The vintage Blackhawk Thread

[thehorse13]

Where do you see 15XX series 1/4-inch drive sockets listed in the 1937 catalog, horse? What page?

Look on page 19 of the 1937 catalog near the top and you should see both. I probably should have mentioned that the 1/4 inchers were introduced in 35 but I knew that the lock on set was 37 for sure. I have the entire set.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

?? There are no 15xx sockets listed at the top of page 19 or anywhere else in the 1937 catalog I am looking at. Please post a scan of the whole page of the catalog you have. Or are you talking about the figure? That single figure of a socket is labeled "No. 21006 series". You can't ignore the title of the figure. And you can't ignore the list - by model numbers 21006 through 21014 - of 12 point 1/4 sockets offered in that catalog, by size and price. There are no 15xx sockets listed/offered. EDIT: See post above for more detailed explanation.

 

[thehorse13]

Yea, it's just the figure. I posted a scan of the page but for some reason it didn't attach it as a thumbnail like it normally does.

Anyhow, both sets are pre 38 like the OP suspected from the start.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Anyhow, both sets are pre 38 like the OP suspected from the start.

That's true, but he also wondered if one set was older than the other, and he's right about that, too. There were no 21xxx sockets in 1935. And there were no 15xx sockets in 1937.

Nice finds either way!!

 

[Oldtuleguy]

I was happy to find them. I come across very little blackhawk midget stuff, so two sets in one box kind of surprised me.

 

[thehorse13]

I'd call you lucky for sure. I haven't come across any quantity of Blackhawk stuff since that treasure chest a while back.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

But that chest was a five year alottment's worth of Blackhawk!

 

[thehorse13]

Yea I agree. I may have hit my allotment of luck for awhile. Twertsy has a baldie ratchet to donate to the chest though. At least I will have that sometime next week. lol

 

[twertsy]

Yea I agree. I may have hit my allotment of luck for awhile. Twertsy has a baldie ratchet to donate to the chest though. At least I will have that sometime next week. lol

Thanks for reminding me. I got a new car and it needs to be put in there.....

Sent from my VS990 using Tapatalk

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I got a new car and it needs to be put in there.....

Damn. What kind of blackmail dirt does Horse have on you? A baldie and a new car??!! I really need to up my bargaining game!

 

[thehorse13]

Keep in mind that I have been to the Twertsy Tool Temple and know all of the secrets within. lol

 

[B17E1943]

I went through about 1/2 of this thread and didn't see one of these, it's a one end frame lift. I've owned it for about 30 years. The pics are old, I could get better ones when it's light out.

Can't read your model #, but I have a similar one - a "Service Chief" SJ-25.

 

[Moe_Hushlin]

Haven't been able to find another example of this wrench on the bay of e, or anywhere else for that matter. I had to have it once I laid eyes on it that cloudy Sunday afternoon. It's a Blackhawk 8 Point 1/2 x 7/16 Double Box End Wrench #4016. Any input is greatly appreciated!

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T377A using Tapatalk

 

[Moe_Hushlin]

Forgot to add this excerpt from the old catalog. I did try!

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T377A using Tapatalk

 

[notlob]

I have the same wrench by Bonney; I believe other brands made that specific wrench as well.

 

[bigb56]

Can't read your model #, but I have a similar one - a "Service Chief" SJ-25.

Mine is identical to yours. No decal as it has been painted gray. Mine is missing the ball on top of the release lever. I have not found a lot of use for it except for receiver hitch installation, and once I used it to lower a heavy drill press from my truck bed.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Yea I agree. I may have hit my allotment of luck for awhile. Twertsy has a baldie ratchet to donate to the chest though. At least I will have that sometime next week. lol

I have been collecting stuff for my treasure chest. Found some stuff just not sure it's all from the right year

 

[four.cycle]

I believe other brands made that specific wrench as well.

Yes, and they seem to be far more common than one would think, going by the number of them appearing on Ebay.

 

[Ole Slewfoot]

Found an 016 at the flea, 1/2" square on both ends, a little loose on my Milwaukee gun.
1925ish to hear AA tell it. I wasn't able to discern any paint or coating.

 

[Moe_Hushlin]

Yes, and they seem to be far more common than one would think, going by the number of them appearing on Ebay.

I forgot to post my update, I was using the wrong search criteria. Ford brake wrench was the correct answer. I was just searching Blackhawk 0416 ford brake adjustment tool, or something similar. Thanks everyone for the helpful input!

