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The ones I bought were, and they're great. My 19MM one has seen some heavy use, especially in aftermarket wheels where the clearances are tight, and it's holding up quite well.

Well worth the twenty bucks for the deep 1/2" set.
 
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12" compound mitre saw - Fail, cuts crooked, waste of money

Breaker hammer - Pass, looks just like bosch and works like one

3-1/2 Cubic Ft. Cement Mixer - barely pass, mixing paddles did not line up with the pre drilled holes. Assembally was a PITA finally ahd to weld the paddles. Does it's job though

3-in-1 1" SDS Rotary Hammer - Pass, has been abused very bad for 5 years now yet still works.

Welding gloves (39664)- Barely pass, very little insulation you will feel the burn

6 piece mini pliers set (94931) - Pass, wire uses them for jewelery making, have held up better than craftsman.

Flooring Stapler - Pass put down 2000 sqft oak hardwood only 1 jam. Cheaper than renting.

10 Gauge 21º Angle Framing Nailer (98733) - Fail spend more time clearing jams than nailing by hand.

16 Gauge Heavy Duty Brad Finish Nailer (97520) - Pass works great

18 Gauge 3/8" to 2" Air Brad Nailer (old version) - Pass works great

12 ga extension cord - Pass
 

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10 Gauge 21º Angle Framing Nailer (98733) - Fail spend more time clearing jams than nailing by hand.
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I have one of those 21 degree, used it to build a shed and an extension on the shed, about fifty clips of nails. Never even a single jam. I gave it a pass. Is yours the latest one?
Where did you buy the nails?
I bought the cheap ones from HF.
What size nails?
Just wondering as I was so happy with mine, and your's seems to have let you down totally.
 

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The 3 pc three-jaw pullers are pass.

I used the 6" one to pull the frozen (rusted) front brake rotors off yesterday. It was a struggle because the 6" one was a bit too small so I had to hook onto the vent holes on the rotor.

So I ordered the 8" one today, along with the mechanical stool (mentioned as pass by several in this thread).

The 3 Oz. Mini Grease Gun is also a pass. Well made.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93486
 
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I bought it 2 or 3 years ago. A month after I bought it for $89.99 they lowered the price. I am thinking maybe they sourced the lower priced model somewhere else better quality.

I use their nails with it and it always tries to fire two nails at once then it jams. Once I use up the rest of the HF nails I will buy some from Fastenal and see if they work better. Maybe I just just a bad nailer.
 

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I bought the self shading weldinh helmet and 3 in buffer yesterday . Tried the helmet today works great --- Pass Haven't tried the buffer yet will let you guys know
 

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3lb deadblow hammer - pass
long reach plier set - mostly pass, if you use these a ton or need to girp something really tight get a better set
3pc puller set - pass so far, only had a chance to use one, and it was a light job, time will tell
 

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I bought it 2 or 3 years ago. A month after I bought it for $89.99 they lowered the price. I am thinking maybe they sourced the lower priced model somewhere else better quality.

I use their nails with it and it always tries to fire two nails at once then it jams. Once I use up the rest of the HF nails I will buy some from Fastenal and see if they work better. Maybe I just just a bad nailer.

That is possible. How many pounds are you using on it? I use 60 to drive 2.5 inch nails flush.
 

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Please be aware that in general Elroy is not a big fan of Harbor Freight. However they have their place. Stopped by the local store this evening to pick up some socket strips for these:

Stopped by "Southern Tool" the other day and found these 1/2" drive metrics for $1 each. Great deal other than the fact YOU had to dig them out and assemble the set. That only took about 45 minutes which kind of sucked. We're good now thru 32 mm.

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And happened to notice this 1/2" drive short ratchet for $4.99

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Our mind started to think how it would fit in with the rest of the population:

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And quickly determined that for this amount of coin it was joining the crew. Especially considering that it is 100% plain. NO MARKINGS what so ever.

