Tools from the old world

[decaf]

Pic posting time!

I learned that the Bahco outlet store was open again this summer, trying to empty the last of the stock. Went there as fast as I could

I'm planning on going back as soon as possible. There was more unsorted boxes with some NOS stuff in and I must buy more!

Where is that location Frasse? When is it open, please let me know!

 

[north]

Stupid question, but what does NOS stand for? "Not on shelves"??

New Old Stock. Old stuff that's never been used.

 

[Ken81590]

AHHH! Gotcha. Thank you sir

 

[TjoFrasse]

Stupid question, but what does NOS stand for? "Not on shelves"??

Like north said. Stuff no longer sold but still unused.

Where is that location Frasse? When is it open, please let me know!

It's in Bahcos old facilities (Tallbacksvägen 2) in Enköping. Open wednesdays 16-19 and saturdays 10-14. Open until 28:th july (not the 6/6 and 23/6 though).

 

[TjoFrasse]

There, complete ad.

 

[decaf]

There, complete ad.

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[Jacko Brush Strokes]

For the Belzer fans on here. A 3/8 6-Point Socket set: 6-19mm sockets, Ratchet, Breaker Bar and Extension Bar. In lovely condition and hardly used, and all for £16. Ebay is your friend.

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The four sockets at the front are later duplicates branded just 'Belzer'. This must be after Sandvik sold the company.

I've posted photos of the Insulated Belzer Set on here before but who cares - you can have some more.

 

[jalfaro]

Αlso found this "beauty" for free.

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¡¡¡Free!!!, Great Lok!!

Pic posting time!

I learned that the Bahco outlet store was open again this summer, trying to empty the last of the stock. Went there as fast as I could

For the Belzer fans on here. A 3/8 6-Point Socket set: 6-19mm sockets, Ratchet, Breaker Bar and Extension Bar. In lovely condition and hardly used, and all for £16. Ebay is your friend.

Nice Bahco tools guys

I forgot to post some pix of my latest purchase. A Small Unior Prybar.

...and Unior Pry Bar, of course

 

[unknow82]

There, complete ad.

oh! I am defenately going... THANKS!

 

[TjoFrasse]

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Hope you can go. I'm planning on going again on wednesday.

For the Belzer fans on here. A 3/8 6-Point Socket set: 6-19mm sockets, Ratchet, Breaker Bar and Extension Bar. In lovely condition and hardly used, and all for £16. Ebay is your friend.

The four sockets at the front are later duplicates branded just 'Belzer'. This must be after Sandvik sold the company.

Amazing sets! Really nice stuff.

Someone better at Belzer (perhaps Monte) might correct me on this, but I think if they just say "Belzer" they're from before Bahco/Sandvik bought them. I don't think there is any after era, the brand is dead.

oh! I am defenately going... THANKS!

Taking the ferry huh?

 

[Monte]

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Thanks for the autopsy pics

Monte,
I have couple of large wbg sockets 23mm and up. They are made in Germany. But they are from 10 years ago.

in the old days like 10 years ago everything was made in germany

What is the price for the gedore pass through set? Looks pretty.

224.-€ with 19% tax incl.

Bought some nice bahco´s today, and a Belzer....

very nice set !!

ahah the prices were wrong online...i contact them to know the shipping costs...and they update the price!!

should have ordered before asking

I recently aquire a flat screwdriver from merkur - germany ....never eard about this brand before...but seems to be well builded...pics later...you already know something about this brand?

There is a company: "Merkur Werkzeug-Fabrik Fritz Happich" , but no homepage.
Just found out (with Googles help ) that the plastic manufacturer www.befi-plastic.de made the screwdrivers for Merkur tools.

JAZ & GRIP ON

Me gusta mogollón

I'm waiting the 7ur.

nice

I have some, I'll post it later.

cool

The 1/2 to 3/8 adaptor has "max 202nm" and the 3/8 to 1/4 "max 62nm".

Hazet too !

