Jeff
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Holy &^%@ Batman!
That made me laugh. We pulled something almost exactly like that out of a guy's **** last weekend.
Those damn Swiss....lol
Tools from the old world
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Holy &^%@ Batman!
That made me laugh. We pulled something almost exactly like that out of a guy's **** last weekend.
Those damn Swiss....lol
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Krokodil
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I like the makita stuff!
Counted the teeth, should be 52 teeth. The ratchet looks nice and is really small. The black gearwheel at the top of the head is useful and easy to handle with one finger. Moreover if you own something like Gedore 673 K, the world smallest 1/4" ratchtet ever will be yours. Removing the 4mm Bit adapter from the ratchtet is hell. But the bit handle will be enough (and faster) in most of the cases. My main reason to purchase the set was to collect some 4mm bits, because i didn't owned any. Why did you bought the ratchets?
btw:
gedore (expensive)
ks-tools (20 euro)
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acer66
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Some of my nicer stuff
Hi everybody! I'm Gedore-seller from Russia. My english is bad, but i hope that we can communicate
Hello! Since nobody asked the important question that comes to mind when seeing your avatar, i will do. Which size you got there and how much does it cost?
dkroth
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Hello! Since nobody asked the important question that comes to mind when seeing your avatar, i will do. Which size you got there and how much does it cost?
Before RusBert responds I'm going to guess that the wrench is a prop. If it were real steel, it would weigh 100+ pounds!
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ilya
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1/4" socket set from the USSR
I bought this Soviet-made 1/4" socket set on EBay a few years ago, mostly out of curiosity. The ratcheting handle has very low tooth count and has a rough feel to it. The chrome looks pretty good. Sockets are machined rather crudely. Tray insert is very thin and flimsy, making it hard to take out extensions.
Back in the day this set cost 17 rubles (the price is stamped on the tray insert). In prices of late 1980s, 17 rubles would buy 1.5 bottles of Stoli or about 80 loaves of rye bread.
I bought this Soviet-made 1/4" socket set on EBay a few years ago, mostly out of curiosity. The ratcheting handle has very low tooth count and has a rough feel to it. The chrome looks pretty good. Sockets are machined rather crudely. Tray insert is very thin and flimsy, making it hard to take out extensions.
Back in the day this set cost 17 rubles (the price is stamped on the tray insert). In prices of late 1980s, 17 rubles would buy 1.5 bottles of Stoli or about 80 loaves of rye bread.
RusBert
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Hello! Since nobody asked the important question that comes to mind when seeing your avatar, i will do. Which size you got there and how much does it cost?
Greetings!
@epiphany, it's combination spanner 1 B model by 80 mm (~ 3 5/32 inch). It cost about 500 Euro.
@dkroth, it's real stuff of weight about 20 pounds (9 kilograms). You can order it from Gedore site to make sure of it existing
Just joke, about ordering But about existing it's true.@ilya Interesting set, never see it before.
superautobacs
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@Ilya,
That's very interesting; thanks for sharing.
Those cold forged sockets are quite crudely made, indeed. They spend minimal time in cleaning up the sockets before they get a chrome bathing.
The ratcheting handle is surprisingly quite similar to a Japanese one I have, under the brand "WISE". Same style handle. I should take pictures of mine and post it for comparisons sake.
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@GeorgeK,
Nice, cute little guy there. I'm curious how accurate the open-end flats are to being 5.5mm. Can you measure it with a caliper?
That's very interesting; thanks for sharing.
Those cold forged sockets are quite crudely made, indeed. They spend minimal time in cleaning up the sockets before they get a chrome bathing.
The ratcheting handle is surprisingly quite similar to a Japanese one I have, under the brand "WISE". Same style handle. I should take pictures of mine and post it for comparisons sake.
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@GeorgeK,
Nice, cute little guy there. I'm curious how accurate the open-end flats are to being 5.5mm. Can you measure it with a caliper?
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airbuff101
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In the very early 90's a couple of young guys from the Eastern Bloc showed up to work at a VW dealer. 2 of them brought along small carry boxes from their homeland and showed them to me. The mechanics tools were marked USSR and looked like they were hand forged......with a rock. Very crude stuff that reminded me of turn of century wagon tools....without the finesse....
Nowadays I'm guessing they produce some nice stuff but back then it was the dark ages compared to U.S./European tools.
Rob
.Nowadays I'm guessing they produce some nice stuff but back then it was the dark ages compared to U.S./European tools.
