The vintage Blackhawk Thread

[don long]

I just received this torpedo nugget set today.



Now I have 2 sets. One for the tool box and one for this display board that I am creating

(the clutter behind the tool box is my wife's internet business in full production)

 

[Username already in use]

I just received this torpedo nugget set today.

Beautiful. Not 1, but you have 2! We’ll done sir.

 

[don long]

Beautiful. Not 1, but you have 2! We’ll done sir.

Yep
And it looks like the P.O. cleaned up the torpedo, painted it and added new decals
But he missed the wheels so I guess I will have to polish them up and add a brass screw.

 

[thehorse13]

Now I know who bought this box and set.

 

[930dreamer]

Very nice find.

 

[don long]

Now I know who bought this box and set.

Yep Horse
It came out of Pa. and I had to have it

Very nice find.

Thanks Dreamer

 

[thehorse13]

Yep Horse
It came out of Pa. and I had to have it

Ah. This was that project you mentioned out near Pittsburgh.

The decals on your new box came from Jim's Engine Decals. He reproduces a lot of the Blackhawk stuff and sells them on Ebay. I have one for my CB box from him.

 

[don long]

Ah. This was that project you mentioned out near Pittsburgh.

The decals on your new box came from Jim's Engine Decals. He reproduces a lot of the Blackhawk stuff and sells them on Ebay. I have one for my CB box from him.

No the pieces I have in Pa. are still there, But I have solved the problem and they will be on there way to me when the weather breaks
They are 2 Bear headlamp adjuster stands. I didn't want to mention what I had until I solved the shipping problem and bought the pieces.

 

[Dieselclunker]

If you follow the examples of authentic antique advertisement in your party garage, I'd say that you're going to want to go with painted metal. That would be most consistent with era correct advertising.

If I had to guess what was used to keep sockets on a vertical display it would be something like your modern socket organizer clips. The trick is, how do you find a 7/16th socket clip? I figure that you have the right gear to make your own though.

Hey , .4375 aluminum square bar stock works well !

 

[Dieselclunker]

So today I found myself between projects so I decided to tackle the Nugget display.
I gathered all my nugget tools and started laying them out as the display shows.



It works out that the black circle is 24" in diameter with 1 inch cut off the bottom for the block base.
Now the question is, what is this display made out of?? How are the tools fastened to the back piece??

Any ideas are most welcome

Don

Hey, .4375 aluminum square bar stock works fine !

 

[Dieselclunker]

Nugget tool ratchets and swivels

 

[four.cycle]

1974 Blackhawk Tool Catalog No. 227B now available at International Tool Catalog Library! *

* this copy of Blackhawk catalog No. 227B is missing pages 45, 46, 47, and 48 *

 

[Ricky Joe]

Nugget tool ratchets and swivels

Is that 3/8” drive or 7/16” drive?

 

[Dieselclunker]

7/16 th .4375

 

[Username already in use]

I found a few old Blackhawk 8XX series sockets at the flea this past weekend. One, then another and another. I kept searching for a few minutes, hoping to find more, but three was all there were. Happy to find this trio.
#s 812, 818, 820

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Some rare sockets. I have an 810, 18 and 20.

 

[Dieselclunker]

This set is laying around collecting dust !

 

[JjKk40]

This set is laying around collecting dust !

Wow you have some of the nicest sets I've seen!

 

[don long]

I'd be willing to take it off your hands

 

[Dieselclunker]

My problem is I keep finding stuff tucked away everywhere

 

[Dieselclunker]

I'd be willing to take it off your hands

What's that worth....

 

[Dieselclunker]

Wow you have some of the nicest sets I've seen!

thank you

 

[don long]

What's that worth....

Don't know for sure. Thinking low 3 digits

 

[humber2]

Can I get an image of a Catalog page for an Ignition set from the 1930's please?

