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Has anyone used any of the hackzawls?
Is the m12 fuel better than the m18?
Any word if they will make a m18 fuel version?
http://m.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-...810129_slid_&gclid=CKTxi9Do0tICFYKKfgodC_8D0Q

Have an m12 fuel. It's wonderful. I will rarely use my sawsall again as I don't do much demo but the hacksaw is better one handed for cutting pipe, tubing, and conduit. Also found it handy to cut off nails that the rough carpenters missed in the roof deck. The shorter stroke and one handed ability slows for finer work or work in places you need one hand to hang on.. Never used the m18.
 

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Wow! The light alone is typically $50 and the 4.0 battery is $120 on its own from CPO, but I'm sure it could be found cheaper elsewhere. I don't need another battery or light at the moment, but $80 for both seems like a steal.

Its is a good deal at and the maybe price get reduced some more on sitewide discount sale. I'm thinking these may be somewhat limited in stock but I dunno :dunno: Looking around CPO seems to be the only place has them at this price.

I did get one of these kits as free promo with a purchase of 2797 combo. I really like the stable base an M18 battery provides for the worklight. I mostly just use a lightweight 1.5ah in it too. It just stands up so much better than the M12 with a compact battery.
 

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I don't hear too much about the new 2890-20

I LOVE the 2890. Perfect size, great sound, loud, rugged, incredible battery life, built in cord wrap, no frills - just works. Awesome radio. Add a $15 Amazon BT receiver and keep it stashed in the compartment and bam, BT radio.
 

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So do most of you DIYers that start out with M12 tools also end up getting unto the M18 tools? I have a start in M12 but the blower and vacuum I'm leaning towards are both M18. Which would require new charger and batteries etc.



I started M18 for a few reasons, but the main reason being that it has so many offerings - offerings that I knew I would want to get (like the lights/fans/vacuums/etc.). The M18 line is more versatile. And the adage "there's no replacement for displacement" is true here. The heaviest duty top end M12 tool won't out-power/out-run a middle class M18 tool.

I'm not shooting down the M12 line or the idea of 12v tools. They definitely have their place. For instance, I'd love to have the ratchet and Fuel screwdriver...small, handy tools that are plain nice to use for the little stuff. But at the end of the day, I'd personally rather have "a little too much" than "not enough".
 

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Could of used the Mid Torque today. Could not get the Fuel 1/2 impact on caliper bracket bolts without a u-joint, though when I did the other side I did try the Fuel 3/8 impact and it just barely broke them loose. Really need that Fuel Mid 1/2 for tight situations.



Universal sockets work really well for this application. Short in length and no torque loss from adapters...although the 2763 can certainly afford some torque loss [emoji106]
 

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Milwaukee posted this on their Facebook page a couple of days ago.

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I LOVE the 2890. Perfect size, great sound, loud, rugged, incredible battery life, built in cord wrap, no frills - just works. Awesome radio. Add a $15 Amazon BT receiver and keep it stashed in the compartment and bam, BT radio.

:thumbup:

YUP you can't beat adding an inexpensive BT dongle to increase the performance of the basic radios. I do the same with my M12. :D
 

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Milwaukee posted this on their Facebook page a couple of days ago.

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I also had seen that picture. There is one more new hammer option too but not in the photo that I can tell. A 19oz smooth face that has a long fiberglass handle and is $30 or aout $10 less than the steel ones.

Should be a good basic utility hammer I would think.
 

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$599 with 2 9.0 batteries and rapid charger, free shipping.

I bought mine from Ohio Power Tool. I'm not affiliated with them, but their customer service has been excellent. I get all my Milwaukee stuff from them. I recommend them highly if you're looking for anything.

Sweet! Let us know what you think. I've been strongly tempted many times to ditch my garbage Bosch glider for one of those.

First impressions on the Fuel SCMS:

Man this thing is an *** kicker.

I recently had a basement leak in a finished area, which I am starting repair work on. So I had to cut a bunch of 2x lumber yesterday to rebuild the wall and soffit.

Obviously cutting 2x is no big deal for even the cheapest miter saw. This saw handled it without an issue. A full day of work (for me.. not a pro carpenter for sure) and probably 100 cuts or so on 2x4 and 2x6 used up ONE bar on the 9.0 battery. Unreal.

