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Ah! I see what they did there. Cross drill a piece of pipe ******, drill and tap for a long set screw, use a lock nut to lock in place. Wide open, more mix air, less grit. Partially closed, more grit in the mix.
 
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Mine is made from black pipe fittings and a valve for dumping media.
I have a "High Tech" metering device. :lol_hitti The piece of wire happen to be near at hand and I bent it in half and stuck it in the hole. Media flow is great !
 

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I changed out the glass beads in my smaller cabinet today. It had been getting a workout lately, with both my son and I using it on various projects. Doing so increased visibility in the cabinet by about a factor of three.

I did a bit of alox blasting on a few of my lathe panels today. I am restoring a Clausing 12x36 for my use.
 

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Nice work on the lathe parts, I've been looking for a lathe for years. I'm picking up this Champion pump in two weeks.
 

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Looks like you are having a blast with the new cabinet! Start timing the pieces you blast. It will give you a better sense of what it takes and if you want to hire out blasting something for someone it will give you a method of pricing.
I've been on a power wire brush today cleaning the cast iron lathe bed. Slings and arrows of outrageous debris.
 
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Hello RJ,
Just wondering when you blast with your Smith, how do you address water in the air issues? I started playing around with my P185 in a suction cabinet last week, and water was dripping out of the quick connects like they were faucets. I've read so much on the net about driers and after coolers, I'm in a state of confusion as to the best, simplest and lowest cost approach. Maybe a coil of 3/4 copper in a 55 gal. barrel filled with cold tap water as an after cooler for starters?
 
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I have actually not needed the Smith yet, although my son and I are going to be doing some pot blasting with it shortly. I run it occasionally to keep it in running condition. I never had a problem years ago with my Chrysler 75 CFM unit, so will have to see what the Smith does. My unit has an after cooler, but the mono block compressors are known for hot air output. The barrel idea sounds like it would be worth a try, for sure. An inline dropout tank might be worth considering for water separation, but at 100 CFM flow, it may not work.
 
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Yes, a drop out tank was in my thoughts also. I have a couple 60 gallon and 120 gallon units to pick from. I am also thinking about a piece of pipe, maybe 6" ID and 5-6 ft tall, filled with stainless steel wool pads to act as a coalescing agent.
I dunno, have to study more.......but it's fun to explore and learn as well.
 

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You should definitely look into a dryer/ cooler of some type, this is mounted next to my compressor but I've only used the fan portion. This other cooler I'm thinking is an oil cooler (Sullair) just taking up shop space.

I don't get any moisture out of my second holding tank but this isn't a large trailer mounted compressor.
 

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When I use the diesel compressor for rock drilling, we have to setup a special water separator/after cooler, otherwise my drill freezes up, even in the summer.
 
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You can build one, we did and if remember it was around $1000 in parts. The ones we looked at were like $3500.


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I unbolted and rotated my blower housing on my larger cabinet 90 degrees to allow me to cut a hole in the outer shop wall to keep the air pressure and possible dust out of the shop. That sucker blows some serious air outside. I attached a rubber flex duct to the wall outlet to allow me to roll the cabinet out and swivel it around for service with minimal effort. I also installed an angle steel floor guide track, along with side facing rollers on the dolly base to allow exact positioning of the cabinet when going back in place.
 

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Strouty.......got any pictures of yours?
I'd like to find one in a scrap yard for $200, but that ain't happenin...

The newest rendition is mounted to an excavator. I will try and get a picture or find one of it. Pretty basic stuff, just not cheap.
 
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I have not in quite a few years, but at one time I did some pot blasting for hot rodders to pay for my own things I needed for my ride, and also did some cabinet blasting with glass beads at the time, mostly aluminum intakes and such. It is more tiring work than it looks like to the casual observer, especially the pot blast work. I have found that giving an individual a per hour rate is not the best way, as they always mentally compare it to their own wages. I timed parts and charged the same amount, but it went over better mentally with them by charging per piece or batch. That is why I suggested you time things to get a better feel for it.
 
