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You could always add Solar with battery back up to the invertor grid connected and then the Generator would be a fail safe.
First, there are a lot of trees that would interfere with the sunlight.

Second, Maine does not get a huge amount of sunlight anyway.
 
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First, there are a lot of trees that would interfere with the sunlight.

Second, Maine does not get a huge amount of sunlight anyway.

The same can be said about my location. With Solar all you need is daylight. Even on a cloudy day I still generate Solar power.

Edited note: Came back to respond to a post that must have been deleted :headscrat . Anyway I will now add a country like Germany (further north of the equator than New Zealand is south of the equator) makes more use of Solar power than a place like Australia. So if Solar is an option I say go for it.
 
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The weather has turned on us again but the guys don't like to miss work so they build tents.

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They like missing work, they just like missing $$ on their paycheck.. :lol_hitti

Honestly, I must give you a big thanks as the first time you posted a tarp being set up. It jogged my memory as to a tarp "canopy" I made years ago for a hot summer weeekend at the track. I used the same idea to create some shade while doing my chimney.


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While the tarp is right at camera level and hard to see, it's there. Thanks for reminding me. :beer:
 

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Its funny, the only time I hear the word marquee is in reference to a sign outside of a theatre or other such building. The English language is a funny thing isnt' it?
 

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But the signage is posted on the marquee which is the canopy extending out from the entrance whether it is in tent form or a permanent structure.
 

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Just to try and understand this, is he now preparing for WWIII? 45 days of power seems a lot but I guess if it snows a lot it can easily take down power lines for a while?? What does he gain by having the generator(s) indoors as opposed to behind his garage out the way?

Some of the above sounds more like an IT datacenter than a home.

generator inside for easier maintenance and weather protection, plus being able to have an 'open frame' type generator vs a fully enclosed unit. I've seen 50 year old generators that are indoors like this that look brand new. Also easier to deal with potential environmental issues if there is a leak -no soil (or river) to contaminate.

45 days isnt really alot if youre out in the sticks in ice storm country. I would rather sit on 45 days of diesel and have a 5 day outage than have 15 days of diesel and a 30 day outage...
 

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On a side note to Diesel fuel storage - Be aware Diesel fuel is made for summer and winter use, now that means you need to run the Generator regulary and use fuel as the Sulpher content is changed to suit summer or winter. Also a Diesel needs to be run for a good time and not just started and stopped to see if it will go. Start it up and make it work for an hour or more and add fresh fuel to the storage tanks regulary and this will avoid issues with both fuel stored as well as connections and power loadings etc.
 

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On a side note to Diesel fuel storage - Be aware Diesel fuel is made for summer and winter use, now that means you need to run the Generator regulary and use fuel as the Sulpher content is changed to suit summer or winter. Also a Diesel needs to be run for a good time and not just started and stopped to see if it will go. Start it up and make it work for an hour or more and add fresh fuel to the storage tanks regulary and this will avoid issues with both fuel stored as well as connections and power loadings etc.

Good ideas. Some of which I had never thought of. How about putting a pump on the storage tank and using it to fill your vehicles? Have it filled up every so often (monthly, quarterly???) by a tanker and run your generator for a day or two a month.

Anyway.... enough of my daydreaming about the world's largest generator. How about we get some more pictures of the build????? I've never seen a house with this much concrete in it.
 

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Good ideas. Some of which I had never thought of. How about putting a pump on the storage tank and using it to fill your vehicles? Have it filled up every so often (monthly, quarterly???) by a tanker and run your generator for a day or two a month.

Anyway.... enough of my daydreaming about the world's largest generator. How about we get some more pictures of the build????? I've never seen a house with this much concrete in it.

Or you could just keep topping it up yourself with a fuel trailer :thumbup: but the idea of filling your own vehicles does have merit.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74661
Sorry the photos are now missing but below is the trailer.
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You would also need something like this to pump Diesel in and out.
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Maybe a diesel barge pull up, down by the dock and run a refueling line up to the storage tank.
 

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Good ideas. Some of which I had never thought of. How about putting a pump on the storage tank and using it to fill your vehicles? Have it filled up every so often (monthly, quarterly???) by a tanker and run your generator for a day or two a month.

Anyway.... enough of my daydreaming about the world's largest generator. How about we get some more pictures of the build????? I've never seen a house with this much concrete in it.


Only problem is off road Diesel is dyed to allow for detection if use in on the road vehicles. Big fines if caught using off-road diesel in on the road vehicles. Supposedly takes several tanks of "legal" diesel to wash out the use of off-road diesel. Been reports of sniffers that can detect illegal diesel in on road vehicles.
 