I also had some landscaping work to do- so I worked on that on Saturday. This stuff was a little more intensive, as I was cutting up very fresh, very wet pressure treated timbers. Again, no problem. Blew right through them. 60 or so cuts, 1 bar on the battery.

When I first unpacked the saw, I immediately put it all together (it's mostly assembled, you just mount the blade and carry handles) and checked the condition of the fence, tables and blade. I used 1-2-3 blocks and feeler gauges to inspect for 90 angles between fence and table, table and blade, and fence and blade. Everything was perfect out of the box, and required no adjustment at all.

The bevel adjustment mechanism is excellent- easy to use, easy to find detents, easy to override detents when you want to. Same thing for the detent mechanism for miters. Everything is very well designed.

One of the things that I found strange (in a good way) is that the saw seems to have very very good speed control. When the blade enters the material, the motor does not reduce speed- it apparently just ramps current to maintain blade speed in all conditions. It's very impressive if you've used other saws a lot and are used to hearing the motor pitch drop the faster you push the blade through the work.

One nice feature is that if you lift the blade guard first and then lift the head up, the blade guard mechanism is designed so that it goes over center, meaning that the blade guard stays up and you don't have to deal with the guard being in the way for a blade change. A very simple thing but very nice compared to some other saws.

It comes with a 60T carbide blade, which is nice- mine will see more furniture/finish/trim work than heavy framing, so I don't need to upgrade the blade right away. I'll take it.

It uses a light on each side of the blade to show you the blade shadow for cut line indication, similar to Dewalt and a few other saws. This feature works very well (much better than a laser) and was easily visible even in bright sunlight.

My only complaints:

1) On my saw, the locking pin for the head was stuck, and it took a few minutes to A) locate the pin (it isn't in the documentation which is weird) and B) get it unstuck. I had to rotate it a bit to break it free. After a drop of oil it works fine.

2) Dust control isn't great. It comes with a little bag, which ***** about as much as any other saw with a dust bag. The dust bag port is sized to accept 1 1/4" and 2 1/2" hoses, so most shop vacs will work without adapters. With a shop vac hooked up, it's not bad. Without one, meh. Not impressive. I don't really count this against the Milwaukee saw, because every sliding saw I have ever used has had mediocre dust collection ability.

3) To miter 45 degrees to the right, you have to remove the top part of the fence on that side. Kind of a pain. The fence is very easy to remove quickly, and it does go back in right at 90 degrees with no problem, so this is a minor issue, but not having to remove the fence would be better.
 

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Could of used the Mid Torque today. Could not get the Fuel 1/2 impact on caliper bracket bolts without a u-joint, though when I did the other side I did try the Fuel 3/8 impact and it just barely broke them loose. Really need that Fuel Mid 1/2 for tight situations.

I ran into that same issue about a year ago replacing the rear brakes on my Jetta. 2763-22 was way too big to get in there and with the U and extensions it didn't have enough grunt to loosen the caliper bolts.

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To be fair though they were really seized up in there. I think Volkswagen has a metallurgy issue or something in the rear hub assembly and the caliper bolts. I ended up getting it free with a long HF Pittsburgh Pro flex head ratchet wedging myself under the car and using my leg to push the handle. Thus my "How to fix a floppy flex head ractchet" video was born. Shows those Pittsburgh Pro ratchets are pretty tough though. It didn't explode!
 

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Has anyone used any of the hackzawls?
Is the m12 fuel better than the m18?
Any word if they will make a m18 fuel version?
http://m.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-...810129_slid_&gclid=CKTxi9Do0tICFYKKfgodC_8D0Q
I have the M18 hackzall and I use it all the time. I have never owned a sawzall but I have used one many times and every time I use my hackzall I think how nice it is to use one handed.

I bought a 12" Diablo pruning blade which I use all the time to trim palm tree fronds. I've also used the hackzall for all types of wood cutting.

I use it most however for fenderwell mods on trucks at work. I put together custom wheel/tire packages coupled with everything from simple leveling kits to 12" suspension systems and these trucks often need a little fenderwell massaging. The hackzall is a super star in this role. I make a mod on the 2007-13 Chevy 1500's when installing larger tires and more aggressively offset wheels in which the pinch/inner fender lip needs to be cut and sometimes sectioned and folded up a bit. I've done so many now its second nature and when I'm done you can't even tell the truck didn't come that way.

