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Thanks for the tip. I have Edelmann wrenches and a very cool flaring kit, but I don't think of them as E.E. & Co.
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Tom, moving this here so as not to derail the Duro-Indestro thread.
The Bonney and the -D-I- 31/32" sockets you have are very, very late for this size - which does indeed correspond to the old U.S.S. 9/16" nuts and bolts. (The 25/32" and 19/32" sockets sometimes seen in vintage sets corresponded to 7/16" U.S.S. and 5/16" U.S.S., respectively, and are also oddballs, but it's always the 31/32" that captivates our attention.) I am very impressed that you have them. Especially because they're from the hot-forged / hot-broached era.
It got me thinking, and hunting and gathering.
I eliminated all my pressed steel sockets. I also eliminated cast malleable iron sockets. All of those have a 31/32" socket in the set, of course, but that's a different case. They weren't made to correspond to old U.S.S. sizes, they were routinely made in 32/nd steps from 3/32" to 1-9/32".
Here's the group I have. Note that ALL of these, while hot-forged, are cold-broached and/or machined, and much older than your Bonney and -D-I-.
- The male drive tang is Eastern Machine Screw, ca. 1921
- The one at the top of the next "column" with only a smidge of copper finish showing is Bethlehem Steel Spark Plug Company
- The Mossberg is from a ca. 1929 set, their very late and short-lived foray into hot-forged drive tools, just before they joined with APCO
- The "RAY" socket is from a late 1920's Packer Auto set
- You'll recognize the Walden-Worcester and the Hinsdale
- And to the right of those, a Snap-on (three date codes - 1929, 1930, and 1931!) and another Hinsdale
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Jumping back to the multi-wrench I found at the flea market yesterday, thanks to @four.cycle, I now have this 1917 Edelmann ad that confirms his ID of the OEM as Edelmann, confirms my tool by name, composition, and model number, and also my initial hunches about the wrench. At the risk of breaking my own arm patting myself on the back, the ad is even showing the Edelmann tool with the Ford hub cap wrench I pulled off my Mossberg board for the photo!
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^ looks like they started making all kinds of stuff. there's one of their spotlights (shown in that ad) on ebay right now.
d42jeep
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They made this timing light although they were in a different Chicago location by then.
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Yeah, I had no idea E. Edelmann & Co. were so diverse. There's not much of it here on GJ, which might explain why there's no thread. Don's timing light with original literature has been posted on the 'Ephemera' thread before. I posted my unusual flaring tool on the 'Refrigeration' thread, linked here, and a pressed steel DOE wrench, with graduations by /8ths for a 3" rule stamped in it, posted on the 'Auto-Kit' thread, linked here. And @leg17 has posted a to-die-for tappet wrench set, in original pouch, in the 'Tappet Wrenches' thread, linked here, where he also mentions that they're still in business with Plews. Other than those items - and now this No. 21, and of course your entry in the A-Z Mfgrs Index, I don't see anything else in a search by name.
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Curator's Corner #10: Masonry Pins
The Acquisitions Dept was pawing around in a bucket of rusty tools at the flea on Sunday - dozens of long iron chisels and funny looking caulkers and things like that that looked like they were buried or left out in the rain for years, when he pulled out a weird wedge. He thought it was a drift pin at first, but it was too thin, and notched. When he asked permission from the vendor to dump the whole bucket out on the adjacent vacant table, he found a few more.
Everything was coated in rust, but he could read some of the markings. The seller didn't know what they were and neither did he or his pal Joe, one of the rusty tool vultures who descended on the table, but he guessed, correctly, that they were bricklayer's line pins, for keeping foundations and walls straight, level, and square. They are pointy and thin for inserting into fresh mortar between bricks or blocks, wrapping a string around them, and stretching.
They cleaned up nicely, providing the topic for one of our most unexpected and enjoyable Curator's Corners.
