Between 485 & 705 SQ/FT The **** Shack
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Workspaces between 485 and 705 squarefeet.
It pays to try and have a long term plan sorted out so you can take advantage of opportunities when they present themselves. One of the things I've been rolling around is the idea of having a shallow shelf in the space between the man and garage doors. I saw a really neat old metal cabinet on CL a few weeks ago but passed on it because it was too deep and would have blocked natural flow into the garage. Glad I did because Wife found this for me today at her work - a Schweppes merch shelf that just happens to fit perfectly in the space.
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It has fully adjustable shelves and they are really heavy duty because it was designed to hold pop (or soda if you're a weirdo). I'm not in love with the blonde faux wood veneer but that is nothing a little paint can't fix, especially for the low price of free. I am very happy with how it fits in the space, I'm not sure that the dimensions would be that much different if I built it myself.
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It has fully adjustable shelves and they are really heavy duty because it was designed to hold pop (or soda if you're a weirdo). I'm not in love with the blonde faux wood veneer but that is nothing a little paint can't fix, especially for the low price of free. I am very happy with how it fits in the space, I'm not sure that the dimensions would be that much different if I built it myself.
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oldironfarmer
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This made me laugh more than I should have.
He said something I'm not brave enough to say.
oldironfarmer
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You need to work on your negotiating skills. If they were trying to get rid of it, I would have negotiated for a 20% discount
Grumblebum
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Where do "soft drinks" fit into that categorization ?
So I assume your wife works in retail. You would be amazed what gets thrown out at retail places. I have brought home tons of racks and wood that was straight up going into the compactor.
P.S. Us Texans call it "Coke" no matter what brand it is.
Bret
P.S. Us Texans call it "Coke" no matter what brand it is.
Bret
(Completely off topic here)
Pop, soda, coke, soft drinks... Another good one is sloppy joe, loose meat, maid rite, and tavern.
I honestly find dialectical differences fascinating. Even within a state like Iowa you can sometimes tell where someone is from based on slight variations in accent and what they call things. You know someone is from northwest Iowa if its called 'hot dish' (instead of casserole) and they pronounce words with a long 'o'. You can just about bet someone grew up south of I-80 if they have the southern Iowa/northern Missouri twang and call it a 'crick' (instead of creek or stream). My wife really gets a kick out of how I can tell if someone is English, Scottish, Irish, Australian, South African, or from New Zealand based on their accents. To people from these countries, the difference is probably obvious, but to Americans they all sound pretty similar.
Pop, soda, coke, soft drinks... Another good one is sloppy joe, loose meat, maid rite, and tavern.
I honestly find dialectical differences fascinating. Even within a state like Iowa you can sometimes tell where someone is from based on slight variations in accent and what they call things. You know someone is from northwest Iowa if its called 'hot dish' (instead of casserole) and they pronounce words with a long 'o'. You can just about bet someone grew up south of I-80 if they have the southern Iowa/northern Missouri twang and call it a 'crick' (instead of creek or stream). My wife really gets a kick out of how I can tell if someone is English, Scottish, Irish, Australian, South African, or from New Zealand based on their accents. To people from these countries, the difference is probably obvious, but to Americans they all sound pretty similar.
polexican23
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usually someone with little backbone and too afraid to commit to pop or soda out of fear to argue the point.
rmalkow2
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In Michigan it has always been Pop. When I lived in Georgia it was always Co-Cola. Short for Coca-Cola which is headquartered in Atlanta. Then what flavor did you want "honey" root beer Co-Cola, orange Co-Cola, or regular. I agree with BD that dialect differences around this country and within states, are indeed interesting.
TexasKen
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Don't forget about the bubbler vs the water fountain
Where I grew up the hard candy on a stick was a lollipop and out here they call them suckers. A sucker, where I grew up, is someone that is easily deceived, haha.
Also bags = sacks.
Skipping school vs sluff/slough (sp?)
And, there's a city named Hurricane, pronouced Her-ih-can ("can" like tin can).