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I think the hackzalls are great so easy to handle. I just have basic M12 but I use it extensively to cut bolts, rod, pipe, tubing most any kind of work you would pick a reg hacksaw for. It will even do some limited demo stud cutouts, flooring hold it vertical and can even use it as a makeshift jig saw.

I have also heard the M12 Fuel is every bit as powerful as the standard M18. I have been going back and forth about them because I want a more powerful one and I can't say which one is better but have been leaning towards the M18 just because of the longer run time with bigger batteries! :headscrat:
 

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I have also heard the M12 Fuel is every bit as powerful as the standard M18. I have been going back and forth about them because I want a more powerful one and I can't say which one is better but have been leaning towards the M18 just because of the longer run time with bigger batteries! :headscrat:

The M18 also has a 1/8" longer stroke than the M12 Fuel - 3/4" and 5/8" respectively.

Not sure how that equates to real world results but it is a 20% increase.
 

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The M18 also has a 1/8" longer stroke than the M12 Fuel - 3/4" and 5/8" respectively.

Not sure how that equates to real world results but it is a 20% increase.


That is a point to consider

According to Pro Tool there are a few other refinements with Fuel that may also give it an edge. One major design change is the handle angle has been aligned more with the blade for better ergonomics and also gives the tool a better balance and it can stand on the battery now too.

I like the improved sleeve guard too my M12 can get all crammed up sawdust there.

Vibration is also supposed to be less with Fuel and of course the tool does weigh less and is slightly smaller overall that the M18

Like I say its tough choice. Though I have no problem with the brushed tools Fuels do have an real edge of refinement to them.

Bare tool M18 is quite reasonable though at $99 retail

Funny to read in this article the speculation of an M18 Fuel Hackzall to soon follow but it is now moving towards three years since then.

https://www.protoolreviews.com/tool...-cordless/milwaukee-brushless-hackzall/11725/

Maybe I can wait a little longer to see if that pans out yet :D

And hope it has an adjustable shoe!
 

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That is a point to consider

According to Pro Tool there are a few other refinements with Fuel that may also give it an edge. One major design change is the handle angle has been aligned more with the blade for better ergonomics and also gives the tool a better balance and it can stand on the battery now too.

I like the improved sleeve guard too my M12 can get all crammed up sawdust there.

Vibration is also supposed to be less with Fuel and of course the tool does weigh less and is slightly smaller overall that the M18

Like I say its tough choice. Though I have no problem with the brushed tools Fuels do have an real edge of refinement to them.

Bare tool M18 is quite reasonable though at $99 retail

Funny to read in this article the speculation of an M18 Fuel Hackzall to soon follow but it is now moving towards three years since then.

https://www.protoolreviews.com/tool...-cordless/milwaukee-brushless-hackzall/11725/

Maybe I can wait a little longer to see if that pans out yet :D

And hope it has an adjustable shoe!

Six years or so ago I borrowed what I thought was a non-Fuel M12 Hackzall. I really liked it and went out and bought the Bosch 12V version since Lowes had a special for a free PS20 driver with the purchase of another 12V Max tool.

At any rate after reading that article I now wonder if the one I borrowed was the M12 Fuel as I do recall it felt smoother and vibrated less than the Bosch I ended up buying. Maybe the brushed M12 is smoother as well, I don't know.

I do like the Bosch for yard work and use it a lot. Would love to have a Hackzall but am getting by with the Bosch while I decide what system to go with next. Milwaukee releasing a M18 Fuel would sway that decision for sure.
 

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Decided to pick up the m12 fuel drill and driver kit today and got the free ratchet. Was trying to avoid the m12 line because the m18has been addicting enough! Have to say I'll probably be using the m12 impact a lot more then my m18 now though because it's lighter and powerful enough for most jobs. Have to see how long the batteries last compared to my 5 amp m18 batteries.

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Overall similarity of Bosch to Milwaukee is interesting

I don't think I have ever seen a head to head video between those 2 brands in the 12volt platform

I believe Milwaukee claims to have a special anti vibration feature I don't know about Bosch. And of course what blade tooth you use can make a big difference too. I have a lot of blades in different TPI Most often I use a 14T.

