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Yes, excellent summary, GW. I think that's pretty much the gist collectors have derived from the muliplicity of suppliers (including Plomb, briefly, too) and timelines leading up through the MDF sole source contract in the late 40s, but to return to the question, do you have anything that substantiates Vlchek making their own drive tools?
 
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Yes, excellent summary, GW. I think that's pretty much the gist collectors have derived from the muliplicity of suppliers (including Plomb, briefly, too) and timelines leading up through the MDF sole source contract in the late 40s, but to return to the question, do you have anything that substantiates Vlchek making their own drive tools?

Howdy,

I will have to check my notes, but I thought Frank Vlchek himself mentioned it in his memoir.

Here is a synopsis of it:
http://www.kentstateuniversitypress.com/2011/the-story-of-my-life/
 

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It was written and published in 1928, unfortunately. An excellent, riveting read, though. Seriously. The stories and anecdotes are incredibly insightful, as much about our industrial history, especially business and labor practices, how tools were ordered, bought and sold, by who, and for what purposes, categorically, not only by profession, but the middle men, and hardware stores, as how they were made. There is a lot on forging, die making, etc, as well, but the narrative approach is about the people. A very good read. As a WWII tools buff, I often wish he had waited another 10 or 15 year to get the autobiography bug, but he died in 1947.

EDIT: AA has the 1934 and 1938 catalogs in their library, and they say that is when the drive tools were introduced and discontinued. As inventive and resourceful as Frank Vlchek and his team was in terms of toolmaking, it still strikes me as odd and unprecedented in terms of the cost and effort it would take for a manufacturer in business since the the late 1890's to tool up to enter that market at that time and then turn around and exit so abruptly. Less so if they were contracted, however.

Tangentially, how helpful would it be for us right now if we could examine the 1934 and 1938 catalogs themselves to see if we could collectively interpret something AA may have missed? And how helpful would it be for AA if they could examine the 1936 and 1941 catalogs - which are not included in their catalog library, and therefore, not included in their analyses, for the same reason? I know there are people that say that I am unfairly harsh on them about this, but not publishing catalogs in the open hurts collective, community-wide research efforts.
 
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Ack that is right. I am running on vapor. I will take a gander at what I have. I could have sworn I had some kind of quote from the man about trying new avenues in tool making and what specifically was being made.
 

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I agree. I have the book and read it a few years back. It reminded me a lot of my own grandfather who was also a Czech. The man had an incredible work ethic that not only encompassed the task but those around him as well.

I remember Frank seeming to have a genuine concern for the things he produced, the people that he employed, those who invested in him, and his local community and the old country.

Lugs correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't there a commentary about how one of his employees that was fairly up in the company snubbed Frank and left. Years later, he found the same guy in a bad way and hired him again. I found that kind of forgiveness to be missing in this day in age.
 

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You know Lugs, I have reached out to AA multiple times over the years to offer all of my data and even the tools themselves they didn't already have. I never got a response.

Typically, I encourage freely exchanging information. Unfortunately, I have also seen the result of giving it to the wrong person(s).
 
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It reminded me a lot of my own grandfather who was also a Czech.
Interesting. All my grandparents are from what is today Slovakia, which was part of Czechoslovakia for man years. When they were born, it was the Austro-Hungarian Empire. My paternal grandparents lived in Cleveland and a few of my uncles established and owned Durable Plating Company. I have Vlchek wrenches from my father that were very likely plated by my uncles. :)

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Lugs correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't there a commentary about how one of his employees that was fairly up in the company snubbed Frank and left. Years later, he found the same guy in a bad way and hired him again. I found that kind of forgiveness to be missing in this day in age.
You are not wrong and it happened twice. One guy was his lead shop guy, and the other was a salesman.

You know Lugs, I have reached out to AA multiple times over the years to offer all of my data and even the tools themselves they didn't already have. I never got a response.
Don't get me started! Same story with Todd and I. I have done in-depth research on so may topics that would correct, clarify or tighten up AA's conclusions. WWII alloy restrictions, Plomb Pebble production, Plomb lawsuit tools, the Costello patent ratchets, etc etc. Despite what the site says about accepting comments, I think he has a bad case of NIH syndrome.
 

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Can this really be my first post to the Vlchek thread?

Interesting comments and theories. I hope that one day the complete, and correct story can be told!!

I have lots of Vlchek wrenches - most of which are common pre-war DOE and DBE wrenches. However, I noticed something that was conspicuously missing and that was any round shank DBE wrenches (other than Scott's single offset no-name wrench). I was cleaning one up today and failed to photograph it, not thinking much of it. Am I wrong?

Anyways, I did take the time to clean and photograph the 3 pre-war Vlchek sockets I have. I see that OTG has a few but I have the pleasure of posting the first deep socket from that era.
 

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Here is an early socket I found not too long ago. Likely prewar or early war.
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Can this really be my first post to the Vlchek thread?

Anyways, I did take the time to clean and photograph the 3 pre-war Vlchek sockets I have. I see that OTG has a few but I have the pleasure of posting the first deep socket from that era.

ANY 30's Vlchek sockets are hard enough to find but those deeps are brutal. good job.
 

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Thanks. Cool ad. Puts at least two or so years to the production run.


Supplying to Sears, Roebuck, & Co would certainly be a good motivation for a foray and the justification for the expense of the completely new dies and tooling required for it. Curious why you constrain it to just ratchets, though. Is there any precedence for Sears, Roebuck & Co exclusively buying one type of drive tool (e.g., ratchets) from any OEM without the other drive tools and sockets?

