Tools from the old world

[Monte]

hi, i m a new member (just join yesterday!) do you know anything about ELORA??? it is a very famous brand in malaysia (2 decade ago), but not now. Thanks!!!

Patience isn't exactly one of my strengths...

here some teaser videos

"...gibt ihnen hilfreiche informationen.."
So much text for a ordinary thermometer !
But after the recent posts with Festools, Tormeks and Feins, nice with a more budget-friendly and affordable tool...

yeah

€2,95.... among the cheapest tools you can get and this one actually works

Yesterday brought my purchase A set of keys "Carl Walter" from 5.5 mm to 34 mm. Processing quality is very good.

Hello!

wow !! Cool stuff !!

Finally got a pair of these. Bit bigger than the rest.

Damn it´s huge !!! Want

... some impressions of my new selfmade Hazet working place/bench. It is painted with original Hazet colour

Looks nice














made some simple hooks....


...to store the side handles (which i rarely use) of my drills:

 

[north]

Yesterday brought my purchase A set of keys "Carl Walter" from 5.5 mm to 34 mm. Processing quality is very good.

They remind me of the Elora 203. Looks to have a nice no-nonsense finish. Where did you buy them and how much did they cost if you don't mind me asking?

 

[node105]

... some impressions of my new selfmade Hazet working place/bench. It is painted with original Hazet colour

nice! I like the little Flott

 

[node105]

Node105,

Wow, spendy stuff you have. I'd like to see some things you create using those tools.

I look forward to it myself

First small job was cutting some sheets of 18mm structural plywood with the plunge saw, for french cleats. A power board mounting plate, existing cupboards on the back of my workbench, and cupboard on the from are now hung up a la french cleats, rather than screwed.

The rear cupboard (back halves) were scrounged, and I had made some rudimentary doors for them. Now slated to be de-constructed, cut to consistent lengths, and square (sigh), and domino-ed, coz I (now) can.



Resized and fitted some laminated doors from some kitchen cupboards I had bought cheap, with the plunge and guide rails on the MFT/3 table. It took a little bit of familiarity and tweaking to get the guide rail square to the fence. A length of aluminium RHS made it simple. Once square cutting the doors was a breeze.

The outer 8mm cappings, to the inside of the front bench legs, cover some welded tabs and 3 levels of nutserts to allow different heights of the inside shelf. The cappings were routed out on the mounting face with appropriate recesses. No pics.

The centre door post was trenched on the Kapex to clear the top internal bench top frame, and some pine to pad out the Blum hinges mountings similarly trenched.

 

[node105]

Picked up the rough sawn Cedar yesterday and cut to length on the Kapex, and cut some additional noggins for the stud wall forming the back wall of my small workshop (which intrudes in to half of an internal courtyard). Extra noggins to get a consistent nail line for the vertical planks.

Today routed the last plank for the shiplap, yet to be ripped for last plank width. The OF 1400 router is sweet.

I was overly optimistic about my old and way to small Crompton Parkinson compressor, not enough pressure to drive the nailer. Will borrow a compressor next week... I was given this by a family member years ago, who was spray painter and used to sling it on his shoulder to paint trucks; weight 18 Kg. We use what we have. Until ...

 

[Aleksey]

They remind me of the Elora 203. Looks to have a nice no-nonsense finish. Where did you buy them and how much did they cost if you don't mind me asking?

Good afternoon. Yes it's not chrome finish. This phosphate. Set bought in www.amazon.de. The cost of this set of 40 euros + shipping to Ukraine.
Keys pleasant to the touch, non-slip grip in hand

 

[RX-KING]

My old measuring tape

 

[Blöckw@rt]

 

[dutch79]

... some impressions of my new selfmade Hazet working place/bench. It is painted with original Hazet colour

Nice! I'm building a Hazet based hobby garage currently, so I will show some more later this year to inspire you

By the way, a lot of Knipex pliers you have there!

 

[Mr MoAiZo]

A new bunch of Ko-ken sockets arrived today.
Everytime I am deeply surprised how astonishing the finish is.
The fit on different ratchets is awesome.
I would advise everyone that he should try Ko-ken.