The 3/8 gu3 is longer than a regular 3/8 ratchet and maybe that's why. With all three of them you Can transfer much more power than the normal length ratchet. How about a regular 3/8 ratchet resist? I had the impression that the 1/4 resist about 70 nm the 3/8 220nm and the 1/2 a lot . Is that more or less correct or completely out? Perhaps this "max 200" is the the minimum guaranteed values for all 3/8 ratchets (of gedore at least) but mention only on this one cause of the larger leverage. I don't want a longer ratchet with less durability.

i think its 68,6 NM for 1/4", 225 NM for 3/8" and 569 NM for 1/2" (see Gedore catalog last pages) i guess because the flex joint its not as strong.

The dealer brought the 1/2 and played a little with it. I like it. Yes it's truly very very nice feature. I was afraid that it wouldn't be so handy but I was wrong.
The ratchet itself is exactly what I want. A longer Fine tooth with swivel head. But also a little expensive.

so buy it with all the Gedore tools you bought there (?) he should give you a special "house price" i think

Sadly it not mine
my friend new tools I'm just

please more pics of your friends tools

I found this NOS beta no42.

hmmm italian Beta and a nice fine tooth Gedore ratchet !

Pic posting time!

Two pics from the store:

ahhhhhh i want to go there adjustable for only $14.- and small hammers for $6.-
hmmmmm... 1034 KM....11 hours 24 minutes to Enköping.....

My purchases:

nice tools and great price

I've posted photos of the Insulated Belzer Set on here before but who cares - you can have some more.

Thats a pretty cool set !!

 

[magnusk750]

Du suckar! You ****! Lived 50 km from Bacho in Enköping for the first 30 years. Passed through the city every day on my way to the work for many years. Now on the other side of the baltic sea, rrr!

Are they leaving Enköping totally? For all of you around the world, Enköping is a small town of about 30 000 inhabitants. Bacho was found in that town, the adjustable wrench was invented there, they have a 3.4 metres high adjustable wrench wrench on the city border, once upon a time it was a big company also making ventilation equipment, and now, nothing. It's quite a strike to the identity of such a town.

Pic posting time!

I learned that the Bahco outlet store was open again this summer, trying to empty the last of the stock. Went there as fast as I could

 

[decaf]

Hope you can go. I'm planning on going again on wednesday.

If you go there on wednesday, please take some more pics?

I´ll go there next week

 

[TjoFrasse]

ahhhhhh i want to go there adjustable for only $14.- and small hammers for $6.-
hmmmmm... 1034 KM....11 hours 24 minutes to Enköping.....

nice tools and great price

Yeah, the prices are amazing for some stuff. The 319 was 100:-, compared to normal 250:-. The adjustables are 2:nd class, but still you can find ones with hardly detectable imperfections. I'm mostly after the wrenches and stuff in the unsorted boxes though. And some stuff for the in-car toolkit

Du suckar! You ****! Lived 50 km from Bacho in Enköping for the first 30 years. Passed through the city every day on my way to the work for many years. Now on the other side of the baltic sea, rrr!

Are they leaving Enköping totally? For all of you around the world, Enköping is a small town of about 30 000 inhabitants. Bacho was found in that town, the adjustable wrench was invented there, they have a 3.4 metres high adjustable wrench wrench on the city border, once upon a time it was a big company also making ventilation equipment, and now, nothing. It's quite a strike to the identity of such a town.

Wow, my first suckage!

As I understood from my chat with the cashier all tooling have been shipped to Spain and there will be no more production in Enköping. What will happen with the buildings I don't know. I'm guessing there is a lot of disgruntled workers in Enköping now.

If you go there on wednesday, please take some more pics?

I´ll go there next week

I'll try to get more pics. Want to go wednesday at least. The more you wait the more one of a kinds gets sold

 

[mrtools]

I found this NOS beta no42.

Nice Italian made Beta

Αlso found this "beauty" for free.

The beauty and the beast..It built for life

Pic posting time!
I learned that the Bahco outlet store was open again this summer, trying to empty the last of the stock. Went there as fast as I could

Woww!! very nice shopping, you are so lucky to be there
any other Belzer wrenches?

