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It depends on how deep I dig, but most likely one load with he Burb. I am dragging still, so I haven't really gotten rolling yet. I figure it is going to take me a few days to get back to the swing of things, I was hoping that I could make it until this weekend, then I could just do nothing for a couple days, but I pushed a bit too hard and it has caught up with me.
 
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I was literally ready to head out, then the FedEx truck drove by, so I waited for them to come back down the road, I had one package that needed to be signed for and two that were just really heavy. It worked out perfect, I needed a rugged box to send back my wheel spacers that didn't fit the Burb, so now I am packing those up and going to grab a few smalls for the auction from the Hill, then head to the SG to get the rest of the stuff together. Today will not be as productive as I had hoped, but it will get some things checked off the list that will make me feel a lot better.
 
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He has since apologized, but it showed his true colors, he made a couple comments making me remember why I shouldn't be completely tied to the Hill. It was a great dose of reality, his Dad was exactly the same way, needed to have some sense of control all the time, I don't tend to take well to that, probably my own control issues. Regardless, it has made me think about how I want things to go and as much as I want to be at the Hill, unless we come up with a legitimate agreement that has legal protections for me, I don't want to "just trust him", he can revoke anything at anytime and I hadn't seen this side of him in a while. Almost forgot what it was like, wish I could, but that is what deals with him hold for the future. I think my future is going to be moving away from all things related to Dad and his business, if I don't do it soon, it will be too late for me and my own plans. Being the guy that I am, I don't like the idea of leaving anyone in a lurch, but I may have to do just that, no matter what I do, it will always be my fault and I just need to wake up to that fact. He still thinks he pays me "really well, to do whatever he wants me to do", the problem is that when we made the agreement it involved a fully functioning office and a secretary, he had help full time for mechanical stuff. In his mind, I am the reason all that is gone, except the employee left because Dad refused to pay him enough money, the employee thought it was my doing (so it was my fault, right?), the secretary left because she needed health insurance and more money, I tried to find another person to fill her shoes, she found out in the weirdest way, again, all my fault. The office is my fault too, even though the guy we hired only works on some Saturdays and broke his leg last November and hasn't worked since. There are other examples, but those are the ones I discuss here frequently.
 

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I’ve read all 381 pages and I still haven’t figured out what you do. What exactly is your job responsibilities for your dad?
 

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Lots of big promises/narcissistic/Borderline Personality control in there, him over you, all designed to keep you roped-in but off balance and under his thumb. Your feeling guilty about leaving him in a lurch shows it's working. Go on with your plans to separate, learn about narcissism and BPD to keep you grounded. Expect the **** to really hit the fan when he sees you're serious.
 
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I’ve read all 381 pages and I still haven’t figured out what you do. What exactly is your job responsibilities for your dad?
I run six companies and manage two others, most of it overlaps, but it is not an easy task to keep things straight, especially with a makeshift office. I also handle leasing and maintenance of all the towers and and all the rental properties. Then I have to keep the books for all the companies except the two that I manage, plus keep Dad from screwing something up. Might not sound like a lot, but it seems to always turn into a lot. Lately it feels worse than ever.

If I can get an agreement for the Hill I would love to keep moving forward, but when I discuss an agreement, Dad usually says "You don't trust me?", I try and be tactful, but I really don't trust him. :(
 

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Soon after I got married, my father offered me his very successful market research company to run as he was about to retire. Since I got into the film business to avoid math and paperwork, I thought this was anathema to my lifestyle and life goals. Plus, it would tend to keep me in Southern New England with lots of schmoozing and business lunches in major cities around the country, instead of Northern New England where my soul tends to be at peace. The decision to pass was easy to make but harder to communicate to Mom and Dad. Once we had 'the talk,' we were both at peace as the path was clear for both. Not bragging, nor suggesting that your situation is any simpler or less complicated, but you and you alone know what will bring inner peace. I'm guessing you have made a decision already but are wrestling with how to enact the process. Stay strong and know that we all feel your pain and want the best for you!
 

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I know that your dad has a cell tower business. Is that the business that you manage? What are the other 6 companies that you run?
 
