Between 485 & 705 SQ/FT Tinkering Tony's Workshop

[B3D3G1]

Just a suggestion for the outlets Looking great!

That extra piece of wood on the back wall looks almost like a piece of wall bracing where it ties into the top plate there. I'm betting it goes all the way up to the peak of the rafters? It could be required by your structural engineer for the ceiling diaphragm for racking strength on the back wall. I would double check with them if it can be removed or not. Typically gable walls like your back wall can be braced with the trusses flat across the bottom with drywall and some 2x4 runs across the trusses. Because you have a vaulted ceiling there is nothing but the sheathing to stop the wall from buckling right where the truss meets the top plate. There should be some work-arounds to be able to remove that piece that could be discussed with your structural engineer.
See below:

Gable End Bracing | Structural Building Components Association

sbcindustry.com

Regarding the bracing, I asked my general contractor and he is looking into it. Both of our concerns are around drywall and aesthetics so I'll see what he comes up with. It's not a deal breaker if it has to stay but I'm thinking there has to be a better way.

Regarding the outlets, I put a note to be 48" to the bottom of the face plate like zc15 suggested. That made sense to me.

Current revised electrical plan:


I'm trying to figure out the sizing for the 220 outlets. Primary design consideration is a welder with my eye on Miller 215 Multiprocess with a nema 6-50p plug. I know enough to understand what people are writing in other posts but I'm not sure how to apply it and what my limitations are. Part of me wants to go to a 50 amp circuit with appropriate wire size (10 or even 8) just to be sure since the cost difference at this stage probably isn't going to be much. I'm planning to call the local welding supply shop and talk to them about and also get the electrician's take. I wouldn't mind also having the capability of charging an electric car but that's not really the main goal of this shop.

 

[teamextreme]

Welcome to the neighborhood. I had no issues with the City when I build my shop, hopefully you have similar luck. Looking good so far.

 

[B3D3G1]

Day 29 (Tuesday) - Siding and Roof

Monday came and went with an inspection of the OSB sheathing. The sides were fine but someone was supposed to leave a ladder for the inspector to get to the roof. The GC brought a ladder over in the afternoon and I think the roof portion was rescheduled for Tuesday.

Tuesday morning the framers showed up and got to work on wrapping the walls and working on siding. I wasn't watching for the inspector but he must have come at some point because another group of guys showed up late morning and started working on the roof. I had to step aware for work for a good portion of the day and I got home just as the last of the crew was leaving. The roof is done and the 2 of 4 walls have siding. They also put in the door which kind of surprised me. The GC said it needs to be in for electrical inspection and the correct door is still on order. Once it arrives, they will swap it out. As long as it doesn't cost me anything extra, I'm ok with that.


I'm guessing siding will be done on the other 2 walls tomorrow. Maybe garage door install soon? The GC was talking about maybe doing exterior paint before electrical due to scheduling and possibly weather. Not really sure what the next step is.
Garage Door -> Paint -> Gutters -> Electrical -> insulation -> Drywall -> Finishing (?)

 

[jbrentd]

Looking good!

Next is probably electrical then insulation. That’s the way mine has gone. My GC told me the overhead door would be after drywall.

 

[B3D3G1]

Looking good!

Next is probably electrical then insulation. That’s the way mine has gone. My GC told me the overhead door would be after drywall.

That's a good point regarding the door track install.

This is my first experience with a construction project so I'm trying to soak it all in. I'll be repeating it on a much smaller scale when I build my garden shed.

 

[jbrentd]

That's a good point regarding the door track install.

This is my first experience with a construction project so I'm trying to soak it all in. I'll be repeating it on a much smaller scale when I build my garden shed.

Mine too with my build...just learning as I go.

 

[B3D3G1]

Just got off the phone with the GC and got a good update to the schedule. Siding is finishing up today and an inspection is needed pre-paint in Lakewood. That should be completed tomorrow.

Next steps are electrical and paint, which can basically happen at the same time. Friday has a little bit of snow in the forecast so they might be forced to paint Saturday or Monday. Electrical should be done before the end of next week. Insulation and dry way done the following week. It's looking like end of the month completion if we don't have any delays.

Long lead items on order are the new service door and the garage door.

 

[B3D3G1]

Day 30/31 (Wednesday/Thurs) - Siding

The crew got through most of the siding on the remaining 2 walls but found they were a little short on material. They left early and came back today (Thursday) with more material and put up the last ~4 boards of siding. Not sure if the pre-paint siding inspection will be today or tomorrow.