Also bags = sacks.
Skipping school vs sluff/slough (sp?)
And, there's a city named Hurricane, pronouced Her-ih-can ("can" like tin can).
oldironfarmer
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SW Missouri has Nevada - Knee-veigh (like weigh)-duh.
oldironfarmer
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A common practice in England as well as other places is to guess your origin down to local area by your accent. Not really done here and it always amused me when a British gentleman would say "don't tell me, I can guess where you are from" and most people never heard of Oklahoma so after they guessed wrong (sometimes guessed Texas) and I told them Oklahoma, and got a blank stare, I'd say "it's next to Texas". They were usually interested in sharp toed cowboy boots. In Indonesia people would stare at my boots. In an elevator, with a significant language barrier, I would jamb a toe in a corner and say "cockroaches", which would usually get a laugh. Thanks for the reminder!
dwysywd
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Great thread. Took a few days and read 1-9. And astonished at what you've accomplished. Grew up going to west Iowa, Holstein to be exact, by Sioux Falls. Anyhow, great thread. Love the work bench. I screenshot a lot of the photos you detailed. I'm planning to build my bench this weekend I hope. My plan is to make the bench collapse if needed, but not sure if it's necessary. I have a 24w X 32L quanset hut. My rear (west) Window is 10'5" wide so I was gonna put a bench under it and some to the left. About 20' wide total across the back of my shop. Plan to have it about 32" deep. Using some reclaimed solid Mdf-chipboard and then veneered doors as my tops. They weigh a ton.
Love the 883's and have been wanting to build a basic ape hanger just like yours...btw, love the "Liberty" on the tank. Currently I have a 1973 Honda K550 4cyl that I have bought, sold, bought, sold and bought again that I'm creating my vintage cafe bike from... Harley is next.
Have to admit, had to use the morse code translator to understand you sig... That being said, -... ..- - / .- .-- . ... --- -- . / - .... .-. . .- -.. / .- -. -.. / .-. . .- .-.. .-.. -.-- / .-.. --- ...- . / -.-- --- ..- .-. / ... - -.-- .-.. . / -- .- -. !
As for the reclamation of "street finds" and incorporating them in the garage, I think it's awesome and I love finding and using spare "junk" as functional items in my garage. So keep on keepin on man!
Finally, back on pg 2, I think, you mentioned that this wasn't a glamor or huge garage build... I think pretty much everyone that has posted agrees that these type of budget, get me done builds are what the majority of us live through as our reality and it's awesome you are documenting the process.
Looking forward to what's next...
Love the 883's and have been wanting to build a basic ape hanger just like yours...btw, love the "Liberty" on the tank. Currently I have a 1973 Honda K550 4cyl that I have bought, sold, bought, sold and bought again that I'm creating my vintage cafe bike from... Harley is next.
Have to admit, had to use the morse code translator to understand you sig... That being said, -... ..- - / .- .-- . ... --- -- . / - .... .-. . .- -.. / .- -. -.. / .-. . .- .-.. .-.. -.-- / .-.. --- ...- . / -.-- --- ..- .-. / ... - -.-- .-.. . / -- .- -. !
As for the reclamation of "street finds" and incorporating them in the garage, I think it's awesome and I love finding and using spare "junk" as functional items in my garage. So keep on keepin on man!
Finally, back on pg 2, I think, you mentioned that this wasn't a glamor or huge garage build... I think pretty much everyone that has posted agrees that these type of budget, get me done builds are what the majority of us live through as our reality and it's awesome you are documenting the process.
Looking forward to what's next...
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I find it very interesting that you commented on that specific town Andy. No joke, as we were driving by there a few weeks ago on our way home from family Thanksgiving in Arkansas, my wife and I were cracking jokes about how they probably had a different way of pronouncing it. We have a Nevada, IA that is pronounced "Nah-veigh-duh".
We also saw a sign for Osceola, MO... in Wisconsin its "Ah-see-oh-lah". In Iowa its "Oh-see-oh-lah".