Based on some research, we think they're all vintage, and some of them at least as old as the rusty tools. The Curator is not sure what he's going to do with them, but we're intrigued with the advertising, especially those "Nazareth Mortar" and "Atlas Mortar Cement" pins.
Page 1 of this thread is Jersey Shore proud, but we were born and raised in Carbon county, PA, at the foot of one of the Blue Ridge Mountains, near the Lehigh gap, just north of Allentown, and there is plenty of content on this thread and others here on the Vintage Tools Discussion board about our old stomping grounds, including this map.
See that open area between Palmerton and Allentown, and between 476 (the Northeast Extension of the PA Turnpike) to the west and Rt 33 to the east? That area, northern Lehigh county, was world-famous for its Portland (invented and namesaked in England) cement.
Quarries and cement mills dotted the entire area, their large, complex pulverizers and kilns rising up and spreading dust for miles around were some of the landmarks of our youth. Whitehall, Egypt, Northampton (home of two Atlas Portland Cement Company plants), Bath, Cementon (originally, the town of Siegfried's Ferry), and Nazareth were the epicenter of cement production in the entire U.S. before 1900 and for many years after due to geology and one smart, shrewd dude named Saylor. In fact, the very first Portland cement plant in the U.S. was his, the Coplay (pronounced Kah-plea) Cement Company in Coplay, PA. In its heyday, well up through WWII, thirteen plants producing nearly half of all Portland cement made in the U.S. were operating in that part of Lehigh county. The other half of US production was being produced in New York (that "Century" pin is from Rochester), between Buffalo and Syracuse, and a few smaller plants in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Utah, California, Arkansas, S.D., and Texas.
Much has changed since then, and that Lone Star Cement pin came a long way to get here! Today there are 100+ mills in 34 states, and, according to Wiki, Pennsylvania is not even in the top 5: "In 2013, the five leading cement-producing states, in descending order, were: Texas, California, Missouri, Florida, and Alabama."
Further Reading:
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The Acquisitions Dept was pawing around in a bucket of rusty tools at the flea on Sunday - dozens of long iron chisels and funny looking caulkers and things like that that looked like they were buried or left out in the rain for years, when he pulled out a weird wedge. He thought it was a drift pin at first, but it was too thin, and notched. When he asked permission from the vendor to dump the whole bucket out on the adjacent vacant table, he found a few more.
Everything was coated in rust, but he could read some of the markings. The seller didn't know what they were and neither did he or his pal Joe, one of the rusty tool vultures who descended on the table, but he guessed, correctly, that they were bricklayer's line pins, for keeping foundations and walls straight, level, and square. They are pointy and thin for inserting into fresh mortar between bricks or blocks, wrapping a string around them, and stretching.
They cleaned up nicely, providing the topic for one of our most unexpected and enjoyable Curator's Corners.
Based on some research, we think they're all vintage, and some of them at least as old as the rusty tools. The Curator is not sure what he's going to do with them, but we're intrigued with the advertising, especially those "Nazareth Mortar" and "Atlas Mortar Cement" pins.
Page 1 of this thread is Jersey Shore proud, but we were born and raised in Carbon county, PA, at the foot of one of the Blue Ridge Mountains, near the Lehigh gap, just north of Allentown, and there is plenty of content on this thread and others here on the Vintage Tools Discussion board about our old stomping grounds, including this map.
See that open area between Palmerton and Allentown, and between 476 (the Northeast Extension of the PA Turnpike) to the west and Rt 33 to the east? That area, northern Lehigh county, was world-famous for its Portland (invented and namesaked in England) cement.
Quarries and cement mills dotted the entire area, their large, complex pulverizers and kilns rising up and spreading dust for miles around were some of the landmarks of our youth. Whitehall, Egypt, Northampton (home of two Atlas Portland Cement Company plants), Bath, Cementon (originally, the town of Siegfried's Ferry), and Nazareth were the epicenter of cement production in the entire U.S. before 1900 and for many years after due to geology and one smart, shrewd dude named Saylor. In fact, the very first Portland cement plant in the U.S. was his, the Coplay (pronounced Kah-plea) Cement Company in Coplay, PA. In its heyday, well up through WWII, thirteen plants producing nearly half of all Portland cement made in the U.S. were operating in that part of Lehigh county. The other half of US production was being produced in New York (that "Century" pin is from Rochester), between Buffalo and Syracuse, and a few smaller plants in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Utah, California, Arkansas, S.D., and Texas.