And it "almost" matches up:

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So in this case Harbor Freight is a winner. :lol_hitti:lol_hitti:lol_hitti

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Their trailers are a definite PASS. I bought this one for $250 about a year ago, so they're prices have gone up:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=90154

The foldable option isn't very useful because the trailer weights A TON and the little caster they include aren't worth ****. I had a caster break off once when folding the trailer and it got a little scary. So those need to be upgraded if you plan to fold it.

The swing-back trailor jack is also a great buy, especially for the money. PASS.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=41005

PVC low-profile creeper. PASS. It's so much nicer then the old wooden creepers and metal tubing ones with little wheels. This one has nice large wheels that roll nicely over cords.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=2745
 

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elroy, shut the window. there appears to be a bird in your kitchen you might want to flip it.
 

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So, I figured i've used this thread enough to make this my first post, looks like a great site!

3/8 Impact Gun. Paid $20. Pass* With asterix....
The gun is only rated at 70lbs, so I just use it for simple things in place of a regular ratchet at the shop to speed things up. Well I got greedy and started using it for wheels instead of my Snap-On gun.. Well one day it locked up, took it apart, removed the piece of the anvil that broke off, and has worked great ever since, I don't use it for rims anymore, lol. It worked for a month or two taking rims off though, probably did about 25-30 sets of tires! Also, the snap ring on the head broke off, replaced it for about $0.80. One thing though, LOUD as heck. Like high pitched, ear piercing loud!

1/4, 3/8 metal socket rail PASS
For like $0.77 each, great deal for the sockets that i don't tend to use much but often enough i need them accessible. The 1/4 are a bit tight, but work great. Sure i'd love to have a nice sliding Snap-On tray, but I'd rather spend my money on my boat or other hobbies.

Air Hammer Paid $20, Pass
Removed ball joints, CV shafts, ect with ease. Came with like 8 different ends also.

Extendible retrieval magnet: Pass
How can you screw this up, honestly?

Black handled pry bar: Pass
Stood up to everything i've given it. Might buy another to keep in my boat as a carp beater!

Tape Measure: Pass
Another go figure! It tells me the length each time I use it!
 

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Extendible retrieval magnet: Pass
How can you screw this up, honestly?

The magnet part of mine decided to "unglue" from the body of the tool while I was trying to retrieve a cam chain from the case of a '79 Yamaha. SUPERFAIL!!

36" "Made In India" crowbar. Bent like it was made of lead. Total junk! FAIL FAIL!

$9.99 Heat gun. Works OK so far but would probably melt itself/start on fire if used for more than a few minutes. PASS (so far)!

2 1/4 ton floor jack. Use it all the time. Wish it had a quick lift feature, but other than that, can't complain. Does its job. PASS!
 
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pittsburg branded deep metric 1/2 impact sockets 10-24mm PASS (the 21mm had a short lived life but i was using it multiple times daily 6 days a week doing tire rotations at Toyota dealership it got replaced with a snap on but all others have taken much abuse)

3/8 x 8 Flat head screwdriver PASS bought to remove hubcaps and pry things with and 3 years later the tip is only slightly twisted but not enough to make a difference and for $1.89 its a sure thing
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=94619

4 piece tongue and groove pliers PASS got these for christmas and while they arent channel locks they do have pretty hard teeth and have a very good fit and function well you cant really mess up slip joint pliers too much, i keep em at home and they have saved me multiple times
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=43553

4 piece prybar set PASS also christmas gift they are all in my box at work they have been hammered on had a pretty hard life, they do flex some but not enough to warrant any concern. I wouldnt trust them to hang off of but for even medium duty they are great and the smaller ones are nice as well for the bigger jobs i use my craftsman ones
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=43553
craftsman 31 inch is better
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00943285000P?keyword=prybar
just got the craftsman 36 inch today and it is a MONSTER
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00943286000P?keyword=prybar
the shaft on the 36in is almost as big as the handle a huge improvment over the 31inch