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Small world. I know exactly where Holstein is - I used to take Hwy 20 home to my parents house when I lived in Vermillion.
Now is the time to buy one. I've seen several low mileage ones in the last few months for $3k or less. I nearly called a guy around Thanksgiving who posted a bone stock 2005 with 9300 miles on it for $2300. I didn't because I keep telling myself that I need to keep my eye on prize - freshen up the bike I have, finish my garage projects, and restore the '64. I just mentioned to Koje yesterday how for some dumb reason I keep looking for a track car too. Like I need another hobby or project!
Well, the secret is out now! I guess I'll have to find a new method of encryption...
Thank you for the kind words! I've actually been subscribed to your build thread for quite awhile now, although I haven't done a good job of keeping up with your updates. Looks like things are coming along nicely! I really dig the wood burning stove - I'd love to figure out a way to incorporate one into my garage.
dwysywd
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I like the idea of getting the 883 now, but my pocket book and my dream book are spending from 2 different accounts! LoL
oldironfarmer
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Now you're getting personal. My mom graduated high school from Nevada, Missouri, and both my folks funerals were in Oh-see-oh-lah. (that's where the fantastic car collection I toured at her funeral is located) When you saw the sign for Osceola you were at Highway 13, Collins, my home town, farm is 1-1/4 miles south (in my dad's family since it was homesteaded about 1820 so we're pushing 200
), and I was born 8 miles south in Humansville. My only certain claim to being human was my place of birth. Big flat rock there, I guess. The Sac-Osage River bridge you crossed a few miles west of Collins is a mile upstream from my mom's dad's farm. Kind of my neck of the woods.With the cold weather and my hectic schedule as of late, I really haven't been that motivated to spend much time in the garage during the weeknights. So what does a flannel wearing bearded man do to pass the time on a cold winter evening? He brushes up on lumberjack theory...
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It was an impulse buy off Amazon to get free shipping, but so far I've been very pleased with my purchase. A nice balance of technical and practical information. If you are even remotely interested in firewood, I think you will find this book enjoyable. The only problem is that this little book has got me all fired up (pun intended) to install a fireplace again. We talked about it when we first moved in, and we've got the perfect spot for it in the corner of our living room, its just a matter of getting it done.
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Very interesting... thanks for sharing that Andy! In 1820, all of my ancestors were still in Bavaria, Bohemia, and Norway. The earliest ancestor didn't make it to the midwest until the sometime in the 1880's.
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It was an impulse buy off Amazon to get free shipping, but so far I've been very pleased with my purchase. A nice balance of technical and practical information. If you are even remotely interested in firewood, I think you will find this book enjoyable. The only problem is that this little book has got me all fired up (pun intended) to install a fireplace again. We talked about it when we first moved in, and we've got the perfect spot for it in the corner of our living room, its just a matter of getting it done.
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Very interesting... thanks for sharing that Andy! In 1820, all of my ancestors were still in Bavaria, Bohemia, and Norway. The earliest ancestor didn't make it to the midwest until the sometime in the 1880's.
Found some time this morning to 'finish' (nothing is ever finished) the saw cart.
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It does look a little more cobbled than I'd like, but I am happy with the functionality of it. It took more brainwork than I expected because I had to work within the size constraints of the space under the bench, the size of the tools I wanted to store on it, and the boards I had on hand. I eventually did break down and buy a sheet of 1/2" ply so I could have a decent top for the saw to sit on. Between that and the casters, the bill ended up being about $25.
I do want to build some trays/boxes for the individual tools to keep everything nice and tidy, install a power strip, maybe add some pegboard on the sides so I can store spare blades and other odds and ends, and eventually paint it. The nice thing is that I freed up two tool chest drawers and one of my storage shelves and now have all my saws and sanders in one spot.
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It does look a little more cobbled than I'd like, but I am happy with the functionality of it. It took more brainwork than I expected because I had to work within the size constraints of the space under the bench, the size of the tools I wanted to store on it, and the boards I had on hand. I eventually did break down and buy a sheet of 1/2" ply so I could have a decent top for the saw to sit on. Between that and the casters, the bill ended up being about $25.
