The Milwaukee addiction thread! :)

[mobiledynamics]

witty. Got it. the festool, mak, in your pics. Those are made my Sortimo.....

 

[M635_Guy]

Added the 12v Jigsaw and Rotary Tool (Dremel) to my toolbox. Got a chance to use the rotary tool yesterday and I was pleased. Plenty of speed and torque for the project.

I'm going to pretend I didn't see that for a while...

 

[danski0224]

Sortimo is a different brand. They are a big truck equipment upfitter in Europe, distributed in the USA by Freightliner.

The Festool Systainers are made by a company called Tanos, and Tanos may make them for many different companies/brands.

https://www.tanos.de/en/home

Woodcraft sells some Tanos containers. There is/was at least 1 place in Germany that would ship Tanos to the USA and one could order just about the whole Tanos product line, but Festool has some exclusive designs that can only come in a branded Systainer.

 

[jmhinkle]

Got my 2 pack of M12 CP3.0 from HD sale in today. That takes care of M12 battery needs as I have a few of each size now.

 

[GSRinmyCRX]

what is the resale value of m12 charger and the bags that come with most m12 kits?

Levi

 

[Quick240]

what is the resale value of m12 charger and the bags that come with most m12 kits?

Levi

In my area, you're lucky to get $15 for the M12 chargers on Craigslist. Not sure about the bags.

 

[M635_Guy]

what is the resale value of m12 charger and the bags that come with most m12 kits?

Levi

Virtually zero for the charger - not much more for the bags

 

[dacan23]

M12 chargers are $5 or free, the smaller bags I will sell for $10 and the big giant M18 ones $20. Those are the prices when someones buying something else, aint meeting anyone for just a M12 charger or a few bags.

what is the resale value of m12 charger and the bags that come with most m12 kits?

Levi

 

[mobiledynamics]

Nothing IMO. The M18 does both platforms, and is only a smidge larger than the M12 standalone..

 

[mobiledynamics]

CORDED is dead....Ha. I still have my corded Metabo's grinders, a corded Hilti Reciprocating that got some poooower for DEMO, and the only other corded is just all my woodworking and hilti rotary/hammers.

Today, I took out my good 'old USA cordered Super Hawg, cleaned her up, and sold her. Been holding onto this tool just because of some 'usa nostalgia.

 

[Bolster]

I dunno. Corded still works when the batteries die, and doesn't require ongoing $100-200 investments in new batteries...I like both.

 

[mobiledynamics]

I've got enough batteries to last me any -task-......

I can't think in the last few years, when did I go out of my way to grab the corded variant of the same cordless one I have. I mean circa a decade or whatever, but the power and usability of the cordless is there. While the batteries get hot quick and I go through the alot given the task, having NO cord on a grinder has changed how I can hold the tool in so much more different scenarios than how my workflow would be if I was tethered to a cord

 

[DFB]

CORDED is dead....Ha. I still have my corded Metabo's grinders, a corded Hilti Reciprocating that got some poooower for DEMO, and the only other corded is just all my woodworking and hilti rotary/hammers.

Today, I took out my good 'old USA cordered Super Hawg, cleaned her up, and sold her. Been holding onto this tool just because of some 'usa nostalgia.

I think the last hand held corded drill I've used was my Makita hammer drill before I got the 2406 Now I even have a CORDLESS SDS

Outside of table and miter saw I rarely use a corded tool for building and carpentry even mechanical assembly and some fabrication in general ( a good 5 years I bet. )

Exceptions are the few tools I just haven't replaced yet

Belt sander, power planer, router I need to get that little dermal tool too

 

[mobiledynamics]

I was putting something into my bag and spied my EDC flashlight which then reminded me of this post again.

