The thread of Dimple!! Finally.

[Richard D]

I love Dimple!

Dimple dies are cool too, they are on my tool "wish list".

 

[lehr]

Coffee table, beer brewing system and radiator cover.

 

[michael037]

Richard D
I think you're spot on with that comment!
Michael

 

[laser3kw]

in reference to wear

A good lube to use is something like STP and even Vaseline makes for a good lube

I tend to stay away from petro products. I have had issues with processes down the line that went away when petro was not used. That could be material and process dependent also (FWIW).
Try soap, common liquid dish soap. Works good. Plus it helps keep your hands cleaner.

 

[NASTYZEN]

Great projects guys!
I specially dig that table.
Keep the projects coming, I have a couple in the works. I will post them when I get there.
Thanks for posting your projects guys!

Claude

 

[dbonne]

I think I know what I want for Christmas! Dies!!

 

[KerryH]

Man I want some dies so bad, but I dont *need* them. Ugh lifes decisions!

That table is amazing! So simple and so clean!

 

[Flathead Red]

I also want some dies! I have had the order site open for about three weeks. Just to many other things I have to have.

Red


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[JonnFX]

Here is a project that I was involved with, back in the late 80's. It is a Chevrolet sponsored Unlimited 2 Seat, off-road truck. This was before there was a Trophy Truck class.

I once counted how many dimpled holes there were, but can't seem to remember. Hundreds, anyway.

It was quite the project. Lots of billet parts including the webbed rearend housing (no CNC used and all in-house), custom CV joints with gigantic balls, 500hp V6 engine located between the front of the seats, adjustable suspension spring curves using long torsion bars, with indexable cam link and Kevlar belt link, all 4130 with lots of boxed 0.065" brackets and mounts, and a budget of around half a million dollars (in the 1980's).

 

[21grammesmotorcycles]

Hi nastyzen
All these projects are fabulous
I would like to do such work
But i need your beautifull dies
As i leave in france i didn t manage to buy them with the web link that you give
Will it be possible to have them directly from you i need a complete set
Thank you and sorry for my english

 

[NASTYZEN]

Hi nastyzen
All these projects are fabulous
I would like to do such work
But i need your beautifull dies
As i leave in france i didn t manage to buy them with the web link that you give
Will it be possible to have them directly from you i need a complete set
Thank you and sorry for my english

PM sent.
Joyeuse fêtes!

Claude

 

[NASTYZEN]

Well, members from all over the world have finally cleaned me out of the pipe sized dimple dies! Thanks a lot guys! Hope you've put them to good use.
I have a bunch of standard sized kits as well as the individual over sized ones left for now.
Guess I'll have to start thinking about machining the second batch soon..

 

[freedomgli]

I don't carry a lot of standard hardware in my toolbox and I had to run to a few hardware stores to get what I needed. So in case anyone else is wondering what thread bolt to use for these dimple dies (since it's not published on the club virages page) this is what I found:

0.5 standard = 7/16"-20 UNF
0.75 standard = 7/16"-20 UNF
1.0 standard = 3/4"-16 UNF
1.25 standard = 3/4"-16 UNF

Because most bolts long enough to get the job done aren't fully threaded, I think using a threaded rod with washers and nuts on both ends might work better than bolts. Actually, I wonder if there will be too much friction to form .065" aluminum using the bolt threads. Time will tell as I haven't really had much chance to play with them yet but I may have to resort to using a press.

 

[NASTYZEN]

Thank's for your input Freedomgli.

I went back and fixed all the huge pictures I could in this thread. I hope all the pics I have on Image shack that are posted on other threads here didn't suddenly go huge everywhere.WTF

Sorry for the inconvenience.....

Any how, here's a quicky mod on a foot plate I made for a rally car guy.



For all the guys waiting on the next batch of DD's Don't worry, I'm soon getting to them. I have a pyramid of blanks on a buggy just waiting for me to machine them.......just gotta get some Porsche bits done first

 

[makgreens]

definitely want a set whenever you finish em!

 

[Flathead Red]

Me too


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[JZHeyde]

I am in for a set as well. Let us know!

 

[-Brent-]

There's some nice dimples on my Ionia Hot Rod 32 Chassis.



I really want to get a set of dies. There's a lot I could do with them.

 

[vagabondmidget]

More Porsche bits!! (can't pull the trigger on dies yet...)

 

[freedomgli]

I just realized the bottom die is not threaded all the way through. How are you supposed to fixture the bottom die to keep it from turning while you turn the bolt to draw the two dies together? I would have thought if not using a press and doing it by hand that it would be preferable to be able to run the bolt all the way through the die and then put a nut and washer on the back side so you could use two wrenches to tighten the joint and squeeze the two halves together. Am I missing something here?

 

[NASTYZEN]

From the web site.

How do they work?

First, make a hole saw hole of a matching Die size, taking care to de- bur the edges of the hole. Next, after having lightly oiled both Die contact surfaces, insert the top Die ( male end) into the sheet hole then into bottom Die (female end) thereby sandwiching the sheet between the two. Secondly, set the assembly onto a flat surface in a shop press and apply gentle pressure until both dies lay firmly against the surface sheet. Lastly remove the Dies from the hole and a dimpled edge should now have been applied. Be careful not to apply excessive force or you may ( print ) the shape of the Die into your project!