I do want to build some trays/boxes for the individual tools to keep everything nice and tidy, install a power strip, maybe add some pegboard on the sides so I can store spare blades and other odds and ends, and eventually paint it. The nice thing is that I freed up two tool chest drawers and one of my storage shelves and now have all my saws and sanders in one spot.
1/2 Cup
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bdbecker your saw cart really fits the bill.
Form and function plus..
Regards
Form and function plus..
Regards
snedboy
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Nice work on the saw cart. Bench top looks great too
rmalkow2
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Nice job tucking the saw and cart away under your bench. Makes me think now why do I have mine out taking up bench top space when I don't really use it very often. Hmmmm. 
Makes me think now why do I have mine out taking up bench top space when I don't really use it very often. Hmmmm. Thanks Walt, I'm glad you appreciate them as much as I do. There's just something about a good patina on carbon steel...
Glad to see you finally got a contractor lined up for your shop! Also, know that I'm pulling for you with your upcoming surgery.
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Nice job tucking the saw and cart away under your bench.
Thank you! It was a decision I did go back and forth on. I originally was thinking of having a dedicated saw bench on a different wall of my garage because the thought of having to pull out a cart and set up the saw every time I needed to cut something seems like a bit of a waste of time. However, the long term vision is for a clean and clutter free space, so being able to put away the saw ended up winning. Time will tell if I made the right decision or not.
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bdbecker your saw cart really fits the bill.
Form and function plus..
Regards
As always, thank you for the kind words!
oldironfarmer
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Very nice use of space on the saw cart. Gets me to thinking, after I saw your saw.
I had a surprisingly productive couple of hours in The Shack today.
First, a little background, I ended up getting a whole load of 38" long A36 structural 3" channel for scrap price. It looked like I had put a lowering kit on the Jeep once I had it loaded. Don't be surprised if a lot of things in my garage end up being made with channel in the future!
I wasn't intending to do anything with the table today, but after making a test cut with the sawzall, one thing lead to another, and I ended up getting the top welded up.
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I'd been going back and forth between doing a flat top table and making a slotted layout table until I came across this channel and the decision was made for me. I still need to make a frame and legs, but a good start! I figure I'll incorporate a couple of hitch mounts so I can mount a grinder or vise. I may even try to sneek the weld machine into it as well... we'll see what I have room for.
First, a little background, I ended up getting a whole load of 38" long A36 structural 3" channel for scrap price. It looked like I had put a lowering kit on the Jeep once I had it loaded. Don't be surprised if a lot of things in my garage end up being made with channel in the future!
I wasn't intending to do anything with the table today, but after making a test cut with the sawzall, one thing lead to another, and I ended up getting the top welded up.
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I'd been going back and forth between doing a flat top table and making a slotted layout table until I came across this channel and the decision was made for me. I still need to make a frame and legs, but a good start! I figure I'll incorporate a couple of hitch mounts so I can mount a grinder or vise. I may even try to sneek the weld machine into it as well... we'll see what I have room for.
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oldironfarmer
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Nice looking table! That 3" channel is a real find, a nice size and good and strong! You'll find lots of uses for it, 38" makes legs! And welded leg to leg makes on heck of a box.
That 3" channel is a real find, a nice size and good and strong! You'll find lots of uses for it, 38" makes legs! And welded leg to leg makes on heck of a box.Nice looking table!
Thanks Andy! I'm really trying to 'channel' all of my fabrication knowledge into this table design.
The top is right around 125lbs as it sits now. By the time I get legs on it, it'll probably end up being over 200lbs. Post weld measurements have me 1/32" within square when measuring corner to corner and flat enough for the type of work I'm capable of. I'm pretty happy with that because (as you probably know) the channel leg lengths from the mill aren't exactly consistent and I had to fill some gaps when welding. I may go back and triple pass all the welds for piece of mind, or bring it into work and hit it with something a little bigger than my little 120v welder.