Between my rocket stand lights, the 3K Lumens floods or even the handheld original 1100Lumens flood, I have not even touched the plug in -old school- halogens in forever. I do still keep those halogen lights, as for drywall finishing work, nothing beats them in terms in color and looking for flaws in mudwork - aking to also holding a handheld incandescent at various angles spot checking for flaws

 

[dylanmitchell]

Saw a review of another bright green 18-volt TTI inflator. Still hoping Milwaukee will bring out an M18 inflator. Like more power than the M12 and have more M18 batteries than anything else. Be handly to have something cordless and most large compressors have warnings against using them for low-pressure applications like footballs, basketballs, potato launchers, etc. Ryobi has a handful of 18-volt inflators, and Ryobi and Rigid both have 18-volt portable inflators.

Corded power tools will always have a place. For a rarely used tool corded lets you pull it out plug it in and go to work. I'll occasionally pull out a Milwaukee demo hammer or hawg that's over 20 years old and it starts right up. And some tools like plasma cutters or saws can require serious power 230 volt and 30 amp or larger connections that you'll need a serious battery to run.

 

[DFB]

Ok 2 questions here tonight...

First what do you all think of the the 28-22-2889 screwdriver set?

It's regular retail is like $40 @ the Home Desperate and even more at ACME Tool. I seen a sale for $20 on it at Blains

https://www.farmandfleet.com/produc...html?utm_source=criteo&utm_medium=remarketing

Question #2

I got the 2439 M12 polisher/sander before the holidays what do I need to do to run ROLOC type stuff on it

I was figuring I could use it in the interim that way until I spring the cash for the M12 angle die grinder tool

 

[PelicanPines]

DFB, there is a dude on eBay who custom machines angle grinder adapters for the polisher. Search around there or in this thread using Google. I know I posted them here.

 

[Black300zx]

Quick question for all of the battery gurus here...

I know in the M18 lineup there are batteries ("HO"?) which make use of a different cell to allow the battery to provide improved tool performance. With regards to the M12 line, do the XC packs make use of these higher performing cells or not?

I had read that the higher performance cells are too large to fit in the M12 packs, but it wasn't clear if that statement was in regards to CP packs, or XC as well. I ask because the M12 CP3.0 batteries are consistently ~25% cheaper than the XC3.0 batteries and I can't for the life of me think of a reason that someone would spend extra to get the same capacity and same performance in a larger package

https://www.homedepot.com/b/Tools-P...fault&storeSelection=6175,6177,6845,6957,1255

 

[Ign]

Saw a review of another bright green 18-volt TTI inflator. Still hoping Milwaukee will bring out an M18 inflator. Like more power than the M12 and have more M18 batteries than anything else. Be handly to have something cordless and most large compressors have warnings against using them for low-pressure applications like footballs, basketballs, potato launchers, etc. Ryobi has a handful of 18-volt inflators, and Ryobi and Rigid both have 18-volt portable inflators.
{snip}

Praise the Lord, someone else speaketh sense!

Pretty sure yellow offers a 20V Max inflator, too.

 

[Ign]

So 'cause I know people were losing sleep just waiting to hear: my SECOND 2891 M12/18 BT speaker DOES seem better than the first.

It's not flawless, but farting is greatly reduced and I'd call it acceptable, so I'll be keeping it. The 2792 is still better, though, albeit with noticeable drawbacks like size and weight

 

[dacan23]

My set of those screwdrivers has been sitting on the work bench over a month unopened. I have high hopes for them, I do not like the cheaper tri-lobe ones. I really liked the prior style they had which was kinda middle of the road between the new cheaper and more expensive ones.

Ok 2 questions here tonight...

First what do you all think of the the 28-22-2889 screwdriver set?

It's regular retail is like $40 @ the Home Desperate and even more at ACME Tool. I seen a sale for $20 on it at Blains

https://www.farmandfleet.com/produc...html?utm_source=criteo&utm_medium=remarketing

 

[dacan23]

There are no M12 batteries that have the "HO" newer 21700 cells yet.

Quick question for all of the battery gurus here...

