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machine_punk
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How are those combo roll, shear, and brakes? I've never seen one in person or used one. I have a 4 foot box and pan break, and a 4 foot roll. Still would like a stomp shear, but I'm running out of room (and money)....I'd really like to have a 12 foot CNC press brake...
I've been wondering this myself. Most won't do more than 20 gauge, though I know Machine Punk probably invested a little more to get the ability to do 18 gauge. It's a big jump in price. But still, from the HF model all the way up to "real" industrial models, it seems to be 20 gauge steel max.
Some of the brakes I've seen will do 16ga, which is nice. Maybe it's worth going with separate pieces? Or maybe a 3 in 1 for gen purpose and a press brake add-on to the hydraulic shop press for the big stuff....
I have really been enjoying mine. It really takes a lot of the labor out of my prototyping and opens up design choices which really aren't practical without the right equipment.
I haven't pushed it hard and I rarely work in steel anymore. This model, the Baileigh 5216, is rated for 16 gauge steel at the full width of 52 inches. I know it will bend 0.40 (OOPS...thanks for the catch, GORILLA--make that 0.040) aluminum easily enough, but I haven't put it through its paces with steel. Based on what I remember while working with 18 gauge steel, I am pretty sure both the shear and brake will handle that easily. The slip roll is downright massive, I'm pretty sure that will do the 16 gauge steel easily. When they recommend having two people to take that roll off, they are not kidding. That stinker is shockingly heavy...
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I've seen the HF models in the store, and while they are nearly an identical design, the Baileigh is MUCH more massive. I think there is something to be said for quality control too (i.e. I think Baileigh stands behind their name and do a much better job at getting their factory to adhere to strict quality standards). This thing weighs 1200 pounds. I had to pretty much take everything off it when it arrived (I'm pretty sure they sprayed it with, or dunked it in, cosmoline--that took about 10 hours with mineral spirits to clean up)...
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The directions are pretty good at telling you how to adjust everything...and I have been able to get good results with the shear and the brake. I just really haven't messed much with the roll yet.
All of that being said, I'd choose old American iron any day, IF I had the room, but I don't. As it is, the Baileigh, on it's bench, takes up a good 25% of my shop space. Give me the choice, and I'd have old, American iron for a stomp shear and and the new Baileigh magnetic brake. The versatility of that magnetic brake is amazing. I'd add old iron for a slip roll too, but that isn't something I use much right now.
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I hope I answered your questions (as well as I can...I just don't work that much in steel any more). The Baileigh is definitely a cut above the HF machines and I'm pretty sure it will bend the rated material. With enough room, though, I'd easily go for old, used industrial equipment.
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