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Here's a sweet little Porto Power set-up, looks like it just needs a little cleaning:

To far away for me, hope somebody here can get it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Bla...819?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d038f1a4b

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I wonder if there is an appropriate vintage "Torkflash" wrench in that seemingly random positioned bakelite case?
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Thats sweet^.

someone beat me out of a nice old set of Blackhawk tools at auction yesterday, maybe they will post up their score. it was a great deal imo, definitely a you **** coming to them.
 

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Blackhawk tools are very rare out this way, I've got only a few:

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In the 80's the New Britain stuff was sold at Grainger and that is easier to find if so inclined.
 

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Blackhawk tools are very rare out this way, I've got only a few:


Nice collection Mickey!! I find the open head ratchet interesting as I haven't seen this style in an older Blackhawk. Is there a model number on it?
 

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Here is my old Blackhawk torque wrench (which still works), and a screwdriver and visegrips that I bought in 1970.

I recently got one of these torque indicators, it is dead on accurate, and holds it reading if tightening, the dial don't move if loosening. Is mine messed up? or is there a process to reverse it? Knowing the torque of old things taken apart could be very useful to me.
 

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I'm going to have to post pictures of my collection later I'll leave this one so I remember. ImageUploadedByTapatalk1375995488.665125.jpg


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Its awesome to see all the old Blackhawk tools here! I wish I had some of the older ones! The core of my tool set is Blackhawk made in 1990 or '91, not sure. I use em all day, every day...damn good tools!!
 

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Very cool! Growing up my dad had a old sears jack that Blackhawk made? I liked it so much I bought him a new floor jack and stole his! It has a great valve in it that smooth and easy to control and big flat pad on it. Has anyone seen these or have any info on Blackhawk jacks under the sears name?
 

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Nuggies.

1947 catalog pics.

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Blackhawk 1/4" "Nuggies" bakelite box.

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I believe these are the original pieces that make up this 10ND set. They are all cad plated with a 1945 date code.

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And here's the set with a few extras I've added.

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1953 catalog pics. Looks like they've changed things up a bit with all 6 point sockets and different part numbers.

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Nice stuff crtdi! That's the first completed 1/4 blackhawk set I've seen.


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Here is some more of my collection.
Pictures of my DBE blackhawk set almost complete.
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7/16-1 1/4 socket set no skips.
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Very nice collection! Great looking wrenches also. I don't think I've ever seen so many freewheeling ratchets together in one spot....:thumbup:
 

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Blackhawk tools!

My god! Where do you start!

My Grandfather worked on heavy goods vehicles in the U.K. from the 1920's right through to the 1950's! He loved tools (he'd have fitted in well here) particularly American tools, particularly Blackhawk!

Back then, a lot of work was done with ordinary wrenches, and to be fair, vehicle makers bore that in mind! But, a set of interchangeable socket wrenches was still a big advantage!

Such things had been made in the U.K. since victorian times, and the most prolific in the U.K. were the Britool range, but... although they used a 7/16 hex drive, the overall size of the tools was something like 3/8 drive today! Fine for fixing machines or cars, but not so good for trucks!

If you were serious, you got hold of some U.S. made tools in 1/2 inch drive!

I'm not sure if my Grandfather developed a liking for U.S. tools first, then sought out the Blackhawk, or got some Blackhawk, and then wanted a load more U.S. made tools! Either way, he was of the opinion that Blackhawk tools were the finest ever made. Two generations on and I've pretty much reached the same opinion!

Firstly, they were innovative. Much of what we take today to be the standard in socket wrenches was a Blackhawk innovation. In fact, there were many innovations that are sometimes hard to find now! The "lock on" socket for example, a sliding T with a detent half way, extensions with a free turning sleeve to grip, breaker bars that can be extended, speed braces with a free turning sleeve for both hands... Where do I stop?