I know in the M18 lineup there are batteries ("HO"?) which make use of a different cell to allow the battery to provide improved tool performance. With regards to the M12 line, do the XC packs make use of these higher performing cells or not?

I had read that the higher performance cells are too large to fit in the M12 packs, but it wasn't clear if that statement was in regards to CP packs, or XC as well. I ask because the M12 CP3.0 batteries are consistently ~25% cheaper than the XC3.0 batteries and I can't for the life of me think of a reason that someone would spend extra to get the same capacity and same performance in a larger package

https://www.homedepot.com/b/Tools-P...fault&storeSelection=6175,6177,6845,6957,1255

 

[dacan23]

Maybe I will get around to posting pics, but it would probably take 5 pics as its scattered throughout 3 locations. Here is my packout addiction inventory, just updated it last night.

Milwaukee Packout Rolling Tool Box X6
Milwaukee Packout Large Tool Box X17
Milwaukee Packout Small Tool Box X6
Milwaukee Packout Large Organizer X6
Milwaukee Packout Compact Organizer X8
Milwaukee Packout Small Tote X1
Milwaukee Packout Medium Tote X1
Milwaukee Packout Large Tote X1
Milwaukee Packout Medium Bag X4
Milwaukee Packout Large Bag X2
Milwaukee Packout Large Slim Organizer X5
Milwaukee Packout Compact Slim Organizer X3
Milwaukee Packout Backpack X1
Milwaukee Packout Tech Bag X2
Milwaukee Packout Cooler X1
Milwaukee Packout Tool Case w/ Foam X3
Milwaukee Packout Dolly X3
Milwaukee Packout Mounting Plate X1
Milwaukee Packout Crate X4

 

[Tica]

This returns center currently has a lot of Milwaukee product available. I have no connection to them. I have purchased from here a bit over the years and have received decent working tools. I also have received non-working tools within warranty that Milwaukee repaired free of charge. I have never purchased a pallet, so no advice there. Bids on some items seem to be a bit pricey.

https://www.theselectsource.com/search?parent_id=&keywords=Milwaukee

 

[mobiledynamics]

I've been calling Milwaukee speaking with support a few times.
Things I've learned

There is no other -experienced dept- other than 1st line customer care, and then support.
Support have fairly broad knowledge about their products and what they don't know, they try to get the answers from the tech sheets or parts, etc if they have said documents available.

There are no - industrial sales/tech gurus - to answer questions, about some of their higher $1500+ tools. So one , like me, is left at the mercy of trying to piecemeal some high level questions about said tooling.

Eh, it is what it is, but man, I was thinking there would have been at least 1 live person who was a guru in Wisconsin that they could transfer me to....

 

[Ign]

I've been calling Milwaukee speaking with support a few times.
Things I've learned

There is no other -experienced dept- other than 1st line customer care, and then support.
Support have fairly broad knowledge about their products and what they don't know, they try to get the answers from the tech sheets or parts, etc if they have said documents available.

There are no - industrial sales/tech gurus - to answer questions, about some of their higher $1500+ tools. So one , like me, is left at the mercy of trying to piecemeal some high level questions about said tooling.

Eh, it is what it is, but man, I was thinking there would have been at least 1 live person who was a guru in Wisconsin that they could transfer me to....

There should be!

 

[DFB]

I've been calling Milwaukee speaking with support a few times.
Things I've learned

There is no other -experienced dept- other than 1st line customer care, and then support.
Support have fairly broad knowledge about their products and what they don't know, they try to get the answers from the tech sheets or parts, etc if they have said documents available.

There are no - industrial sales/tech gurus - to answer questions, about some of their higher $1500+ tools. So one , like me, is left at the mercy of trying to piecemeal some high level questions about said tooling.

Eh, it is what it is, but man, I was thinking there would have been at least 1 live person who was a guru in Wisconsin that they could transfer me to....

Curious to what type of questions are looking to get answered.

