Above 1200 Sq/FT The Lone Beech Garage (60x46x16)

[Motoman1100]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

You must have gotten a good soak out of that storm yesterday. I was in Tyrone and it got ugly quick so I headed for the garage to get my truck inside.

I'm looking forward to stopping by and checking the progress. I'll bring the beverage so we won't be empty handed as we tour.

 

[sbosecker]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

You must have gotten a good soak out of that storm yesterday. I was in Tyrone and it got ugly quick so I headed for the garage to get my truck inside.

I'm looking forward to stopping by and checking the progress. I'll bring the beverage so we won't be empty handed as we tour.

Alan,

I won't call the weatherman a liar because some moisture did fall from the sky but he could be convicted of fraud as a result of what we got ...or rather didn't get.

It was thundering and lightning to beat the band but we got no measureable rain at my house. We did get just enough to dampen the concrete and very little came out of the gutter's downspouts.

I watched with amazement as the Internet provided radar depictions of the weather that showed red blobs moving slowly towards us. Then the blobs would turn green and break up and disappear just about the time they were over us. This happened repeatedly.

You are welcome to visit any time!

Best regards,

Scott

 

[sbosecker]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

Wednesday - July 20, 2016

Last night, despite a high percentage chance of rainfall and the constant rumble and flashing associated with thunderstorms, we got no measureable rain.




So this morning, at a little after 7 am, I began the 2-hour ritual of watering the newly seeded areas around the building. We are getting something starting to look like a lawn in places.


Since it hadn't rained last night, access to the basement was possible. As a bonus, my son was available to help move a stationary tool. I decided the first to make the migration would be the Powematic Model 208 20-inch Thickness Planer.










The move took a total of about 2 hours but was done without any drama or excitement. I need to reassemble a few items that were removed for the transit but it was good to get this monster into the Lone Beech Garage's Woodshop.


Scott

 

[jbmatth]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

First off congratulations on the inspection. Secondly, holly cow that is one heck of a planer.
JB

 

[Motoman1100]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

I watched with amazement as the Internet provided radar depictions of the weather that showed red blobs moving slowly towards us. Then the blobs would turn green and break up and disappear just about the time they were over us. This happened repeatedly.

You are welcome to visit any time!

Best regards,

Scott

You know what it is? I think that garage is sooo big that it's affecting the weather patterns in PTC! Ha!

 

[LutzTD]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

Wednesday - July 20, 2016

Last night, despite a high percentage chance of rainfall and the constant rumble and flashing associated with thunderstorms, we got no measureable rain.




So this morning, at a little after 7 am, I began the 2-hour ritual of watering the newly seeded areas around the building. We are getting something starting to look like a lawn in places.


Since it hadn't rained last night, access to the basement was possible. As a bonus, my son was available to help move a stationary tool. I decided the first to make the migration would be the Powematic Model 208 20-inch Thickness Planer.










The move took a total of about 2 hours but was done without any drama or excitement. I need to reassemble a few items that were removed for the transit but it was good to get this monster into the Lone Beech Garage's Woodshop.


Scott

looking good. if you have a lot of big machinery to move you might want to look at a forklift rental. a lot faster and safer than hoisting heavy stuff in the air while you are standing next to it.

 

[sbosecker]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

First off congratulations on the inspection. Secondly, holly cow that is one heck of a planer.
JB

JB,

Thanks for the congrats!

The planer was a Craigslist acquisition from a couple of years ago. When I got it, it had sat for a while and it needs some tweaking (at least). I haven't used it to turn lumber into useable planks yet as I still have my ancient, but reliable, Makita 2040 15-inch planer for that sort of thing.

