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[bdbecker]

I finally got the last sheet of OSB installed on the north wall.

(Keen readers will also note that the yard is ready for winter if you look at the window in that pic.I've probably spent more time on that than the garage lately.)

Which meant I was able to finally push my workbench back into its home and start reclaiming some sense of normalcy in my garage. I’m also going to take the time to really organize and optimize has I start putting stuff back. One of the first (and probably least necessary) projects I knocked out was to finally make a shelf to hold the TV and stereo receiver.

I used drops from my window headers to create the wall support pieces, and some pieces of 23/32” BC plywood to make the shelf. The shelf itself is sized to hold a 40” flat screen TV. I basically went on the BestBuy website and looked at dimensions of a dozen or so TV’s and added a few inches in each direction. The center part of the shelf is sized to hold my stereo receiver.

I got the old Sanyo CRT wrestled into place. I’m torn as to whether or not to hook it up, or just replace it. On one hand, I kind of like the old tube TV - kind of reminds me of an old bar TV tucked up in the corner like that. But on the other hand, it is probably way more trouble than its worth. I’ve got a coax switch box (remember those?) so I can go between the OTA antenna receiver and the Roku. The Roku itself has an RCA to coax adapter. It’s also so old that it has to spend a minute or two loading the different streaming apps when I switch between them. I’m also guessing Roku will probably stop supporting that device all together pretty soon and it’ll no longer work. All of this would be solved with a cheap smart TV, and give me a much larger and better picture. Decisions… decisions… I’ll probably no more than get it hooked up and it’ll finally die 20 minutes later. Maybe I'll keep my eye out for a holiday deal or something on the used market.

That gets us current for now. More cleaning and more organizing to come!

 

[XJSuperman]

Its now or wait awhile for seasonal deals. Cyber monday and all that...
I say run what ya got but at the same time, you're probably right, itll die right after you fight all the setup for it.

 

[wreckdiver1321]

Nice progress!

While I like the old CRT, I do think you'd be better served by an inexpensive smart TV. If you keep your eye on Amazon or Best Buy, you'll be able to track down what you need cheaply. I'm planning on that route for my shop TV as well. Good news is, this is the time of year to buy a TV. Electronics go really cheap right now, especially today.

 

[burger]

Lookin' rad, Brad (my kids would be mortified at a dad joke like that)

Would you mind taking a picture of the whole north wall?

Looking forward to seeing what you do with the organization!


Ed

 

[nicholam77]

Came out great! Are you going to paint it this season or is it too cold?

 

[mybigwarwagon]

If that old TV falls on you it will make you wish you had a smart TV. We finally broke down a couple of years ago and got rid of the old CRTs, I don't miss them.

 

[loganb]

+1 with wreckdiver, a used flat-screen paired with that Roku would be much nicer unless trying hard for for old bar vibe. With the sales on tv that last several days check FB Marketplace, a lot of the ones being upgraded from have hit online classifieds the past several days

 

[GeddyT]

Also agree on the smart TV. You mentioned you have a Roku anyway, so just look for a TV with Roku built in. When the Mursess wanted to start working out and doing yoga in the shop several months ago*, I cleared out a corner for her and bought and installed the cheapest and smallest smart TV at BestBuy that day. I think it's a Westinghouse, and I paid $200. It has Roku as the OS, which was well reviewed. I didn't like that I had to create a Roku account before I could even turn the thing on (and still don't), but all was forgiven when not only was her obscure yoga video subscription service right there in the built-in guide, but two or three others were as well!

For such a cheap TV, it's 4K, picture is great, WiFi range is better than my laptop. Couldn't ask for more. Having recently replaced my other TV after the kids used it as a trampoline, I've learned that prices have climbed about 20% lately due to shortages, but it's still really reasonable.

In other news, awesome work on the shop! Nice job getting the daughter involved, too. Those windows came out great, and even better that you were able to recycle windows in a creative way and make it work. I would have never thought to move the weep holes.

*And she has. Twice!

 

[bdbecker]

You guys have convinced me to upgrade. I'm going to keep an eye out for a deal. A quick look last night on Marketplace already turned up a couple of used dumb TV's for pretty cheap. I also see Roku now has a "long range" wifi stick. So for less than $100, I could have a much nicer setup in the garage.