It is supposed to snow tomorrow about an inch so the painters are scheduled to come on Sunday. Might be doing some prep work on Saturday and I've asked them to paint the wall on our studio building wall right next to work shop. The paint is in pretty bad condition and it's hard to hide any big discrepancies in color when it is that close. One less thing off my list too. Our house is all almond color windows with the same color trim, but the new workshop windows are white. We are going to keep the almond trim on the workshop and hope it looks ok with the white windows. The main color is a greyish blue to match some walls of our mismatched house.

I drew out estimates of the work schedule on my calendar and it's definitely possible to be done by Feb 1st. Hopefully we don't lose too many work days to inspections along the way and the doors are available. Ultimately, I'm trying to figure out when to schedule the floor coating work to be done so I can start moving in as soon as possible.

I also discovered a edge section of the slab has cracked off. It starts right at one of the pass through pipes and goes about an inch deep at 1 point. It also seems to line up with the nail pattern in the siding and I can see the staples for the wrap might have hit the concrete. I asked the GC about it and he is going to have his guy fix it. Not exactly sure what that means. I'm honestly not that worked about the structural part of it but maybe I should be. Hopefully just an isolated incident.

 

[grant00]

That came together quick! Looks really good.

If the concrete crack is just where the pipes feed through it shouldn't be a problem. Likely due to it being thin around the pipe. They'll probably break the small piece out and refill it with mortar or concrete fix of some sort.

 

[B3D3G1]

Day 34/35 (Sun/Mon) - Exterior Paint

Over the weekend, the exterior was painted. The crew showed up Saturday late morning and 1 guy started prepping with taping windows and caulking all the seams. The 2nd guy worked with me to harvest good paint samples to match. I wasn't around the entire day but apparently home depot made a mistake on the paint match that they didn't catch until they started painting. They had to go back and get another 5 gallons mixed and that kind of slowed down there progress. They finished painting the main color just before sunset and had to come back to do the trim work and door the following day. They had one guy spraying and the 2nd guy blocking off edges with a giant spatula looking thing. Most of the time, the 2nd guy was doing the classical supervisor role of just standing around looking at his phone.

I decided to match the house paint scheme and not paint the corners with the trim color. I think this was a good decision and would have made the building look a lot taller. I'm not super excited to have white windows, but I'll probably get used to it quickly. The painter said it's almost impossible to paint the vinyl and it will just bubble and peel off in the summer heat. I'll probably end up painting the garage door in the trim color since that will be white when it arrives. The service door is still supposed to be swapped to one that hinges on the right side so it seems crazy they painted this one.



I also had them paint the wall on our studio building right next to the workshop site. I think these guys are used to doing new construction because they just painted right over the heavily peeling paint. I went out the next morning with a paint scraper for about an hour and removed all the loose paint. They agreed to touch up the spots with removed paint and wait a 2 weeks to put a 2nd coat on some of the spots that went down to the wood. The electrical panel was also painted and I think it looks a lot better. After checking with the GC, they aren't charging anything extra for the extra painting so I guess I'm not too mad. 1 Less thing on my todo list for minimal work.

Next up is electrical work. Trenching for the main power lines from the workshop to the house won't happen until Thursday and I think the electricians will start all their work after that is done. Gutters can be installed anytime now and I have a flooring contractor coming by today to give me a real quote and bring by some color samples.

 

[B3D3G1]

It's been a bit of a slow week in terms of progress but there should be good progress this week on electrical.

Day 36 (Tues) - Flooring quote
I had done some pre-shopping on flooring prior to permitting and decided on Specialty Poxy Coatings. I had them come out to shore up a quote and provide some samples. Originally, I was considering a stock color with red chips added but I found some pictures of another project that had done that and the red overwhelmed the other colors. I decided to go with 1/4" Grey. I'll have a red lift and I'm planning a white/red/grey wall colors. Price is $5.50 / sqft so it's not cheap for 529 sqft of interior space.

Inspiration for the garage colors came from this picture. We'll see if I actually do that or just whitish walls. Floor should be a touch lighter than this.



Day 38/39 (Thur/Fri) - Electrical trenching

Workers had to dig a 2 foot deep trench for the electrical lines that run from the workshop to the house. This included breaking up some concrete near the house and was about 35 to 40 feet of total distance. They brought a trencher but had do some of it by hand at the ends. Our fiber optic internet cable also ran right near where they were digging so I asked them to be extra carefull in one area but they unfortunately hit it and took our internet down. My wife and I usually work from home so we scrambled and had to jump to cell phone hot spot usage. Luckily, CenturyLink came out the next morning and ran a new cable. The technician was nice enough to run a long cable through the air with plenty of slack on at the end so I could install some new conduit and pass the cable through myself without calling them back out.
It also started snowing pretty good on the diggers for the last 2 hours. It made me feel a little guilty being inside working in my office while they were digging in that.