 

[four.cycle]

1935 Blackhawk tool catalog No. 235 pp 38 - ignition wrenches and sets

* all kinds of Blackhawk tool catalogs available for download at International Tool Catalog Library

 

[four.cycle]

1931 Blackhawk catalog No. MG100 pp 12 Ignition wrenches

* The 1938 and 1939 and 1940 Blackhawk catalogs (that I currently have) show the same set that appears in the 1935 catalog (shown in the post just above.)

 

[humber2]

That confirms I have all pieces E2 thru E11 from Blackhawk-Armstrong in a rectangular wallet along with other unmarked oddities.

Images will follow later midweek. Thanks.

 

[jabberwoki]

grabbed this one today, Military?

 

[four.cycle]

That confirms I have all pieces E2 thru E11 from Blackhawk-Armstrong in a rectangular wallet along with other unmarked oddities.

I see all kinds of old ignition wrench/magneto wrench sets on ebay that have "extras" jammed into them from a previous owner. Broken-off point files seem to be a favorite, along with the obligatory needle file.

Something occurred to me while I was driving up to the airport and back:
Why was Blackhawk still producing those odd "Magneto Wrench" models long after most other domestic tool manufacturers had gone from "Magneto Wrench Sets" to "Ignition Wrench Sets" in which the wrenches were marked with sizes (as opposed to being stamped with the name of the magneto manufacturer?) (That E9 is a real screwball.)
Is it just my skewed perception? Or was Blackhawk a late bloomer in the "Ignition Wrench Set" department?

 

[Oldtuleguy]

I have seen a number of those sets, usually bonney. I am sure many companies sold them. Would love to see a blackhawk set!

 

[four.cycle]

^ So..... Bonney was still making those oddball "Magneto Wrenches" as late as 1940 ? I will have to check out some catalogs. Thanks.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Is it just my skewed perception? Or was Blackhawk a late bloomer in the "Ignition Wrench Set" department?

Blackhawk was a late (and maybe never) bloomer in any open wrench department, not just midget wrenches. They never showed much interest in making open or box end wrenches. Hence the partnership with Armstrong.

Bonney was still making those oddball "Magneto Wrenches" as late as 1940 ?

1941 is the last Bonney catalog they appear in. Note that it was in addition to (not instead of) miniature wrenches in standard engineers, electrical and ignition configurations. It looks like they transitioned around the same time as everyone else in industry, but kept making the older style in parallel as well for a few years.

I have to be honest and say I never noticed these Blackhawk-Armstrong versions before. The sets are identical in every way to the Bonney versions, including the model numbers, and even the shape and type of pouch, and it's possible one was making them for the other, or a third party was involved.

 

[Dieselclunker]

Hey, does anyone know if New Britain Machine made 7/16 drive Blackhawk tools for sure ?

 

[four.cycle]

"Blackhawk was a late ..."

Thanks. Interesting stuff. You do know, of course, that I know virtually nothing about Bonney, Armstrong, or Blackhawk.

I should perhaps note that on the same pages in the Bonney catalogs where those "Magneto Wrench Sets" appear are "Miniature" wrench sets as well.

 

[Dieselclunker]

can't find listing anywhere and it's very fine tooth action 7/16" drive .

 

[humber2]

I have seen a number of those sets, usually bonney. I am sure many companies sold them. Would love to see a blackhawk set!

Here we go......



Maybe the wallet is a local reproduction with the Made in England domes?

I see it is reversed allocations to the Bonney set I have somewhere.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Very nice set thanks for posting!

 

[humber2]

Here are the “extras” that came with the set.



The two wrenches with feeler gauges have jaw openings not found in the B-A set.

I believe they are from toolkits supplied with English cars.

The little pair of pliers are anonymous and appear cheaply made.

The square stock tweaker looks like a workshop project.

And sure as night follows day a chopped file and an emery board.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I see it is reversed allocations to the Bonney set I have somewhere.

What do you mean by reversed allocations? They look identical to me, including the part numbers.

 

[four.cycle]

The arrangement of the tools in the pouch? Or the manner in which the pouch is constructed?
Really a nice set there. Love the obligatory broken file and emery board.