Lookin' rad, Brad (my kids would be mortified at a dad joke like that)

Would you mind taking a picture of the whole north wall?

Looking forward to seeing what you do with the organization!

I am a fellow dad joke/pun enthusiast, so no worries. I'm still working on getting everything cleaned up from the project. When I'm done, I will for sure take some 'after' photos.

Came out great! Are you going to paint it this season or is it too cold?

I could probably heat the garage up enough to paint without issues. However, I'm thinking of making some storage cabinets for above the workbench but don't have the final plan/dimensions worked out just yet. Once I build and install them, I figure I'll just paint around them.

...I would have never thought to move the weep holes...

My brother installs windows and doors for a living. He was telling his coworkers about how I moved them and they were apparently pretty impressed that I'd even consider doing something like that. To be honest, I really didn't give it too much thought. I looked at how the windows were built, and knowing what I know about manufacturing processes, figured it was a safe bet that the extrusions were all the same and that it really wouldn't matter what side the weep holes were on. Time will tell of course, but I sleep fine at night.

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So I'm hanging out in the garage last night after work, just sipping on a cold one and putting a few tools away when all of the sudden I notice something kind of important. In my excitement to get the bench back in its home, I completely forgot to re-install the backsplash boards that I removed during the window project (so I could use my bench from either side). I couldn't believe it. I just stared at the spot where the boards are supposed to be for a good 30 seconds thinking about how I could have forgotten to do something so simple and obvious. Oh well, I guess the bench is coming out from the wall one more time.

 

[harley jim]

My grandaughter bought a roku tv at Walmart and put it in the camper 150 ft. from the house out in the back yard. I told her that the wifi probably wouldn't pull it all the way out there inside a metal box with a metal carport around it. I was wrong, dang thing works perfect. I'm thinking about upgrading mine in the shop.

 

[bdbecker]

Early last week I was looking at my employees’ vacation balances to make sure nobody would be affected by our company’s “use it or lose it” policy (can’t carry over more than 40 hours). Then I got to thinking, I wonder how much vacation I have? Turns out, I need to burn another 10 hours before the end of the year. Wife suggested I take the next couple of Fridays off to work in the garage. She knows me well! I only took a half day last Friday, but I was finally able to restore balance back to my shop by getting the workbench backsplash installed and getting my workbench back in its home (hopefully for more than two weeks this time).

I then started getting everything settled back in. The first thing to get a new home was my squares and levels which used to hang on the wall above my workbench. I ended up putting them behind the door. In the past, this area was always a bit of a catch-all spot for random, long items like the patio umbrella and shovels. Now it’ll provide easy access to these tools for carpentry jobs both in and outside of the shop (and also prevent me from hiding random stuff behind the door). I also made a spot for my track saw rails and put up a hook for my apron and shop shirts. The only thing that’s missing is a little stool to sit on so I can do a full Mr. Rogers outfit change as soon as I step into the shop.

As I was putting tools, I remembered another project that I’ve been meaning to get to – cleaning up my sander box.

Around Black Friday, Home Depot had a good deal going on a multi-grit pack of Diablo SandNet discs. My old system for keeping discs separate was to just leave them in their packages. Since this pack had them all mixed together, I wanted an easier way to find a specific grit quickly. I found a piece of ¼” ply in inventory, got busy with the saw, and had a nice set of dividers in no time.

Much more tidy now…

Now that I’ve got a way to keep everything straight, I’ll be able to stock up on paper for my sheet sander. I was going to cut two sets of dividers, but then figured it’d probably be easier to just use one set of dividers and just put the discs in front and the sheets in the back of each section. The sanding sponges don’t technically belong in this box, but I find it handy to have a few grits in with the sanders for those little touchups in tight corners. Plus, they do a good job of keeping the discs in place, so they’ll stay for now.

Finally, I temporarily hung up a light over the bench using a pair of old shelf brackets.

The plan is to build some sort of storage for this space with integrated task lighting for the workbench. I’m trying to be mindful of the dimensions so that I don’t make the cabinets too tall or deep and make things feel claustrophobic when I’m standing at the bench. I think I have the dimensions sorted out, but am going to mock it up using cardboard first.

That sums things up for now. I’ll be enjoying another three day weekend again this week, so hopefully more progress to report next week.