2300X 1/4" sockets in 8mm, 10mm, 13mm on the left and 2300M 1/4" long sockets in 12mm and 13mm on the right (all 6 point)


AS2405A 1/4" sockets in 3/8", 1/2" and 9/16" (aerospace standard SAE AS 954; 12 point)


RS3300M/12 3/8" long socket set 8mm-19mm (6 point)



4251-M01 1/2" socket set 10mm-32mm (no 31mm; 6 point)




As cosmik would say: Sorry for the crappy cellphone pics.

hey! i have prior art on this! now get off of my shiny astroturf young'un!

 

[handtools-from-germany]

Nice! I'm building a Hazet based hobby garage currently, so I will show some more later this year to inspire you

By the way, a lot of Knipex pliers you have there!

I am waiting for your pics especially for of the tool cabine What about your rails? Everything is fine?

 

[Monte]

tools in action:

installing tie rod sleeves

...and grease fittings

cotter pin removal

crown nut removal

special puller a.k.a. hammer

torque wrench in action

 

[durallymax]

What you building Monte?

Where's the best place for koken sockets? I need some new sockets but want that style deep socket (narrow all the way to drive for small ones) and would prefer some nice useful knurling. I've found some that meet both but they are pricey

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[marcone]

What you building Monte?

Where's the best place for koken sockets? I need some new sockets but want that style deep socket (narrow all the way to drive for small ones) and would prefer some nice useful knurling. I've found some that meet both but they are pricey

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After several unsuccessful attempts at ordering directly from Japan - long waiting times and high import fees, I found a reliable source in Germany: spezi tools (just Google it).
He can source anything form the Koken catalogue in 2 weeks and his prices are ok.

 

[dutch79]

I am waiting for your pics especially for of the tool cabine What about your rails? Everything is fine?

I finished the cabinet several months ago and posted here:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3666068&postcount=18055

Table top hazet box was also restored and rails of the drawer box were also replaced succesfully

 

[Mr MoAiZo]

New from Ko-ken (they are first listed in the 2014 catalogue):
Sockets with turnable plastic protectors.

http://pdf.directindustry.de/pdf-en...e/sockets-turnable-plastic/110431-508527.html

Where's the best place for koken sockets? I need some new sockets but want that style deep socket (narrow all the way to drive for small ones) and would prefer some nice useful knurling. I've found some that meet both but they are pricey

For Ko-ken tools from Germany email him.

 

[kris ltc]

Thanks monte you are very resourceful !!! are you using facom screw drivers, is that great ? i m looking a set of impact \ chisel screw driver. can you give me some opinion?

 

[node105]

some new PB Swiss to add to part of the screwdriver collection, bits PH and PZ.

The bit holder is quite nice,magnetic plus slight left or right locks the bit in place.
The centre punches are carbide tipped PB712

 

[upgrading]

some new PB Swiss to add to part of the screwdriver collection

Looks excellent.
I like your stubby collection .

 

[node105]

Ruko order arrived today; very flimsy plastic containers, and no COO marking in sight. Gotta be suspicious of that. Another respectable brand now on the suspect list. The prices we're good though.

Step drill set A101032F is Titanium Aluminium Nitrided.

 

[aquater]

Hello... My name is Adam... I live in Poland

this bench vise made in czech ...

 

[Monte]

What you building Monte?

it´s a 1961 Chevy Impala coupe. Unfortunately not mine

Where's the best place for koken sockets? I need some new sockets but want that style deep socket (narrow all the way to drive for small ones) and would prefer some nice useful knurling. I've found some that meet both but they are pricey

did you look here: www.frankstools.com + www.levelchrome.com ?

Thanks monte you are very resourceful !!! are you using facom screw drivers, is that great ? i m looking a set of impact \ chisel screw driver. can you give me some opinion?

i own a set but rarely use them so i can´t comment much. I usually use Wurth drivers but i think the crosshead (PH/PZ) tips are a bit too soft, i heard this about the newer Wera too, so i think i would check out Wiha or Witte.

PB Swiss

Hello... My name is Adam... I live in Poland
this bench vise made in czech ...

Welcome to Garage Journal !
Nice York vice













News from Bosch: more 10,8 volt tools are coming soon...

new brushless GDS and GDR impacts with 3/8" square drive and 1/4" hex.
2 speed settings: 0-1200rpm/ 0-2600rpm





vacuum



light

 

[superautobacs]

Aquater,

That's a very nice York vise.