Are lot of videos on the M12 Fuel comparing it to 12v and 18v tools

But according to the dates of most of them I don't think the Fuel was around much before Spring 2014

For all the vids out there the guys from OZ do some of the better ones from a performance stand point just like they did with the compact impact wrenches


18V tools have a power edge no matter how you look at it!

I just watched a good size comparison on M12 Fuel to the brushed version. I still like the one I have for what I often do
 
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But according to the dates of most of them I don't think the Fuel was around much before Spring 2014.

That's good to know. So I was right, it was the brushed. That means I'd like the Fuel even better.

Will watch that video. Pretty sure I've seen the impact one and know what reviewers you're talking about.
 

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Anyone selling the protective boots for the mid torque impact wrench (2861-20) friction ring model?? Looking online and see pics but can't find a part # or it listed for sale on any of the big sellers online.. cant search the thread right now for some reason.. gonna buy the impact today from HD unless someone knows where the boot is available..

Stuck plowing today and I already regret coming to this second job of mine. I'll be stuck in this friggin front end loader for 30 hours if we get the expected snow. Need a purchase to look forward too today..
 

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Yep I didn't watch any of the linked videos but years ago the M12 Hackzall and the Bosch equivalent looked virtually identical. I never knew if it was just the Chinese being really good at copying things or if they were coming out of the same plant.

TTI's certainly been known to produce one or two tools for other companies when asked. So maybe. I also think a lot of (but not all of) the Nextec stuff was TTI. I still have a Nextec drill which is my favorite 12V drill - it's lightweight but has proven itself durable and just feels good in my hand.

I haven't compared the two recently.
 

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I'm waiting for a special on the mid torque impact as well. Thinking maybe around Memorial Day, or Father's Day. I sold my high torque since it was way more then I needed, and I think the mid torque will be perfect for my use. Now I just have to be patient and wait for a sale.
 

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I'm waiting for a special on the mid torque impact as well. Thinking maybe around Memorial Day, or Father's Day. I sold my high torque since it was way more then I needed, and I think the mid torque will be perfect for my use. Now I just have to be patient and wait for a sale.

Dude commence man card revocation! Everyone knows you're supposed to keep the 2763 and buy the mid-torque :)
 

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Anyone selling the protective boots for the mid torque impact wrench (2861-20) friction ring model?? Looking online and see pics but can't find a part # or it listed for sale on any of the big sellers online..


That's a negative...no where to be found. But hey if you're bored in the truck...got plenty of time...call up Milwaukee CS and ask for the part #. Just put it on speaker and wait...haha. You might even be able to order it over the phone. That's what I did with my 2755B boot.

Maybe even report back with the part #
 

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A question for those of you who own the 46 inch tool box: when you attach the top to the bottom do you also put the foam pad in between them or not?

Thanx!
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That's a negative...no where to be found. But hey if you're bored in the truck...got plenty of time...call up Milwaukee CS and ask for the part #. Just put it on speaker and wait...haha. You might even be able to order it over the phone. That's what I did with my 2755B boot.

Maybe even report back with the part #

49-16-2861/60.....closest I have come to actually being able to buy this unicorn...

http://www.outilspierreberger.com/en/cles-a-chocs/13863-boot-protect-impact-2860-20-2861-20.html
 

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I did not, my friend did, dont think it says to in the manual.

A question for those of you who own the 46 inch tool box: when you attach the top to the bottom do you also put the foam pad in between them or not?

Thanx!
Charlie
 

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Nice! What do you like &don't like about it? How hard was it to put together? Did you need help putting the tip on it?

It's easy to put together, need two people for the top box. I like it overall for what I paid however I have a list of gripes. Main ones are the drawer slop when loaded on the bigger drawers specifically the full width one. I hate the matte finish it's a ***** to keep clean. Needs more slimmer drawers at the bottom instead of the useless caverns it comes with. Overall quality just isn't there just feels cheap. But so does every box store box I've tried they're all thin as hell. Also my drawers bind on many of the big ones. Really needs second slides.
 