Secondly, they were quality! The items in the picture that follow have all had about 30 years of serious daily use by my grandfather, 20 years of part time use by my father, and another 20 years of occasional use by myself! Only now am I starting to pension them off, and that's only because they are the nearest thing to an heirloom my family owns! The sockets are still good, as is the chrome plating! Awesome.

I got educated in the virtues of Blackhawk at an early age, and even then I could see it was superior to a lot of what was around! That's an influential age, and when I see the pictures of Blackhawk tools on this thread it's like coming home!

Even now, Blackhawk still turns up in the U.K. A couple of years back an old guy in my village told me he was clearing out some of his older stuff where he had "doubled up" and did I want any! There was an old box of Blackhawk amongst it that I had to force him to take £20 for! All A/F sizes, well used but still well usable!

Anyway, here are a few pictures I took for another thread!

I'll leave you all with this thought. Isn't it strange, that an old guy from a country a couple of thousand miles away, can develop loyalty to a product he takes to his grave. Yet, the managers responsible for that product, elect to trash the brand for a few short term bucks! Funny old world!
 

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Very nice collection! Great looking wrenches also. I don't think I've ever seen so many freewheeling ratchets together in one spot....:thumbup:

Thank you and I've been collecting for a year how long have you?


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I bought a small Plomb "Cub" box a few weeks ago and it contained some old Blackhawk "Arrowhead" marked sockets. If anybody is missing one in a collection, let me know and ill see if i can find it. Its not going to do me any good sitting in the garage.
 
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Blackhawk tools!

My god! Where do you start!

My Grandfather worked on heavy goods vehicles in the U.K. from the 1920's right through to the 1950's! He loved tools (he'd have fitted in well here) particularly American tools, particularly Blackhawk!

Back then, a lot of work was done with ordinary wrenches, and to be fair, vehicle makers bore that in mind! But, a set of interchangeable socket wrenches was still a big advantage!

Such things had been made in the U.K. since victorian times, and the most prolific in the U.K. were the Britool range, but... although they used a 7/16 hex drive, the overall size of the tools was something like 3/8 drive today! Fine for fixing machines or cars, but not so good for trucks!

If you were serious, you got hold of some U.S. made tools in 1/2 inch drive!

I'm not sure if my Grandfather developed a liking for U.S. tools first, then sought out the Blackhawk, or got some Blackhawk, and then wanted a load more U.S. made tools! Either way, he was of the opinion that Blackhawk tools were the finest ever made. Two generations on and I've pretty much reached the same opinion!

Firstly, they were innovative. Much of what we take today to be the standard in socket wrenches was a Blackhawk innovation. In fact, there were many innovations that are sometimes hard to find now! The "lock on" socket for example, a sliding T with a detent half way, extensions with a free turning sleeve to grip, breaker bars that can be extended, speed braces with a free turning sleeve for both hands... Where do I stop?

Secondly, they were quality! The items in the picture that follow have all had about 30 years of serious daily use by my grandfather, 20 years of part time use by my father, and another 20 years of occasional use by myself! Only now am I starting to pension them off, and that's only because they are the nearest thing to an heirloom my family owns! The sockets are still good, as is the chrome plating! Awesome.

I got educated in the virtues of Blackhawk at an early age, and even then I could see it was superior to a lot of what was around! That's an influential age, and when I see the pictures of Blackhawk tools on this thread it's like coming home!

Even now, Blackhawk still turns up in the U.K. A couple of years back an old guy in my village told me he was clearing out some of his older stuff where he had "doubled up" and did I want any! There was an old box of Blackhawk amongst it that I had to force him to take £20 for! All A/F sizes, well used but still well usable!

Anyway, here are a few pictures I took for another thread!

I'll leave you all with this thought. Isn't it strange, that an old guy from a country a couple of thousand miles away, can develop loyalty to a product he takes to his grave. Yet, the managers responsible for that product, elect to trash the brand for a few short term bucks! Funny old world!