Over the weekend I dug out the old fiber optic conduit which was only about 3 or 4 inches deep. I'm hoping we can use this trench for the new conduit so only about 8 feet of additional trench have to be dug to the utility pole. I think there should be an inspection today (Monday) on the trench and then electrical can start.

 

[jbrentd]

I like that color combo, can’t wait to see it.

 

[B3D3G1]

Day 42 (Monday) - Electrical

The electricians started their work on Monday. They Installed the main panel with integrated meter and located most of the boxes. Still need to install boxes for the light fixtures and some of the romex has been run. I'm going to have to put my 6 of my 9 light fixtures on the slanted part of the ceiling but I think it should be fine.

New panel:


Old panel on house: (meter box and aerial mast will be removed):


The cable is laid in the trench ready for inspection on Tuesday.
Since It's already Tuesday and I'm posting this, it snowed several inches before the inspector came and he failed it because there was snow in the trench. I guess we have to wait a few days for it to melt?

Gutters also were installed. Not much to note here and I didn't really take any pictures yet. They are white and I'll need to check with the GC if they will be painted.

I also started digging the ~10 foot long trench from my utility pole to the electrical trench. I only got about 8" deep before it was getting dark and I was tired. This will be for the my fiber optic cable for internet service and I'm still undecided if I will use a flexible conduit or the tradition electrical PVC conduit. I want a little bit of resistance to breakage since I know I'm going to have to run the sprinklers over the top of this in a few months and I'm considering using a trencher. Maybe I'll dig a short crossover trench for the sprinkler line that would pass over the fiber run right now.

Bonus - I've seen a bobcat twice this week in my backyard and got a horrible picture with my cell phone across the yard the 2nd time. Also a hawk sitting on the power line right above the workshop last night watching me dig.

 

[B3D3G1]

Day 44 (Wednesday) - Garage Door and Electrical

The garage door went in today. I'm pretty happy with the way it fits into the space. I was happy to see the LiftMaster 8500W box when they were unloading because I wasn't totally sure I the W version made it past email/text conversations with the GC. I was willing to pay the difference to get the built in wireless feature. The rails lift the door up just about as high as it could go in the space and I might even have 12 feet of clearance under the rail. The door feels like a solid insulated door too. It's operating off an extension cord right now and it's smooth and quiet. Paint is definitely on my todo list if the GC isn't doing it.




The electricians also did all the rest of the internal wiring. Everything looks pretty good and where I want it for now. I caught them early so they could easily move the switch box to the other side of the door. Same with the garage door installers for the hardwired wall switch. I took a ton of pictures for future reference on where the wires run behind the walls but here is a closer one of where the pass through is from outside to inside.


The electrical trench inspection is rescheduled for tomorrow. Of course, it is predicted to snow again in the morning. The GC said he would be out early to make sure the trench is clear for the inspector but I might through some spare boards or a tarp over the trench tonight if it's fairly clear.

The last big ticket items are moving the electrical meter/feed to the workshop, insulation, and drywall. Maybe 2 weeks out from being done with the build phase.

 

[B3D3G1]

I went back and looked around a little bit longer last night. One thing that stuck out to me was the location of the garage door motor. I'm very curious to see how they insulate and drywall around this.
Hard to tell from the picture exactly, but the top of the motor is about 2 or 3 inches above the bottom of the rafter.

 

[jbrentd]

I went back and looked around a little bit longer last night. One thing that stuck out to me was the location of the garage door motor. I'm very curious to see how they insulate and drywall around this.
Hard to tell from the picture exactly, but the top of the motor is about 2 or 3 inches above the bottom of the rafter.

I would be curious as well...maybe others can chime in. But definitely something I would ask the GC about if he is doing the insulation and drywall for you.

 

[grant00]

That is interesting. I'm going to say it's placed too high and you won't be able to insulate above it. It'll be a complicated drywall pocket. Lowering it would result in having to lower your door tracks overhead too.

 

[B3D3G1]

Day 46 (Friday) - Electrical Inspection

Rough electrical inspection on the interior work went off without a hitch.

