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Its chinese.
Tools from the old world
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Its chinese.
I don't think I've even seen a utility knife of any kind in any store I've been to in the past few years that was NOT made in china. Well there is one that Stanley makes which is made in the US of "global materials" but that's about it. I've got a fixed blade Lennox that was made in china which works pretty well and a few of the Stanley ones I mentioned which don't seem to last that long as the blade retracting mechanism breaks pretty easily. Anyone else know of any that are totally made in the USA and of good quality? Or, perhaps some euro ones that are not prohibitively expensive? 
Theloniousmonk
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I don't think I've even seen a utility knife of any kind in any store I've been to in the past few years that was NOT made in china. Well there is one that Stanley makes which is made in the US of "global materials" but that's about it. I've got a fixed blade Lennox that was made in china which works pretty well and a few of the Stanley ones I mentioned which don't seem to last that long as the blade retracting mechanism breaks pretty easily. Anyone else know of any that are totally made in the USA and of good quality? Or, perhaps some euro ones that are not prohibitively expensive?
Ofla offered a nice knife made in japan at one point a couple years ago, don't know if they still make em in japan though.
isb cornbinder
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QUOTE: (tool addicts of the world UNITE!) I don't think this is a good idea. I might have to share and then I wouldn't have 145 pairs of vise-grips. I have enough vise-grips to assemble a 1926 model T Ford so that it would look like a real car instead of a pile of parts. It sold immediately, w/o the vise-grips.
isb cornbinder
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A chicken is an animal and therefore cannot be innocent in the same sense that humans can be guilty or innocent.
Cantause
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@ Servito, nice avatar! however, new minis are for girls or metrosexuals 
just kidding
@ Automatique: There is no COO on the knife, at least that I've noticed, so Hazet is probably right, chinese... at least Farnell's website says China but it's not always accurate.
That said, it would have been written "Swiss" on it, I would have believed it! it's heavy, the folding mechanism is smooth and all the parts fall into place with precision, 12€ well spent!? time will tell...
Concerning the ERDI snips, Bessey's website says that they're still made in Bietigheim, Germany
@Georgek & American lockpicker:
I bought Vallorbe's because machinists seem to consider them as top notch, I don't know much about files but they're not in the same league than the DIY's I used before! nor the used Nicholson of my father...
Sounds good to "have" somebody inside, do you know if Vallorbe organize factory visits?
By the way as you're swiss, do you know if, in general, the small factories in Switzerland organize factory visits or prefer to keep their secrets far from foreign eyes and concentrate on their work?
just kidding@ Automatique: There is no COO on the knife, at least that I've noticed, so Hazet is probably right, chinese... at least Farnell's website says China but it's not always accurate.
That said, it would have been written "Swiss" on it, I would have believed it! it's heavy, the folding mechanism is smooth and all the parts fall into place with precision, 12€ well spent!? time will tell...
Concerning the ERDI snips, Bessey's website says that they're still made in Bietigheim, Germany
@Georgek & American lockpicker:
I bought Vallorbe's because machinists seem to consider them as top notch, I don't know much about files but they're not in the same league than the DIY's I used before! nor the used Nicholson of my father...
Sounds good to "have" somebody inside, do you know if Vallorbe organize factory visits?
By the way as you're swiss, do you know if, in general, the small factories in Switzerland organize factory visits or prefer to keep their secrets far from foreign eyes and concentrate on their work?
impulse922
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Hi guys!
Bessey folding knife, a bit pricey for a knife (12€) but it feel robust, no play at all, the thumb pad makes it comfortable when cutting thick rubber. Blades are sharp, plastic is really soft, between plastic and rubber, I always have it in my pocket now
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I have Kobalt(lowe's) box cutter that is exactly the same(blue instead of orange), the weak part seems to be the rivets on the belt clip.
american lockpicker
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I don't think I've even seen a utility knife of any kind in any store I've been to in the past few years that was NOT made in china. Well there is one that Stanley makes which is made in the US of "global materials" but that's about it. I've got a fixed blade Lennox that was made in china which works pretty well and a few of the Stanley ones I mentioned which don't seem to last that long as the blade retracting mechanism breaks pretty easily. Anyone else know of any that are totally made in the USA and of good quality? Or, perhaps some euro ones that are not prohibitively expensive?
Good post I've been wondering about that myself. Also I wonder if Stanley UK makes ones as they already make blades for them(or used to.)
Nice hand + power tools you bought !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kress 1050 FME milling spindle for my small CNC router, it will replace the 300W that came with it. Now I'll have a "real" spindle with collet chuck and without play, haaa no more noisy cheap bearing sounds
nice ! Do you have a pic of your router ?
sweeeeeet !!
wow not that cheap..... hopefully they can help you ....
do you know "Casals" and "Virutex" power tools from spain ?
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haha lol wie geil !!!!!!!
