Above 1200 Sq/FT The Salvage Garage
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Wokspaces above 1200 squarefeet.
I’m shocked you didn’t buy them, most have at least made an offer.?There was a guy at the gas station with these on his truck:
250 HP and 150 HP!!!!
They were either new or freshly rebuilt, I am sure they would be over budget.
Sandblast cabinet was relatively easy.
The hydraulic press was a complete bear to unload, the seller told me that it was easy, you just pick it by the bolts, not. It tried to pick up just the press portion.
I had to drag it to the end, hang one side off the bed of the truck, then hook to the baseplate, lift and drag to get it sideways, put blocking under it, jam the forklift under it, then lift and adjust the blocks, then get it to the ground for final pickup. It was dark and cold, with a touch of wind to make things feel even better.
It is inside and now that I have had a chance to play around with it, well it is a bit better than what I thought. The rod (chrome part) of the ram is 12" in diameter and has about 8 1/4" of travel. It is very slow and I am not yet sure if the valves and adjustments are doing anything, so it could be something that I don't understand. It takes just under 8 minutes to do the full travel up and about 5 1/2 to come all the way down. It will go higher than 8 1/4" but it shouldn't have, some fluid went by the seal when I let it run to see where it would stop. I marked it so I won't go over that again. I am still not sure what the heck to use it for, but holly **** it is a monster ram. I need to contact the previous owner to see if they have any input for me, also going to contact the manufacturer and see if I can find anything out. I have no idea what the pump puts out for pressure, also would be interesting to know if I could change valves to make it go faster, like a rapid traverse, then go slow once you get close to where you need to be.
The four chrome bolts are also guides to keep the table from moving too far off center, not really tight tolerance though. The bolts are 2 1/4" diameter or so. Top plate it 4" thick, can't really tell how the bottom is made, but I would assume it is just as thick, could be wrong.
Sandblast cabinet was relatively easy.
The hydraulic press was a complete bear to unload, the seller told me that it was easy, you just pick it by the bolts, not. It tried to pick up just the press portion.
I had to drag it to the end, hang one side off the bed of the truck, then hook to the baseplate, lift and drag to get it sideways, put blocking under it, jam the forklift under it, then lift and adjust the blocks, then get it to the ground for final pickup. It was dark and cold, with a touch of wind to make things feel even better.
It is inside and now that I have had a chance to play around with it, well it is a bit better than what I thought. The rod (chrome part) of the ram is 12" in diameter and has about 8 1/4" of travel. It is very slow and I am not yet sure if the valves and adjustments are doing anything, so it could be something that I don't understand. It takes just under 8 minutes to do the full travel up and about 5 1/2 to come all the way down. It will go higher than 8 1/4" but it shouldn't have, some fluid went by the seal when I let it run to see where it would stop. I marked it so I won't go over that again. I am still not sure what the heck to use it for, but holly **** it is a monster ram. I need to contact the previous owner to see if they have any input for me, also going to contact the manufacturer and see if I can find anything out. I have no idea what the pump puts out for pressure, also would be interesting to know if I could change valves to make it go faster, like a rapid traverse, then go slow once you get close to where you need to be.
The four chrome bolts are also guides to keep the table from moving too far off center, not really tight tolerance though. The bolts are 2 1/4" diameter or so. Top plate it 4" thick, can't really tell how the bottom is made, but I would assume it is just as thick, could be wrong.
kaymccampbell
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I was thinking, if you could speed it up, you could put a screen on it, and represent it as a self-serve brain scanner. See how many folks would want to save a buck. I'm sure you could offer a friends-n-family discount.Now we all need to brainstorm on the best way to make the press useful. I am thinking that it could be used to bend brackets and shorter pieces of steel, maybe bend some 90s in one inch plate?
kent_323is
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Honestly, with a press of this style, you'd probably be better off flipping it, and then using that money to buy a press that really fits your needs. The best use is going to be doing something similar to what it was originally used for.... ie, bearings into housings, bearings out of housings, etc. Stuff that fits under it easily.
