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I hear you man. Many times I wanted to just slap it together and move on. But that's not how I want things to go down. I know I want them to look a certain way, and I know I want them to last. And, well, they're my creation, so I don't want to tell people that I built some crappy looking doors right?

I mean, whats the rush? It's been two years already...:dunno:
 
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Just cause I'm not building doors doesn't mean nothing is going on. CL score. Paid next to nuthin for it.
 

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Killer band saw fergus!!

I've been looking for a band saw but I need one that goes slow enough for cutting metal. No luck so far.

You probably saw the '56 Craftsman drill press I picked up recently. I also got a '61 Craftsman 100 10" table saw for $60. That's all painted and polished now and it runs sweet! I want to get an old Dewalt RAS like yours but now that I have two power bronze pieces I'll probably go for an old Craftsman one. I see them all the time for pretty cheap.
 

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By the way Fergus, I've been in a lot of California but where the HELL is "Yolo County"?! No insult intended, I've just never heard of it. Gold Country maybe?
 
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TB. I saw you had the drill press, but the saw too? You really ****. Hey what brand if paint did you use?

Dan, I'm right by UC Davis.
 

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TB. I saw you had the drill press, but the saw too? You really ****. Hey what brand if paint did you use?

Dan, I'm right by UC Davis.

Lol, couldn't help myself. I used Hammerite brand paint. Just says "gold" on it. Kinda spendy @ almost $10 (local Ace hdw which is always a bit high) a can but it seems to go quite a ways. I just posted new pics of the saw in my thread if you wanna have a look.
 

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Fergus

After a quick perusal of the Sears catalogs on the Rose Antiques site http://www.roseantiquetools.com/id116.html, that looks like about a 1959 version of the 12 inch bandsaw. It also looks like you might have the slow speed converter on your saw. The box on the out put side of the motor looks just like the one shown in the catalog. Do you have a picture of the bottom of the saw on the belt side?

If have the slow speed adapter, you hit a real home run on acquiring this little beauty. That accessory is a much sought after little piece of equipment.:bowdown:
 
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Good eye Shoottx...it is indeed a slow speed converter. The best picture I've got right now:

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Didn't even know it had it when I went to look at it. IN fact, here is the picture that idiot that sold it had on craigslist when I went to go look at it:

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Needless to say, that wasn't the same saw.

When I got to the place to look at it, we had to walk down this guys back yard, down about a hundred feet of concrete steps down a hill, step over all kinds of trash and into this ramshackle barn where two shirtless dirt-bag type guys were hauling off trash. It was sitting in a corner of the barn covered with cobwebs, dust, grease and rust. My dad went with me and said "It looks like we're in a scene from "Deliverance". :spit:

We got it back up to this guys garage to plug it in. It hardly moved and started smoking. Needless to say, he didn't get full asking price. In retrospect, I don't know why I even let him start it. But it surely drove the price down.

I got it home, pulled the upper cover, brushed it off, blew all the dust out with the air hose, blew the motor out, cranked it through several times. The band was rusty but freed up nicely. Plugged it in and it started right up.


The table was pretty bad:

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Got the light weight "bent" wire wheel on the grinder and lightly cleaned what rust off I could:

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The top of the table is somewhat pock marked...I don't know if I should worry about it or not. I've read where other people have used a RO sander with fine grit to get saw tables looking real good after damage like this has occurred. What do you guys think?

And I didn't even know what the speed reducer did until I got back home with it. Its really a neat little gizmo... am I assuming correctly that it slows down the blade for metal cutting? One of the belts on the converter has small cracks in it. Hopefully I can get those replaced somewhere when they go.

Thanks for the link BTW...I assumed the converter was an aftermarket piece...but that makes it even cooler to know it was a Craftsman option!
 
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Yeah, it is a Cman option, and as I said in my last post it is a much sought after option.

As far as the table, I use wet dry sandpaper wrapped around a flat block to get a smooth surface. As long as the table is flat, the saw will work well. Some folks get really hung up on appearance and go as far as having the top surface ground. I don't belong to that school of thought.

Oh and I also have the same saw, only I am second owner of a 1949 version. wish I had the slow speed option.

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If you need bearings call Lynne at Accurate Bearing http://accuratebearing.com/, and for replacement tires and blades call Bobby at Woodworkers Tool works http://woodworkerstoolworks.com/ They are all really good folks.
 

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blew the motor out

One of the text books I used in my classroom, in another life, warned not to use compressed air to blow the dust off motor windings. They were worried about the dust being abrasive enough to remove the insulation thus destroying the motor. They suggested using a bicycle tire pump.
 

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By the way Fergus, I've been in a lot of California but where the HELL is "Yolo County"?! No insult intended, I've just never heard of it. Gold Country maybe?

YOLO = You Only Live Once. My middle school daughter recently filled me in. There's a line of clothes with it printed on it.
 
