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nine4gmc

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Keep at it Strouty, the ujoint will be fixed in no time and you will be zooming around the place on your new forklift!
 
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Yeah, the lathe accident thread has made me thinking about safety a lot more than I would have.

Power flickered a bit and I have a couple of leaks in the roof. I don't think there is much I can do about them right now, the roof needs to be replaced in the spring for sure. I just need to make sure the water can't damage anything expensive or important. I know we are suppose to get high winds and rain most of the evening so it will continue to leak, I was toying with the idea of going up and clearing the last bit of snow/ice, I think that is the main reason it is leaking so bad. The water is pooling behind the snow/ice. It is a bit depressing when water is coming inside your shop, but then I have known about the roof for years and just band aid fixed it. At least I am not trying to deny the facts, just frustrated with the entire situation.

In my defense, usually the winter is snow and it doesn't leak, that was the only reason I had planned to wait until spring.
 
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It is about 50 outside, when I showed up there was still snow on the roof, now it is bare and the leaks are much less. When the wind blows against what is left of the shingles it pushes the water under them. We have had a lot more weather where the rain has been blown in a weird direction, so this year has been the worst of all the years. I have set up a few buckets, moved a few items and covered a couple things with tarps just to make sure.
 
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I have a better idea, metal roofing. I am going to do it this year, it is an absolute necessity at this point. What good is a shop if you can't keep the stuff inside dry? Nothing I am going to do about it today, so I need to stop complaining and get back to work.
 
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I plan on doing metal roofing, should only be a few thousand in materials, lots more effort for installation though.

I got the broken bolts out of the yoke on the rear end, I had bought a new extraction set in hopes that the left handed drill bits would be the solution, nothing in the kit did me any good. I had to keep drilling it out until I got to where the threads were becoming exposed, then I had to use a punch to get the old bolt out of the way so I could start the tap. After that is was just a slow process, but I new it was the safe way. When the shaft came loose it did a bit of damage to the pinion nut, but I won't worry about that right now. I am taking a break before I reinstall the drive shaft.







 
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I wasn't going to buy the extractor set, but I had a 20% coupon at zoro and they had the best price to start with. The last few weeks I had bought two left hand drill bits from the Snap On man and thought it was time to get a full set. Little did I know that the Snap On set is the Irwin set. The drill bits are not even marked Snap On, they just say the size and Brazil. I took the two that I bought out of the set and I am going to return them tomorrow.

One thing I will say is the chuck on my milwaukee M18 drill *****, four drill bits were used and three of them slipped and screwed up the shanks, luckily it is not where the size is marked. I wish all drill bits came with the shanks that have the flats machined into them. Lesson learned, I will use my V28 drill next time, it has a chuck that doesn't slip.
 
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The pictures don't show the contorted position I had to be in to drill them "straight". My neck is telling me it did not like it at all.
 

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My M18 slips occasionally too, usually when I need it not to the most. I thought it was just that particular one but when I swapped out to the Fuel version it does the same thing. :dunno:
 
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The chucks that milwaukee is using are junk, the V28 (really old ones) have a very nice chuck.

I got the driveshaft in and greased up some of the zerks I am going to have to move it to get the others. I also spent a little time clearing off the main tool box, I still have to work on the cart, it is a disaster.









 

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Hey not to bad of a day, you got a job accomplished and a space cleaned up.

I need to get a selection of left hand bits, I have a few but not nearly enough, a complete set would be nice.
 
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I am not convinced that they work yet. I guess if you have a bolt that is not rusted in place they may work well, but I have very rarely broken a bolt that wasn't rusty.
 
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Get ready for the snow. We had that rain a few days ago and yesterday was almost 50 degrees then today its cold snowing and windy all day. I think its heading to the northeast.
 

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Strouty,

You are amazing!

Where do some of you guys learn these skills?

I would have no idea on where to even start on those kinds of repairs.

Just amazing!

Bill

Mostly I learned by doing, sometimes from need and others because I just wanted to do it myself.

I have always wanted to know how things worked, I can't even count how many times I took a non working something apart just to see inside.

Of course it is easier now with the internet and sources like youtube.
 

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I wasn't going to buy the extractor set, but I had a 20% coupon at zoro and they had the best price to start with. The last few weeks I had bought two left hand drill bits from the Snap On man and thought it was time to get a full set. Little did I know that the Snap On set is the Irwin set. The drill bits are not even marked Snap On, they just say the size and Brazil. I took the two that I bought out of the set and I am going to return them tomorrow.

One thing I will say is the chuck on my milwaukee M18 drill *****, four drill bits were used and three of them slipped and screwed up the shanks, luckily it is not where the size is marked. I wish all drill bits came with the shanks that have the flats machined into them. Lesson learned, I will use my V28 drill next time, it has a chuck that doesn't slip.
I sometimes grind 3 sides of a driil bit on the bench grinder. Also the last few years i have been upgrading my drill bits to Dewalt ones with the pilot point. I have been very happy with their quality.
 