This is a great statement. Honestly, from studying the Sears catalog and the ratchets under the Craftsman brand, it doesn't surprise me. Sears has done this several times throughout the brand's history with ratchets, where certain Craftsman pieces are orphaned from corresponding ratchets that also existed in conjunction with what was offered via the OEM as well as being divorced from pieces that would have supported them (sockets, extensions, etc.).

The crappy thing about this era is that any paper trail that remains as to the exact where/why/who is thin. A few of the people I have interviewed over the last few years have died before I could have a chance to do a voice or video recorded call. Sadly, I have to put some of these statements as speculation, as the original source either passed away, is no longer available, or won't/can't agree to consenting to permitting me to present the "raw" information to the public (not as relevant for the topic of Vlchek, but things more recent) as it could damage the organization's reputation, their relationship with that organization, or potentially disrupt their ability to do their job or be hired by another.

Vlchek would have been a great manufacturer to work with. I don't know why Vlchek wasn't a good candidate, considering their breadth of tools was more than just competent. :confused:
 

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Vlchek probably had enough business with the OEM's during the pre-MDF era that they wouldn't try to meet Sears low price targets.
 

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A couple of old “VLCHECK” CLEV’D. O. pieces. A bearing scraper and an offset screwdriver.

Lugz, I know I read your bearing scraper posts at some point. The other day I was taking photos of random items I came across while moving things, and wound up putting this pair together.

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Lugz, I know I read your bearing scraper posts at some point.
Couple pages back, posts #130, 139, 140, and 141, including catalog excerpts. I am so ̶g̶r̶e̶e̶n̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶e̶n̶v̶y̶ happy for you :D! I have two bearing scrapers I am 100% positive are unmarked Vlchek based on the profile of the shank as well as the handle. But, unmarked. Unless I am misjudging the size context of the penny in your last shot, it is a relatively tiny one, huh? Maybe 6 inches OAL? That point would do well on the end of a musket! Put it in the Lugz future trade pile with the (BM(Co)) adjustable! :evil:

Nice offset screwdriver, too. Old school pattern. Octagonal stock with the blades formed on the ends. Not forged, then the ends bent. Hard to find in general, harder to nigh impossible to find in a diameter (3/8") and length (8-1/2") all us WWII guys look for.
 

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I just went back through the thread and saw your posts before posting these. I might be more inclined to part with this some day (especially since you collected those handles) over the BMCo ;). You must be close with the size, perhaps a ruler would have been better there than the penny. It is a small scraper.

I do like the old hex pattern of screwdriver.
 
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I found a nice ball pein hammer at a Church sale yesterday. It was obviously a high quality hammer, and the price was right. The markings on the cheek were very faint, but I was able to make out "chek" so it must be Vlchek. It weighs 16 ounces. The markings include the manufacturer's name in a circular pattern, with something I can't read in the center.

Could this be a WWII toolkit item?
 

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Jock,
The Jeep onboard toolset uses a 1lb hammer as did an early MVMTS. I have a 1lb Heller in my Jeep’s set. The first picture is a 2lb Heller that I re-handled.
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Picked yesterday, Vlchek bleeder wrench for caterpillar diesel engine fuel systems from 30's, 40's and 50's maybe into 60's.
I've had several of these 9f 22's, this 1 first i seen marked vlchek along with good amount of black paint.
FYI, For maintaining my "operating capital fund" I've had triple digit $$$ results offering these on eprey.


 

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It just figures that my first ever one and only Vlchek drive tool piece found in the wild, in 12 or so years now, mind you, happens to be an oddball spark plug socket with a 13/16" service opening and an internal 3/8-inch drive female opening inside a 3/4-inch hex for alternatively turning it with a wrench. I have a similar spark plug socket from Plomb.
 

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Today I picked up a number three Phillips screwdriver, to go with the number one. It had a little surface rust, but cleaned up nicely. I wonder how long it will take to come across a number two.

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Picked yesterday, Vlchek bleeder wrench for caterpillar diesel engine fuel systems from 30's, 40's and 50's maybe into 60's.
I've had several of these 9f 22's, this 1 first i seen marked vlchek along with good amount of black paint.
FYI, For maintaining my "operating capital fund" I've had triple digit $$$ results offering these on eprey.



Is the oval opening the same at the other end but turned thru 90?
 

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I was browsing through the thread and read the mentions about round shank DBEs. I was just rooting through my Vlchek tray looking at some old DOEs (which is why I was reading this thread) when I found this. Measures 8-3/8in. Never gave it much thought until now. I have a short version of this too.
 

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Good afternoon from Ontario Canada. I was hoping someone could possibly help me date a pair ofVlchek open end wrenches as I have never had one until a few days ago when I was gifted a pair. They are definitely Vlchek as they have the raised vt in shield logo on them. That however is the only marking on one of them, and the second one has an A on one of the heads. Not a single other marking is on either wrench...not even sizes of them.
If I can figure out how to post pictures I will do so.
Thanks in advance. Ben
 

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My first two raised-panel Alloy Steel Combination wrenches from Vlchek.
 

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Several years ago, back when I was putting together Dodge toolkits for guys with Dodge G502 WC trucks, I had quite a few of these Vlchek 6" slip-joint pliers with the 'Flying V' logo. It's been a few years since I found one at the flea market. Even though this one has had an awfully hard life, I was thrilled.
 

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