I forgot to post some pix of my latest purchase. A Small Unior Prybar.
Used the big one quite heavily when remodelling our house and it did well. Thats why I purchased a smaller version for smaller jobs but I think I also need a even smaller one.

nice!! the big one actual length?

For the Belzer fans on here. A 3/8 6-Point Socket set: 6-19mm sockets, Ratchet, Breaker Bar and Extension Bar. In lovely condition and hardly used, and all for £16. Ebay is your friend.
The four sockets at the front are later duplicates branded just 'Belzer'. This must be after Sandvik sold the company

I'm not a big fan of shinny chrome tool, but Belzer tools finish always impress me

I've posted photos of the Insulated Belzer Set on here before but who cares - you can have some more.

Awesome
All the Insulated Belzer set from Germany (COO)?
where you got it and how much$$$?\

please more pics of your friends tools

Bacho was found in that town, the adjustable wrench was invented there, they have a 3.4 metres high adjustable wrench wrench on the city border, once upon a time it was a big company also making ventilation equipment, and now, nothing. It's quite a strike to the identity of such a town.

great story magnusk750 thanks to share

 

[mrtools]

No new tools just "in action tools"

Thanks for watching

 

[jalfaro]

No new tools just "in action tools"

Thanks for watching

Thanks to you MrTool, great pictures

 

[lok]

Free Gedore ratchet? And it's working? That is

Yes! It was in a drawer with old and broken stuff. Ι play a little and could not find any flaw. I took it home and open it. All was in a perfect condition and oiled. Since then I use it occasionally with no problem at all. .

¡¡¡Free!!!, Great Lok!!

Thanks. I think I'm lucky.

i think its 68,6 NM for 1/4", 225 NM for 3/8" and 569 NM for 1/2" (see Gedore catalog last pages) i guess because the flex joint its not as strong.

In this case Ι guess you are right.
Yes I have seen it but I thought it was only for sockets and not for the drivers.

so buy it with all the Gedore tools you bought there (?) he should give you a special "house price" i think

Maybe I buy both! (doesn't any money remained )
Yes all the gedore tools that I have are from the same dealer. The price was very good from the beginning. Then it became even better. Also I have better price to the gedore tools than the other brands that he have. Thats why I choose gedore pliers over the Knipex for example.

hmmm italian Beta and a nice fine tooth Gedore ratchet !

Thanks

Nice Italian made Beta

I can find more. I did not have time to look better in the store. Were mixed with new ones. I hop to find all the basic numbers.

The beauty and the beast..It built for life

It's really a tank. Gedore magic 2012 has it in offer. I don't know the price though.

No new tools just "in action tools"

We want more!

 

[unknow82]

So here is my old Beta "tank", where all previous Beta tools where from.

I found it from Sweden, Göteborg, old man was selling it on internet, but no-one seem to be intersted from it, so he has allready lowered prise.

Seller had bougth it from Geneve, Switzerland around mid 1980's. Company he presented was in some (auto?)fair, he had admire this toolbox for entire week on Beta stand next to them and made offer for it with tools.

Some tools where still ziptied and never used.

...Even keychain is still original.

 

[lok]

Btw gedore bent nose plier and allen keys.
And the locking plier not used yet.

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[lok]

So here is my old Beta "tank", where all previous Beta tools where from.

wow. Very very nice! All the old beta are made in Italy. Don't know about the toolboxes though.

Doesn't the tools has "Italy" on them?

Very very nice. Can we have more close photos from the rathcet at least?

 

[Krokodil]

Nice Gedore!

 

[north]

@unknow82

 

[unknow82]

All tools (exept lock pliers) are made in Italy and are marked as one, toolbox is not marked anyway, but it is made in Italy, one factorys did make them att that time.
Here is similar toolbox next to F1

Similar, modifided in MotoGP

I have post closeup photos from tools allready.
posted by "mofo62", I beleve this photo is calogue picture from same era?

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*Beta - Carrello C25 TANK





...Waoo.

V!

 

[Monte]

Yeah, the prices are amazing for some stuff. The 319 was 100:-, compared to normal 250:-. The adjustables are 2:nd class, but still you can find ones with hardly detectable imperfections. I'm mostly after the wrenches and stuff in the unsorted boxes though. And some stuff for the in-car toolkit

why don´t all manufacturers have stores like that....