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Every tower is a separate company, then there are the rental properties, then two partnerships, basically all done for tax purposes, but quickly becomes a confusing mess. The main corporation had a structure change a couple years ago, so things became more complicated tax wise and will continue to be that way for another 2.5 years. Like I said, it doesn’t sound like a lot of work, but it turns into a lot of work when you have Dad messing with things all the time. One company is just a land holding company that until last year was not kept separately, but now has to get a loan from the main company and pay bills and taxes through its own checking account. Three of the companies own a combined 100 acres of land, Dad also has some intertwined land he personally owns, he had me running around trying to figure out how to develop it into house lots, took over a year to get all the info together and in the end it made no sense to develop it. Now he has me investigating tree growth and a couple house lots for family members, problem is the land is only accessible through a different town, so it will be a challenge to get one town to let us use their roads and essentially their fire department for land in another town. Most things I do are very difficult tasks that would cost a fortune to have someone else do, that is kind of what I specialize in, the inheritable permits, the crazy contracts, and other weird stuff. The last tower we built had a tough permitting process and our attorney told my Dad that if he had paid them to do what I did it would have been hundreds of thousands of dollars and he was pretty sure they wouldn’t have gotten the permit, I was able to come up with something outside the norm to make our permit go through. I also take on most legal things, dealing with the attorneys as little as possible, I have been doing this since I was 20 and the attorneys and I work so well together that I can usually get things done with very minimal costs without sacrificing anything legally. I am probably a true jack of all trades, master of none. One of the towers we built took ten years from start to finish and had a huge lawsuit that we beat, now it is one of the best money makers and I am working to get Verizon wireless on the tower.
 

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I'll change the gender and restate what my therapist said - "Sounds like he has you just where he wants you." That was an eye opener....

Too much entanglement to get out, not enough reciprocity to stay in.
 

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So you have been in this role for about 2 years now? You took over this role from the ex-employee?
 
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The ex employee just did maintenance, I was already dealing with leasing, then he had various office people to do the books. Now I do everything and then some. I think I really started this four or five years ago, except I had a couple people to help, now everything takes longer and things tend to pile up, so I have to triage most of the time.
 
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I am pretty sure he just wants to keep his control and that is where it will end. I don't have enough life left to play his game for the next 20 years, I just need to start working towards a separation rather than more entanglement. I have been building up my tools and equipment in anticipation of all this, it would be easier if I could finish a few big projects while I still have the shop at the Hill. The plan has been in place for a while, I just need to speed things up a bit, this year should be a huge leap forward.

As I have said many times, I really don't want to leave things in total disarray, so I am shooting for a reasonable exit, I might even shift back to just hourly, I think the set rate is actually what is killing me the most, I just get abused. The worst part is that I am not an employee, I am a subcontractor, so I still pay my own taxes and insurance, don't get me wrong, I do NOT want to be an actual employee. I would prefer things the way it was years ago, he would ask me to do "x" and I would do "x" and bill him, I was autonomous, now I am in his sights most of the time and he thinks because he asks me to do "x, y, and z" that it doesn't slow down the progress on "a, b, and c". In most cases he forgets what is going on, so he just looks at it like I am not getting his current favorite shiny thing done, when in reality there are much more urgent matters to handle. I am pretty good at juggling things and shifting my focus, but the lack of an office has severely hampered my abilities, plus with no support staff, that makes me the peon and the boss in a lot of situations. As for outsourcing or hiring someone, until I have an office space, I can't bring anyone in, there is no room.

The worst part is that when I started working for him, it was supposed to be 30 hours a week, sometimes less, sometimes, more, 30 hours seemed reasonable, except now I tend to work more like 40 plus a week, it is hard to tell exactly as things get mixed together, so even when I am doing my stuff, I may still be doing his stuff too. I used to make more on my own only working two weeks a month and now I can't seem to get more than a couple days where I don't have something that needs to be dealt with for his company. I had it all planned to get everything cloud based and then I would be able to work from about anywhere, but the office revamp shut down my progress. All I need is a month without his interruptions, but that will NEVER happen, he constantly calls me with his latest scheme or problem, some are small, some are major. The biggest issue is that if I don't get on it ASAP, he will start doing it and then it is twice as hard for me to deal with the mess he creates. Almost all the projects he has me working on never even go anywhere, so there is no end, just some random tasks to do, kind of like working just for the heck of it.

Our personalities are totally different, he likes to just wing it, so step A and C will get done, but when you get to step D, you can't move forward because you didn't do step B and then the whole project is dead in the water or you have to start over. I like to plan out steps A through Z (or whatever is needed), then I can deal with the surprises better. He doesn't like to plan much at all. So sometimes I have to plan how to keep him from messing up the process as well as plan getting the project done, it can be a RPITA.
 