I am going to go get some more channel tonight - my Dad saw my table top and decided he wanted one too. I'm having a really hard time resisting the hoarding urge. I failed on Friday when I grabbed at least twice as much channel as I needed to build my table, hopefully tonight I can only walk away with what I actually need for his table. I'm not making any promises though...
I usually only post projects of significant impact (workbench, shelves, roof, etc.) for the sake of time and interest. However, if you are reading through this thread looking for ideas or inspiration, let me tell you that its all the small things that really make the biggest difference. Take this sander organizer box I threw together last night while my wife got ready to go out to dinner. No fancy joints, no innovative concept that's going revolutionize how we store sanders, its just a simple box made out of simple materials that solves a problem. I will no longer have to worry about cords getting tangled up or sandpaper falling all over the place. When I need to sand something, I can now just pull out this box and have everything I need.
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Sometimes I think we focus so much on the next big thing that we forget about all the little things we could be doing in the meantime. Its little projects like this that were the turning point for me. Projects that this where I could complete them quickly and immediately enjoy the results that really got the ball rolling for my garage refresh.
So if you are reading this forum thinking how great it would be to have a nice big space with a lift and a workbench, but you don't have the money and your garage is a total disaster, I would challenge you to start looking around your space for cheap, half-hour projects like this. Little things you can do today that will make a difference in the long term. That, my friends, is where the real change happens.
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Sometimes I think we focus so much on the next big thing that we forget about all the little things we could be doing in the meantime. Its little projects like this that were the turning point for me. Projects that this where I could complete them quickly and immediately enjoy the results that really got the ball rolling for my garage refresh.
So if you are reading this forum thinking how great it would be to have a nice big space with a lift and a workbench, but you don't have the money and your garage is a total disaster, I would challenge you to start looking around your space for cheap, half-hour projects like this. Little things you can do today that will make a difference in the long term. That, my friends, is where the real change happens.
Craptain
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I totally agree with this. Now I just have to get fully on board with the program. I have quite a few boxes and similar storage options but then I want to make them part of a system. That doesn't happen and I now have a mish mash of odd sized boxes and trays that don't fit or store easily together. Come to think of it power tool manufacturers should think in terms of storage compatibility.
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I just wanted to highlight this for absolute truth! I have been practicing this, a lot. It may seem to some like I'm not focused when I tackle/complete mini projects but you're right, they do add up. And it's nice to feel like you've gotten something done in time that you couldn't really have dedicated to that larger project.
Sometimes there's not time to delve into a big project.
rattle_snake
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I call those 'one beer' projects. I did a few last night but that's an exception for me always in deep on a few big projects...
Your shop has come a long ways nice work.
oldironfarmer
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Very wise advice.
At work I used to get so busy that no one task seemed important enough to tackle in between fire fights. You just have to start something.
When you get stumped, I like Roy Underhill's (Woodwright Shop) advice: sharpen your chisels and oil your planes when you get stumped. It takes your mind off your problem and you'll always have sharp chisels and well oiled planes. I like that, when you screw up and can't figure out what to do, do something you know how to do. It really improves your attitude.
Keep up the good work!
At work I used to get so busy that no one task seemed important enough to tackle in between fire fights. You just have to start something.
When you get stumped, I like Roy Underhill's (Woodwright Shop) advice: sharpen your chisels and oil your planes when you get stumped. It takes your mind off your problem and you'll always have sharp chisels and well oiled planes. I like that, when you screw up and can't figure out what to do, do something you know how to do. It really improves your attitude.
Keep up the good work!
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dwysywd
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This is a paragon of developing grit in your life. This is excellent advice...sometimes we forget the simple tasks lead to the ah-ha moments that solve our problems.
rmalkow2
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Good advice BD. Those small projects can give you the needed feel of accomplishment and get you back on track for bigger things. Great little box to organize your sanding equipment.
In case I don't have internet/time over the next few days, I want to wish everyone a merry Christmas!
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