Much has changed since then, and that Lone Star Cement pin came a long way to get here! Today there are 100+ mills in 34 states, and, according to Wiki, Pennsylvania is not even in the top 5: "In 2013, the five leading cement-producing states, in descending order, were: Texas, California, Missouri, Florida, and Alabama."
Further Reading:
History of the Portland Cement Industry in the United States
books.google.com
The Lehigh Valley Cement Industry
America's portland cement industry began in the Lehigh Valley. The rich deposit of limestone known as the Jacksonburg Formation arcs through the valley from Berks County, Pennsylvania, to Warren County, New Jersey, and today it still provides the raw material for the Lehigh district's famous...
books.google.com
Cement industry in the United States - Wikipedia
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Those are a nice, and interesting, little collection. I've seen plenty of Masonry Pins, but not ones with cement maker's names on them.Curator's Corner #10: Masonry Pins
The Acquisitions Dept was pawing around in a bucket of rusty tools at the flea on Sunday - dozens of long iron chisels and funny looking caulkers and things like that that looked like they were buried or left out in the rain for years, when he pulled out a weird wedge. He thought it was a drift pin at first, but it was too thin, and notched. When he asked permission from the vendor to dump the whole bucket out on the adjacent vacant table, he found a few more.
Everything was coated in rust, but he could read some of the markings. The seller didn't know what they were and neither did he or his pal Joe, one of the rusty tool vultures who descended on the table, but he guessed, correctly, that they were bricklayer's line pins, for keeping foundations and walls straight, level, and square. They are pointy and thin for inserting into fresh mortar between bricks or blocks, wrapping a string around them, and stretching.
They cleaned up nicely, providing the topic for one of our most unexpected and enjoyable Curator's Corners.
Based on some research, we think they're all vintage, and some of them at least as old as the rusty tools. The Curator is not sure what he's going to do with them, but we're intrigued with the advertising, especially those "Nazareth Mortar" and "Atlas Mortar Cement" pins.
Page 1 of this thread is Jersey Shore proud, but we were born and raised in Carbon county, PA, at the foot of one of the Blue Ridge Mountains, near the Lehigh gap, just north of Allentown, and there is plenty of content on this thread and others here on the Vintage Tools Discussion board about our old stomping grounds, including this map.
See that open area between Palmerton and Allentown, and between 476 (the Northeast Extension of the PA Turnpike) to the west and Rt 33 to the east? That area, northern Lehigh county, was world-famous for its Portland (invented and namesaked in England) cement.
Quarries and cement mills dotted the entire area, their large, complex pulverizers and kilns rising up and spreading dust for miles around were some of the landmarks of our youth. Whitehall, Egypt, Northampton (home of two Atlas Portland Cement Company plants), Bath, Cementon (originally, the town of Siegfried's Ferry), and Nazareth were the epicenter of cement production in the entire U.S. before 1900 and for many years after due to geology and one smart, shrewd dude named Saylor. In fact, the very first Portland cement plant in the U.S. was his, the Coplay (pronounced Kah-plea) Cement Company in Coplay, PA. In its heyday, well up through WWII, thirteen plants producing nearly half of all Portland cement made in the U.S. were operating in that part of Lehigh county. The other half of US production was being produced in New York (that "Century" pin is from Rochester), between Buffalo and Syracuse, and a few smaller plants in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Utah, California, Arkansas, S.D., and Texas.
Much has changed since then, and that Lone Star Cement pin came a long way to get here! Today there are 100+ mills in 34 states, and, according to Wiki, Pennsylvania is not even in the top 5: "In 2013, the five leading cement-producing states, in descending order, were: Texas, California, Missouri, Florida, and Alabama."