Looks good !!!
nice ! I mean the tool
Do you have a pic of all the tools ?btw. the new updated (and upgraded) Heyco tools website:
www.heyco-tools.de
servito
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@aspera, this Mini is amazing, hope next year WRC there will be more competition and not only Citröen winning everything.
@Cantause, thank you for your opinion about my avatar; and not a memeber of any of those groups, not a metrosexual and even less a girl
@Cantause, thank you for your opinion about my avatar; and not a memeber of any of those groups, not a metrosexual and even less a girl
servito
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do you know "Casals" and "Virutex" power tools from spain ?
haha lol wie geil !!!!!!!
Looks good !!!
Well I know the brand (Casals) for more than ten years, although not very much, because it always seemed to me a low end brand, in every catalog their products were on the cheapest side and with less features than other international brands. I may be wrong, but I think they are now owned by another catalan brand (Taurus).
And for Virutex, I know they are focused on the wood market and they seem to be addressed to the professionals, so they are not on the cheap side.
I'm glad you and Aspera like my new avatar, thanks to wikipedia, photoshop and some imagination of mine
servito
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Some may have already seen these from different threads, but it fits in here...
Wera Kraftform Kompakt with BDC (diamond) bits:
SEK (Suekage Tool) Pro-auto 48-tooth 1/4" bit ratchet (New Tools in Taiwan is the OEM):
Superautobacs, I would like to know what's your opinion about the Wera Kraftform Kompakt, I was thinking about getting one, but I don't know about their quality.
Has it got a lot (or any) play when fastening, since the shank and the handle are not once piece?
And do you think it is robust, do you hear any cracking of the plastic when you squeeze it?
And about the Suekage bit ratchet, are you happy with it?
I have the Wera bit ratchet and I find it a tad small to handle (small and thin), it seems as if it was about to slip from my hands.
How much did it cost to you?
Thank you very much.
superautobacs
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Hi Servito,
As others have mentioned, great avatar.
It got me wondering if it was Knipex's crest from decades ago. If you haven't read it yet, here's one of my earliest posts dedicated to the Kompakt driver: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28001&highlight=kompakt It should give you a better idea of the quality.
Over the years, I've used it on several occassions to make adjustments on household hardware and assembling some furniture. The bayonet, in full extension does have some play, but it's at a level that doesn't annoy me or hinder me from completing the job at hand. I'm sure Monte, who has the Wiha System 6 ....or 4? can chime in as well. He actually measured the amount of play on that, and IIRC, it had minimal play.
The composite material is robust enough; I've never been worried about the strength of the gripping area. The only thing that annoyed me was when, some time earlier this year, I hit the "PRESS" button and the thing opened up only half way. I had to manually assist it to open all the way. I did spray some dry PTFE spray to reduce friction between the peices and it's since been working fine.
The SEK is made by the same company that makes the Wera version. I don't have the receipt in front of me, but I think it was around $20 with that red case and a super low-profile PH#2 bit. I don't have a picture of it, but it's even shallower than the Anex PH#2 pictured below. FWIW, I don't use the Wera BDC (diamond coated) bits anymore, unless I know it's going to be a stuck fastener--the coating wears off with not much use on it.
I've also used this guy for dis/assembly of some furniture and a couple times in an automotive setting, and it was fine (low torque usesage). I'm very happy with it.
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superautobacs
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Cantause,
Is this file handle made in Italy? Your Vallorbe one is identical to the older Nicholson file handles which, quite surprisingly, are made in Italy.
BTW, nice purchases.
american lockpicker
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Picked these up today as I had 5 hours to waste in town today. Good for my collection but bad for my wallet...
BTW photobucket changed.
BTW photobucket changed.
Theloniousmonk
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good finds americanlockpicker! i love my SK suregrips... let me know what you think of the vapor blasted tip after some use...
waht is the wolfcraft tool? o2 socket? strut nut socket? can't tell...
waht is the wolfcraft tool? o2 socket? strut nut socket? can't tell...
american lockpicker
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Sorry about the pic quality its been a long day. The stanley is razor blades(last pack in lowes) and the Wolfcraft is drill bit collars so you don't drill to deep.
Also I found an SK dealer today that has a ton of French made screwdrivers and US made ratchets, sockets and wrenches.
Deskmechanic
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That bit ratchet sure looks like the gearwrench one that I bought a while back on sale.
My new toys. It is difficult to find these in any brand in my little city much less to find them in my favorite brand.
This set has 8, 10, 12, 13, 17 and 19mm sizes. Add my older ones in and I now have 8mm to 19mm missing only 16 and 18mm. That really won't be a problem to me.
This set has 8, 10, 12, 13, 17 and 19mm sizes. Add my older ones in and I now have 8mm to 19mm missing only 16 and 18mm. That really won't be a problem to me.