Best regards,

Scott

 

[drivesitfar]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

SB: so speaking of AUGUSTA have you had a chance to walk the fairways during the Masters yet? i was hoping to qualify and play in one, but didn't so would really like to watch one live and in person and eat some of the cheap good food instead of watching on TV. if you happen to find a pair of Masters tickets you can't use that are not priced like a vintage car i'd be interested.

great to see your planer and some more of your stuff moving into the shop. i bet it will be a FLAT JOY working in the new space you created.

on the plus side flash flood type rains have washed out many great HYDROSEED projects so watering by hand or with area sprinklers isn't the worst case scenario.

good luck and keep up the great progress

 

[sbosecker]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

You know what it is? I think that garage is sooo big that it's affecting the weather patterns in PTC! Ha!

Alan,

Do you think we should issue a NOTAM?

Ha!

Scott

 

[sbosecker]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

looking good. if you have a lot of big machinery to move you might want to look at a forklift rental. a lot faster and safer than hoisting heavy stuff in the air while you are standing next to it.

LutzTD,

Thanks!

Your points regarding machinery moving are well taken, but...





The entrance to my basement garage is located where the arrow is pointing.

Although I plan to rectify this situation in the future, at the moment there is no driveway to the basement garage. I have to drive over the yard to get there. This requires transiting some drainage swales and there are also rough transitions from yard to new driveway. I'd probably be OK using a tractor with front end loader but a forklift might have issues with the terrain.

It's challenging but I approach the moving of these tools with caution. I got them into the basement garage the same way I'm removing them so hopefully my cautious methodology will continue to work.

Thanks for your thoughtful post!

Best regards,

Scott

 

[sbosecker]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

SB: so speaking of AUGUSTA have you had a chance to walk the fairways during the Masters yet? i was hoping to qualify and play in one, but didn't so would really like to watch one live and in person and eat some of the cheap good food instead of watching on TV. if you happen to find a pair of Masters tickets you can't use that are not priced like a vintage car i'd be interested.

great to see your planer and some more of your stuff moving into the shop. i bet it will be a FLAT JOY working in the new space you created.

on the plus side flash flood type rains have washed out many great HYDROSEED projects so watering by hand or with area sprinklers isn't the worst case scenario.

good luck and keep up the great progress

DrivesItFar,

I'm not a golfer but I'm not so tone deaf as to not appreciate what the Masters and Augusta are to golf.

I have not been to those hallowed grounds at any time so I can't speak to what it is like to be there. I'm also pretty sure that tickets to same are unobtanium for mere mortals like myself. Rest assured should I find a couple of tickets blowing around the yard, you'll be the first guy I contact.

Ha!

I'm spending about 4 hours of the day just on the watering project so - with my son working during the day - there isn't a lot of extra time to move stuff. The watering requirements should diminish a bit in the near future and maybe now we could tolerate a (small) downpour without it destroying what has been accomplished this past 8 days.

Thanks again!

Best regards,

Scott

 

[sbosecker]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

Sunday - July 24, 2016

Every day for the past week and a half has been "Groundhog Day". I get up and spend a couple of hours watering the grass. In the evening or afternoon I repeated the process.

The past couple of days I dialed down the watering to just in the morning. That worked OK yesterday as we had a high layer of clouds that reduced the sun's direct radiant energy from impacting the grass too much. Today, however, it was clear and hot. While the established areas took the sun in stride, some of the thinner spots looked like they were a bit stressed. I would have spot watered them but...





I had been measuring the new grass and it was getting high enough that it needed to be cut. I brought my Honda 2013 Lawn Tractor into the Lone Beech Garage and positioned it over the Tornado Shelter. Some quick work with a pneumatic tool & the Baldor Pedestal Grinder and the blades were removed and sharpened to a fine edge. I then mowed the new grass for the first time.






Since I had just sharpened the blades of the mower, I was particularly happy when I found the old Copper Ground Rod for the Temporary Electrical Service by running over it with the Lawnmower. I would have thought that would have been removed...





Does anyone else think there should be a bounty on these things! These White Tail Deer (a buck, a doe and 3 fawns) were at the Sunday brunch this morning and returned for the dinner buffet this evening. Hopefully they won't do too much damage to my new yard.