 

[bdbecker]

My grandaughter bought a roku tv at Walmart and put it in the camper 150 ft. from the house out in the back yard. I told her that the wifi probably wouldn't pull it all the way out there inside a metal box with a metal carport around it. I was wrong, dang thing works perfect. I'm thinking about upgrading mine in the shop.

I ended up hooking up the old setup for now. Now that the Roku box is a little higher up in the garage, and we moved our router to a different spot in the house, the apps load a lot faster than in the past. It used to take a minute or two, now it takes less than 30 seconds or less to go between Netflix and YouTube.

 

[35k0]

Looks awesome!
I went with OSB on my walls too, I didn't want to deal with easily damaged drywall.

 

[nicholam77]

The only thing that’s missing is a little stool to sit on so I can do a full Mr. Rogers outfit change as soon as I step into the shop.

Lol!
Organization looks good. I'm jealous of those windows!

 

[Klokwerk]

I love the look of OSB in there. The windows look great!
Any plans to increase the number of outlets on the bench? I only see the one.

 

[wreckdiver1321]

That looks like some fantastic work. I'll bet it feels good to have those benches back in place and some of that stuff organized.

I need to figure out a sanding box like you have, or at the very least an organizer for my sandpaper. I've been storing all of it in a toolbox drawer, but that's both temporary and a terrible idea because of the grit knocking some paint off. It's also impossible to find anything in there.

 

[XJSuperman]

That bench really looks great. I was getting jealous and then I realized mines probably the same size except its covered in junk!
The backsplash looks good too. Glad you stopped to install it.

 

[bdbecker]

Looks awesome!
I went with OSB on my walls too, I didn't want to deal with easily damaged drywall.

Thank you!

The decision on drywall vs. OSB came down to three factors for me. First, I liked the idea of being able to hang something without needing anchors. Second, I wasn't interested in doing all the finish work that comes with drywall. Finally, I figured it wouldn't hurt to add a little rigidity to the structure since the exterior sheathing on my garage is fiberboard. Drywall certainly has some advantages - nicer finished product and fire resistance - I think it all just comes down to personal preference.

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Lol!
Organization looks good. I'm jealous of those windows!

Thanks Nick!

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I love the look of OSB in there. The windows look great!
Any plans to increase the number of outlets on the bench? I only see the one.

For now, I've got a 4' HF power strip mounted on the wall (not pictured). Long term, a service upgrade is in the plans.

I've only got a 120v, 30 amp circuit for the garage right now. Running the shop vac at the same time as the table saw makes me nervous enough to unplug the fridge and shut off the stereo. The plan is to run a new line from the house and install a sub panel. I'd like to have 240v service that'll let me run some bigger tools. When that happens, I plan on upgrading the outlet situation in the garage. This is also why I stuck to surface mount boxes and conduit instead of burying the wiring in the walls. I know it doesn't look as sleek, but it can be modified easily to suit my needs as they evolve.

That looks like some fantastic work. I'll bet it feels good to have those benches back in place and some of that stuff organized.

I need to figure out a sanding box like you have, or at the very least an organizer for my sandpaper. I've been storing all of it in a toolbox drawer, but that's both temporary and a terrible idea because of the grit knocking some paint off. It's also impossible to find anything in there.

Oh man, you have no idea how happy I am to have things back to normal. It was really getting old having to side step the bench each time I walked in the garage.

I've actually made a handful of organization boxes out of 1x6 pine board drops, material supplied by the wood dumpster at work (we make our own oversize pallets and these are drops that get tossed). They have actually turned out to be pretty handy. I've made boxes for my recip saw, jig saw, sander, and also a bunch made for storing odd items. I think what makes them so handy is how I didn't overthink (for once) the construction method - no fancy joints, just pin nails and wood glue. This means if I need to make a box, I can just bang one out quickly and its not a big deal.

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That bench really looks great. I was getting jealous and then I realized mines probably the same size except its covered in junk!
The backsplash looks good too. Glad you stopped to install it.

24' of workbench may seem like too much for such a small shop, but I have absolutely no regrets making it this big. Here's a pic of the full bench right after I built it for anyone who may not have read the whole thread.