 

[DFB]

DFB, there is a dude on eBay who custom machines angle grinder adapters for the polisher. Search around there or in this thread using Google. I know I posted them here.

Ya thks found it


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Roloc-thre...noa=1&pg=2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1

So this vendor is the only option out there for a threaded adapter

I also see the collet adapter for a straight shank accessories

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ER11-Colle...a=0&pg=2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

 

[mobiledynamics]

Re: their force logic line. Crazy thing is, on 3 separate times with support, each one has ultimately said -let let look into it and get back to you, let me get in touch with the product manager, etc and get back to you.

On my 4th phone call to support, I was speaking with one of the support reps I originally had spoken to already, on one of my previous attempts. It is what is it is......maybe they're all too busy in the R&D building working on bringing new stuff for NPS 20....

 

[MikeF2316]

There are no M12 batteries that have the "HO" newer 21700 cells yet.

And if you look at the "bundle of three" part that slides into the handle of the tool, I don't think there's room for the 21 mm diameter cells. So there would need to be some fancy electronics in the pack to keep things even if they added the larger cells underneath.

 

[pwschuh]

Storing Batteries on Charger?

I have a small set of Milwaukee tools (four) and they never leave my garage.

I only have two M18 batteries and two M12 batteries. It strikes me that the easiest way to rotate them is just to throw batteries on the charger when they need charging and then just leave them there until the next set needs charging, and then swap.

I know it shuts off when they are fully charged, but is it OK to just leave fully charged batteries on my Super Charger indefinitely, until they're needed?

 

[kctyphoon]

Re: Storing Batteries on Charger?

I have a small set of Milwaukee tools (four) and they never leave my garage.

I only have to M18 batteries and two M12 batteries. It strikes me that the easiest way to rotate them is just to throw batteries on the charger when they need charging and then just leave them there until the next set needs charging, and then swap.

I know it shuts off when they are fully charged, but is it OK to just leave fully charged batteries on my Super Charger indefinitely, until they're needed?

Many of my batteries at home, and at work - LIVE on chargers.

In other news - my approach of ignoring my leaking hot water heater and hoping it will just stop leaking on its own, might actually be working...

 

[buddylee1998]

This returns center currently has a lot of Milwaukee product available. I have no connection to them. I have purchased from here a bit over the years and have received decent working tools. I also have received non-working tools within warranty that Milwaukee repaired free of charge. I have never purchased a pallet, so no advice there. Bids on some items seem to be a bit pricey.

https://www.theselectsource.com/search?parent_id=&keywords=Milwaukee

Do they ever ship

Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

 

[Bolster]

Re: Storing Batteries on Charger?

I know it shuts off when they are fully charged, but is it OK to just leave fully charged batteries on my Super Charger indefinitely, until they're needed?

Two schools of thought. Lot of people leave the batteries on the charger and swear by it. The charger is a "smart" charger and is not overcharging the battery.

OTOH, there's another school of thought that says the part of the charge that stresses a LiIon the most is the topping charge, between say 85% and 100%. That's the part that'll get charged over and over if you leave a battery on the charger. LiIon is happiest if never very empty and never very full. I subscribe to this school, so I take my batteries off the charger as soon as I see the green light, and put them back on the charger before they run too low.

Are you going for max convenience or max battery life? A battery with a longer life may not be worth the inconvenience to you, and the expense of getting a replacement battery a little sooner is relatively minor. But if you are OCD about your tools, you'll get max battery life from a LiIon if you keep it mostly between the extremes of empty and full.

 

[techieman33]

Quick question for all of the battery gurus here...

I know in the M18 lineup there are batteries ("HO"?) which make use of a different cell to allow the battery to provide improved tool performance. With regards to the M12 line, do the XC packs make use of these higher performing cells or not?