I'm hoping to move a few things into the new building tomorrow.


Scott

 

[shortykorte]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

Wow, the grass took off. Didn't expect it to be this full and ready to cut. Looks like your ground hog tendencies paid off. Around here the buck would be dinner come hunting season.

 

[LutzTD]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

LutzTD,

Thanks!

Your points regarding machinery moving are well taken, but...





The entrance to my basement garage is located where the arrow is pointing.

Although I plan to rectify this situation in the future, at the moment there is no driveway to the basement garage. I have to drive over the yard to get there. This requires transiting some drainage swales and there are also rough transitions from yard to new driveway. I'd probably be OK using a tractor with front end loader but a forklift might have issues with the terrain.

It's challenging but I approach the moving of these tools with caution. I got them into the basement garage the same way I'm removing them so hopefully my cautious methodology will continue to work.

Thanks for your thoughtful post!

Best regards,

Scott

I wasnt sure if you have a lot to move, but if you do dont give up too quick. Look up "telehandler". We rented a small one for my roof raising. it fit through the 8x8 door and could go anywhere carrying 6000lbs here it is

 

[matt_i]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

If you have a trailer you can back into your basement, I'd consider setting up a temporary gantry (could be wood-framed) and assisted by basement framing in order to use a chainfall and hoist up to back the trailer under. For example when I lived in GA I slid a 4" I-beam on top of the double top plates of one framed and one concrete wall, parallel to the floor joists. It worked very very well. One of your tractors could presumably be used to be pull the trailer.

I think I recall that you also have an I-beam in the Lone Beech Garage, so that would be a perfect place to identically copy the setup.

I've moved several machines early-on with an engine hoist and its always a lot more work, almost unstable and never has as much reach as you want. Not sure if you have the volume of machinery to justify a setup as above, but would go much faster in my experience.

 

[HemiRamOn22s]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

The grass is looking nice!

 

[Caparris]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

Grass is indeed looking nice! I was not expecting it to be anywhere near that point yet

 

[drivesitfar]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

SB: grass might not look like Augusta yet, but you are making great progress. looking good so far and do you have a bag of sand and seed to fill in a few holes? not sure what you can do to keep the birds and furry friends from eating the seed, but golf courses seem to manage so there must be a way.

We all have our versions of those furry friends or not so much friends in our lives. we have raccoons, possums, coyotes, rats, mice and the list goes on. the real PITA critters this year for us is ants and OMG do we have a few trying to get in our house.

i hope moving the rest of the shop equipment goes pretty smoothly without any incidents. in case you might want to have the machines so you can move them against the walls when not in use have you thought or are you putting them on pallets to move around with a pallet jack or fork lift?

looks great

keep a lookout for Master's tickets flying around in the wind.

i heard the prices for them just doubled for the members from $125 for the week to $250 or something like that with $2 sandwiches and strawberry shortcakes so i'm looking forward to the food almost as much as the golf

 

[Motoman1100]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

Amazing how quickly that grass grew.

 

[sbosecker]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

Wow, the grass took off. Didn't expect it to be this full and ready to cut. Looks like your ground hog tendencies paid off. Around here the buck would be dinner come hunting season.

The grass is looking nice!

Grass is indeed looking nice! I was not expecting it to be anywhere near that point yet

Amazing how quickly that grass grew.

Thanks guys...

Grass seed on warm soil with plenty of water and it will pop! I have to say I'm surprised it's grown as fast as it has as well. There's some bare places but we'll keep working on those as summer goes on.