Further Reading:
History of the Portland Cement Industry in the United States
books.google.comThe Lehigh Valley Cement Industry
America's portland cement industry began in the Lehigh Valley. The rich deposit of limestone known as the Jacksonburg Formation arcs through the valley from Berks County, Pennsylvania, to Warren County, New Jersey, and today it still provides the raw material for the Lehigh district's famous...books.google.comCement industry in the United States - Wikipedia
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Yup. They still make the pins, sans names. The advertising was the attraction. The catalogs from these early cement companies, in the late 1800's and the early 1900's, are very interesting in that they all provide photographs of grand and famous buildings constructed here in the US with their cement. And, of course, no history of cement is complete without a mention and photograph of Smeaton's Eddystone Lighthouse!
Outlawmws
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Very cool finds by the acquisitions department!
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We're still not sure what this is (it's bronze, the opening is threaded, and it appears to be a handle of some kind...), but there is no better place to put it than here. Long time followers may recall that the Lugzsonian is located down the shore, in Fair Haven, on a peninsula, right along the Navesink river, a navigable tidal estuary, near Red Bank, which is mentioned in one of the articles below. Reposting the postcard map from post #1.
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It's the door handle to the barge's bridge.
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That would be cool.
RTM
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Or a small hatch door handle. Barely hand sized here
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The Acquisitions Dept may have flashed his intuition a couple days ago snagging this Sunnto field compass with original leather wrist and equipment strap at the flea..
...but the Curator is not yet quite fully convinced it's the famed Finnish Army WWII issue M-34 he was hoping for.
This one has some of the right markings, such as the Suunto Helsinki branding in the upper right corner. (That "O/y" marking is apparently the Finnish version of "Ltd.")
But it's missing several other markings that examples that multiple compass collector sites claim to be WWII M-34's have, such as the "[SA]" stamp in the upper left corner, which stands for "Suomen armeija" (Finnish Army), the letters "(PVT)" stamp in the lower left corner, which means "Puolustusvoimain Taisteluvälineosasto" (for Defence Forces Ordnance Organization), or a S/N in the same place. And some of them have a marking very similar to the US Ordnance Dept bomb in the lower right corner. As seen on the following examples of compasses deemed authentic M-34's by Finnish collectors.
Note also that the bezel on ours is a 360* system, whereas the bezels on the examples above are 60* systems, which we reckon to be a dead giveaway.
This one also has an oddly blank base plate, reminiscent of the ivory celluloid that K&E used on their slide rules.
Whereas the bonafide wartime M-34's have this imprinted on the ivory celluloid like this.
That says: "Patentoitu Suomessa ja ulkomailla" (Patented in Finland and abroad) and the table is basically instructions to convert the 60* bezel to 360*.
We did find one seemingly very knowledgeable collector who says that the "SKOHA" logo on ours, located exactly where the military subcomponent markings and/or S/N's are on the other examples...
...stands for "Suojeluskuntain KauppaOsakeyhtiö Handels Aktiebolag", which translates to Civil Guards Trade Company. These are apparently rare. He insisted that the Civil Guards (roughly akin to Civil Defense, Civil Air Defense and/or National Guard) had their own surplus store, of sorts, which sounds odd to us.
For now we are claiming possible Finnish Army WWII heritage until told otherwise, happy that it looks so handsome, and, best of all, that it still works, even retaining some of the radium glow in the needles and cardinal and bearing markers.
Many iterations of Suunto compasses made for military and commercial sales in the decades that followed were modeled after the famed M-34, and they are considered trusty, prestigious instruments by lumber cruisers, hikers, backpackers, climbers, and adventurers of all stripes.
We are going to tag our backwoodsy PNW friends @Beerhippie, @Provincial, and @four.cycle, who indicated some interest in the Garage Sale thread where it was first reported, and who may want to gaze, admire, reminisce nostalgically, consult Great-Great-Uncles, and or instruct further.