Admittedly, things do get away from me sometimes and stuff piles up. Despite that, I've been generally happy with my ability to not let it go too long before getting it cleared off. It its been a good exercise in self discipline. The back section (what I'd call my desk area) is a bit of a mess right now as it was my dumping ground during the window project. Getting that cleaned up is my goal for this Friday, along with making another pair of charcuterie boards for a family Christmas party on Saturday (nothing like waiting to the last minute).

 

[wreckdiver1321]

Oh man, you have no idea how happy I am to have things back to normal. It was really getting old having to side step the bench each time I walked in the garage.

I've actually made a handful of organization boxes out of 1x6 pine board drops, material supplied by the wood dumpster at work (we make our own oversize pallets and these are drops that get tossed). They have actually turned out to be pretty handy. I've made boxes for my recip saw, jig saw, sander, and also a bunch made for storing odd items. I think what makes them so handy is how I didn't overthink (for once) the construction method - no fancy joints, just pin nails and wood glue. This means if I need to make a box, I can just bang one out quickly and its not a big deal.

That must be super handy. I have an idea for projects like that, my local HD has a scrap wood section full of stuff that was damaged or whatnot when it arrived at the store. It's like $2 a board regardless of size, so I'm considering grabbing a load every so often for that reason. I'd like to make some of those boxes and such.

I do, however, have an infinite supply of milk crates for shop storage. I think I'm going to get a few of those for when I get my cabinets built. Easy, modular organization. We'll see how it all shakes out once I get more moved in.

 

[harley jim]

That wall looks great Brad, it has an old time shop look to it, very nice

 

[bdbecker]

I didn’t get as much done on Friday as I would have hoped, but then again, I often have unrealistic expectations for what can be accomplished in a day, so I guess it’s nothing new. I ended up burning a good part of the morning trying to finish up some last minute Christmas shopping. I then got busy building a couple of charcuterie boards. I only needed one for my family white elephant gift exchange game on Saturday, but since I was going through all the trouble of pulling out the tools, made an extra to give to Wife’s folks. For as simple and cheap (<$20 each) as these are to make, I’m always surprised at how well they are received.

Of all places, Mills Fleet Farm sells 1x12 red oak boards for around $5/bf, which is about as cheap as it gets around here for four side surface finished hardwood. The 2’ lengths are cheaper than buying 4’ or 8’ lengths, so that makes it even easier. Because the ends are rarely square and often chipped or split, I trim off the ends using the crosscut sled on the table saw. I then mark out the hardware locations (drawer/cabinet pulls) and drill holes. Next is finishing - sand all sides, chamfer the top edge with the router, and a then good rubdown with Howard’s Butcher Block Conditioner. In the past, I’ve ebonized the wood using iron acetate (rust vinegar) to darken it to a deep brown. I skipped that step this time around to see how they’d turn out and I personally wasn’t as happy with the result, even though my “customers” didn’t seem to mind.

Once I had the boards wrapped up, I went inside for a mid-afternoon lunch. As I sat down to eat, I saw Santa (aka FedEx) walking up to the front door with my Christmas present. I did not wait to open it…

The planer is a DeWalt 735. In the world of planers, this specific model is pretty popular because it is kind of an in-between model from the less expensive benchtop (aka “lunchbox”) planers, and the larger, much more expensive floor units. Basically, this model has a reputation for packing a lot of punch for the price point. Speaking of price, I was really happy to catch a Black Friday deal on it from Acme Tool. The 735x package (that includes a spare set of blades and the in/out feed tables) and the cart was on sale for $150 off the regular price, and had free shipping. That is about as cheap as I’ve ever seen the kit sell for, so I was pretty happy. As far as the cart is concerned, it’s a surprisingly stout unit, but I’m not sure if the planer will live on there long term or not as I’d like to setup a cart that has integrated dust collection.

I’ve wanted a planer for a while now. In my area, there is no shortage of rough milled hardwood available for very competitive prices. The alternative is buying finished wood at 2x-3x the price. Because I’m still pretty green when it comes to woodworking, so I have a really hard time sinking serious money into materials because I know I’m going to screw something up. I’m hoping having a planer will allow me to take advantage of the cheaper materials available and help me take that next step into working with hardwood.

If I don’t catch you guys before then, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

 

[harley jim]

Nice planer Brad, I'm with you on the money that can be dropped on wood and accessories. I have been planing some pallet lumber to use.

This piece was missing from a project Ive been working on, I used a pallet slat and it matched the rest of the wood.