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Where did you buy the files ???
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What does the "Warning" say on the clamps ???? Warning: Don´t use the clamps ? ?
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Isn´t "Taurus" from Aldi ???? Found some posts about Taurus at Aldi......
i thought you might have some Virutex tools
Surprisingly there are only 2 Virutex tools on ebay.es !?? Not very common in Espana ?
@Gmonkee:
nice ratcheting wrenches !!!!
I visited a former employer of me and took some pics:
Kress jigsaw
Wurth hot air gun
Metabo angle grinder
Metabo sander
Metabo drill
Metabo hammer drill
Beha + Fluke tools
Bosch bench grinder
Dalex stick welder
Portasol soldering tool
Peddinghaus metal shear
Where did you buy the files ???
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What does the "Warning" say on the clamps ???? Warning: Don´t use the clamps ?
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Well I know the brand (Casals) for more than ten years, although not very much, because it always seemed to me a low end brand, in every catalog their products were on the cheapest side and with less features than other international brands. I may be wrong, but I think they are now owned by another catalan brand (Taurus).
And for Virutex, I know they are focused on the wood market and they seem to be addressed to the professionals, so they are not on the cheap side.
I'm glad you and Aspera like my new avatar, thanks to wikipedia, photoshop and some imagination of mine
Isn´t "Taurus" from Aldi ???? Found some posts about Taurus at Aldi......
i thought you might have some Virutex tools
Surprisingly there are only 2 Virutex tools on ebay.es !?? Not very common in Espana ?
@Gmonkee:
nice ratcheting wrenches !!!!
I visited a former employer of me and took some pics:
Kress jigsaw
Wurth hot air gun
Metabo angle grinder
Metabo sander
Metabo drill
Metabo hammer drill
Beha + Fluke tools
Bosch bench grinder
Dalex stick welder
Portasol soldering tool
Peddinghaus metal shear
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Theloniousmonk
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holy hell, monte, that bosch bench grinder is awesome!
tonydanzah
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My new toys. It is difficult to find these in any brand in my little city much less to find them in my favorite brand.
This set has 8, 10, 12, 13, 17 and 19mm sizes. Add my older ones in and I now have 8mm to 19mm missing only 16 and 18mm. That really won't be a problem to me.
those look like rebadged gearwrench, are they made in germany?
yeah it´s cool huh !! Hopefully they´ll sell it to me one day
Looks pretty beefy. Everything built a little bit thicker than nowadays...
TonyD, they are rebadged gearwrench. I love em all the same as they go in where my big old hands won't and save me a bunch of frustration.
They bear all the earmarks of taiwanese gearwrench, but there are no "made in ......" statements anywhere in the packaging.
They bear all the earmarks of taiwanese gearwrench, but there are no "made in ......" statements anywhere in the packaging.
billymade
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That bessey knife is interesting! I have a Sears Craftsman version; they sold for awhile, just like it! I wonder who the OEM is?
I visited a trade fair for electricians/plumbers on friday and took some pics:
Klauke crimping tools and wire stripper
Klauke insulated tools
Klauke cordless crimping tool. Note the Makita battery. Tool itself is "Made in Germany"
more Klauke crimping tools
Klauke crimping tool with exchangeable heads
Intercable cable tools
Intercable crimping tools
"Intercable" high leverage sidecutter
Intercable cordless crimping tool
Cimco wire strippers
Cimco "Diamant Plus" insulated pliers
Fluke booth
The Knipex / Wera / Stabila booth
Knipex. Too many tools for a too small table (ok they also offer many pliers )
The new Wera ratcheting screwdriver. Very nice feel, fine tooth (45 teeth) Sweet !
www.rems.de booth
Rems "Tiger VE" Tigersäge/"Tiger saw" a.k.a. reciprocating saw a.k.a. sawzall a.k.a. sabre saw
Ridgid pressing tool.
Battery pack interestingly "Made in Germany" (or assembled...... by www.bmz-gmbh.de )
A tool store had a booth there too displaying several brands like Dewalt, KS-Tools and Eibenstock. Another store had Milwaukee tools on display. Played around with their 10,8 Volt tools
(Interestingly the new Milwaukee M12 hammer drill had a chuck "Made in Japan" )
Other brands had a booth too like Wiha, Weidmüller and Weitkowitz as well as 100´s others but without tools
Klauke crimping tools and wire stripper
Klauke insulated tools
Klauke cordless crimping tool. Note the Makita battery
. Tool itself is "Made in Germany"
more Klauke crimping tools
Klauke crimping tool with exchangeable heads
Intercable cable tools
Intercable crimping tools
"Intercable" high leverage sidecutter
Intercable cordless crimping tool
Cimco wire strippers
Cimco "Diamant Plus" insulated pliers
Fluke booth
The Knipex / Wera / Stabila booth
Knipex. Too many tools for a too small table
(ok they also offer many pliers )
The new Wera ratcheting screwdriver. Very nice feel, fine tooth (45 teeth) Sweet !
www.rems.de booth
Rems "Tiger VE" Tigersäge/"Tiger saw" a.k.a. reciprocating saw a.k.a. sawzall a.k.a. sabre saw
Ridgid pressing tool.