Best regards,

Scott

 

[sbosecker]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

I wasnt sure if you have a lot to move, but if you do dont give up too quick. Look up "telehandler". We rented a small one for my roof raising. it fit through the 8x8 door and could go anywhere carrying 6000lbs here it is

If you have a trailer you can back into your basement, I'd consider setting up a temporary gantry (could be wood-framed) and assisted by basement framing in order to use a chainfall and hoist up to back the trailer under. For example when I lived in GA I slid a 4" I-beam on top of the double top plates of one framed and one concrete wall, parallel to the floor joists. It worked very very well. One of your tractors could presumably be used to be pull the trailer.

I think I recall that you also have an I-beam in the Lone Beech Garage, so that would be a perfect place to identically copy the setup.

I've moved several machines early-on with an engine hoist and its always a lot more work, almost unstable and never has as much reach as you want. Not sure if you have the volume of machinery to justify a setup as above, but would go much faster in my experience.

Thanks for the suggestions guys!

One of the big drivers on when I move the machinery is the availability of my son to assist. That availability tends to become known on somewhat short notice so renting equipment is a bit problematic.

The engine hoist does have limitations - that is noted. However, with some thought, I usually can get it to do what I need it to.

I've still got one more pretty large tool (Delta UniSaw) that I have to move. I'm hoping I'll be able to deal with it without having to rent anything but we'll see.

Best regards,

Scott

 

[1/2 Cup]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

Scott, your grass is looking great.

Pity about the ground rod, I would hate that.

Regards

 

[sbosecker]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

SB: grass might not look like Augusta yet, but you are making great progress. looking good so far and do you have a bag of sand and seed to fill in a few holes? not sure what you can do to keep the birds and furry friends from eating the seed, but golf courses seem to manage so there must be a way.

We all have our versions of those furry friends or not so much friends in our lives. we have raccoons, possums, coyotes, rats, mice and the list goes on. the real PITA critters this year for us is ants and OMG do we have a few trying to get in our house.

i hope moving the rest of the shop equipment goes pretty smoothly without any incidents. in case you might want to have the machines so you can move them against the walls when not in use have you thought or are you putting them on pallets to move around with a pallet jack or fork lift?

looks great

keep a lookout for Master's tickets flying around in the wind.

i heard the prices for them just doubled for the members from $125 for the week to $250 or something like that with $2 sandwiches and strawberry shortcakes so i'm looking forward to the food almost as much as the golf

DrivesItFar,

I'm sure I'll be dealing with some irregularities in the ground at some point. My main concern at this time was getting some ground cover established to prevent erosion or undermining of the sloping half-circle driveway.

I've got a stationary tool layout in mind so I'll try locating things that way and then see if the layout needs to be modified.

Thanks for the kind words!

Best regards,

Scott

 

[sbosecker]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

Monday - July 25, 2016

Another morning, another couple hours of watering the grass. After that it was a series of non-garage related chores.

I had arranged with my son to be my helper in moving another stationary tool today. We decided to wait until after the heat of the day to attempt the move.






My Powermatic Model 45 Wood Lathe was only a few feet from the garage door to the exterior of the house but there was a lot of stuff between the lathe and a direct path to the garage door. The plan was to put the lathe on dollies and run it down a hallway to the middle of the house and then make a U-turn and take a clear path to the garage door.






Once again my Aluma 7712H Utility Trailer and the Shop Crane were the weapons of choice to get this stationary tool from the house's basement to the Lone Beech Garage.






With the Lathe on the trailer, we "walked" the 400-pounder forward on the bed. It's a top heavy rascal so we used a couple of straps to minimize any rolling that might occur as we traversed the back yard.


Continued in next post...

 

[sbosecker]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

Continued...





We had moved the tractors out of the Lone Beech Garage to allow access to the Drive Through Bay ...and the Electric Chain Hoist!






The trailer with its cargo was moved into position under the Chain Hoist.






We had several style point deductions from the presiding judges but we got the lathe onto some dollies safely. It was great to use the Electric Chain Hoist and the Yellow Beam as a tool system for the first time. At this time it's a temporary electric hookup but it worked well! I'm looking forward to getting the Festoon Cable in place and a finished electrical hookup.