The trench for the direct bury line from the workshop to the house was not so good. It wasn't the required 24 inches. I was a little skeptical it would pass and I was actually here and free when the inspector came so I got to talk through it with him. It needs 24 inches of covering, which can be dirt or even the driveway concrete. I guess the next step is the get the diggers out here again and keep digging. This is what I pay the GC for so I'll let him figure it out.

I think the insulation can move forward as planned in the interior on Monday. The electrical inspector said something about a final framing inspection before insulation but maybe this was already done.

This weekend, I'm going to finish my 1 foot deep trench for the fiber optic cable and remove the old satellite dish from the roof. When the old aerial power lines are removed, there will be some patching on the roof for the mast which is about 5 feet from the old satellite dish so might as well do both.

 

[teamextreme]

If they're requiring it to be 24" that means they are direct burying the cable. If you run PVC conduit and pull the cable through that it only needs to be 18" deep. Better installation IMO and something to consider for the small price of some 2" PVC.

 

[B3D3G1]

Day 47 (Saturday) - Trenching revisited

The diggers were called out today by the GC. They were here a couple hours and I think it's still questionable it's deep enough. I guess we'll find out at the next inspection, probably Monday.

I also took down the old Dish satellite off the roof and removed old cable box and obsolete cables on the side of the building. Makes me wonder if there is something better I can do with the dish than trashing it.
I also finished the 12 inch trench for the fiber optic cable. I bought some 3/4" non-metallic flexible water tight conduit. I've never dealt with this stuff before and I was pretty impressed with how sturdy it felt. I'm guessing I'll need to use my hacksaw to cut through it.

If they're requiring it to be 24" that means they are direct burying the cable. If you run PVC conduit and pull the cable through that it only needs to be 18" deep. Better installation IMO and something to consider for the small price of some 2" PVC.

Yep, it's direct bury. I think PVC conduit is plan C if the trench fails again. But that's what I'm paying a GC for so I'm trying not to think about it too much.

 

[B3D3G1]

I started messing around with SketchUp this morning. I get a full pro license through work but I've never really tried to use it. I'm much more familiar with SolidWorks but I wasn't trying to build this whole thing piece by piece and assemble it like a typical mechanical assembly.

I tried messing around with it at first without any guidance and nothing made sense. I couldn't figure out how to change the size of what I was drawing or any basic actions. So I went to where everyone goes to learn things, YouTube. After about 30 mins, I realized the basic workflow was way different than what I was trying to do. I watched a video meant more for woodworking and then it more or less clicked how to do the basics.

I got the main foot print and interior dimensionally done. I even found a rotary lift on the 3D Warehouse and figured out how to change it to red like the one I ordered. I'll add service door and window locations after I go outside and measure the exact locations. I might even add all the outlet locations.



I mainly want to use this for figuring out layout or storage and equipment. I'm thinking of building cabinets rather than buying and I want do something that makes sense for the long term plan so I don't have to move or rebuild.

 

[jbrentd]

I really like using Sketchup as well. Like you said, once you get the hang of it, it’s easy. I was able to find models for quite a few things going in mine and made up the rest.

 

[B3D3G1]

Day 49 (Monday) - Main Electrical Panel Switch Over

Today the main power from the utility pole was transfered from the panel on the house to the new main panel on the work shop. The electricians were here early and did a little prep work on both boxes and a little extra digging at each end of the trench to better suit the conduit coming out of the trench. The inspector arrived around noon and everything passed. I think they had to run an extra ground wire to the grounding rod but I don't know the exact details. Now the long aerial to the house is gone and the house panel was reactivated off the buried cable. I'll need to do some painting and they have yet to remove the mast but there's a fairly large storm coming in this week so that will have to wait.

workshop panel:

Before shot of house panel with the old coax box and meter:

After shot with meter moved:


Insulation is scheduled for Thursday and my best guess at the schedule shows everything done on Feb 11th.

 

[B3D3G1]

I have been looking at table saws recently and I pretty much decided I wanted the Dewalt 7491RS. I'm not looking to build up a wood shop
and I want something that doesn't take up a huge amount of real estate so this seems like a good idea. I'm planning on building some tool stands and storage solutions and possible some cabinets in the new workshop. I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos in my spare time for inspiration.

I added it to a few of my saved lists across a few stores and I happened to see it was at Home Depot on sale for $529 today so I pulled the trigger. It's being shipped to the store since I don't trust the delivery guy with this heavy of an item.