...but the Curator is not yet quite fully convinced it's the famed Finnish Army WWII issue M-34 he was hoping for.
This one has some of the right markings, such as the Suunto Helsinki branding in the upper right corner. (That "O/y" marking is apparently the Finnish version of "Ltd.")
But it's missing several other markings that examples that multiple compass collector sites claim to be WWII M-34's have, such as the "[SA]" stamp in the upper left corner, which stands for "Suomen armeija" (Finnish Army), the letters "(PVT)" stamp in the lower left corner, which means "Puolustusvoimain Taisteluvälineosasto" (for Defence Forces Ordnance Organization), or a S/N in the same place. And some of them have a marking very similar to the US Ordnance Dept bomb in the lower right corner. As seen on the following examples of compasses deemed authentic M-34's by Finnish collectors.
Note also that the bezel on ours is a 360* system, whereas the bezels on the examples above are 60* systems, which we reckon to be a dead giveaway.
This one also has an oddly blank base plate, reminiscent of the ivory celluloid that K&E used on their slide rules.
Whereas the bonafide wartime M-34's have this imprinted on the ivory celluloid like this.
That says: "Patentoitu Suomessa ja ulkomailla" (Patented in Finland and abroad) and the table is basically instructions to convert the 60* bezel to 360*.
We did find one seemingly very knowledgeable collector who says that the "SKOHA" logo on ours, located exactly where the military subcomponent markings and/or S/N's are on the other examples...
...stands for "Suojeluskuntain KauppaOsakeyhtiö Handels Aktiebolag", which translates to Civil Guards Trade Company. These are apparently rare. He insisted that the Civil Guards (roughly akin to Civil Defense, Civil Air Defense and/or National Guard) had their own surplus store, of sorts, which sounds odd to us.
For now we are claiming possible Finnish Army WWII heritage until told otherwise, happy that it looks so handsome, and, best of all, that it still works, even retaining some of the radium glow in the needles and cardinal and bearing markers.
Many iterations of Suunto compasses made for military and commercial sales in the decades that followed were modeled after the famed M-34, and they are considered trusty, prestigious instruments by lumber cruisers, hikers, backpackers, climbers, and adventurers of all stripes.
We are going to tag our backwoodsy PNW friends @Beerhippie, @Provincial, and @four.cycle, who indicated some interest in the Garage Sale thread where it was first reported, and who may want to gaze, admire, reminisce nostalgically, consult Great-Great-Uncles, and or instruct further.
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Now that I've seen the cm scale on the side, that's about half the size of the Suunto staff compasses we used in USFS.
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Which I imagine, at twice the size of this model, were not worn on the wrist!
It really is a handsome compact compass. That leather strap has a couple slits in it for attaching to uniform buttons when not wrapped around the wrist.
The literature on these is interesting from a linguistic standpoint. They were called "marching" compasses, but they use the term differently than we do. It's not a reference to movement in formation, but walking, ranging, in the countryside, as in Volksmarching.
Were the USFS compasses liquid filled? These are. The case is aluminum, if it's not apparent, as is the rotating bezel. Patented in 1935 by Tuomas Vohlonen.
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A very nice compass, and your sense of taste is confirmed by your purchase!
Outlawmws
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Very nice find, and on my watch for list...
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The Lugzsonian conducted a trade with one of its affiliates, the Hole in the Wall, in Albany, Oregon, recently, sending @bmwrd0, its distinguished curator, an antique Blackhawk No. 500 1/2-drive brace, and receiving in return a curiously unbranded (but undoubtedly made by PEXTO) antique No. 6 "Star" brand Steel Screw clamp.
We will get to the clamp, which helps build up our small but growing PEXTO Steel Screw clamp collection, eventually.
First, we want to talk about everything else you see arrayed around it - which were unexpected surprises.