Rob
lol sounds good
But i think quality is more important than design, ergonomics too. Some of the best tools have a rather old, traditional design, no "bling bling" hollywood design with all kinds of colorful buttons and rubber handles or a design inspired by the "Alien" movies and "H.R. Giger" like Hitachi
for example where the designer team cost more than the tool to engineer. You only have to make "designer hand/power tools" for DIY consumers to convince them to buy them, the professional looks for technical data and functionality. Of course a tool can look modern but still sophisticated like Fein, Mafell or Festool. Some of the best power tools made today have a old design but are the best quality - "tank quality" like back in the days built for the eternity what is mostly not available anymore from the companies who fight against each other to increase the market share and where the priority is not to offer the best tool you can build but to offer a tool which can be sold for 99.95, 129.- or 149.- etc. and where the shareholders of the company demand their money...Some examples of my favourite power tools with an old or non fancy design
of current production:
lol
but cheap prices and good quality pushing me two days ago to order one E-113A rotary hammer for home. *click* I think it would take a week or two to consider my request
nice ! Couldn´t find any prices ? How much руб is is ?
This is photos of one. It was used for 2 years without repairing and even brush replacing.
looks good !
Thank you !
Is that count?
yes that counts
ah ok !
Btw, Monte & Cantause, thnx for bench grinder discussion – it’s been interesting. I’m also need one, to sharpen my Ochsenkopf axe.
thanks for the clarification where the tools are from !
Who is this? Never see him before
lol i found the brand in an online shop searching for "Baikal", but will be coo PRC too
What Russian brand (with coo PRC) do you need?
That´s what i was looking for ! Thanks !
"Maggita" lol ! 0% is not that much
But with that name..... I wonder that i don´t see "Narex, "Perles" and "Iskra" but probably below 1% too..
@Bhae:
nice Makita + Maktec tools !
@Automatique:
most likely PRC. Most of the Makita stuff seems to be from there now. The quality of the tools seems to be going down (sharp edges where plastic parts meet , plastic motor housing don´t line up to the gear case, grinding marks at the metal parts, 2 different blue colors on one tool etc.) Same with Hitachi, i now even see drills with "Harvest" brand chucks..... Since when do they make quality chucks ???
For a "Dual Drill" ok.... but....Some of my nicer stuff
nice !!! Do you have a larger pic of the blue/yellow Rahsol torque wrench ??
@ilya:
interesting tool set !!!
Hammerhans
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Hey guys, I must say that I absolutely love this thread, I was looking for some old tools on the net and I stumbled upon this site, after a couple of hours of browsing trough the thread I just had to subscribe to the site!
There are some VERY nice tools here, some of which I now plan to get myself! So thank you for posting!
Since this is my first post I'd like to introduce myself as I plan on spending some time here in the future if you don't mind!
To make it short so that we don't go to far off-topic: I'm a 22 year old guy, I live in the Faroe Islands up in the north atlantic. I recently finished business school(this summer) and I went straight of to work at my favorite hardware store in town (Valdemar Lützen) In my spare time I make short movies and video commercials as a hobby and hopefully fulltime job in the future.
Thats that. Now my father who is now retired has given me all his tools, some are still in quite good condition, as soon as I get our camera to work again I will post pictures! aswell as pictures of "exotic" tools from the store which I think are of relevance. I think most of the stuff in the store will fit quite well in here because the one trait we all cherish in tools where I work is QUALITY
Stay tuned!
- Hammerhans
There are some VERY nice tools here, some of which I now plan to get myself! So thank you for posting!
Since this is my first post I'd like to introduce myself as I plan on spending some time here in the future if you don't mind!
To make it short so that we don't go to far off-topic: I'm a 22 year old guy, I live in the Faroe Islands up in the north atlantic. I recently finished business school(this summer) and I went straight of to work at my favorite hardware store in town (Valdemar Lützen) In my spare time I make short movies and video commercials as a hobby and hopefully fulltime job in the future.
Thats that. Now my father who is now retired has given me all his tools, some are still in quite good condition, as soon as I get our camera to work again I will post pictures! aswell as pictures of "exotic" tools from the store which I think are of relevance. I think most of the stuff in the store will fit quite well in here because the one trait we all cherish in tools where I work is QUALITY
Stay tuned!
- Hammerhans
american lockpicker
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Welcome to GJ hammerhans.
RusBert
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Hi, Hammerhans, welcome to the discussion!
acer66
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AutomatiquE
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@acer66 : How old are your torque wrenches ?
@Monte : Thank you for your reply about the coo of makita's.
@Hammerhans : Welcome on board.
@Monte : Thank you for your reply about the coo of makita's.