 

[grant00]

Glad to see the electrical got done quickly. This storm sounds like it'll be our biggest snowfall so far this year.

Nice table saw!

 

[B3D3G1]

Day 52 (Thursday) - Insulation

Insulation started going in today. I was under the impression they were going to spray it in, but it was just a guy putting up fiberglass bats. It was -6 F at my house at 7 am this morning so I don't blame them for showing up at almost 11 when it was a more reasonable 15 F. I believe the plan is to insulate the roof rafters rather than the ceiling joists due to the shape of everything. Not sure how it it all fits together but I'm about to find out. They got through ~80% of the vertical walls and will be back tomorrow to finish it up. Inspection should will be scheduled for Monday.

 

[B3D3G1]

Day 53 (Friday) - More Insulation

2 guys came back today to get more of the insulation in. Apparently the boss man didn't like the slow pace of the guy yesterday so he sent him home at lunch time. The remaining guy got most of the vertical walls done and good amount of the vapor barrier up. The rest of the team showed up around 2 to speed it up.

Apparently, they didn't know this needed to build to code and pass inspection. Once they found that out, the boss man kinda blew up and called my GC. I didn't really know what was going on at the time but I heard a few hints during the phone call. Code requires the ceiling to be R39 (I think) and they were planning to continue to use the same R21 from the walls. The insulation contractor thought this project was after permits were completed. I guess they don't sell the batts with the correct R value so they have to spray foam the entire ceiling. Well my GC didn't tell him about the inspection so he got the wrong initial quote. This will cost an extra $1000 and that is coming out of the GC, not me. The insulation contractor packed up real quick after ripping down most of the Styrofoam panels at the top of the walls. and will be back tomorrow to spray in the rest of the insulation.

I also got the chance to walk through every remaining work item and inspection with the GC and tweak my running schedule. Currently, the schedule is saying I'll have the final inspection on Feb 17 if there are no issues and all the contractors are lined up ready to go. That gives me 1 day buffer for the scheduled date of the flooring install. Part of me wants to just push the flooring out now but I kind of like the deadline on the GC.
The lift supplier also reached out today and we tentatively scheduled the install for March 7, two weeks after the flooring goes in. They didn't give me a clear indication of if the lift was in stock now, but that is what I assumed from the emails.

 

[B3D3G1]

Day 57 (Tues) - More Insulation

Dealing with the insulation contractor has been a nightmare. The contractor was supposed to come back on Sunday to finish the work so we could have the inspection done on Monday. He showed up and said he forgot plastic and left. He came back Monday and started spraying the ceiling and apparently ran out of material. He then came back Tuesday and I finished spraying the ceiling but left at 1:30 with the intent of coming back in the evening to finish up. Now is supposed to show up Wed morning to finish up before the inspector arrives. His ~8 year old daughter has been here the whole time and I think there is something else going on in the background of his life. I just hope it gets sorted soon so we can move on.

Spray insulation up to the flat section of the ceiling. The 2nd side has been completed since.


Meanwhile, The demo guys came out and filled the open trench for the electrical cable. I also got my conduit in there for my fiber cable. When I tried pulling the fiber through the conduit, I was in a little bit of a hurry and unfortunately ripped off the connector of the cable. This was Saturday afternoon so we were out of internet for the weekend and Monday. CenturyLink finally got here Tues morning and pulled a new cable. I even had a fish tape run through the conduit and "custom" puller made out of wiring loom waiting for them. I don't have a good picture at the moment but it looks so much better without aerial cables running to the house.

 

[teamextreme]

Is it in your permit to include heat in this building? The only time I thought they required insulation was if it was a heated space. At least that's the way it used to be. I wonder if they changed it? My shop was originally built un-insulated. I added full insulation when I expanded and finished it.

 

[B3D3G1]

Is it in your permit to include heat in this building? The only time I thought they required insulation was if it was a heated space. At least that's the way it used to be. I wonder if they changed it? My shop was originally built un-insulated. I added full insulation when I expanded and finished it.

Funny you should say that. The inspector showed up and the insulation wasn't finished. He said he didn't see any heating/cooling or foundation insulation so why insulate it? I told him there is nothing on this permit but I may add a mini split in the future. The inspector looked around for 10 seconds and said it's "good enough" and left. You may be on to something about no requirement for insulation for the permitted building. I would think the GC would know more about this than I do but I'm not so sure any more.

 

[teamextreme]

I forgot about foundation insulation. I mentioned wanting to heat my space and they City said no-go because the foundation wasn't originally insulated.

