Tools from the old world
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upgrading
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Looks sharp !
Reed Prince
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Just watched this Factory Gear YT video. I wonder if this is rebranded Facom or if USAG produced the original product.
measuredtwice
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Sounds good!
Dave455
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Just watched this Factory Gear YT video. I wonder if this is rebranded Facom or if USAG produced the original product.
Most of the decent Facom ratchets were Italian made anyway, so I assume by USAG. They made their own line of tools that was a little cheaper, but not always quite the same standard of finish, and not all the styles. They were always good value for European made tools.
Both Facom and USAG are owned by Stanley Black and Decker now, so any differences between the two are just branding. I believe most of the sockets are Taiwanese now anyway, from both brands, as are the ‘New / Improved’ ratchets! A lot of the older /better designs are still available though, so I assume still Italian made! Some have been dropped though.
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Just watched this Factory Gear YT video. I wonder if this is rebranded Facom or if USAG produced the original product.
Didn’t see the video but I’ve had one of those “D Box” sets in 1/2” drive from Facom for a while.
pizza
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****. i love gedore rotband hammers
here's the IH-500 (500g, induction hardened striking faces, hickory handle):
here's the IH-500 (500g, induction hardened striking faces, hickory handle):
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Photography comp to win gold plated cobras.
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measuredtwice
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Kasal
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Cool. Haven't seen those before. Are they for some sort of specialised use or simply a tough hammer? Just wondering if the hardening makes them brittle for an impact tool?
You should enter. The photos in your forum posts always look professional.
Thank you. Think my pics will be too boring. There are some Instagram posters on here with more artistic pics that I think may be in with a chance.
pizza
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i think it just makes it harder wearing. so far no chipping.
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3007080#post3007080
i found this post that seems like it linked to some interesting info about it, but unfortunately, the linked info is gone.
pizza
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The black/blue effect from the hardening looks similar to what you see on plier cutters. I guess they know what they are doing. It looks badass anyway
lol. yes, exactly. honestly i'm sure the normal, non-hardened version would be good enough, but i just wanted to treat myself to the induction hardened one.
it looks cooler, and that's mainly why i got it. it wasn't much more expensive.
Dave455
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lol. yes, exactly. honestly i'm sure the normal, non-hardened version would be good enough, but i just wanted to treat myself to the induction hardened one.
it looks cooler, and that's mainly why i got it. it wasn't much more expensive.
The normal hammers are hardened, just not “induction hardened”
I believe that the induction hardening helps to prevent chipping at the edge, which seems to be a particular problem with German style hammers.
I quite like the German pattern hammer for some uses (they’re good for getting in to corners). The Habero “Rotband” are one of the best, even without the induction hardening.
I like the extra reinforcement round the handle, and the “Rotband Plus” with the screwed cap on the head is even better, but still allows handles to be replaced!
Habero used to offer a sort of plastic “cap” that fits over the hammer head to convert it to a soft face hammer. This is great for a road box as it saves you having to carry two tools. I don’t know why more manufacturers don’t offer these.
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I have a few Gedore/Habero hangers, but this is my only Rotband Plus. I quite like it.
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NOS Rabone Chesterman 65R steel rule (Made in England)
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Jack84
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Muller level.
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I think you should enter, lots of time to think of a good picture idea!
I just went for my "usual" square flatlay. If you can please go to the competition page and vote for me:
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Proxxon 22 282 bit screwdriver with quick release.
No Coo. Guessing Taiwan or China. Pretty sure Draper VDE screwdrivers use handles from the same source.
Quick release bit holder may take inspiration from Wiha quick release. The pull part looks gold to me in these pics, looks more orange in person.
Info on the end.
The 'nubs' are very soft rubber.
Comparison to Wiha bit screwdriver.
Diameter of Wiha non quick release bit holder compared to Proxxon quick release.
More traditional bit holder compared to Proxxon.
No Coo. Guessing Taiwan or China. Pretty sure Draper VDE screwdrivers use handles from the same source.
Quick release bit holder may take inspiration from Wiha quick release.
The pull part looks gold to me in these pics, looks more orange in person.
Info on the end.
The 'nubs' are very soft rubber.
Comparison to Wiha bit screwdriver.
Diameter of Wiha non quick release bit holder compared to Proxxon quick release.
More traditional bit holder compared to Proxxon.
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measuredtwice
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Nice photos, Mr. Lemons. I wonder about the similarity of the handle shape to Ko-Ken. I know its come up in the past but I don't know if there was ever a conclusion about the COO. Ko-ken is marked Japan but the others were from Taiwan or China IIRC. Don't know if they're copying each other or sourcing parts from each other.
ultgar
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Just watched this Factory Gear YT video. I wonder if this is rebranded Facom or if USAG produced the original product.
Facom and USAG are basically the same company. Lots of cross branding. USAG is typically cheaper with US warranty.
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measuredtwice
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The handles do look like they come from the same manufacturer. Maybe Ko-ken coo is for the metal part only.
No idea if it's a matter of Made in Country X with parts from Country Y or if it's just copying.
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Stubby bit-driver for Wiha's compact double-sided bits.
https://www.wihatools.com/14inone-stubby-multi-bit-driver
https://www.wihatools.com/14inone-stubby-multi-bit-driver
Jack84
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neophyte
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Muller level.
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Is this Vintage or New Old Stock, or are these still made?
3M sandpaper
I saw a utub vid comparison on 3M Cubitron recently, it looked like the duck's guts. Way more durable than the Festool of Mirka equivalents. Have been meaning to source some.
Box of bits arrived from Dieter Schmidt Fine-Tools:
Jessem Clear-Cut Stock guides going on my Festool CMS router table. Made in Canada, the finish is about the best I've seen for quite a while.
F.**** Saw Files in a few sizes, with black plastic handles (plastic crush collets) from F.****.
Some screw removal plies Made in Japan from Engineer: PZ-59, PZ-60; these have interesting jaws with interlocking serrations. And a damaged screw extractor DBZ-60G.
A few Nail Pullers Made in Japan Dogyu and Mokuba. Could have used them two days ago; extracted about 60 staples from a shipping crate I have repurposed into a hand plane cupboard.
A set of thin metric spanners Asahi.
Been wanting the Starrett Protractor for a while.
30 red push on file handles in three sizes - another F.**** item.
And some Silbergleit AT LAST!
Jessem Clear-Cut Stock guides going on my Festool CMS router table. Made in Canada, the finish is about the best I've seen for quite a while.
F.**** Saw Files in a few sizes, with black plastic handles (plastic crush collets) from F.****.
Some screw removal plies Made in Japan from Engineer: PZ-59, PZ-60; these have interesting jaws with interlocking serrations. And a damaged screw extractor DBZ-60G.
A few Nail Pullers Made in Japan Dogyu and Mokuba. Could have used them two days ago; extracted about 60 staples from a shipping crate I have repurposed into a hand plane cupboard.
A set of thin metric spanners Asahi.
Been wanting the Starrett Protractor for a while.
30 red push on file handles in three sizes - another F.**** item.
And some Silbergleit AT LAST!
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upgrading
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That looks like a nice tool.
Jack84
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This one is vintage I think? Seller was cleaning out his shed.
Muller also makes chisels.