Throw-ins are a GJ trading tradition. But that's a lot of throw-ins! If only to help manage the unrealistic future expectations or disgruntledness of others, we will point out that the various pouches, boxes, and cases were mainly empty and in need of some serious TLC. (Beemer's eyes are probably popping out of his head a little, because the Curator has been hard at work on the Cleaning, De-Rusting and Repair bench.) But, still, that's a lot of throw-ins!
Long-time friends of the Lugzsonian and its mission will also observe that they aren't at all random. Everything is judiciously right down the middle of the Lugzsonian's wheelhouse. The winner of back-to-back Garage Sale Thread Picker of the Year awards needs no commendation from us, but thoughtfulness is the true mark of a good eye and a classy picker in our esteem, thoughtfulness makes possible the one-of-a-kind collections, world-class programming, groundbreaking research, and the unparalleled resources that people associate with the GJ Vintage Board, and these extras demonstrate that Beemer pays attention to more than his own interests.
We look forward to getting to them in more detail one by one.
We will get to the clamp, which helps build up our small but growing PEXTO Steel Screw clamp collection, eventually.
First, we want to talk about everything else you see arrayed around it - which were unexpected surprises.
Throw-ins are a GJ trading tradition. But that's a lot of throw-ins! If only to help manage the unrealistic future expectations or disgruntledness of others, we will point out that the various pouches, boxes, and cases were mainly empty and in need of some serious TLC. (Beemer's eyes are probably popping out of his head a little, because the Curator has been hard at work on the Cleaning, De-Rusting and Repair bench.
) But, still, that's a lot of throw-ins!Long-time friends of the Lugzsonian and its mission will also observe that they aren't at all random. Everything is judiciously right down the middle of the Lugzsonian's wheelhouse. The winner of back-to-back Garage Sale Thread Picker of the Year awards needs no commendation from us, but thoughtfulness is the true mark of a good eye and a classy picker in our esteem, thoughtfulness makes possible the one-of-a-kind collections, world-class programming, groundbreaking research, and the unparalleled resources that people associate with the GJ Vintage Board, and these extras demonstrate that Beemer pays attention to more than his own interests.
We look forward to getting to them in more detail one by one.
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The Acquisitions Dept was rained out this morning, and if only to forestall him moping around grumpy until first pitch (Nats vs Phillies, 1:35 PM), the Curator began cataloguing some of the new arrivals, starting - since our thoughts were on Philadelphia, with the Navy items.
Here at the Lugzsonian we have zero qualms about performing some feat of cleverness, trickiness, and sleight-of-hand, if not some outright magic, when necessary to preserve, restore, or prestorve our specimens for exhibit. As we stood there staring at the remnants of the label on the top of the lid of the metallic wartime Phila. Mfg. Co. USN 1108-1 midget set case, we wished we could transfer it to the denuded lid of the set we already own, but alas, it would take some real defiance of physics.
Still, good to have a case on hand for posterity and potential future reunion with contents, ours or someone else's.
Here at the Lugzsonian we have zero qualms about performing some feat of cleverness, trickiness, and sleight-of-hand, if not some outright magic, when necessary to preserve, restore, or prestorve our specimens for exhibit. As we stood there staring at the remnants of the label on the top of the lid of the metallic wartime Phila. Mfg. Co. USN 1108-1 midget set case, we wished we could transfer it to the denuded lid of the set we already own, but alas, it would take some real defiance of physics.
Still, good to have a case on hand for posterity and potential future reunion with contents, ours or someone else's.
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The USN Medical Dept (technically, "M.D. U.S.N.") medic's kit (technically, "CASE, PINS, SCISSORS & DRESSING FORCEPS")...
...was probably issued to a number of units and applications, but it was neat to discover that it was part of the contents of a ship-board so-called "Pomeroy locker". These battle dressing lockers were located at various easily accessible stations around many ships.
...was probably issued to a number of units and applications, but it was neat to discover that it was part of the contents of a ship-board so-called "Pomeroy locker". These battle dressing lockers were located at various easily accessible stations around many ships.