 

[wreckdiver1321]

Those charcuterie boards are really cool, I've never thought to do those. Maybe I'll have to try that out.

I keep trying to talk myself out of buying a planer. I don't need it, I don't need it, I don't need it.

 

[harley jim]

But the boys might need one.

 

[wreckdiver1321]

But the boys might need one.

JIM!

 

[racer-john]

The best of the season to you.

 

[a_thiel24]

The 735 is a beast. It's the best planer you can get without going to a full floor model IMO. I used mine for a few years and it was awesome. I eventually added a Shelix head as well and it's the bee's knees.

 

[bdbecker]

Nice planer Brad, I'm with you on the money that can be dropped on wood and accessories. I have been planing some pallet lumber to use.
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This piece was missing from a project Ive been working on, I used a pallet slat and it matched the rest of the wood.

That turned out very nice!

No joke on the money side of woodworking. I suppose its just like any other hobby - the nickles and dimes add up fast and you soon realize that buying the expensive piece of equipment was actually the cheapest part of the deal.

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Those charcuterie boards are really cool, I've never thought to do those. Maybe I'll have to try that out.

I keep trying to talk myself out of buying a planer. I don't need it, I don't need it, I don't need it.

Copy away on the boards. I'm sure if I go back far enough in my text message history I'll find the Pinterest screenshot from Wife that I copied the idea from. That's how she submits her orders for items to make - screenshots via text message. I'm currently booked out through 2023, but the good thing is some of those orders will drop out if I wait long enough.

Wife pushed me over the edge on the planer. I've wanted it for awhile, but couldn't justify it in my mind. She told me to buy it for my birthday in August. It took until November and that Black Friday deal for me to commit to it. Within a few hours of submitting the order to Acme, new end tables for the living room were ordered. She'd like them to be made of black walnut. I feel like that is some sort of 4D chess move, but I'm just happy to have the planer to dwell on it too long.

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The best of the season to you.

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The 735 is a beast. It's the best planer you can get without going to a full floor model IMO. I used mine for a few years and it was awesome. I eventually added a Shelix head as well and it's the bee's knees.

Good to hear! I always like hearing from fellow GJ'ers their firsthand experience with tools - you just never know how much to trust an online review. My plan is to eventually upgrade to the Shelix head. I've heard a lot of good things about them as well.

 

[burger]

Hey Brad,

How's the benchtop holding up, now that you've had some time to use it? I love the idea of how heavy duty it is! Anything you'd change about the bench?


Merry Christmas!
Ed

 

[bdbecker]

Hey Brad,

How's the benchtop holding up, now that you've had some time to use it? I love the idea of how heavy duty it is! Anything you'd change about the bench?


Merry Christmas!
Ed

The only thing I'd do different would be to not weld the seam between the two sheets of steel in the middle. Welding the edges warped the material, creating a low spot where the sheets meet. I was able to hammer most of it out, but it's still there and annoying every now and then when I'm trying to make something flat. I did not weld the edges where the "L" part of my bench is and they have sat flush with each other without issue. If anything, I would probably just use some heavy tack welds on the backside to keep them tight together.

Rust has been way less of a problem than I originally expected. I may get a patch of flash rust where I was resting my arm on it while working on something, but I've got a brown Scotch-Brite hand pad that I use with a little PB Blaster to give it a quick buff as needed. I did feel a little awkward asking visitors to use coasters for their drinks at first, but its become a bit of a joke now so its all good.

Otherwise I've been very happy with the dimensions, size, materials, etc. Its nice enough that I want to take care of it, but not so nice that I feel bad using it. The scratches in the steel and chips in the 1x pine are just character.

 

[harley jim]

Merry Christmas To you and the family Brad,

 

[Chrisb62]

Merry Christmas and have a joyous and Happy New Year.

 

[bdbecker]

And just like that, the holiday season is over. No complaints at all, we had a wonderful and relaxing time hanging out with family. Stinker got roller skates and has already put at least a dozen miles on them thanks to the warm weather we’ve had. Smasher got a toy tool box set and a Radio Flyer roadster, so he’s in little boy heaven making laps around the house and stopping to 'fix' his car using his new tools.