@Hammerhans : Welcome on board.
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RusBert
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@acer66 - "Rahsol EuroFlex 2002" looks like promo 3550-20. Funny design.
acer66
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Not sure they are all off Ebay, the only one which has some documentation is the yellow one which has original test certificate from 2001 but they all look like barley used.
Is there a way to find that out via their serial no.?
Thank you
@acer66 - "Rahsol EuroFlex 2002" looks like promo 3550-20. Funny design.
The yellow/blue colour combination is one of my favorites
yes thank you !!!! Never saw this design !!
RusBert
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@airbuff101 ...hand forged...with a rock... Sometimes it's really looks ugly.
@Monte
I'm also think, that quality is better than design. I'll tell you later about price, when I'll receive a package.
Good old stuff. I need that Fein drill
it is somehow reminds me my childhood .
@Acer66
4100-01
3550-20(02) of not original design
4101-02 of not original design
Their serials must near handle:
Sometimes it's really looks ugly.@Monte
I'm also think, that quality is better than design. I'll tell you later about price, when I'll receive a package.
Good old stuff. I need that Fein drill
it is somehow reminds me my childhood .@Acer66
to keep it like new, you must turn handle(or handle cap) after work to zero value(min torque) of this model. With this spring of torque wrench don’t “tired” with the time.
As I can see this is Rahsol wrenches by models:
4100-01
3550-20(02) of not original design
4101-02 of not original design
Their serials must near handle:
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acer66
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@Acer66
to keep it like new, you must turn handle(or handle cap) after work to zero value(min torque) of this model. With this spring of torque wrench don’t “tired” with the time.
As I can see this is Rahsol wrenches by models:
4100-01
3550-20(02) of not original design
4101-02 of not original design
Their serials must near handle:
Thanks and yeah I baby these things, they are always turned to zero when not in use and go back in their storage boxes so they do not get nicked.
I just moved and I am in the planning stage of rebuilding/converting the garage, so when I going to get settled in I am going to post some more pics since a lot of my tools fit in the "Tools from the old world" category.
Hammerhans
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Thats a badass angle grinder there Monte. Looks like it has served well but could still go to hell for another 10 years easily. Proper tool that. Heavy built made to last.
As I promised I would have some pictures, I am going to save the best for last, so I will start of with something light and easy, pliers and such. I took these pictures today out in the storage section where we also have a small workshop for fixing powertools and any other stuff that might need repairing and such.
The first one I am pretty sure that Monte knows very well, it's a wheel balance plier, made by Stahwille. I am not sure exacly how old it is, but im guessing it most be around 20 years old or so. maybe more. I honestly can't say.
The next one is of one of my favorite Knipex pliers, Im not sure of the exact english term for it, but roughly translated from faroese, it would be called an adjustable wrench plier. quite ingenious to be honest. We sell 2 different sizes, the one in the picture has a handle of about 10cm. in lenght, the other one is about twice the size or so.
And here is how it works.
Next up is a spirit level which is made for the sole purpose of hanging pictures on the wall, made by one of my favorite companies in the world (Hultafors) when it comes to measurement tools, HAMMERS , axes aswell as crowbars and other tools. pure swedish quality when it's best, makes Bahco pale in comparison. (This is ofcourse speaking of the new generation of Bahco)
One of the most overlooked tools but also one of the most used, is the folding knife, or pocketknife as some call it. Since they were invented people have been trying to improve them in so many ways, but in the end the simple classic is the only one that seems to stand the test of time in my opinion, and it is usually also the most durable at that.
These folding knifes here are Loewen Messer knives, classic german quality, these are knives that last a lifetime, they were very popular around here when my father was young. seems stores stopped selling them a couple of years back. After some convincing we managed to get our sales manager to order them. The older guys who buy at our stores get very nostalgic when they see them. Some of them still have theirs and the blade has been sharpend so much that its perhaps only 1/5 of its original size.
Next up is an old beast from the old world and it's a Samson bench grinder from I donno when, probobly the 70's perhaps even older.
It still works flawlessly.
More pictures coming very soon
As I promised I would have some pictures, I am going to save the best for last, so I will start of with something light and easy
, pliers and such. I took these pictures today out in the storage section where we also have a small workshop for fixing powertools and any other stuff that might need repairing and such.The first one I am pretty sure that Monte knows very well, it's a wheel balance plier, made by Stahwille. I am not sure exacly how old it is, but im guessing it most be around 20 years old or so. maybe more. I honestly can't say.