We rolled the the Wood Lathe into its new home!

Scott

 

[sbosecker]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

Scott, your grass is looking great.

Pity about the ground rod, I would hate that.

Regards

1/2 Cup,

Thanks! Some rain would be helpful.

I've been trying to get that Ground Rod out and that's going to be a project. It is REALLY in there (probably why it became the issue it did for my lawnmower). I'm trying to figure out what I can "grab" it with.

Best regards,

Scott

 

[jbmatth]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

Great job on the grass, and bummer on the ground rod. The last time I sharpened my blades it was after missing a couple weeks of mowing because of travel. The farmer mowed once with his tractor on the easy to manouver area, but with the rain the grass was still over a foot tall. I found a grease gun he dropped with my freshly sharpened blades. Yep I know your pain!
JB

 

[sbosecker]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

Great job on the grass, and bummer on the ground rod. The last time I sharpened my blades it was after missing a couple weeks of mowing because of travel. The farmer mowed once with his tractor on the easy to manouver area, but with the rain the grass was still over a foot tall. I found a grease gun he dropped with my freshly sharpened blades. Yep I know your pain!
JB

JB,

Thanks!

A grease gun...

While I'm sure you weren't happy about that at least you could remove it from the area so you didn't hit it again.

I'm still trying to figure out how I'm going to get that ground rod out. Right now the leading candidate is dragging the shop crane out there and giving that a try.

I thought about trying to get one of my tractors above it and use the hydraulics to pull it out . The problem is that the ground rod is located in a place that would be difficult/dangerous to get the tractor in place to do the work.

My new blades should arrive tomorrow.

Best regards,

Scott

 

[Bib Overalls]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

"Festoon Cable." That one drove me to Google search. My late uncle was a well educated self reliant man. A physician, he was just as comfortable in his shop tinkering as he was doing surgery. He insisted on using the right name or nomenclature for every tool or work piece no matter how obscure. Most of the time no one knew what he was talking about.

 

[LutzTD]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

JB,

Thanks!

A grease gun...

While I'm sure you weren't happy about that at least you could remove it from the area so you didn't hit it again.

I'm still trying to figure out how I'm going to get that ground rod out. Right now the leading candidate is dragging the shop crane out there and giving that a try.

I thought about trying to get one of my tractors above it and use the hydraulics to pull it out . The problem is that the ground rod is located in a place that would be difficult/dangerous to get the tractor in place to do the work.

My new blades should arrive tomorrow.

Best regards,

Scott

maybe try putting your engine hoist in the back of your trailer and haul it out over the rod and hoist it out? or maybe just a short 4x4 fulcrum and a long 4x4 lever with a strap if your feeling strong you can inch it out manually.

 

[sbosecker]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

maybe try putting your engine hoist in the back of your trailer and haul it out over the rod and hoist it out? or maybe just a short 4x4 fulcrum and a long 4x4 lever with a strap if your feeling strong you can inch it out manually.

LutzTD,

Whatever approach I take, it will probably be next week before I get to take a crack at it. I've got to fly to Venice, Italy with a check airman Thursday night so tomorrow - after the mandatory grass irrigation - I'll be reviewing minutia in preparation for that. Every 2 years a Captain has to do this. I'm scheduled to get back Saturday afternoon.

Best regards,

Scott

 

[Lotusnut]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

LutzTD,

Whatever approach I take, it will probably be next week before I get to take a crack at it.

Scott
Take a long chain and wrap it about 3 times around the rod and hook it back to the chain. Get it as tight as you can but it does not have to be overly tight. Take about a 3 to 4 foot post that woun't bow and place it upright on a something flat to spread the load and keep it from being forced into the ground. The base of the pole should be about 2 feet away from the rod in the direction you want to pull from. Hitch the other end of the chain to your truck. With the chain going from the rod up over the top of the post and on to your truck, lean the post so the top of the post with the chain going over it is right above the rod and the chain is vertical. Drive slowly away to snug the chain up and then very slowly pull the rod out. You may have to reposition a few times but it will walk the rod right out.