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You guys have been busy. Massive generators, solar power, diesel storage and tents. Like I said before, I'm glad you're finding stuff to talk about and you're welcome to talk about it here.

I spent the weekend at the site and was without an internet connection but will do an update shortly. Had to catch up on all the conversation first.

We've set up a 30' 5th wheel camper and plan to spend our weekends on site. If our current house sells anytime soon, the camper will be home sweet home. Most of the weekend projects involved getting the camper set up; hooking up power, water and sanitary as well as a quick 14x16 patio. Did get a little work done on the house though. More on that shortly.
 
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Most of the weekend projects involved getting the camper set up; hooking up power, water and sanitary as well as a quick 14x16 patio. Did get a little work done on the house though. More on that shortly.

What kind of generator :spit:
 
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By the end of the day Friday, we had most of the formwork stripped for the terrace wall. We're almost done the exterior architectural concrete.

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I've got to admit, I'll be glad to have it behind us. It has come out OK but it's slow and difficult. We have more to do but we'll be able to use more conventional methods and will be working off a nice flat floor.

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I ran three sched 40 pipes as sleeves for the geothermal lines between the terrace and basement walls. If I ever have to pull pipe or wiring for some reason, I won't have to dig up the terrace

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Here's where they come into the basement.

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I also connected the 4" sanitary and an 1 1/4" conduit for the lift pump.

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Once all the pipes were grouted in we got the waterproofing crew back to do the top of the garage wall and the basement

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The round holes you see are the intake and exhaust for the fresh air system. It was the only place we could put them and not have snow cover them in the winter

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We only went as high as the bottom of the duct work crawl space on the interior wall. This area is under a slab on grade and shouldn't see any significant water anyway.

We also got the garage backfilled. We tried to keep a layer of sand between the water proofing and the back fill material, which are native soils.

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Meanwhile the forming crew finished up the forming and rebar for the remainder of the terrace and the front wall of the house

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Because of the structural steel framing, we are forming concrete pilasters with pier reinforcing. We use the stirrups to position the four #5 dowels.

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Placed the footings by noon

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Over the weekend, I installed the under drain for the basement. I pinned the filter fabric to the drainage mat before running the pipe. We'll place stone around the pipe and then lay the fabric over the stone.

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The under drain will encircle the basement and pick up the terrace drains before day lighting out the front.

I mentioned a little patio I threw together in front of the camper. A buddy of mine was fishing out front when he and his son were drawn in by the sound of back up alarms

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Young Zack was in charge of compaction.

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He did a fine job.
 
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We've set up a 30' 5th wheel camper and plan to spend our weekends on site. If our current house sells anytime soon, the camper will be home sweet home. Most of the weekend projects involved getting the camper set up; hooking up power, water and sanitary as well as a quick 14x16 patio. Did get a little work done on the house though. More on that shortly.

Now that would be a home away from home , sort of.
 

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Young Zack was in charge of compaction.

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He did a fine job.

He looks lilke he knows what he is doing, I foresee a future construction foreman or a serious DIYer in his future. ;)

Honestly, that would make a great picture to get framed and hand over to young Zack as a B-day gift.
 
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Work continues on the formwork for the next wall placement

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We also used the conveyor to stone the under drain piping I ran over the weekend.

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The crew extended the lines from where I left off. We used a case of 90 degree elbows working our way around the basement.

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Once the exterior grade dropped below finish floor, we switched to solid pipe and picked up the line to the terrace floor drains

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We finally got around to 'day-lighting' the north end of the original footing drain that has been slowly but steadily been creating a swamp - it hasn't stopped running in two months. Geez!

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We used the conveyor to berm up some sand around the foundation - I'm trying to keep big rocks away from the foundation walls and waterproofing.

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It takes 2-3 passes to get the sand layer to the top of the foundations walls

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I'd hate to think how tough this job would be without the conveyor truck - it really makes difficult jobs easy.

As I mentioned yesterday, we've set up a camper on site

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So far we've been spending weekends on site but if we sell our current house, we'll be moving in full time.

I did a quick build of a patio so we don't have to deal with all the dirt and mud

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We introduced Henry to his future home

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He seemed to settle in pretty comfortably.
 
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I'm sure the RV is comfy, especially with that great extended "living space" (the patio). But I bet the crew goes on some extra overtime if you sell the house and move in full time for a while :). I did some time in a 32 footer and it can get old quickly without your "space".

Don't know much about concrete work, but it sure is fun to watch in wonderment.
 
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I like the idea of running the storm water pipe for your cables. Do you plan to have a place to store that 5th wheeler undercover when it is all done ?

We'll probably winterize it and leave it in place this year. It was a bear getting it down to the site and in position. Not to mention the fact that we may need it next summer too.