No new tools just "in action tools"

Thanks for watching

it was a pleasure !!! Thanks for the action pics !!

In this case Ι guess you are right.
Yes I have seen it but I thought it was only for sockets and not for the drivers.

i think it´s for the square drive, because the amount of torque don´t rise for the larger sockets.

Maybe I buy both! (doesn't any money remained )
Yes all the gedore tools that I have are from the same dealer. The price was very good from the beginning. Then it became even better. Also I have better price to the gedore tools than the other brands that he have. Thats why I choose gedore pliers over the Knipex for example.

that sounds good

So here is my old Beta "tank", where all previous Beta tools where from.

WOW how cool is that !!!!!!!!!!!

Btw gedore bent nose plier and allen keys.
And the locking plier not used yet.

niiiiice !!!!!!!! the more Gedore tools you post the more i like Gedore







Is it a fuel can or tool box ??

it´s both

 

[jalfaro]

Is it a fuel can or tool box ??

Very original Monte, how old could have?

 

[magnusk750]

I tend to get going when it comes to Bacho. It was kind of the landmark for quality tools in Sweden for decades. Before globalisation there were, more or less, two brands of quality tools in Sweden. Kamasa was the cheaper but still OK, Bacho was top notch, used by most proffesionals, the repair shop on your grandpas farm or whereever. When Bacho closed production in Enköping in 2007 the county museum made a documention of the life in the factory, b t w written by an ex girlfriend of mine. Only in swedish though, not even a summary in english. Can be downloaded here: http://www.upplandsmuseet.se/Upload/2189/Skiftnycklar_low.pdf

great story magnusk750 thanks to share

 

[zuspiel]

Awesome little box, Monte!

 

[zuspiel]

So here is my old Beta "tank", where all previous Beta tools where from.

Awesome! What a find!

 

[teletekman]

I am diggin that box Monte!

 

[lok]

i think it´s for the square drive, because the amount of torque don´t rise for the larger sockets.

That's what I also imagined with a closer look.

niiiiice !!!!!!!! the more Gedore tools you post the more i like Gedore

I know the feeling. I have the same problem with photos of Hazet.

Is it a fuel can or tool box ??


it´s both

Cool!

 

[mrtools]

Thanks to you MrTool, great pictures

You are welcome!

I can find more. I did not have time to look better in the store. Were mixed with new ones. I hop to find all the basic numbers.

don't forget to post pics if you get more Italian Betas

We want more!

the problem is no cameraman when I'm working with my tools

So here is my old Beta "tank", where all previous Beta tools where from.

Awesome..I like old Italian Betassssssssssssssssss
Thanks to share PICS

Btw gedore bent nose plier and allen keys.
And the locking plier not used yet.

All tools in your Gedore cantilever toolbox?
more Gedore pics please

it was a pleasure !!! Thanks for the action pics !!

You are welcome!!!

Is it a fuel can or tool box ??
it´s both

Nice..truly tank built
tank with a hidden weapon

 

[Rusik]

Bought today. Proskit. Made in Taiwan. good quality
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[Jacko Brush Strokes]

Awesome
All the Insulated Belzer set from Germany (COO)?
where you got it and how much$$$?\

The tools are all made in Germany and I got the set on Ebay about 2-3 years ago for £25ish, which is around $40.

 

[lok]

don't forget to post pics if you get more Italian Betas

Of course not.

the problem is no cameraman when I'm working with my tools

I have the same problem. I try once to get some but all was very blurry. When I have time I'll try again.

All tools in your Gedore cantilever toolbox?

No. Sadly no. The gedore catilever was too expensive. This is one pastorino, probably from Taiwan. Once I had post some Photos. I repost them. More photos from the catilever when new tools will arrive.

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It's not bad at all. It's not a gedore (btw the gedore are the best catilever that I've ever seen) but is very decent and durable enough. Also it was in a very good price. For 30-35 Euros (including the VAT, if I remember correctly) it was the only choice that I had. Following the facom (pretty much the same) with 50+vat and the unior (I don't remember the price).
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more Gedore pics please

Ok..