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Bill, most of the basics I learned from my Dad, then trial and error played a big part in my education. As Richard said, when money is tight you either figure out how to fix it or go without. Sometimes that means half assed fixes and "git er done" attitude. I try not to do that until it is clear there is no other way.

RM, We are supposed to get some snow tomorrow night, not sure how much yet. Looks like the cold has set in and we are actually going to have winter, but who knows.

Thumper, I used to do the same thing. I also used to make working things into non working things trying to figure out how they worked or trying to modify them. I can remember hooking up a 12 volt RC car to 120 volt AC, I wanted it to go faster. It made noise, then a flash, then smoke, and then tripped the circuit breaker.

Carcajou, I have a bunch of those bits and they work fairly well. I have never tried grinding the bits myself, I might try it and see what happens.
 

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Hello, darkness my old friend, I've come to talk to you again...

Hello, Strouty and company.

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How many of you took apart a compressed air rifle when you were kids? They do NOT go back together well... :shocking:
 
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Nothing major to report, I spent a little bit nothing thins around, mostly just trying to figure out where things will be going. Tomorrow I am helping my Brother for a while so no shop time. I did order a couple used billboards so I can cover the roof for the winter. I had a couple leaks that were really bad in places I did not see until today. So now I have water leaking out of a light fixture in my office. I am going to head home soon, but I will snap a couple of pictures before I leave to show what little progress I have made.

One conclusion I came to was that the big water tank was going to do me no good this winter, so I am going to take it outside and drain the water. That will get me a bit of space back, one less headache to deal with.
 

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I must chime in on the "where do you learn the skills" bit. You learn by doing! It does help to have the opportunity to try early whether by need, inclination or exposure. I had all 3 as a youngling and use the skills all the time. Gran dad taught me fractions with a tape measure while we built a gate when I was 6 years old, gas monkey at a local service station had me doing tune-ups, tires, brakes and such at age 11 or roofing a house at age 12!

First rule of the skills game is to understand that you CAN do it! I was never told I could NOT do something...except shoot my brother with a BB gun or keep snakes in the dresser, both of which I did, but I classified as should not rather than could not!

Hi Dad, I want a treehouse!! He just said "Go ahead!", Bike broke? Fix it!, Helicopter...I learned a lot of things that didn't work there!

Sure you get better as you go along and may even fail the first few times, but, you can do this! I needed about 250 feet of privacy fence. First 40 feet took 4 days! First drive through gate took 4 days. Last 100 feet took just over a day and had a man gate and a drive through gate. Then I went back and did the first 40 feet and gate correctly.

If you ever catch yourself saying "I don't know how" or I can't" Shut up and go try! Could be wiring a plug, rebuilding a transmission or baking a cake!

Bruce
 
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Bruce is right, I think when I was younger I never learned "can't", I learned to say "I need help" instead. My Dad would never give me money to buy something, but if I wanted to buy parts to build something or tools to use, he was always willing to help. I remember the first full set of tools I got and they were actually Harbor Freight, I upgraded (not sure it really was an upgrade) to craftsman later on. As they say the bolt doesn't care who made the tool. Today with all the information out there it is easy to become paralyzed overthinking things. I fall into it from time to time, but usually once you start, things become more obvious, if they don't try and get some help. Today a lot of things are becoming harder to work on and you need more specialized tools, but most things that have mechanical components can be fixed. Certain electronics have become more of a parts swap than a repair, but you can generally fix them.
 

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I always said that anything made/designed by man can be fixed by man. It's impossible to fix the weather, or the moon but if a man conceived it, a man can fix it.
 

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Also learned a lot from my Dad. He had a sheet metal shop and expanded into commercial roofing. Learned a lot about the do's and don'ts of working with sheet metal before I was 10. When I got older, worked with the roofing crew.

When I was younger, I thought everyone had a metal lathe and milling machine in their cellars. The ones at our house were pulled out of scrap piles and were cobbled together, typically using one machine to make parts for the other.

Dad grew up on a farm during the depression where they repaired or repurposed everything. That mindset carried on with his business as most of the equipment was purchased used or just old and repairs were required on a routine basis. There were many times when after supper we would go to a job site, at times 50 miles or more, hauling a trailer to pick up a piece of broken equipment, bring it to the shop, fix it and have it ready to bring back to the job in the morning.

like you Strouty, I tend to over think things that I don't do on a regular basis or doing something for the first time. Could be why its taking me so long to finish the garage. Once I figure out how to approach something and actually get started, it usually goes fairly quickly. There are other times I have to take it all apart and start over. At least when I'm done, there is no one to blame but me if I'm not happy with the outcome.
 
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So if a woman conceived it, are we screwed?

No pictures, I forgot to take them. I will update towards the end of the week.
 
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