The next one is of one of my favorite Knipex pliers, Im not sure of the exact english term for it, but roughly translated from faroese, it would be called an adjustable wrench plier. quite ingenious to be honest. We sell 2 different sizes, the one in the picture has a handle of about 10cm. in lenght, the other one is about twice the size or so.
And here is how it works.
Next up is a spirit level which is made for the sole purpose of hanging pictures on the wall, made by one of my favorite companies in the world (Hultafors) when it comes to measurement tools, HAMMERS
, axes aswell as crowbars and other tools. pure swedish quality when it's best, makes Bahco pale in comparison. (This is ofcourse speaking of the new generation of Bahco)
One of the most overlooked tools but also one of the most used, is the folding knife, or pocketknife as some call it. Since they were invented people have been trying to improve them in so many ways, but in the end the simple classic is the only one that seems to stand the test of time in my opinion, and it is usually also the most durable at that.
These folding knifes here are Loewen Messer knives, classic german quality, these are knives that last a lifetime, they were very popular around here when my father was young. seems stores stopped selling them a couple of years back. After some convincing we managed to get our sales manager to order them. The older guys who buy at our stores get very nostalgic when they see them. Some of them still have theirs and the blade has been sharpend so much that its perhaps only 1/5 of its original size.
Next up is an old beast from the old world and it's a Samson bench grinder from I donno when, probobly the 70's perhaps even older.
It still works flawlessly.
More pictures coming very soon
superautobacs
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I'd say that's as good as it gets.
...and thank you sir!Hammerhans,
Another welcome from me.
Not to interrupt here, but I just wanted to post this up before I forget:
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acer66
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I just bought these which are the slim version of the one you have
and Knipex calls them Hightech Water Pump Pliers.
american lockpicker
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I just ordered a set of Facom pozidriv screwdrivers that are made in France.
Last set in stock too.
Last set in stock too.
Theloniousmonk
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I just ordered a set of Facom pozidriv screwdrivers that are made in France.
Last set in stock too.
from the ultgrg? you *******. j/k - great pickup!
american lockpicker
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Sure is.
I was careful not to mention them on here as it was the last set and I didn't want anyone else buying them. Theloniousmonk
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Sure is.
I've done a bit of ninja purchasing as well... very hard not to say anything.
I just ordered a set of Facom pozidriv screwdrivers that are made in France.
I'm not sure if you'll be pleased or cross about this, but Facom screwdrivers are still made in France
AutomatiquE
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@american lockpicker : Nice find, i still own one or two of those old school Facom's drivers. I actually prefer them to the new ones.
@Hammerhans : very nice start sir !
@Hammerhans : very nice start sir
!american lockpicker
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I'm not sure if you'll be pleased or cross about this, but Facom screwdrivers are still made in France
I thought they were made in Czech Republic now
anyways its great news although I might have gone with the latest version had I known...american lockpicker
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Just ordered this.
I thought they were made in Czech Republic now
They appear to be made by Bost in Arbois, the colour coded collars, which are imprinted "France", are identical to those of the Bost Expert (aka Stanley Fatmax) screwdrivers.
I wouldn't be upset with your purchase, the older 'drivers are arguably slightly nicer. They had really high specification handles that don't slurp up grease as much as current soft handles (regardless of manufacturer) seem to
Some ******* 'mislaid' my set when I moved house
american lockpicker
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They appear to be made by Bost in Arbois, the colour coded collars, which are imprinted "France", are identical to those of the Bost Expert (aka Stanley Fatmax) screwdrivers.
I wouldn't be upset with your purchase, the older 'drivers are arguably slightly nicer. They had really high specification handles that don't slurp up grease as much as current soft handles (regardless of manufacturer) seem to
Some ******* 'mislaid' my set when I moved house
Hmm what are these Fatmax Stanleys everyone keeps talking about? I looked at Home Despot and seen these Chinese ones but no French ones.
Looks like they used the Chisel handles.
Theloniousmonk
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afaik... the eargotwists that AM.Lockpicker picked up are NLA... I could be wrong though.
very nice tools sir !!!!!
Should be made by Bosch in Germany. The Würth tools somehow look cool in black
more pics of Wurth electric tools please
Just ordered this.
good decision !
BTW:
Made in France !
Stanley Fat Max ---> Made in France ! (Not available in the USA)
these are most likely also made in France (or italy ?), availble as "USAG" too.
Not available in the USA
I visited the "Max Bahr" big box store today from which i already posted some pics here: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1001111&highlight=max+bahr#post1001111 (post # 2587) they now added a wall of Bahco tools right next to the Stanley tools
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