Battery pack interestingly "Made in Germany" (or assembled...... by www.bmz-gmbh.de )
A tool store had a booth there too displaying several brands like Dewalt, KS-Tools and Eibenstock. Another store had Milwaukee tools on display. Played around with their 10,8 Volt tools
(Interestingly the new Milwaukee M12 hammer drill had a chuck "Made in Japan"
)Other brands had a booth too like Wiha, Weidmüller and Weitkowitz as well as 100´s others but without tools
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Krokodil
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Nice pics Monte!
billymade
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OMG.... just beautiful tools! I can "spy" the famous wire strippers that are sold under many brands here in the USA... Snap-On, ideal, etc.!
Theloniousmonk
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yeah it´s cool huh !! Hopefully they´ll sell it to me one day
Looks pretty beefy. Everything built a little bit thicker than nowadays...
VERY teutonic in design. I really like the 1 piece bearing case castings... it must weigh a ton. Let me know if they ever do hand it over to you
Great pics from the show too! Some of those crimpers and cutters look very interesting, especially the Intercable stuff (are they a manufactuerer or a rebrander?). I wonder why Knipex/Wera/Stabila shared a booth.
AutomatiquE
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@Monte : Nice photos, thank you
Thanks @ all !
@billymade: ...made by Jokari or Weicon
The Snap-on "PWC22A" and the Ideal "Grip-N-Strip" are made by Weicon in Germany (click)
@theloniousmonk:
there is a cooperation between Wera, Knipex, Stabila, Bessey and Parat:
http://www.qfaktor.de
http://www.wera.de/fileadmin/user_upload/homepage/100208_GB_Qfaktor_Messeaugabe_WERA.pdf
btw. Stabila showed their new "Pocket" levels: http://www.stabila.de/
The "Intercable" tools pictured are rebranded NWS pliers and Wezag crimpers. I don´t know what exactly they make, but the "Made in Germany" stuff is rebadged but they also have a own production. www.intercable.it
on the right you can click the catalog: http://www.intercable.it/Home.aspx?Lang=en-US§or=tools
I think they mainly make insulated tools, or the insulation itself.
ps:
Most of the tools from "Cimco", "Klauke", "Intercable" etc. are rebranded. The original manufacturers can be identified as: NWS, Felo, Knipex, Wezag, Weicon, Jokari and Pressmaster ("Cimco" pliers are from VBW i think). The large crimping tools like this however are made by "Klauke" and "Weitkowitz" themself. "Weidmüller" and "Pressmaster" still make their own crimping/stripping tools.
@billymade: ...made by Jokari or Weicon
The Snap-on "PWC22A" and the Ideal "Grip-N-Strip" are made by Weicon in Germany (click)
@theloniousmonk:
there is a cooperation between Wera, Knipex, Stabila, Bessey and Parat:
http://www.qfaktor.de
http://www.wera.de/fileadmin/user_upload/homepage/100208_GB_Qfaktor_Messeaugabe_WERA.pdf
btw. Stabila showed their new "Pocket" levels: http://www.stabila.de/
The "Intercable" tools pictured are rebranded NWS pliers and Wezag crimpers. I don´t know what exactly they make, but the "Made in Germany" stuff is rebadged but they also have a own production. www.intercable.it
on the right you can click the catalog: http://www.intercable.it/Home.aspx?Lang=en-US§or=tools
I think they mainly make insulated tools, or the insulation itself.
ps:
Most of the tools from "Cimco", "Klauke", "Intercable" etc. are rebranded. The original manufacturers can be identified as: NWS, Felo, Knipex, Wezag, Weicon, Jokari and Pressmaster ("Cimco" pliers are from VBW i think). The large crimping tools like this however are made by "Klauke" and "Weitkowitz" themself. "Weidmüller" and "Pressmaster" still make their own crimping/stripping tools.
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Theloniousmonk
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thanks monte! you also reminded me I "need" a wera bitratchet...
Also good to see wera promoted Ralf Joesch!
Also good to see wera promoted Ralf Joesch!
american lockpicker
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Klauke cordless crimping tool. Note the Makita battery
Looks like they copied this.
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Also was any of the dewalts there made in Germany? I've been looking locally and couldn't find a German Dewalt XRP like Moose has.
Theloniousmonk
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Looks like they copied this.
...
Um, wtf is that?
american lockpicker
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Its a ray gun from Stargate.
Theloniousmonk
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Oooooooooooh... now I see.... cool! I wonder what the POO is on that.