Great post! Nice looking and obviously appreciated set. Do you remember if there was ever a ratchet?

Thank you and I've been collecting for a year how long have you?

Probably about three years. My collection started with hydraulic jacks and has now morphed over into an obsession for hand tools.

As Dave said, Blackhawk was a very innovative company. They made so much cool stuff that it's becoming hard for me to focus in one particular area....:willy_nil
 

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Great post! Nice looking and obviously appreciated set. Do you remember if there was ever a ratchet?l

There was originally, but it got worn out years back, and I never saw it!

Grandfather replaced it with a Williams that came over as part of 'lend-lease' (Thank you very much, by the way, citizens of the U.S.A) which I still have! Good tools, but war spec so not plated!

The small box of Blackhawk I bought recently included a ratchet, but all the tools are of a different style to my Grandfathers, and I suspect that includes the ratchet!
 

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Blackhawk tools!

I'll leave you all with this thought. Isn't it strange, that an old guy from a country a couple of thousand miles away, can develop loyalty to a product he takes to his grave. Yet, the managers responsible for that product, elect to trash the brand for a few short term bucks! Funny old world!

Probably one of the best quotes I've ever read.
 

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man i'm glad this thread came back up. i've been trying for a 1/2 year to figure out what brand my bottom cabinet is. page 1 post #9 of this thead is the top chest that goes to mine.

ill post pix when i get home tonight
 
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sorry pix are blurry. got this this spring off CL about 45 minutes away. the guy said it was his granpas and was probably 1940s. i didn't believe him at the time, but now i think he might be right.
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since i dought i'll ever find the proper top chest to fit it i just might refinish it and use it to store vintage retired tools.
i do have at least a vintage Blackhawk ratchet.
i also have a great ratchet/socket set(not so vintage) that i bought off the tool truck maybe 15 years ago. i love that set and still use it often
 

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sorry pix are blurry. got this this spring off CL about 45 minutes away. the guy said it was his granpas and was probably 1940s. i didn't believe him at the time, but now i think he might be right.

since i dought i'll ever find the proper top chest to fit it i just might refinish it and use it to store vintage retired tools.
i do have at least a vintage Blackhawk ratchet.
i also have a great ratchet/socket set(not so vintage) that i bought off the tool truck maybe 15 years ago. i love that set and still use it often


Thanks for posting pics.....we need to see your ratchet too!

The bottom boxes seem to be especially scarce. I think I've seen your style before, but I can't I.D. it. I'm also thinking that it may not be a Blackhawk.

It should look similar to one of the boxes in this thread:

http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=122290&highlight=blackhawk+tool+box

I would suggest posting some clear pics in this thread to get a proper I.D. on it:

http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49743&highlight=blackhawk
 

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yeah, i did that on. PG 80
check out post #1594 & 1598


Those two front chrome strips on the front of your box, got me to thinking that I have seen them before. Being that it does not have drawers, I thought it might be an old Sun equipment cabinet but, after looking around a bit I couldn't find any matches.

I did look at your previous posts, and the link to the Hamb thread. The two posts with the same lower box as yours, both definitely have Blackhawk top boxes on them and both of these box sets take on the appearance that they have been together as a sets for a good long while.

The top boxes date after the mid '30s due to the lack of a drop down front.

In looking at some old catalogs, I cannot find any lower boxes with the chrome strips or without drawers. Some overall designs appear similar but not exact.

I do however, believe now, that you have come to the correct conclusion, that this is most likely a Blackhawk piece...:beer:
 

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CRTDI,

This current eBay ad, for an incomplete (22-piece) 32-CD set, answers some questions we had about what a "two-tone crackle finish" (1931 catalog reference) looks like... I never would've suspected red and black with the coppery interiors of these black satin sets, but then again, red is a favorite Blackhawk case/box color, so I suppose I shouldn't be surprised...