If you have access to a tow truck with the old style boom that is even easier.

Hope this helps. Pulled many posts out this way when they are set in concrete and it works every time.

Rob

 

[jbmatth]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

I meant to also type some advise on how to pull the ground rod. I thing Lotusnut has about the best idea I've ever heard though, and haven't heard of that one before using a truck. I've just wrapped it with chain as he discribed and used a 4x4 or similar post to pry it up. If you have a handyman/high lift jack that works pretty well too.
JB

 

[sbosecker]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

Scott
Take a long chain and wrap it about 3 times around the rod and hook it back to the chain. Get it as tight as you can but it does not have to be overly tight. Take about a 3 to 4 foot post that woun't bow and place it upright on a something flat to spread the load and keep it from being forced into the ground. The base of the pole should be about 2 feet away from the rod in the direction you want to pull from. Hitch the other end of the chain to your truck. With the chain going from the rod up over the top of the post and on to your truck, lean the post so the top of the post with the chain going over it is right above the rod and the chain is vertical. Drive slowly away to snug the chain up and then very slowly pull the rod out. You may have to reposition a few times but it will walk the rod right out.

If you have access to a tow truck with the old style boom that is even easier.

Hope this helps. Pulled many posts out this way when they are set in concrete and it works every time.

Rob

I meant to also type some advise on how to pull the ground rod. I thing Lotusnut has about the best idea I've ever heard though, and haven't heard of that one before using a truck. I've just wrapped it with chain as he discribed and used a 4x4 or similar post to pry it up. If you have a handyman/high lift jack that works pretty well too.
JB

Rob & JB,

Thanks guys!

I had thought about the chain and a post as JB described but I can visualize Rob's suggestion and I think that sounds really good.

What I really like about Rob's plan is that I think I have all the components to make it happen. The only question is if my chain is long enough.

Best regards,

Scott

 

[1949 caddyman]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

You could cut the ground rod off well below ground level & back fill.

 

[Motoman1100]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

Hey Scott,

What kind of grass was in that hydroseed mixture?

 

[Lotusnut]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

Rob & JB,

Thanks guys!

I had thought about the chain and a post as JB described but I can visualize Rob's suggestion and I think that sounds really good.

What I really like about Rob's plan is that I think I have all the components to make it happen. The only question is if my chain is long enough.

Scott

The key is to have the chain at the rod end and to keep the post almost vertical. The leverage multiplier is large and you are probably pulling at least 4000 pounds with the truck so the rod is seeing significantly more than 10,000 pounds straight up. You will have to reset the post about every 6 inches the rod comes out of the ground. Just go slow and I will be surprised if it can resist that much pull, speed is not needed with that much leverage.

Rob

 

[sbosecker]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

You could cut the ground rod off well below ground level & back fill.

1949 caddyman,

This is the "ultimate solution" should I not be able to pull it out. I hate leaving something like that for someone else to deal with at some future time so I'm going to try to get it out.

Best regards,

Scott

 

[sbosecker]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

Hey Scott,

What kind of grass was in that hydroseed mixture?

Alan,

The Hydroseed Man said the Bermuda seed was called "Majestic".

Best regards,

Scott

 

[sbosecker]

Re: The Lone Beech Garage Build Thread (60x46)

Scott

The key is to have the chain at the rod end and to keep the post almost vertical. The leverage multiplier is large and you are probably pulling at least 4000 pounds with the truck so the rod is seeing significantly more than 10,000 pounds straight up. You will have to reset the post about every 6 inches the rod comes out of the ground. Just go slow and I will be surprised if it can resist that much pull, speed is not needed with that much leverage.

Rob

Rob,

It looks like I should have enough chain and I agree that this solution should work. We'll see next week.

Best regards,

Scott