11 piece long handle metric wrench set BIG PASS ive only had these about a week and only to compliment my plain craftsman metric but these suckers are loooong they are a good inch longer than my SO Flank Drive Plus and the Comparable Matco Long patterns. The finish is dull chrome but the fit is amazing. They mic`ed tighter than buddies matco set on the open end and same on box end. These wrenches are an amazing awesome deal for $25 i am going to get the SAE set soon now. Probably my greatest HF purchase so far
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47067

6 inch "industrial" c-clamp PASS these are all cast straight no bent ones here, nice quality threads nice smooth operation and they were on sale for $3.99 each so even better when compared to atleast $10 anywhere else

Not HF But competitor brand

Cal-Hawk 15pc 1/2 impact socket set PASS Better Bargain Than Pittsburg These are available at our local wholesale tool store competitor to HF but with some higher quality tools available. They are a great buy and take abuse at our shop being used by multiple mechanics and havent had one single one break yet. the blow molded case is a very nice touch and these sets can be had locally in SAE or MM for under $25 The larger sizes are nice to have as well
http://www.dpciwholesale.com/cart.php?target=product&product_id=476
 
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People sure seem to like those H.F. impact sockets. Maybe I will get around to exchanging mine. I broke three in short order under low torque and stopped using them.
 

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Well, I am to the point now where I will NEVER go to Harbor Freight again.
I bought a pair of pliers.. The tip broke off one of the first times I used it. Hardly any pressure on it.

Seriously, avoid this place. I can't think of one thing I bought there that actually ended up working.

You just end up buying things twice and spending more money in the end + wasted time.
 

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Well, I am to the point now where I will NEVER go to Harbor Freight again.
I bought a pair of pliers.. The tip broke off one of the first times I used it. Hardly any pressure on it.

Seriously, avoid this place. I can't think of one thing I bought there that actually ended up working.

You just end up buying things twice and spending more money in the end + wasted time.

Curious, you think the other 100 or so posters are all lying, stupid or idiots?:headscrat
Must be if you are correct...:bounce:
 

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I like their jackstands... had plenty of good luck with them. I mainly go there for disposable rubber gloves, regular work gloves, tarps, and other misc shop accessories. I have a small collection of their tools that I use for junkyard runs... that way if it gets lost I'm not out anything.
 

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The 1/2" swivel (roto) ratchet is a huge pass. Very smooth, quiet, and fine toothed.

The 3/8" stubby swivel is also a pass but it is louder than the 1/2".

I also have a Kobalt 3/8" roto ratchet (I love this one) and the Harbor Freight 1/2" is just as nice.

Used the 6" 3-jaw puller again today to replace the rear brake rotors and it again worked fine.
 

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Used the 6" 3-jaw puller again today to replace the rear brake rotors and it again worked fine.

Is this puller made in India? I bought one of their 4-piece three jaw puller sets the other week. Made in India. Feels pretty chintzy, but have not used it yet.
 

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Is this puller made in India? I bought one of their 4-piece three jaw puller sets the other week. Made in India. Feels pretty chintzy, but have not used it yet.

Mine came in a 3-pc box and I did not even read if it is from China or India. The box was very bad but the pullers are OK, although a bit thin in materials.
 

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Curious, you think the other 100 or so posters are all lying, stupid or idiots?:headscrat
Must be if you are correct...:bounce:
As far as I can see the reviews are mixed, at best. The fact that there even has to be a thread like this to discern whether things from the store even work is ridiculous.

Some of the positive reviews are a bit puzzling. A pry bar that gets a passing grade but bends extensively?? That's a disaster waiting to happen.
Maybe my expectations are higher than some. In general I've found Craftsman to be the best, affordable brand for homeowners, automotive work. I break Craftsman stuff all the time, but atleast its simple to exchange.

I seriously think every single thing I have bought from Harbor Freight has broken. That's all I can say.. That's great if others have had good luck, but I haven't.

I also had bought a gear puller kit some time back (maybe a year or 2 ago). Was using one a few days ago.