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CRTDI,
This current eBay ad, for an incomplete (22-piece) 32-CD set, answers some questions we had about what a "two-tone crackle finish" (1931 catalog reference) looks like... I never would've suspected red and black with the coppery interiors of these black satin sets, but then again, red is a favorite Blackhawk case/box color, so I suppose I shouldn't be surprised...

It does seem to be a bit of an odd interior/exterior combination, but I do remember seeing an ad for these sets offering a finish in red and I think yellow as well.

This original crackling affect has an overall smooth and even appearance. Do you think this could be easily replicated?
 

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This original crackling affect has an overall smooth and even appearance. Do you think this could be easily replicated?

Britool boxes made in the U.K. up till the 1970's had a similar finish!

There was, in fact still is, a firm called Trimate who manufacture paints primarily for the motor trade, who make a variety of 'crinkle finish' and 'crackle finish' paints! I'm sure something similar could be obtained!

Used some to refinish a dashboard a while back and it worked really well, just spray on then blast it with a hair dryer! Durable too!
 

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If I've said it once I've said it 1000 times, 50's-60's Blackhawk and New Britain were the sharpest looking tools ever made. It makes me wonder why anyone in the market at that time bought anything else.
 

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It does seem to be a bit of an odd interior/exterior combination, but I do remember seeing an ad for these sets offering a finish in red and I think yellow as well.

My next resto project is an 18-CD black satin set with a very well preserved origial decal on the inner lid of the attache style case. The interior is yellow. I was thinking of doing a black-and-yellow two-tone crackle exterior. (A Steelers fan who happens to be a Blackhawk junkie might appreciate it...)

This original crackling affect has an overall smooth and even appearance. Do you think this could be easily replicated?

I like to think I achieved that appearance (helped along with liberal final coats of clear lacquer) with my first project, which can be seen here:
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Other photos here: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=154765

My primary concern is that spoltched look. As you know I was flying blind with no photos of th eouter case. I like my results, which were achieved with long brush strokes of black paint over the crackling compound (I used Elmer's glue) over the gold undercoat, but it's obvious that the factory used some kind of sponge or something and that it was dabbed, not brushed. I'm not sure how to replicate that.

I'll post pictures when I have this set done.
 
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^^^^^^Looking forward to seeing your next project.

Thanks.

For the "before" picture, here's what I'm starting with this time...

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Thanks to a fellow Blackhawk collector here on GJ, I acquired the spark plug sockets and one of the hex sockets.

I still need the following:
- T4 Sliding Tee
- T15 Crank Speeder
- 13/16 hex socket (will be marked "BLACKHAWK" over "MADE IN U.S.A." with the size "19/32" to the right, and it may or may not have "26" to the left of all that)

This 18-A set has much more black satin residue remaining on the tools than the 32-CD set had. You can see where the various tools were stored inside the attache style case by where the finish has been rubbed and worn off of the inside of the lid, sparing the decal, fortunately.

With respect to finishes, I have to take back what I said earlier. I just found an ad for an 18-AD QD set that said it had a "red and black mottled" case. That perfectly describes the 32-CD set just sold on eBay, so we still don't have a photo of what "two-toned crackle" looks like. It also means that these finishes were interchangeable across sets.
 

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very close. no serial # hole is a little more rounded and the teeth on the shaft are opposite.

The wear on that is pretty cool, lots of history in that one little key. Looks like mine had a pretty posh life in comparison.
 

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I have some updated pictures of my collection to add to the thread. Changes are the box which I picked up from a member on here and some sockets as well. I'm only missing some lock on sockets a extension and speed handle to complete my 1/2 dr set as a side note.
The box contains
4 1/2 dr freewheelers
1 3/8 dr freewheel
1 3/8 dr bald head
1 1/2 drive ratchet
1 1/2 drive breaker bar
1 1/2 drive T-handle
1 1/4-7/16 socket set
3/8-1in double boxed end wrench set
1 handle extension bar
And other misc.
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