Spreading the Bonney affliction!
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davethorik
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Thank you for the info. My wording was bad...I will not be stripping this one. Just cleaning it. I like to leave vises "as found", I only strip them if they have 20 coats of paint or need other work. This is a neat little vise. I like it.
Edit: looks like mine is marked on the swivel base plate just like yours.
Edit: looks like mine is marked on the swivel base plate just like yours.
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BarryWells
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I hope this ok to chime in with here ?
I just grabbed these critters.Never seen any like them. I was searching "Bonnie box end wrench set" and...BANG !
I just grabbed these critters.Never seen any like them. I was searching "Bonnie box end wrench set" and...BANG !
Those are intriguing, but I think they are all user-mods.
The single-hex ones are standard model numbers for mid-1960s combos (7-piece set N65R). It seems unlikely that they would have ALL been conserved from open-end-damaged combos, so maybe someone routinely used the box-ends, but didn’t want to carry the extra weight of rarely-needed open ends (I think the well-used roll pouch supports this), or needed a shorter length in a restricted space.
The double-hex one is a cut-off DBE from the 1940s, I think, but I don’t recognize the model number - maybe a different manufacturer?
The single-hex ones are standard model numbers for mid-1960s combos (7-piece set N65R). It seems unlikely that they would have ALL been conserved from open-end-damaged combos, so maybe someone routinely used the box-ends, but didn’t want to carry the extra weight of rarely-needed open ends (I think the well-used roll pouch supports this), or needed a shorter length in a restricted space.
The double-hex one is a cut-off DBE from the 1940s, I think, but I don’t recognize the model number - maybe a different manufacturer?
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Ricky Joe
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I would agree with you, except the size markings position indicates factory to me. I agree 1960s.
Private Lugnutz
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The "725-B" is the ISN (the other end was originally a 12-point box with a 9/16" opening) and Williams, Armstrong, Billings & Spencer and a few others used an 8000 series "8ISN" scheme for double offset DBE's, but I don't recognize the "C" prefix before the "8" or that sunken panel shank, either.
??? That's exactly where the size was marked on the 11xx streamlined combination wrenches of that era. A PO chopped them off just before the size marking, smartly retaining the size marking, as LS alluded to. I think them all being so well-done (chopped and finished uniformly), the retained size marking, and especially the entire set being chopped like that gives an overall effect of it being a special factory SBE set.
EDIT: Here's a mixed 12-pt set (hence, no "H" suffix). The top wrench (marked "7/8" on the shank) is 60's. The others - all marked on the OE jaw - are late 50's.
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Right. Here’s an easy-to-grab Outline 1116H long-pattern single-hex showing the position of the size marking. (Flanking are two standard-length double-hex combos. Most of my Outlines are metric.)
I think Bonney started marking the size in this position toward the very end of Streamline, and carried it over to Outline. It can be read upright when the combo is hung from a peg hook.
I think Bonney started marking the size in this position toward the very end of Streamline, and carried it over to Outline. It can be read upright when the combo is hung from a peg hook.
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Ricky Joe
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Thanks! I haven’t had a chance to check mine. I thought they were on the head. I had a metric set that got away from me at some point. I think I have a couple standard left. I’ll check.Right. Here’s an easy-to-grab Outline 1116H long-pattern single-hex showing the position of the size marking. (Flanking are two standard-length double-hex combos. Most of my Outlines are metric.)
I think Bonney started marking the size in this position toward the very end of Streamline, and carried it over to Outline. It can be read upright when the combo is hung from a peg hook.
The PO you bought them from did a great job on making those! Nice set!
Mikeske
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Yes they did make 6 points metrics as they are listed in the 1986 tool catalog on page 10 but they only have 10-19 MM listed. I do have have 4 of the metric 6 points a 8MM a 10 MM a 11 MM and a 12 MM. I have a comprehensive set of long metric wrenches but I have an elusive 10 MM 12 point that I was using somewhere in my shop.