A new bunch of Ko-ken sockets arrived today.
Everytime I am deeply surprised how astonishing the finish is.
The fit on different ratchets is awesome.
I would advise everyone that he should try Ko-ken.

If you think the standard Ko-ken line has great fitment, you ought to try their Zeal series!

You need to update your stubbies so that they are Swissgrip versions.


What's the wooden(?) handled screwdriver? A vintage Wera?

 

[kiraj]

 

[node105]

Aquater,

That's a very nice York vise.






If you think the standard Ko-ken line has great fitment, you ought to try their Zeal series!







You need to update your stubbies so that they are Swissgrip versions.




What's the wooden(?) handled screwdriver? A vintage Wera?

stubbies:
but, but, but they're only a year old! I indulged memories of the past on those.


Not a Wera no, a hugely expensive Neurosurgical tool, for screwing in titanium screws to fix Titanium spinal plates. I'll take some close ups when I get a chance.

 

[handtools-from-germany]

I have to sale a Hazet torque wrench 6122-1CT (40 - 200 Nm). You have the possibility to get the wrench for cheap price:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231263211043?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

 

[upgrading]

Pliers Wrench rocks !

 

[Beenman]

torque wrench in action

Hi Monte,

Who makes that torque wrench? We use one that looks exactly the same, but is branded Gedore.

 

[Krokodil]

Rahsol is part of Gedore. Same product.

 

[Beenman]

Rahsol is part of Gedore. Same product.

Ah OK.

 

[ash95608]

I want those, do You know when they will be available

News from Bosch: more 10,8 volt tools are coming soon...

new brushless GDS and GDR impacts with 3/8" square drive and 1/4" hex.
2 speed settings: 0-1200rpm/ 0-2600rpm





vacuum



light

 

[Blöckw@rt]

There is still no release date here in Germany for the BOSCH devices.

 

[ash95608]

Interesting.
I wonder if any of this "magic" will cross the Atlantic ?

PDF is not showing properly for me.
Everything is pink and green.

I need more info on the Gewinkelte Kombinationszange on page 31.
They look decent.
Thanks.

It is available here in the US, only through certain distributors
take a look at the link

http://www.german-hand-tools.com/Gedore-Products.html

 

[Roverbo]

Hello!

I recently found this store online: http://store.flobyoverskottslager.se (swedish text only). A surplus store with military and civilan goods with lots of NOS tools. Found a good deal on a crowbar, which I have been looking for. Much cheaper than buying a "Tove" at regular prices at least. So I placed a order, and as always threw in some other fun NOS stuff with it
(...)
A garden tool you don't see often now a days. A sickle, made by Igelfors Bruks (also still around http://www.igelfors.se ) in Sweden.

Hehe, combine the sickle with one of your hammers and you´ll get a logotype you neither see that often...
Nice tools, i really like the Hultafors screwdrivers.

I look forward to it myself

First small job was cutting some sheets of 18mm structural plywood with the plunge saw, for french cleats. (...)

Nice work, node 105. The Festools found a good home.

tools in action:

installing tie rod sleeves (...)

That car looks fantastic. A complete restauration?

Now, tools at work on a less prestine car - my daily driver...

View media item 41339Exchange of the heater matrix in my 1990 V8 Range Rover. A job, you only want to do one time in your life...nearly every little thingy in the car has to come out, before you get in to the heater. Not difficult, just time- and knucle-consuming. "Assembly is reverse procedure" . Tools: Teng tools ½" ratchet with lots of ectensions, 14 mm. Koken socket, Matador 1/4" ratchet with lots of extensions, Wera, Wiha and Facom screwdrivers. Band aid plasters (not shown).

View media item 41338New extra lights in the frontspoiler...tools: Cree LED light (from Aldi!), Unknown electric multi-plier (really *****...), Bahco-Sandvik sidecutter, Weidmüller cablestripper, Valvoline penetrating oil. Nice with an easy job after the heater-job was done. Next on the list is exchange of the rear cross member (an inevitable job on Range Rovers...).