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T377A using Tapatalk

 

[four.cycle]

^ better results on ebay with broader search parameters. downside is that you have to scroll through a lot of stuff you're not looking for.

if you're looking for something here, sometimes it works much better to search with Google and add the site name, i.e.:

Ford brake wrench garagejournal.com

 

[Moe_Hushlin]

^ better results on ebay with broader search parameters. downside is that you have to scroll through a lot of stuff you're not looking for.

if you're looking for something here, sometimes it works much better to search with Google and add the site name, i.e.:

Ford brake wrench garagejournal.com

Thanks for the tip! The Google search seems more practical rather than the wonderful search function...which displays 6489 results that match my query it seems, lol.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T377A using Tapatalk

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Here is the current progress on my treasure chest. I think the 1/2" sockets are I little early for it, but when hunting for old blackhawk stuff you can't afford be too choosy.

 

[crankshaftdan II]

Here is the current progress on my treasure chest. I think the 1/2" sockets are I little early for it, but when hunting for old blackhawk stuff you can't afford be too choosy.

OTG--Very nice stuff you have there-mostly hard to find items here as this is where they started and not much found at the local sales. Usually find one or two items at a time-piecemeal!

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Yes the pickings are slim

 

[dodge610]

Vintage blackhawk box I got last summer for $8.00 at a garage/moving sale.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[BULLITT65]

Just found this ad for an aluminum blackhawk S-4:
https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/tls/d/blackhawk-4-ton-floor-jack/6510653117.html

$150 not to bad, has the light, but the handle is cracked.

 

[BULLITT65]

Here is what mine looks like after I cleaned it up

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Vintage blackhawk box I got last summer for $8.00 at a garage/moving sale.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I think you get a u **** on that one

 

[crankshaftdan II]

I think you get a u **** on that one

Times 2---What does it look like since you got it home and cleaned up???

 

[dodge610]

Times 2---What does it look like since you got it home and cleaned up???

Unfortunely work has been crazy and still sitting going to clean it up this spring when it warms up

 

[crankshaftdan II]

Unfortunely work has been crazy and still sitting going to clean it up this spring when it warms up

Don't forget us peoples here as we like lots of before and after Pics!!

 

[Craftsman C-series]

Oldtuleguy, that is one hell of a Blackhawk set you got there. Thanks for posting it so we can only dream of finding one ourselves.

 

[four.cycle]

here's a fabulous set just sitting and waiting for a new owner:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/AMAZING-VI...-SET-COMPLETE-WITH-ORIGINAL-CASE/312082928557

 

[Oldtuleguy]

I saw that. Very nice.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

here's a fabulous set just sitting and waiting for a new owner.

I know I sound like a broken record on this point, but Blackhawk doesn't get enough credit for its design principles, which were extraordinary for such an early era. No better example than the handle on these early attache style cases. They could've put anything on there. But they chose to use the same rotating grip they use on the handles on the tools inside. That is attention to detail, a desire to marry form and function, and a conscious style decision.

I do wonder why the decal on this set doesn't have a set number. As any Q.D. collector knows, the set model number is the number of pieces in the set. To wit, a No. 18-A set had eighteen (18) pieces, a No. 32-CD set had thirty-two (32) pieces, etc. And they were put on a flying folded banner like decal just underneath the brand decal. And that case and decal is in such excellent condition, it’s unlikely to have come off. It looks like it never had one.

It's only the second set I have seen without one. The first was just posted at the end of my old GJ Q.D. 32-CD restoration thread, page 2, post #26, linked here.

At first I thought it might’ve been an early set, before they came in different sizes. But that rotating grip wasn’t patented until 1926, and they were already using four different set numbers for four different set configurations in the 1926 Catalog.

EDIT: Disregard last comment about the set at the end of my resto thread not having a set number decal. It does. Very faint. No. 32-C.

 

[CRTDI]

Here is the current progress on my treasure chest. I think the 1/2" sockets are I little early for it, but when hunting for old blackhawk stuff you can't afford be too choosy.

Very nice collection.. The ratchet in your pics is a fairly desirable late 40s to 50s style.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Yes I had so I threw it in there

 

[twertsy]

My "Blackhawk Area" of the shop.

Sent from my VS990 using Tapatalk

 

[Oldtuleguy]

No wonder Its rare, twertsy has all of it!