Many hobbyist will not have access to a shop press, also as some projects will not leave us the space needed to use a press. For this reason, there is a threaded hole to bolt the Dies to a hydraulic Punch Driver. Or using a standard bolt with a washers under both head and nut. ( oil is your friend here too) Washers will limit the scoring to the Dies. As with a press, draw both Dies together until they lay firmly against the sheet surface to apply the dimple.



I will look into proper bolt lengths to use and ether confirm what has already been posted and make a change to the web site when I get there...
Totally busy right now..

 

[freedomgli]

Thanks for the writeup but it doesn't fully explain the issue I'm having.

This is how the dimple dies arrived to me. You can see the male die is not fully threaded.


The partially threaded hole might work fine for a hydraulic knockout punch tool. The threaded hole doesn't even come into play when using a shop press (except perhaps for assistance in separating the two dies if stuck together?). But I don't have either one of those. For the time being, I'm stuck using the old fashioned bolt method. With the hole only partially threaded then the only way to insert a bolt is through the female die and into the male die. This requires a bolt that is the correct length. It also requires you somehow fixture the male die so that it doesn't turn as you turn the bolt to draw the two halves together.

What I decided to do instead was to run a tap all the way through the hole so that it is fully threaded.


This allows me to insert the bolt through the male die first and then through the hole in the female die. Then I put a washer and nut on the end and now I can use two wrenches to draw the two dies together.


Finished 0.5 dimple die tool:
1x Medium-Strength Zinc-Plated Steel Cap Screw - Grade 5, 7/16"-20 Fully Threaded, 4" Long (McMaster-Carr 92865A326)
2x 7/16" washers
1x 7/16"-20 nut


Finished 1.0 dimple die tool
1x High-Strength Steel Cap Screw - Grade 8, 3/4"-16 Fully Threaded, 4" Long, Zinc-Plated (McMaster-Carr 92620A877)
2x 3/4" washers
1x 3/4"-16 nut

 

[freedomgli]

My first project using the dimple dies. Fabricated an aluminum exhaust hanger. 1/16" aluminum sheet folded over on itself to create a soft edge to protect the rider. Dimpled holes reduce weight and restore strength. Rivets also help strengthen the piece. Rubber lined p-clamps secure the bracket to the frame yet allow some slight movement and dampen vibration. I have no idea how this will work in practice but fingers crossed! Just need to safety wire the bracket hardware, add spring hooks for joint from mid-pipe to rear slip-on muffler section and then shorten the muffler canister and baffle about 6".







The dies dimpled worked effortlessly and make me curious how much thicker I could go. Thanks for making such an economical tool for us!

 

[bowseruni]

pm sent nastyzen

 

[NASTYZEN]

pm sent nastyzen

Pm right back at you.

 

[American]

A link to the website to buy? Searched pages of both threads...nada.

 

[NASTYZEN]

Nice exhaust brkt freedomgli.

I had the opportunity to do some testing using threaded rod to draw the dies together. I'll post up my findings when I get another break.

 

[DarkMonohue]

A link to the website to buy? Searched pages of both threads...nada.

We're looking for a set as well. How/where to buy?

 

[NASTYZEN]

I took the link down a while back when I ran out of Dies.
There seems to be a great demand for these lately!

Here's a sneak peak guys. I'll be spinning many DD's as soon as I finish my prior engagements, have no fear.

 

[DarkMonohue]

I took the link down a while back when I ran out of Dies.

Crud! Thanks for the rapid response, but we need some pretty quickly for a project we are working on right now. Sorry about our bad timing.

 

[cdrewferd]

Hoping I can pickup a set when you're done with them. Think they'll work on 3/16 plate?

 

[McLean]

here's a few of my projects w/ some dimples:
(excuse the welds, the first pic was my first tig project)

 

[orange02ss]

Message me when they are ready

 

[Dr.phil]

me too!!!!

 

[bulletpruf]

From the roll cage of my 71 Javelin road race project.

 

[95riosnake]

I'd definitely be in for some dimple dies, I'll subscribe to this thread and keep my wallet ready

 

[christianlopez]

let me know when these are available to order! they look awesome!

 

[95riosnake]

Any progress on these? Still ready to buy

 

[NASTYZEN]

There is a glimmer of hope....



I'm truly sorry things are taking so long.....

It has just been one thing after an other this year! I have been flirting with burnout and have to balance how I handle my life a little better.
There's always the Must do's. I've had machines breaking down.
The house needed re shingling...the shop roof needed mending..winterize everything...put up the winter tempo's..
and the big one......LIFE and all the dammed drama.

I guess I better leave it at that!

Now, onto these .

 

[liquidmx]

Sorry to hear about the drama, keep you head up NastyZen!

I will be hear patiently waiting; just let me know when they are ready. I would rather support American made garage journal'er than a mail order place.