You'd need some pretty serious tooling in order to make it useable as a press brake, and there are cheaper and easier ways to do that. Plus the cycle time is so slow!!!
Perhaps you could set up some blocks and straighten those rams that got bent on your military dump truck!!! That'd be fun to see what wins!
You'd need some pretty serious tooling in order to make it useable as a press brake, and there are cheaper and easier ways to do that. Plus the cycle time is so slow!!!
Perhaps you could set up some blocks and straighten those rams that got bent on your military dump truck!!! That'd be fun to see what wins!
I don’t think there is going to be much of a market for the press, it was for breaking concrete cylinders and apparently the previous owner was worried about keeping up with the calibrations. He purchased a new one and this one was in the way. I would guess it is 50 years old or better. As for tooling, you would need that for any press brake, I was watching people making the dies out of sheet stock (AR400), they just bolted a bunch together after having them cut out on a laser. They bent 3/4” plate that was 7” wide and it took 45 tons to do it. The charts I have seen say 112 tons will bend a foot of 1” thick plate. I wouldn’t be doing production runs of stuff, so if it took me a while to make the parts it would still be worth it. I am going to play around with it some more next week.
Monza Harry
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That press may be useful as a "bailer" you would need a cylinder and a rod with minimal clearance between their ø's use to make chips into semi solid for recycling, check your local recyclers to make sure they pay more for "bailed" chips/really small solids. With that limited stroke you could only make 6-8" ø x ~2" tall pucks, but may be worthwhile for your recycling efforts.(?) Harry
you and this guy can get together for beers
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I think your machine has to put out 3700 psi to make 200 tons on a 12 inch piston
hydraulic question
i want to add a pressure gauge to my hydraulic press. it has a two way ram in it, what i mean, two hoses to control travel, one at bottom and one at top. which port to i tee into to add the gauge. let say the cly travel down when operation, so to read pressure on what being press and not what...
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I think your machine has to put out 3700 psi to make 200 tons on a 12 inch piston
racer-john
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68400BIRD
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Loosen those little button head screws and just Flip it over.
Monza Harry
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Yes top down is the most common, but bottom up presses aren't all that unusual. I've used a few over the years [mould spotting presses] you just have to get used to the equipment supplied, or in your case that you bought. I don't see how bottom up would pose much of an obstacle to most press operations. Harry
Spareparts
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Get some guards for it, we had a150ton press to remove tire assy. off the motors of Hyster order pickers, didn't have the press
ficture yet, well one of our maintenance men needed to change a tire, fabed up a fixture out of 1/2" wall blk. pipe. Well it exploded
and sent shratenal all over the place, He luckly wasn't hurt but several pieces went thru the side of the building and hit several
vehicles causing a lot of damage. We had the new fixture that aftornoon, Corporate was not HAPPY.
ficture yet, well one of our maintenance men needed to change a tire, fabed up a fixture out of 1/2" wall blk. pipe. Well it exploded
and sent shratenal all over the place, He luckly wasn't hurt but several pieces went thru the side of the building and hit several
vehicles causing a lot of damage. We had the new fixture that aftornoon, Corporate was not HAPPY.
kaymccampbell
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Just think that it's making the gap smaller. Which is really all presses do.
86turbodsl
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that looks just like the press my local forklift guy used on my tires. Perfect for your forklift fleet. <runs and ducks>They were either new or freshly rebuilt, I am sure they would be over budget.
Sandblast cabinet was relatively easy.
The hydraulic press was a complete bear to unload, the seller told me that it was easy, you just pick it by the bolts, not. It tried to pick up just the press portion.
I had to drag it to the end, hang one side off the bed of the truck, then hook to the baseplate, lift and drag to get it sideways, put blocking under it, jam the forklift under it, then lift and adjust the blocks, then get it to the ground for final pickup. It was dark and cold, with a touch of wind to make things feel even better.