But let's start from a blurry photo with a small box on the new catalog of Beta...

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That his content doesn't exists in the catalog.

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Well..
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It's old stock.
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Once Monte had been post a very good video with this.

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Very nice!
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Well the idea of the beta catalog wasn't so good.
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Now I think is much better.
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My T-handle is lockable so I can use it.
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Once Monte had been post 1/4 ratchet with a No 41 socket. I have a No32 stubby for the tight places.
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Playing with the macro.
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1/4 long.
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Playing with the macro NoII
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With Stahlwille and wurth (felo).
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I hope you enjoy.

 

[TjoFrasse]

Woww!! very nice shopping, you are so lucky to be there
any other Belzer wrenches?

There were other wrenches, but this one had "Germany" on it so it was the first choice.

So here is my old Beta "tank", where all previous Beta tools where from.

WOW! That is so cool!

Btw gedore bent nose plier and allen keys.
And the locking plier not used yet.

Nice stuff!

why don´t all manufacturers have stores like that....
Is it a fuel can or tool box ??

Well, if they had it only when closing I'm glad there's no more... But it would be nice to have a organized way of buying obsolete stuff

That fuel can box is nice. Total road emergency kit.

No. Sadly no. The gedore catilever was too expensive. This is one pastorino, probably from Taiwan. Once I had post some Photos. I repost them. More photos from the catilever when new tools will arrive.

But let's start from a blurry photo with a small box on the new catalog of Beta...

Nice Beta adapters! Great pics also!

As I said there was another trip to the Bahco outlet store yesterday. It's hard to remember getting pics when you're checking out the tools, but some more in-store pictures:

50:- SEK bargain bin.

Grip-On, striking screwdrivers and some more.

Knives and boxes.

Box inserts.

Carry sets. And a (hardly visible) fish-and-hook plate.

Lindstrom pliers, saws and more.

So what did I get this time?

Belzer Germany extensions (3/8" and 1/4"). 20:- SEK each, I grabbed them as fast as I could

Belzer T-handle (3/8") and adapter (1/2" > 3/8"). 50:- and 20:- SEK.

Belzer 1/2" slotted sockets. 20:- SEK each.

Palmera electrician scissor. 60:- SEK.

Palmera scissor. 40:- SEK.

Bahco Insulated cutting plier. Made in Sweden. Not for me, picked it up for a friend. 100:- SEK.

More Grip-On locking pliers. 100:- SEK each.

Bahco adjustable with Pipe-Wrench function. The sliding part is turned for different use. Made in Sweden and 120:- SEK.

 

[decaf]

As I said there was another trip to the Bahco outlet store yesterday. It's hard to remember getting pics when you're checking out the tools, but some more in-store pictures:

50:- SEK bargain bin.

Thanks alot for the pics!!!!

I´m getting there very soon

in the middlebox it looks like very fine 1952 wrenches??

 

[Monte]

Very original Monte, how old could have?

sorry i dont know, google was not helpful. The manufacturer seems to make mini cooper parts nowadays.

I know the feeling. I have the same problem with photos of Hazet.

nice Gedore pics again !!! very cool
i don´t have that many Gedore tools but here is a pic for you

Nice..truly tank built
tank with a hidden weapon

Bought today. Proskit. Made in Taiwan. good quality
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Well, if they had it only when closing I'm glad there's no more... But it would be nice to have a organized way of buying obsolete stuff

lol yeah you´re right. Hopefully there never will be a store like this again
But i think most companies don´t want to sell factory seconds it seems.

ps: nice haul again !!!!

That fuel can box is nice. Total road emergency kit.

yep

 

[Jure]

how good is this brand?? its big old tube cutter

 

[Ken81590]

@Monte, next year me and my fiance are visiting Germany, it's my "homeland, but I haven't lived there since I was very very young, so I was wondering what are some tool store franchises in Germany that would be located all over the country, just like America's "Home Depot" and "Lowes". I don't really remember anything from there, because like I said, I was very young.