Now that would be a home away from home , sort of.

It feels like home even if it is still a construction site.

Nice progress. Lots of work. Thanks for the update.

Thanks. Glad you're enjoying the build.

He looks lilke he knows what he is doing, I foresee a future construction foreman or a serious DIYer in his future. ;)

Honestly, that would make a great picture to get framed and hand over to young Zack as a B-day gift.

His dad is a general contractor. I suspect he'll spend a few summers on the working end of construction equipment. We'll definitely make sure he and his folks get a copy of the photo
 

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It feels like home even if it is still a construction site.

I had a 27footer parked out the front of my place for a year or 2 it was our kitchen and bathroom. But not a patch on your slider.. the kids used to roller blade around in the house before the drywall went up..
 

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Doug, using child labor? Oh my. I could use a concrete duckblind painted over in camo if you don't mind. I'll supply the decoys since cement decoys don't work very well. Looks like a great site!
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:headscrat Pardon me but how do you winterise it ? Cover it ?

In Oklahoma it doesn't get as cold as up north so their procedure may vary.

The procedure I use is:
- Purchase a gallon of RV "antifreeze"
- Dump the tanks.
- Drain the hot water tank and flip the bypass valves. Put the drain plug back in.
- Drain the fresh water reservoir. Put the drain back in.
- Set the pump up to pull from the RV "antifreeze" bottle
- Turn the pump on
- Run each faucet until the RV "antifreeze" (it's red) starts coming out.
- Run the shower until the RV "antifreeze" starts coming out.
- Run the tub until the RV "antifreeze" starts coming out.
- Plug the air vents to the stove, vent hood, and other areas to keep the mud daubers out.

Oh, and you really DON'T want the antifreeze in the hot water tank. It smells terrible and tastes worse.
 

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In Oklahoma it doesn't get as cold as up north so their procedure may vary.

The procedure I use is:
- Purchase a gallon of RV "antifreeze"
- Dump the tanks.
- Drain the hot water tank and flip the bypass valves. Put the drain plug back in.
- Drain the fresh water reservoir. Put the drain back in.
- Set the pump up to pull from the RV "antifreeze" bottle
- Turn the pump on
- Run each faucet until the RV "antifreeze" (it's red) starts coming out.
- Run the shower until the RV "antifreeze" starts coming out.
- Run the tub until the RV "antifreeze" starts coming out.
- Plug the air vents to the stove, vent hood, and other areas to keep the mud daubers out.

Oh, and you really DON'T want the antifreeze in the hot water tank. It smells terrible and tastes worse.

:wtf: You have to do all that ! WOW here you just park it in the Garage and maybe cover it.
 

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:wtf: You have to do all that ! WOW here you just park it in the Garage and maybe cover it.

Portland sees lows of 0 °F (−18 °C) or below approximately 10 times per year and that freezes any unprotected water pipe (heat tape or insulated burial is protection). It's record low is -39 (conveniently the same in F and C).

At the other extreme, daytime high this week is 90 °F (32 °C).
 

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It takes about 2 - 3 hours for our 5th wheel. And that's with a few beers in between. If we had bought one of those fancy enclosed bottom winter rated ones they sell up here we wouldn't have to do it.

It's no big deal. Also have to do it to the boat. Or 3 boats in our case. :lol_hitti
 
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Today we finished up the MDO lining for the architectural concrete and placed the last of the electrical boxes for the site lighting.

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We will place these walls tomorrow.

Now, how about something a little different from all the concrete. Remember the wood framed garage at the top of the driveway? Well we're finally going to install some rain screen siding.

First off, let me acknowledge Platinum Overcast. I stole, er, um.......was inspired by several of his design ideas including the shed roof and rain screen siding.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73263

Here's the siding material. It's called Eter-Color and comes in 4x8 and 4x10 sheets

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One of the concerns with rain screen is protecting the furring strips from rot. I opted to rip 3/4" strips of Advantech plywood for furring and cover it with Ice and Water Shield to protect it.

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The next step is to apply the epdm strips over the furring and then attach the panels.
 
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It takes about 2 - 3 hours for our 5th wheel. And that's with a few beers in between. If we had bought one of those fancy enclosed bottom winter rated ones they sell up here we wouldn't have to do it.

It's no big deal. Also have to do it to the boat. Or 3 boats in our case. :lol_hitti

Glad I can keep mine little Camper indoors and not have to do all that.

Have you done any work on the crane in that garage?

Crane ! With all the other chatter I missed this one so will be looking to see how and where this goes as well as more information on the Gen set etc. as to how all that works into your plans.
 

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I must admit, I don't remember how I found these forums but just reading through this thread, I registered and now I'm hooked!
 
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