It is inside and now that I have had a chance to play around with it, well it is a bit better than what I thought. The rod (chrome part) of the ram is 12" in diameter and has about 8 1/4" of travel. It is very slow and I am not yet sure if the valves and adjustments are doing anything, so it could be something that I don't understand. It takes just under 8 minutes to do the full travel up and about 5 1/2 to come all the way down. It will go higher than 8 1/4" but it shouldn't have, some fluid went by the seal when I let it run to see where it would stop. I marked it so I won't go over that again. I am still not sure what the heck to use it for, but holly **** it is a monster ram. I need to contact the previous owner to see if they have any input for me, also going to contact the manufacturer and see if I can find anything out. I have no idea what the pump puts out for pressure, also would be interesting to know if I could change valves to make it go faster, like a rapid traverse, then go slow once you get close to where you need to be.
The four chrome bolts are also guides to keep the table from moving too far off center, not really tight tolerance though. The bolts are 2 1/4" diameter or so. Top plate it 4" thick, can't really tell how the bottom is made, but I would assume it is just as thick, could be wrong.
Tommo3
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Congrats on the new can crusher!!
It is over now, my Buddy just recruited me to help him go get a vehicle two hours away. I can't say no, a couple months ago he drove me in his car four hours to Connecticut to look at a POS Burb I didn't buy. I am making him pick me up, so I can at least do a few more things before he gets here. Have some ideas for a bit of housekeeping, but it involves woodworking and I hate sawdust almost as much as I hate snow.
Just_Steve
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That's what friends are for.
bimmer1980
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Eh, sometimes it's good to do something completely different (sorta) for somebody else...
I'm getting ready to head into an old warehouse to move a couple of safes with my brother in law and sister in law.....
I'm getting ready to head into an old warehouse to move a couple of safes with my brother in law and sister in law.....
Gus_Mahn
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Is that press a Tinius Olsen? Multiple of decades ago I had a strength of materials class in college, and one of the units we studied was concrete formed into ASTM 6"x12" test cylinders. We froze it, put additives in it, and tested multiple days into the cure. After we capped the ends in sulfur to eliminate stress risers, we pressed to failure. Frozen cured concrete failed as low as 30,000lb, and full cured with Rheobuild 1000 failed explosively over 400,000 psi. It was one of the most interesting things in my education.I thought that I had mentioned it was used for breaking cylinders? Anyways, you are correct about the controls, it will allow for a much nicer and smoother increase in load. As for the dust, the cylinder is under everything, the entire base plate is raised, so I doubt there is much debris under it. I am still not sure of the travel or the for sure rating of the thing, hopefully I can find some more info on it, as far as breaking cylinders the guy said he has had it to 120k pounds or 60 tons, and he said that he was told it was rated at 400k pounds or 200 tons. The funny thing was that the guy I bought the sandblast cabinet off of builds giant presses for a living, I showed him what it was and he thought that it was a great start for what I was trying to do. I ended up paying $300 for the cabinet and $300 for the press, so I do not think I am going to get hurt, unless I put my foot in the press.
racer-john
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Concrete sample 6" x 12" stress press.
Pretty good idea actually.the Press isn’t three phase for power? be Fun just to destroy **** with it
I might pay to see the failure pressure of some big things.
Monza Harry
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4x Speed on YouTube? I bet you will get some hits! A bigger pump will speed things up, but that will need bigger motor and plumbing. 
Harry
Edit: HF jack stands?
HarryEdit: HF jack stands?
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rmack898
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That looks like the perfect loader for bulletproof. You might even be able to fit it in a flat rate box and send it to Texas.
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That is wonderful. Is freeloader the opposite of payloader?I think I might be buying another front end loader.
Spareparts
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Wouldn't have to worry about flat tires
bimmer1980
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There are some channels on YouTube that do press things to destruction... some use slow motion at the point of failure...Pretty good idea actually.
I might pay to see the failure pressure of some big things.
It's interesting. But also a bit mind numbing after awhile with some of the stupid stuff...