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The pouch was in great shape. Its only contents - a pair of scissors from Henkel & Son, in Keen, N.H. (verified wartime suppliers), not so much. We can't do anything about some of the pitting, but de-rusting and a re-painting made them proudly presentable.
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Ha, well isn't it funny how answers to mysteries crop up by chance! I was just looking at a strong iron box at a Church, and wondering what what it was originally made for.. It looks exactly like it was a 'Pomeroy Box'.!The USN Medical Dept (technically, "M.D. U.S.N.") medic's kit (technically, "CASE, PINS, SCISSORS & DRESSING FORCEPS")...
...was probably issued to a number of units and applications, but it was neat to discover that it was part of the contents of a ship-board so-called "Pomeroy locker". These battle dressing lockers were located at various easily accessible stations around many ships.
Will have a closer look when I'm inside there next.
Old Radar
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I know before I even mention it that using a Matt Blast made reproduction label is anathema to the overall Lugzsonian vibe, but using some of that "cleverness, trickiness, and sleight-of-hand, if not some outright magic" to make a new label look period correct shouldn't be too blasphemous as long as you're not trying to pass it off as original for monetary gain...
Return fire at will.
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Report back!
Au contraire, mon frere! We prefer to re-create (and then age and distress) labels and decals ourselves, in-house, if we can, though. You must have missed that about our philosophy in the past.
Here are a few examples of our work...
This is precisely the kind of trickery we are referring to.
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The Navy wing with its newest additions...
Old Radar
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So it's an origin issue--in house vs. contract supply. As I said, anathema to the vibe--and the house rules!
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Haha. Fair enough.
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When we think of Parker-Kalon around here in the Lugzsonian, we think of SHUR-GRIP file handles, a good period-, supplier-, and spec-correct choice for the wartime GMTK.
To be honest, we didn't even know they made safety head cap screws and hex keys. Needless to say, we were delighted. We love the fanciful lid and the foldout holder. It came empty, but it didn't stay that way for long!
To be honest, we didn't even know they made safety head cap screws and hex keys. Needless to say, we were delighted. We love the fanciful lid and the foldout holder. It came empty, but it didn't stay that way for long!
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The hex key shelf is need of some extra lighting, so we pulled some out for a group shot.
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We considered this "extra" the nicest gesture, since Crescent folding screwdrivers don't exactly grow on trees. In fact, this is our first.
It's not marked on either side of the shank. Most of them are, although we have spotted a few on the Crescent thread that weren't.
Wethinks Beemer is aware that we have a funny bone for them. Here is the newest addition with the others.
Everyone will recognize the TUFFY's. The "Perfect Handle" on the top is an H.D. Smith Triple Lever. The one on the left is a "Jiffy" made by J.H. Dahl, Hackensack, NJ.
Here's the collection in order of age, from 1911 (Thompson, for H.D. Smith), 1917 (John Johnson, for Crescent), 1918 (Dahl), and 1945 (Bloomfield, for Swallow Airplane).
It's not marked on either side of the shank. Most of them are, although we have spotted a few on the Crescent thread that weren't.
Wethinks Beemer is aware that we have a funny bone for them. Here is the newest addition with the others.
Everyone will recognize the TUFFY's. The "Perfect Handle" on the top is an H.D. Smith Triple Lever. The one on the left is a "Jiffy" made by J.H. Dahl, Hackensack, NJ.
Here's the collection in order of age, from 1911 (Thompson, for H.D. Smith), 1917 (John Johnson, for Crescent), 1918 (Dahl), and 1945 (Bloomfield, for Swallow Airplane).
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Private Lugnutz
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We are saving the last "throw-in", which still needs some work (cleaning and sewing) and jumping to the actual trade item, the No. 6 PEXTO "Star" brand Steel Screw clamp.