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Trying to do some diagnostics on the Blue Burb, I recorded some data, took some screenshots, then went and used the Maroon one to get some more data, when I got back to the Blue Burb, it wouldn't start, the starter wasn't engaging. Banged on the solenoid with no luck, I am sure with two people it would have started, but I kept smashing at it, then trying to start it. Twenty minutes and it is running again, now I am all dirty from crawling around on the ground. I DO NOT trust this truck at all. I think there is something evil about it, do you guys remember where it came from???? I completely forgot about this until today, the effing truck came from Amityville, NY, yes that one. I have it loaded with the last of my stuff to go to the auction, I don't have any other vehicle to use right now, so I guess we can hope for the best, I am not turning it off, that is for sure. I will go drop the stuff off, then bring it back to the Hill and put it on the lift, or use the forklift to push it off a cliff, still undecided at this point.
 
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Well if you do Thelma and Louise it, please capture the event from ground level and from above as good aerial footage always gets lots of clicks and likes around here!
 

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Dude, you have to be getting close to having replaced everything that it could be. There can't be that many rounds left in the parts gun on the BB.
 
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The worst part is that we are doing things systematically, it isn't just random parts. There are no trouble codes, so the scan tool is not really helping me. As for the readings from the engine, other than the timing being too advanced, it isn't any different than the maroon burb. They even say that most people up the timing to above where we have it for "performance", but the downfall is hard starts when it is COLD, not hot. :(
 
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I can't let the darn thing beat me.

I have so much money into this truck, it is actually scary. I just need to learn how to do things properly and chase down the problem. The only real issue is that I want to drive it, so what I need to do is get another one running and then fix this one as I go, that way I don't have to worry about getting it fixed ASAP. I am most likely going to fix the white burb next, been toying with that for a while, it runs and drives great, just needs a piston or two...
 
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It is worth more to me in parts than I would ever get from the auction, I can't justify it no matter how much it mentally tortures me.
 
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I have more than $12k into this Burb, it would probably bring $2500 at auction. Once I figure out the problem I will be smarter too, plus it isn’t like I don’t have more than my fair share of these 6.5 diesels. It is just frustrating. I am going to work on the timing one more round and I had already bought a new starter and new battery cable, so the plan was to replace that soon anyways. The biggest issue is that I bought a problem and I really don’t know what was done before I got to it. Several issues have been debugged, just need to keep moving forward. I am sorry if I ***** too much about it.
 

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ok I am going to ask a dumb question? I don't know if that engine has coil on plug or as I say a regular distributor. I had a truck few years ago that would not restart after I drove it for awhile. It ended up being a bad cap & rotor.

Replaced them both never had an issue again.

Maybe you did this already and I missed it.
 

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ok I am going to ask a dumb question? I don't know if that engine has coil on plug or as I say a regular distributor. I had a truck few years ago that would not restart after I drove it for awhile. It ended up being a bad cap & rotor.

Replaced them both never had an issue again.

Maybe you did this already and I missed it.
While this is a diesel and so it doesn't have coil per say.... I think you do bring up a good point about heat and no start condition. It may well be an electronic component that functions just fine when cool, but once warmed up that particular component is having an open circuit due to heat. What that might be, I have no idea as I'm not that familiar with the diesels.
I do know that I worked through some funky issues on a 2004 chevy 2500 that had to do with the main computer, which is situated in the engine bay. The fix turned out to be a bad ground to the main computer due to a mouse, but troubleshooting it was a major pain.
So don't overlook the simple stuff like grounds... for piece of mind, it may be worth checking and verifying each one of those. The one chewed off on mine was behind the engine above the bell housing, so it wasn't readily visible, but was the main ground for the computer.
Good luck!
 
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We have only found that if you pour cold water in the injection pump it will start no problem. I have not had the opportunity to try ice yet, we want to make sure that the water isn’t creating a contact some how. I think the timing is what the issue is, like we are on the outside edge of what the computer can compensate for, then when it gets hot it can’t make enough of an adjustment to get the engine started. Once I change out the starter then I can mess with it some more.
 
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This one has a computer that controls the timing, you turn the pump one way or another to get a TDC offset. I purchased an old school setup that will allow for accurate timing based on ignition in the chamber, you insert an optical sensor into the glow plug port and it tells when there is combustion, should be the most accurate way to test. Of course, I just need to understand how to use it.
 
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