We also reshuffled the house over the long New Year weekend. We moved Smasher into the guest bedroom, moved Wife’s home office setup into the nursery, and converted what used to be the home office area into a kids playroom. Wife has a big project with a west coast client starting in a few weeks, which will mean that her work hours will be shifted later in the day. Having her office in an open area was already becoming an issue, so we got her in a room with a door that she can close to help minimize disruptions. Smasher was always going to move into the guest bedroom anyway, so now that the holidays are over, the timing was right. The kids seem to be very happy with their new play area and Wife and I are happy to have the toys out of the living room for the first time in 6+ years. The final phase will be sourcing a pull out sofa to put into my den/office so it can double as a guest room when we have people stay with us. This means I’m going to have to pull ahead my office/den refresh project in the schedule to accommodate the new sofa. The children’s book titled “If You Give a Mouse a Cookie” kept coming to mind as I was disassembling/moving/reassembling furniture over the weekend.

Despite all this, I was able to sneak away for a few hours of QST over the weekend and finally got my garage desk area cleaned up. It always makes me happy to walk into the garage to a clean workbench. I also made a little marker organizer for Stinker out of a chunk of hardwood. She always wants to steal my sharpies to draw while she’s out in the shop, so I got her a set of her own markers to use.

We also had our first real snow of the season. I continue to be surprised (although I shouldn’t be) at how much of a difference having the north wall finished makes in heating up and keeping the shop warm. I was able to raise the temp from 28F to 46F in two hours despite the wind and low temps.

That’s pretty much it for now. I honestly have no idea what the next project is going to be. On one hand, I’d really like to get a storage solution figured out for above the windows, but at the same time, I do need to spend some time getting my office/den sorted out now that we don’t have a guest room. I also want to play with my wood lathe, have some pending orders for projects from Wife, and I really should get my motorcycle back together so I can actually ride it next summer. I’ll probably work on none of those things, but if I do, you can be sure I’ll post about it here.

Until next time…

 

[XJSuperman]

All I have to say today is "BRRRRRR".

 

[jbfab]

All I have to say today is "BRRRRRR".

Agreed! I had -12 this morning!

 

[wreckdiver1321]

Looks like you guys got some of that same arctic blast we had last week. Made for interesting driving situations to be sure.

Sounds like you've got a backlog of interesting stuff to do, can't wait to read all about it.

The little projects and changes are always fun and make you feel good. I did a few of those this weekend. I love that you made your daughter that marker organizer, I really need to get my kids a cool area to hang out in once I stop throwing so many sparks and dust in the workshop. They'll love that kind of thing, I just need to make time to make it happen. Once there's a TV out there life will be easier.

Hope your new year treats you well Brad!

 

[burger]

I spy a Maximus IPA!

I would like to get a thermometer out in my garage so I can quantify how effective (or not) my insulation project has been. 46° sounds like a nice temperature for working. I don't remember what type of heat you're using. Is it the kerosene heater that I see on the shelf in post #1098?

 

[bdbecker]

I spy a Maximus IPA!

I would like to get a thermometer out in my garage so I can quantify how effective (or not) my insulation project has been. 46° sounds like a nice temperature for working. I don't remember what type of heat you're using. Is it the kerosene heater that I see on the shelf in post #1098?

Just a regular Lagunitas IPA... Maximus is not bad, but I just don't have much of a taste for double/imperial IPAs. I like hoppy beer, but I think the heavier finish with doubles and triples just turns me off to them.

I am still using the kerosene heater. It does a great job getting the garage up to temp in fairly short order. I've also found that running my dust filter really helps to circulate the heat throughout the shop. Long term, a thermostat controlled heat source is in the plan, but until then, the kerosene heater fills the need.

 

[nicholam77]

Congrats on the planer! My brother-in-law has that one, I've only used it once but it left a mirror finish on some maple. I'm sure you'll love it!

Smasher got a toy tool box set and a Radio Flyer roadster, so he’s in little boy heaven making laps around the house and stopping to 'fix' his car using his new tools.

That's awesome.

Sounds like you and the family had good holiday. Looking forward to your future projects in 2022!

 

[burger]

I know what you mean about the double IPA’s and the heavy finish. This winter I’ve been more into stouts and porters. Don’t know if you get Brooklyn out there, but I just tried their Chocolate Stout. It’s a 10% and I’m pretty sure you could use it to peel wallpaper and it tastes like it.