As you can see, it's missing quite a few markings compared to its brethren, the Nos. 2-12, 4, and 5, including the 'STEEL SCREW' moniker flanking the size, and the company name, address, and patent info - for the Whitney patents D18,376 (Jun 5, 1888) and 385,983 (Jul 10, 1888) for the frame, on the flip side. The patent for the screw with batwing nut (388,007 (Aug 14, 1888)) is stamped on the batwing nut itself.
We thought it was odd, but we didn't notice before that half of @LesserSon 's collection, linked here in the PEXTO thread, is also like that. Later production, if we had to guess. We aspire to catch up to him (he is missing only the 2-1/2, 10, and 12) and @leg17, whose collection (missing only the 12) is linked here.
We need the Nos. 3, 7, 8, 10, and 12.
As you can see, it's missing quite a few markings compared to its brethren, the Nos. 2-12, 4, and 5, including the 'STEEL SCREW' moniker flanking the size, and the company name, address, and patent info - for the Whitney patents D18,376 (Jun 5, 1888) and 385,983 (Jul 10, 1888) for the frame, on the flip side. The patent for the screw with batwing nut (388,007 (Aug 14, 1888)) is stamped on the batwing nut itself.
We thought it was odd, but we didn't notice before that half of @LesserSon 's collection, linked here in the PEXTO thread, is also like that. Later production, if we had to guess. We aspire to catch up to him (he is missing only the 2-1/2, 10, and 12) and @leg17, whose collection (missing only the 12) is linked here.
We need the Nos. 3, 7, 8, 10, and 12.
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Private Lugnutz
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Last item - a partial interchangeable tools kit in a handsome wallet-sized folding pouch, needed quite a bit of reconditioning and repair, but it is as good as it will ever be for exhibit.
It contains a saw, a screwdriver, a chisel, a file, an awl, and two gimlets. Unfortunately, it's missing the handle, which was probably a pocketknife with wooden scales, and - judging by vintage multi-bits sets of this type, almost always from Germany, probably a tack puller, maybe a spearpoint knife blade, and a tap hammer, believe it or not.
@RTM posted one, also missing its main handle, in the Hollow Handle thread, here, a while ago. And here are a few photos purloined from the big marketplace in the sky to show what the handle probably looked like and how the tools connected.
Not sure of the manufacturer. It's an import. Made in Germany for sure. The pouch itself is stamped "Made in Germany" on the flap.
All the pieces have "Germany" as the COO marking. Two of the pieces are marked "KRIEGHOFF," and we can only hope for some affiliation with the famous gunmaker.
It contains a saw, a screwdriver, a chisel, a file, an awl, and two gimlets. Unfortunately, it's missing the handle, which was probably a pocketknife with wooden scales, and - judging by vintage multi-bits sets of this type, almost always from Germany, probably a tack puller, maybe a spearpoint knife blade, and a tap hammer, believe it or not.
@RTM posted one, also missing its main handle, in the Hollow Handle thread, here, a while ago. And here are a few photos purloined from the big marketplace in the sky to show what the handle probably looked like and how the tools connected.
Not sure of the manufacturer. It's an import. Made in Germany for sure. The pouch itself is stamped "Made in Germany" on the flap.
All the pieces have "Germany" as the COO marking. Two of the pieces are marked "KRIEGHOFF," and we can only hope for some affiliation with the famous gunmaker.
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Private Lugnutz
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The pouch has a name, not Krieghoff, and largely illegible due to it being lightly stamped in similarly lightly textured leatherette. That could be the OEM or the name of the American distributor or retailer. If anyone thinks they can "read" this, please pipe up. Several photos, different light and angles.
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Private Lugnutz
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These tools are much larger and much more substantial than the bits in a typical hollow wooden-handled bits kit, and larger than the bits in the larger versions of those. A photo for scale and comparison.
four.cycle
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@Private Lugnutz - I just posted my "Bonsa" set HERE
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Private Lugnutz
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Cool! We should've figured you'd have one. We love things like this. Part Bond, part MacGyver, part Mister Fix-It, they'd be perfect for camping, the glove box, or the apocalypse!