalize it from:

But I have been doing that to help interesting boxes at the cost of losing an old beat up box for years. Of course, the last two I checked, having spotted the desired leather handles, ended up having beautiful Dunlap decals.

 

[Smokeshow69]

When I found mine (and grabbed it scant seconds before Smokeshow was able to get his oversize mitts on it) it didn't have a leather handle anymore, so I had to find a roached out box to cannibalize it from:

But I have been doing that to help interesting boxes at the cost of losing an old beat up box for years. Of course, the last two I checked, having spotted the desired leather handles, ended up having beautiful Dunlap decals.

I still remember you grabbing that box just before I got there to that booth. It was a good pickup!

 

[d42jeep]

Has anyone taken note of how the bidding is going on this item on eBay?

**RARE** Vintage Craftsman BE 1/4" Socket Partial Set Breaker Bar Holder/Case | eBay

Sockets included are". All sockets are in used condition and have typical surface rust and surface blemishes for their age. See pictures for condition. 5/16 8point double square. 1/4 8point double square.

www.ebay.com

I‘m keeping an eye on it. I wonder what the final price will be?
-Don

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Probably got a shill... most auctions run to the end with no bids then there is a flurry at the end. I have seen items like that supposedly sell for an outrageous price and then reappear a few few weeks later

 

[Outlawmws]

Its a money laundering mechanizim. I see it s lot.

 

[Beerhippie]

Its a money laundering mechanizim. I see it s lot.

Remember the $1,000+ Coleman 200A lanterns on the 'bay a few years ago?

 

[Outlawmws]

Remember the $1,000+ Coleman 200A lanterns on the 'bay a few years ago?

Yep! other common items as well!

 

[Patrick Eubanks]

I wouldn’t call that common. 1930s and early 40s. It was a tough find for me

 

[d42jeep]

My wife found ours several years ago at an estate sale. I’m kind of hoping the sale is legit.
-Don