Snap. Tip broke off.
The 40 pound part I was working on then fell off the bench and almost hit my foot.


Actually.. I do have one positive thing to say. I do buy my gloves there. Forgot about that. Nitrile and work gloves. The seem fine. Although, considering the quality of the rest of the things they sell, I imagine they contain cancer causing materials or something. Haven't figured out the "catch" just yet. :thumbup:
 
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The key to making this thread useful is to reference a specific item. Your welcome to your opinion that HF *****, it just doesn't help anybody.

I've got the 1/2", 3/8", and 1/4" stubby swivel ratchets and love them. I hate to say it, but I grab that 3/8" drive swivel more often than my 80 tooth snapon.

Other stuff like the 7" variable speed polisher barely works, but as long as it does work I am not spending 4x as much on a replacement.

Still every time I go to HF, a good portion of what I expected to buy stays at the store because its junk when examined closely. Even then I check new batches to see if what I want has improved or a "good one" with jaws that align etc. accidentally was made.
 

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Some of the positive reviews are a bit puzzling. A pry bar that gets a passing grade but bends extensively?? That's a disaster waiting to happen.
Maybe my expectations are higher than some. In general I've found Craftsman to be the best, affordable brand for homeowners, automotive work. I break Craftsman stuff all the time, but at least its simple to exchange.

Talk about a mixed review...
 

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Hehe.. I break a Craftsman tool after Ive used it for atleast a year extensively. I usually exchange 5-10 sockets/screwdrivers/ratchets, etc a year.
And that's generally because I beat the living **** out of it before it broke.

I probably sound like some tool snob..but I'm really not. Some people think Craftsman is junk, but it's just good enough for me. Harbor Freight..Its just not durable enough for me.

I'll leave the rest of my views to myself. I don't want to agitate anyone. I just wanted to chime into this thread again because the other day it really hit me how bad the quality is when I realized every single thing I had bought from them was broken.
 
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The key to making this thread useful is to reference a specific item. Your welcome to your opinion that HF *****, it just doesn't help anybody.

I've got the 1/2", 3/8", and 1/4" stubby swivel ratchets and love them. I hate to say it, but I grab that 3/8" drive swivel more often than my 80 tooth snapon.

That is the key. There are lot of junks and there are also tools that work. I know you also have the 1/2" swivel and that is a smooth ratchet. I only have this and the 3/8" stubby swivel, which sounds rougher and louder.
 

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Hehe.. I break a Craftsman tool after Ive used it for atleast a year extensively. I usually exchange 5-10 sockets/screwdrivers/ratchets, etc a year.
And that's generally because I beat the living **** out of it before it broke.

I probably sound like some tool snob..but I'm really not. Some people think Craftsman is junk, but it's just good enough for me. Harbor Freight..Its just not durable enough for me.

I'll leave the rest of my views to myself. I don't want to agitate anyone. I just wanted to chime into this thread again because the other day it really hit me how bad the quality is when I realized every single thing I had bought from them was broken.

You don't sound like a 'tool snob' just someone with lot of anger.

I don't break 5-10 tools a year, and I suspect I use my tools more than you do.

In HF, with about 40 thousand SKU's about half or more are good items.
Sears has about 25 thousand SKU’s in the same categories. About twenty percent of that stuff is junk.
Bought lots of junk from Sears, Home Depot, etc. Guys here buy junk from the truck vendors, read the posts.
Lots of HF tools are decent tools, not up to Snap-On, but many of the hand tools are way better than Craftsman present production stuff.
You show me how you can break HF sockets easier than Craftsman and I will buy you a set of Craftsman. Ditto the HF heavy ratchet vs. the Craftsman standard ratchet, which sells for twice as much.
Everyone sells cheaper grade import tools.
Snap-On, the tools of the gods, according to many, sells cheap import stuff along with their other tools.
So of course, does Sears.
Even under the Craftsman label.
I have lots of Craftsman pliers screwdrivers, etc. that are visibly inferior to their HF counterparts. Others are practically indistinguishable.
HF just sells them a lot cheaper than everyone else.