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It's easy to put together, need two people for the top box. I like it overall for what I paid however I have a list of gripes. Main ones are the drawer slop when loaded on the bigger drawers specifically the full width one. I hate the matte finish it's a ***** to keep clean. Needs more slimmer drawers at the bottom instead of the useless caverns it comes with. Overall quality just isn't there just feels cheap. But so does every box store box I've tried they're all thin as hell. Also my drawers bind on many of the big ones. Really needs second slides.

You're the first person that I've encountered that has major gripes about the box.
 

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You're the first person that I've encountered that has major gripes about the box.

Have to remember I work I a professional shop in the saltiest most rusty garbage around. That sucker gets used a lot. This box seems to be designed more for a home garage. If it had all the same features with better slides I'd be pretty happy. If your in the US I'd check out the HF boxes seem to be better designed in some ways and they're priced better. At this point I would have to jump to a tool truck box or lista etc to be fully happy.
 

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Yes it is no where near pro level box, but not low end either, somewhere in the middle. I would say its better than most/all what they carry at HD/Lowes/Sears for around the same price. The HF boxes are a good value, but are about the same price or just a little cheaper. I rather have the Milwaukee, I have no HF addiction lol.

The drawer config & sizes are personal preference. My friend also said he rather have more thin drawers also. I think the config mix is good, I actually like wider and double/triple height, wish the 46 had more than 1 full width drawer. I have some drawers pretty loaded and will have to see if I notice any slop. The drawer I dont like is the flip lid one you can use as a table. Its makes storing things in that drawer a pain to retrieve, I am actually considering removing the lid on some of mine, I have the 46 & 2x30s plus the 60 monster.

You're the first person that I've encountered that has major gripes about the box.

Have to remember I work I a professional shop in the saltiest most rusty garbage around. That sucker gets used a lot. This box seems to be designed more for a home garage. If it had all the same features with better slides I'd be pretty happy. If your in the US I'd check out the HF boxes seem to be better designed in some ways and they're priced better. At this point I would have to jump to a tool truck box or lista etc to be fully happy.
 

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Just by looking at it I really don't see how you could even think Milwaukee had the tool mechanics layout in mind especially with the bottom cabinet and the big deep drawers unless you like stacking up tool storage cases

IMO its more designed for power tool and hand tool storage leaning towards other trades.



I have a 40" Craftsman ball bearing unit their were a couple different lowers you could get I chose the 14 drawer it has 8 long drawers six of them are 3" one is 4" and one is 6" makes for pretty good storage. And with the smaller drawers one is 12 inch with rest matching up with the long drawers.

And looking at things from a different perspective late last Fall I decided on an additional 5 drawer CM basic mechanics style tool storage cabinet thinking I was going to organize a bunch of my cordless tools in it and quickly found the 2 and 3 inch drawers weren't much good for that except for some smaller M12 stuff impact, ratchet, stick light, RA tools and I really needed at least a min of 4" deep ones for a lot of the 18V tools and batteries. dunno:

You do need some good size drawers to toss in like a grinder never mind store other tools like maybe a router, a sander or most especially a saw recip or circ. :D
 
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I have a similar Craftsman 11 drawer 41 inch box with 8 drawer too. I originally bought it with plans to get the 1 drawer full width middle box and add on 6 drawer side cabinet but those have been discontinued so I'm sol on more tool space. Every time I go to Home Depot I end up fingerings the Milwaukee box and bench. I'm just waiting on getting a few dollars together.
 

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I have a similar Craftsman 11 drawer 41 inch box with 8 drawer too. I originally bought it with plans to get the 1 drawer full width middle box and add on 6 drawer side cabinet but those have been discontinued so I'm sol on more tool space. Every time I go to Home Depot I end up fingerings the Milwaukee box and bench. I'm just waiting on getting a few dollars together.

I also had gotten the Craftsman one drawer middle box when I first purchased And as useful as having a single full length drawer the 3 pc stack was just darn high for my comfort zone and I sent it back.

As it is I use a 12 inch step to get into the top now :D

I also have a future plan to get one of numerous lower unit offerings with workbench top and position it next to the 40" Most do offer a single full length top drawer. I can always use more storage space.

I do have a 30" tower setup with a 3 drawer middle box (my very first unit) and once again that one is tall enough for me too!

:lol_hitti
 
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