 

[submariner]

Please help, I'm looking for a 3/8" torque wrench and the Facom E.306A135J caught my eye because it has one of the best range (6.7-135 Nm), ideal for bike and car use i.e. I don't have to buy two torque wrenches.

http://www.facom.com/Facom/webcatalogue/facom/fiches-produit/sku_pdf/en/E-306A135J_en.pdf

Facom torque wrenches, who actually makes them? And is there anything else from the old world with similar range at less than €400? I already checked Hazet, Gedore and Stahwille catalogues but no luck. Thanks

 

[marcone]

Please help, I'm looking for a 3/8" torque wrench and the Facom E.306A135J caught my eye because it has one of the best range (6.7-135 Nm), ideal for bike and car use i.e. I don't have to buy two torque wrenches.

http://www.facom.com/Facom/webcatalogue/facom/fiches-produit/sku_pdf/en/E-306A135J_en.pdf

Facom torque wrenches, who actually makes them? And is there anything else from the old world with similar range at less than €400? I already checked Hazet, Gedore and Stahwille catalogues but no luck. Thanks

You could easily but 2 good torque wrenches for that kind or money
I'd add Norbar to my list of manufacturers.

 

[cosmik binturong]

Please help, I'm looking for a 3/8" torque wrench and the Facom E.306A135J caught my eye because it has one of the best range (6.7-135 Nm), ideal for bike and car use i.e. I don't have to buy two torque wrenches.

http://www.facom.com/Facom/webcatalogue/facom/fiches-produit/sku_pdf/en/E-306A135J_en.pdf

Facom torque wrenches, who actually makes them? And is there anything else from the old world with similar range at less than €400? I already checked Hazet, Gedore and Stahwille catalogues but no luck. Thanks

you'll still need two if by "bike" you mean bicycle and not motorcycle...
Hazet and Stahlwille make their own wrenches and Gedore too but they own Rahsol and Torqueleader and maybe others in the field and rebadge internally lots of stuff with varying price point.

Facom makes some of their wrenches in Italy at a USAG plant and rebrands other stuff from the US(seen some CDI) and Taiwan.

you can also check Norbar and Tohnichi(from Japan) that do make great stuff and might be more easily available/cheaper in Australia than some premium euro brands.

 

[submariner]

You could easily but 2 good torque wrenches for that kind or money
I'd add Norbar to my list of manufacturers.

I checked Norbar but nothing in 3/8" drive with similar range (from <10Nm to >130Nm).

You're right I could buy two like the norm but I'm trying to be a minimalist because two torque wrenches won't fit my Hazet 166N cart

 

[submariner]

you'll still need two if by "bike" you mean bicycle and not motorcycle...

Facom makes some of their wrenches in Italy at a USAG plant and rebrands other stuff from the US(seen some CDI) and Taiwan.

you can also check Norbar and Tohnichi(from Japan) that do make great stuff and might be more easily available/cheaper in Australia than some premium euro brands.

By "bike" I mean bicycle.

Interesting now that you mentioned CDI, they do have a similar range 3/8" torque wrench but not so good in the lower range: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000I1UTI4/?tag=atomicindus08-20

I also checked Tohnichi's PDF catalogue but can't find anything similar.

I bought most of my tools from Europe, FYI it's cheaper for me to buy Euro made tools than Europeans to buy Euro made tools because I don't have to pay 20% VAT and there's no import tax to Australia for items less than $1000 (mail or courier) and shipping cost is negligible compared to VAT.

Thanks for your help.

 

[cosmik binturong]

By "bike" I mean by bicycle.

get a torque screwdriver then, it will fit well in your Assistent along with a bigger wrench.

you'll pretty much need an accurate one from around 2~3Nm to 10~15Nm for a modern bike with light parts(Al, C and Ti), not much between 15 and 30~35Nm and then you're in 3/8" territory with cassette lockrings or bottom brackets that are all under 60Nm so you can use that bigger wrench for those and be in the "accurate" zone(20% to 100%).

if you want/need an electronic one, the PB Swiss one sold by Garant is a good choice for bike use.

Interesting now that you mentioned CDI, they do have a similar range 3/8" torque wrench but not so good in the lower range: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000I1UTI4/?tag=atomicindus08-20

I also checked Tohnichi's PDF catalogue but can't find anything similar.

that CDI + the Garant one would be a great combination methinks... and still fit in your budget.