Your arguments are not valid, you offer no documentation, or supporting evidence.

It is obvious you are emotionally involved in hating HF.
I presume your one of the ‘1’s in the TopTul thread also, without ever touching one of their tools.
Fine, you are entitled to your opinion, but calling it a review of the store or the tools is false.
 

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You don't sound like a 'tool snob' just someone with lot of anger.

I don't break 5-10 tools a year, and I suspect I use my tools more than you do.

In HF, with about 40 thousand SKU's about half or more are good items.
Sears has about 25 thousand SKU’s in the same categories. About twenty percent of that stuff is junk.
Bought lots of junk from Sears, Home Depot, etc. Guys here buy junk from the truck vendors, read the posts.
Lots of HF tools are decent tools, not up to Snap-On, but many of the hand tools are way better than Craftsman present production stuff.
You show me how you can break HF sockets easier than Craftsman and I will buy you a set of Craftsman. Ditto the HF heavy ratchet vs. the Craftsman standard ratchet, which sells for twice as much.
Everyone sells cheaper grade import tools.
Snap-On, the tools of the gods, according to many, sells cheap import stuff along with their other tools.
So of course, does Sears.
Even under the Craftsman label.
I have lots of Craftsman pliers screwdrivers, etc. that are visibly inferior to their HF counterparts. Others are practically indistinguishable.
HF just sells them a lot cheaper than everyone else.

Your arguments are not valid, you offer no documentation, or supporting evidence.

It is obvious you are emotionally involved in hating HF.
I presume your one of the ‘1’s in the TopTul thread also, without ever touching one of their tools.
Fine, you are entitled to your opinion, but calling it a review of the store or the tools is false.
:bounce:

I don't even know what TopTul is.

Never bought sockets from Harbor Freight.

I work with my hand tools every single day.

I'm hateful, yet you just posted a long reply about how "wrong" I am. The tools I bought did not work or broke. Check my other posts in this thread. How is that not a valid complaint? Am I wrong because a pair of pliers broke while I was removing a staple? Am I wrong because a pair of clamps broke and shot across my garage?
I have bought a ton of cheap stuff from Wal-mart, Autozone, all kinds of cheap stores. Never in my life have I run into a store with such a high percentage of garbage.

I am by no means a tool aficionado, and I'm not claiming anyone is wrong about anything nor am I talking about anyone. I made a simple post saying I was not going to shop at Harbor freight anymore because the dozen or so purchases I have made there all turned out to be garbage. They are below even my easy to achieve quality standards.

I also don't understand why any of my anger wouldn't be justified. I mean, someone goes into a store, buys several things, all of them break - they aren't allowed to be a little ticked off? I'm also by no means an angry person - so I hope I'm not coming off that way. I just wanted to post my frustration with Harbor Freight. I'm not even mad enough that I want my money back. Simply taking the hit as "lesson learned" and wanted to warn others.
Kinda surprised it agitated so many people... I think had I posted that on any other site, it would have been fine - but emotions run high when talking about tools here! :beer:

At any rate, I certainly did not mean to ruffle any feathers. Lets just let it be.
 
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I think you may have missed the two or three hundred other threads, basically bashing HF because it sells non-union made tools, and almost as bad, non-American made tools.:headscrat

Take that in context, and you can see why your posts could be read that way.
I find it hard to believe you never heard of TopTul, since there are threads every week about it, but maybe you just read certain posts.
You might read the latest TopTul poll post, just to get a sense of what is annoying a few people, myself included.
Lots of guys post who have other motives rather than the tools themselves to post trash numbers or talk.
Every HF thread, a bunch of people, some of whom have never been in the stores, or have glanced through one with total distaste for either import tools, tools priced for the 'working, even lower class' people, or just tools that don't cost as much as the ones they bought, trash the place.
Mixed with these are guys who can afford top grade tools and truly do not believe anyone should buy anything less than the best.