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Cougar, the kids are all over that right now. The name of the county actually IS Yolo though. I think its a Native American tribe?
 

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Spent some time this afternoon catching up- that Craftsman bandsaw is outstanding, and I cannot believe you found such great door hardware! I can believe how slow it is to refinish sash- it is a real pain. I spent most of a summer when I was in college reglazing windows in a warehouse. I did a lot of them, but I don't think I learned much, based on how long it still takes me to do one. I've got to find one of those English-style putty knives, I'm sure that will help... Looks like everything is coming along fine, can't wait to see the doors!
 
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Thanks Thruxton. That saw IS really cool. The more I look at it the more I like it. The hardware was already there. Same story with it too - I'm really glad I kept it.

Sash does ****. Hopefully it will be worth the trouble.

It took me three times looking at your thread to realize that your doors were just ONE sheet of 3/4 plus 1x6 on either side. That gives it looks and strength. Pretty genius really. I might end up following your strategy after all for my doors. I'll figure that out soon.
 
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Due to some requests in other threads, here's a few more pics of the speed reducer on the bandsaw:

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The shafts are concentric and the inner pulley turns at full speed while the outer pulley has the gear reduction. I'm not sure, but I'd guess its somewhere in the neighborhood of 4:1 based on a quick look at the size of the pulleys.


In other news, another CL score...was holding out on you guys. Picked up this old Shopsmith about a month ago:

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Came with more stuff than I know what to do with:

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Tons of tools for turning, faceplates, arbors, saw arbors, disc sanders, a jointer (on the floor in the pic) a mortiser set-up, a shaper, table extensions, two miter gauges, the list goes on.


It made a ton of noise when I got it. The man who sold it said it belonged to his father originally. The serial number indicates its a 1954 model. Had to adjust the belts and clean and lube everything. Works good now. $100.
 

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Noticed the ShopSmith peeking around the corner in a photo from a month ago. Figured it was too big for you to have borrowed it. That was a nice find with all the accessories. Sorting them out and cleaning them up of course will be a project. Looks like it came with the jointer. That could come in handy.
 
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Progress pics from yesterday:

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Using short blocks of wood as cauls to help spread clamping pressure accross the 1x6 boards

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Condiment bottle for glue applicator. $1. Beats the heck out of trying to refill the little Titebond bottle. DAMHIK

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Face laid out


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Inside of door, ready for inner skin to be fitted.

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Had to re-cut the window opening since the wood has moved over the last 4 weeks.

Et voila...

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Now I just gotta do that again. Twice.
 
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The last of three doors is underway

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Should be finished today, hopefully will hang them tonight and then prime and hang windows tomorrow.
 

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You've come a long way. Looking great. Wish I could find cabinets like that. When I bought my house 10 years ago, the first thing I had to do was build a workbench. The house needed work and I didn't have the workbench to help. That smaller bench you have had laying around is about the size of what I found in my garage when i bought my house. It is still in use, but I have since added to it. I too have built a rolling cart. I came across a bottom from a gig cart. (A rolling box to hold sound equipment) The casters where already on it so I built up from there. What I like is the wheels are kind of soft, so I can use it in the house when doing projects in there. Such as repairing a wall or painting a room. Someplace to put things down onto and yet still move it easily without floor damage. I know what you mean about the door. They are so expensive. Mine needed replacing and it took me alost a year to do. I did save some money and did it myself. You are doing a wonderful job with your garage, so don't loose hope. I will be the way you envision it in time.
 
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Pete: Thanks!

Mr Navel Examinator: Yes. It was like a parabolic decrease in required time. And stuff.

Steve: Thanks for the kind words and words of encouragment. Welcome to my thread and GJ :thumbup:

Last night:

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Tonight:


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Looking good! Can't wait to see a daylight shot of the entire face of the shop when the glazing goes in and the handles go on. Oh, I know, do a side by side picture post of what it looked like before you started the refurb, and what it looks like now (from the same photo position).
 
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Hotfr8: I hear you. If NICE wood was in the budget, I would have stained them too. But, I used rough sawn hemlock to save some bucks...lots of caulk was a necessity on this one! I went with the Jack Olsen "if it looks good from ten feet" idea.

Yep...mo betta pictures will be on the list for tomorrow...I was trying to beat a rainstorm tonight...just to get the primer on before the rain fell. Then the storm blew through without depositing more than 2 minutes of a very slight sprinkle. Oh well.
 

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Great carpentry work, Fergus! I am digging those new doors! Roller barn doors are definitely handy, will make it nice and easy to move large stuff in and out.

BTW, love that vintage Craftsman bandsaw! :rocker:
 

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Nice doors, Fergus. Like the location of the hangers too. Maximizing the door opening while having a minimum of track. Very cool.

Ody.
 
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