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To all. NEVER put a damp or oily part into a blast cabinet to process it. It will contaminate the hell out of a system, and it is a ***** to clean. I have had people bring me oily or greasy parts to blast, and they either get sent packing, or shown the parts washer and told to get busy if I am in a good mood.
 

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Anyone do blast work on the side for $$$.

I have done it as part of my one man machine shop business, but not as a service.
Have a Trinco model 36 that I've had for years. (Smaller parts come in that need rebuilding, and they get cleaned up in the process). It's siphon, but doesn't work too bad with Alox in it. But I have been slowly acquiring (hoarding?) equipment to do bigger parts as a stand alone service. I may even advertise, but probably word of mouth mostly.

There is an actual business in a town nearby that only does blasting and powder coating. But in my opinion, they have a wrong approach. They use a bank of small (5hp) electric compressors for example, and the cost of electricity is very high here. I think most of their profit goes to the electric company.
The business changes hands every few years, probably shortly after the new owner figures out he's not making any money??

Just playing around, I blasted a pair of old cast iron clothes irons last week. First I played with the new-to-me siphon cabinet I found on cheap CL a couple weeks ago. It's a disaster and dismally slow. (I will convert it to a pressure-reclamation system in the future) And issues with the wet air made it not fun at all. Then I went at them with my smaller TIP pressure pot and the IR diesel compressor. Even with a small 3/16 nozzle, it took less than 5 minutes, so I was done before the water became an issue, and then I sprayed them with black hammer tone from a rattle can. They were for my girlfriend, and she was quite impressed. I think there are upscale folks that like their 'antiques' around here, for something like this, would gladly pay $40 and up to have their 'antique' dew-dads blasted and rattle-canned. Which would not be too shabby, considering hourly rates VS time spent. But I want to do it in a cabinet not out in the open...
So back to acquiring and fixing up equipment for the process. Gotta get the air drier in some way before I can go much further, I can see that.
I'm also kinda like RJ, I enjoy the theory and discussion of the equipment and the processes.

To all. NEVER put a damp or oily part into a blast cabinet to process it. It will contaminate the hell out of a system, and it is a ***** to clean.

To address that problem, about a month ago, I picked up an old Snap-on pressure parts washer cabinet. It's sorta like an Abrasive blast cabinet, but uses a high pressure pump with a water-soap mixture to blast the gook off of the grimy parts. There are gloves, and a hose with nozzle. I'm doing some repairs to it, the lid is rusted out. Prev owner used the wrong soap which was not for ferrous metals. It works amazingly well.
 
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I've got a Clemco 3cu.ft. pot I picked up last summer.
There's a fairly simple and low cost attachment that you can get (or make)
that injects water into the blast stream. I might give that a try at some point.
Other wet blast systems mix water in with the abrasive,in the pot and yes, that seems it would eliminate the water in air issues altogether. I will need dry air for the pressure cabinets anyway.

BTW if you run across the Dustless Blasting folks, there's much debate on that whole subject. They do a super sales job setting people up in the business of Dustless Blasting, with easy financing options. Bottom line is, it AIN'T as easy as they make it seem.
 

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Clemco wants around $3500 for that. I think I can do it cheaper......MUCH cheaper.
We have a Sunbelt outlet 10 miles from here. I should go check out what they have for blasting equipment.
 
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In looking at that Clemco unit, It seems to be an adapter to allow the water to enter between the air hose and the blast nozzle, easily made. The flow adjuster should be easy to find. The water pump likely is needed to boost the water pressure above the air pressure used in the blasting so it will supply water properly. The picture shows a stroker type diaphragm pump. All seems doable.
 
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Lets feed it with a pressure washer to supply water. I have a commercial 2
Hp pump and motor assembly sitting around.
 

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