I had read that the higher performance cells are too large to fit in the M12 packs, but it wasn't clear if that statement was in regards to CP packs, or XC as well. I ask because the M12 CP3.0 batteries are consistently ~25% cheaper than the XC3.0 batteries and I can't for the life of me think of a reason that someone would spend extra to get the same capacity and same performance in a larger package

https://www.homedepot.com/b/Tools-P...fault&storeSelection=6175,6177,6845,6957,1255

They both use 18650 cells. The 3.0cp has 3 3000mah cells, and the 3.0xc has 6 1500mah cells in it. In something like a light, radio, or any low draw item they should give you very similar battery life and performance. However in some tools the XC batteries will provide more power to the tool. The 6 cells being able to deliver more amperage than 3 cells. For most tasks your not going to notice much difference, but when your pushing the tool to it's limits the XC packs will be able to do things that the CP packs can't. The circular saw may struggle to go through a 2x6 with a CP battery but cruise through it with an XC pack. Or a drill struggle or fail to run a 1" paddle bit through 2x material, but with an XC pack it will work just fine.

As far as the cost goes the 1500mah cells are cheaper than 3000mah cells, but there are still twice as many of them in an XC pack. I wouldn't reccomend anyone buying the 1.5cp or 3.0xc packs unless they get a screaming good deal on them. The cost difference is pretty minimal when compared to the newer 2.0 and 4.0 packs. And even the 3.0 and 6.0 packs have gotten to be a little more reasonable in cost when they're on special, or buying from ebay.

 

[davethorik]

Impulse buy. HD had a promo for free HO XC8.0 battery with certain tools. I had store credit so the pair was around 170 out the door.

Still haven't used it yet...battery takes FOREVER to charge on the regular M18/M12 charger tho I will have upcoming project(s) so it will get used.

I didn't weigh them back to back, but the saw + batt seems to weigh less than my older Milwaukee made in USA corded circ saw.

 

[M635_Guy]

Impulse buy. HD had a promo for free HO XC8.0 battery with certain tools. I had store credit so the pair was around 170 out the door.

Still haven't used it yet...battery takes FOREVER to charge on the regular M18/M12 charger tho I will have upcoming project(s) so it will get used.

I didn't weigh them back to back, but the saw + batt seems to weigh less than my older Milwaukee made in USA corded circ saw.

I'm really tempted by that saw. I wonder how much I could get for my Makita worm-drive.

 

[Black300zx]

They both use 18650 cells. The 3.0cp has 3 3000mah cells, and the 3.0xc has 6 1500mah cells in it. In something like a light, radio, or any low draw item they should give you very similar battery life and performance. However in some tools the XC batteries will provide more power to the tool. The 6 cells being able to deliver more amperage than 3 cells. For most tasks your not going to notice much difference, but when your pushing the tool to it's limits the XC packs will be able to do things that the CP packs can't. The circular saw may struggle to go through a 2x6 with a CP battery but cruise through it with an XC pack. Or a drill struggle or fail to run a 1" paddle bit through 2x material, but with an XC pack it will work just fine.

As far as the cost goes the 1500mah cells are cheaper than 3000mah cells, but there are still twice as many of them in an XC pack. I wouldn't reccomend anyone buying the 1.5cp or 3.0xc packs unless they get a screaming good deal on them. The cost difference is pretty minimal when compared to the newer 2.0 and 4.0 packs. And even the 3.0 and 6.0 packs have gotten to be a little more reasonable in cost when they're on special, or buying from ebay.

A lot of good info here, thanks! I have no intention of buying any 3.0XC packs as I have my eyes on a couple of the "get a free 6.0" deals that HD has, but I was always curious if there was any potential performance difference.

 

[Bolster]

Impulse buy. HD had a promo for free HO XC8.0 battery with certain tools. I had store credit so the pair was around 170 out the door.

Sweet deal! I am waiting for a similar sort of deal on the 6-1/2".

 

[M635_Guy]

Yeah, I'm dealing with it... (the new guy is in the middle, though all three are new since the holidays):

(comparo-slash-justification thread here)