The problem with your original post is you make the sweeping statement that everything there is junk, which is flat not true. You also say everything you bought at HF broke, but frankly, that would assume you somehow only bought already defective items, or items that strangely broke when you used them, but not when the rest of us use them.

You see how it seems to add up?
Now maybe you never read any other threads, never heard of TopTul, or HF bashing threads before, but why would anyone reading your posts assume you never saw this forum before, or any of those type of threads?:confused:

So I will take you at your word, you aren’t just bashing to hate tools for non-rich people, or tools that weren't sold by your union, and that you had worse luck than anyone else I ever met.
Heck, statistically it's possible. But with that luck, don’t buy any lottery tickets, for your own sake.:bounce:
 

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Elroy purchased these Mity-Vac from the "Harbor" at a better price than anyone else in town:

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They are also an authorized Channel Lock distributor so anyone who makes the blanket statement that all they sell is junk has demonstrated clearly they don't have clue what they're talking about.

Now granted a lot of their stuff is imported and not exactly "top drawer" but like the old adage says: Buyer beware applies.
 
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I think you may have missed the two or three hundred other threads, basically bashing HF because it sells non-union made tools, and almost as bad, non-American made tools.:headscrat

Take that in context, and you can see why your posts could be read that way.
I find it hard to believe you never heard of TopTul, since there are threads every week about it, but maybe you just read certain posts.
You might read the latest TopTul poll post, just to get a sense of what is annoying a few people, myself included.
Lots of guys post who have other motives rather than the tools themselves to post trash numbers or talk.
Every HF thread, a bunch of people, some of whom have never been in the stores, or have glanced through one with total distaste for either import tools, tools priced for the 'working, even lower class' people, or just tools that don't cost as much as the ones they bought, trash the place.
Mixed with these are guys who can afford top grade tools and truly do not believe anyone should buy anything less than the best.

The problem with your original post is you make the sweeping statement that everything there is junk, which is flat not true. You also say everything you bought at HF broke, but frankly, that would assume you somehow only bought already defective items, or items that strangely broke when you used them, but not when the rest of us use them.

You see how it seems to add up?
Now maybe you never read any other threads, never heard of TopTul, or HF bashing threads before, but why would anyone reading your posts assume you never saw this forum before, or any of those type of threads?:confused:

So I will take you at your word, you aren’t just bashing to hate tools for non-rich people, or tools that weren't sold by your union, and that you had worse luck than anyone else I ever met.
Heck, statistically it's possible. But with that luck, don’t buy any lottery tickets, for your own sake.:bounce:

Here's the real painful part. I have seen re-label tools on the tool trucks that look soo much like tools I have seen at Harbor Freight and Northern tool, that they are unmistakably identical. I pulled out a set of 1/2 inch drive torx bit/e-torx sockets and paired them up with the "Cornwell" ones on the truck. Except for the Cornwell vs. Northern stamp they were identical. The Northern ones were 12.00 bucks on sale, and the Cornwell ones were 168.00, both made in Taiwan, but work aok, I've never had a problem with the 12 buck Northern tool ones LOL, and I have impacted them. The only difference was the big price.:headscrat I told my Cornwell dealer I would not pay Cornwell prices for practically the same thing. I told him I was aware they could be good tools made in Taiwan, but I already had some good ones I paid 12.00 bucks for so I wasn't intertested. Right down to the placement of the S2 stamp, and lettering, finish,etc...they looked the same. TOOL TRUCK BRANDS WILL RUN THEMSELVES OUT OF BUSINESS WITH THIS ****.:headscrat lets see, take a good, cheap Taiwan tool, and put the Cornwell name on it for mega profit, and those dumb techs will buy it! I say they can stick it where the sun don't shine, if that's what they offer...I'll just buy 2 sets of Northern tool/Harbor freight sets at a time, and take my chances,heck the cheap ones even have a warranty if you so desire. Cornwell, Snap-on, Matco, MAC I have a blanket statement for your re-label b.s.:moon::fawk:
 
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