 

[zc15]

I forgot about foundation insulation. I mentioned wanting to heat my space and they City said no-go because the foundation wasn't originally insulated.

So you add it later as a modification to the existing, fully inspected and permitted structure. Normally you'll have to pull a mechanical permit and possibly an electrical one as well. I cannot see them saying you can't add something like a Hot Dawg or mini split after the fact because the floor isn't insulated.

 

[B3D3G1]

Day 59 (Thursday) - Finished Insulation

On the 6th working day, the insulation contractor finally finished up his work. He left after half a day again on Wednesday but came back at ~6pm and worked until 8:30pm. He told the GC he would have it done but of course he didn't finish. He showed up this morning at around 7:30 and finally finished at around 11 or so. He was holding up the whole timeline and the GC finally got through to him to get it done now.

This is probably the best picture I got of the inside.


The drywall contractor is all setup to get started tomorrow. The GC is trying to get them to work through the weekend to get it done but we'll see how Super Bowl plays into that plan. It's still possible to get final inspection a week from tomorrow but I won't be too upset if it gets pushed out a day or 2.

The concrete guys also came back yesterday to patch a section that was torn up for the electrical trench. Nothing too critical to mention there other than I really like this Father and Son contractor. They saw cut the rough edges and did they best they could with that area.

 

[jbrentd]

Nice to see the insulation is done. Like you said, it seems he had a lot more than work going on in his world. You're about on the same timeline as I was. I think my insulation wrapped up around day 55. Now we get to see how they drywall around the opener.

 

[B3D3G1]

That is the big question mark in my mind. They insulated around it so we will see. It sounds like the garage door installer will come back to do the final tweaking of the limits/stops once everything is finished so hopefully he catches any potential problems there.



I need to work on my interior model more after seeing your picture. I was messing around with Sketchup and a miter saw stand design with folding arms. I was pretty amazed at the cutlist extension that can map out all the parts on 4x8 sheets of plywood. I also just got a notification my table saw is ready to be picked up from the big orange.

 

[teamextreme]

I also just got a notification my table saw is ready to be picked up from the big orange.

I'm headed there now, you want me to pick it up for you?

 

[B3D3G1]

Drywall is scheduled for Super Bowl Sunday. The guys said it's a half day job and they are going to try to bring a few extra guys to speed it up. I'm also supposed to have the service door swapped with the correct one this weekend at some point.

I also went and picked up some PVA primer from the local Guiry's which is a Benjamin Moore vendor. Don't remember exact brand but it was more of a contractor grade, I guess. I don't know much about paint. I also picked up some color samples to see what I want to do color scheme wise. If I have the chance, I might prime the areas at the light fixtures just for ease of mind.

I also bought more equipment. I had an automated miller welder search on craigslist and a Miller Multimatic 220 popped up last night. I sent an email and ended up going to pick it up this morning. The welder came with all the stock equipment plus 2 gas tanks, 2 regulators, 2 masks, some gloves, a stand, and various filler rods and spools. The guy was a pro welder that bought it all locally just before being transferred to a different job site and took over a warehouse management role. This thing was basically brand new. $3000 for the package seemed pretty good to me too. Probably saved me $2000 for something I would have bought eventually.

 

[B3D3G1]

Also decided to sign up for a half day MIG class here in Denver at General Air along with buying an inexpensive set of gloves and welding jacket.

 

[nmk_61802]

That is the big question mark in my mind. They insulated around it so we will see. It sounds like the garage door installer will come back to do the final tweaking of the limits/stops once everything is finished so hopefully he catches any potential problems there.



I need to work on my interior model more after seeing your picture. I was messing around with Sketchup and a miter saw stand design with folding arms. I was pretty amazed at the cutlist extension that can map out all the parts on 4x8 sheets of plywood. I also just got a notification my table saw is ready to be picked up from the big orange.

Your GC should looking into using an Alternative Mounting Kit.

LiftMaster 480LM Garage Door Opener Extension Kit for 8500, 8500W, 8900W

480LM Liftmaster gear extension kit for mounting the 8500, 3900 and 3800 jackshaft garage door openers

www.opendoorremote.com

 

[zc15]

Also decided to sign up for a half day MIG class here in Denver at General Air along with buying an inexpensive set of gloves and welding jacket.

Nice welder pickup! How much does your half day lesson cost? I recently did an intro class at my local CC that went over all 3 processes, 4 hours a week for 15 weeks, and based on the amount of material I used I made out on the deal. Not to mention the amount of anguish I saved myself