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Mikeske
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Any of the Bonney metric wrenches are hard to find and if on eBay the set I saw was like over $250.00
Raineman
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Very jealous of the full polished metric set
Mikeske
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I never gave it a thought on how rare the metric Bonney tools were when I got my set 40 years ago. I realize now that they are rare but at the the time I was a vehicle mechanic in the Air Force getting ready to be discharged back to be a civilian and needed the tools. Since Grainger at that time gave me a competitive bid for the tools I went for the Bonney tools.
Today I use the metric more than the SAE. At the time I got the tools it was the transitional period that automotive manufacturers were going from SAE to metric. The first fully metric car I worked on was a Toyota Corolla at a Chrysler dealership that was taken in on a trade
Today I use the metric more than the SAE. At the time I got the tools it was the transitional period that automotive manufacturers were going from SAE to metric. The first fully metric car I worked on was a Toyota Corolla at a Chrysler dealership that was taken in on a trade
I got my Bonney tools while working at an auto refrigeration shop out of HS. We had a "deal" going with the local Honda dealer. Anybody who ordered A/C in their new Honda had to wait for it - the dealer had the complete parts kit thrown in the trunk and the car driven to us, and we'd install it. So, we used alot of metric.
However, we did retrofit older American cars with A/C as well, so SAE was required. I had to buy complete sets of both! Man was I broke for several months paying off that tool bill. (I was making $3.15 an hour) But now I'm glad I did.
However, we did retrofit older American cars with A/C as well, so SAE was required. I had to buy complete sets of both! Man was I broke for several months paying off that tool bill. (I was making $3.15 an hour) But now I'm glad I did.
Guys there is a complete NOS set of metric Black Oxide combos on the bay as we speak. Guys looking for $450 to start. If I didn't have so many different sets of metric wrenches in different brands I'd buy them. Back Oxide is my favorite finish for tools.. If anybody is interested I can go find and link the sale here. FYI, I have nothing to do with the listing, I'm just a fellow buyer/searcher of tools.
four.cycle
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Hey guys check out this little 3/8 combo Bonney, the wrench isn’t what is that special, it’s whats on it! Got this in last nights haul. If anyone has any info about this I would love to know it, I think this is a really cool wrench.
-Tommy
-Tommy
Private Lugnutz
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If you search the thread on "Chrysler" you will see other examples, including entire sets in pouches and boxes. All golden-plated or trimmed. Given out to those who took the course in the 60's.
S-K Tool Fanatic!
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Very cool, shame I didn’t get the rest of them…
-Tommy
-Tommy
Mikeske
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The Chrysler Master Tech tools were given out from the 1960's into the early 1990's. I have a set of universals sockets that I got off eBay that was awarded in 1991.
mritchie77
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Yep, my FIL has a set of the Loc-Rite line wrenches that were given to his dad between '64-67 while he worked at Chrysler. Never knew they were awarded all the way up through the 90's.
Private Lugnutz
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Yeah, I've seen them, Mike. I should've said 'starting in the 60's'.
Mikeske
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I do know it was at least to 1991 as these universals do show.
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Raineman
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Today’s Bonney additions.
S-K Tool Fanatic!
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Awesome stuff! Bonney isn't my main brand but I do like it. Those wrenches are pretty good,I like the ones I have.
-Tommy
-Tommy
Mikeske
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Well after a year of watching eBay and the pawn, flea markets and 2nd hand tool sellers I finally scored a replacement for the "borrowed" breaker bar that was never returned. The dude that "borrowed" will never borrow from me and is permanently banned from my property and tools.
The replacement breaker bar a Bonney A724 1/2" from all appearances is new old stock. It now is in my tool box in my shop and will be only used by me.
Mikeske
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Here is one but it cost more then the one I located. There are two different 1/2" breaker bars from the the Triangle Era a A720 1/2" breaker bar and it is about 13" long and then the A724 breaker bar which I got from eBay which is about 16" long. When I bought mine I got both sizes a A720 and the A724 now my set is back to complete.
mritchie77
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Picked up this 30's Bonney box from the MC set listed in catalog 138 (1938). Lots of 3/8, 1/2, and 3/4 drive CV marked Bonney sockets, speeder, breaker bar, and extensions in here too (along with many others).
...and the box as I bought it for $100
...and the box as I bought it for $100
alinc100
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Provincial
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Definitely a You ****!A buck a piece? You stole those wrenches!