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ultgar

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@ultgar : Are those titane wrenches made in France ?

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I purchased 50 of each size years ago and gave away most of them as gifts to good customers. Unfortunately, many people had no idea what these were and simply discarded them as cheap wrenches as they felt so light. These were part of the original McLaren F1 tool set.


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The last ones I sold were over $350ea....I am keep these last few for myself.

Steve D
Those are way cool!
 

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Or perhaps you have some titanium fasteners on your car....

Unfortunately not, and actually I'm not really a fan of titanium fasteners on a car :)
This is a very neat setup you have :thumbup: what car is it?

Btw I found this blog on google, they show the titanium wrenches that were on Facom's catalogue (I remember seeing them on my father's catalogue when I was a kid) It seems that the gold plating doesn't get old really well :), I wonder what they charged for these, maybe ultgar knows?

I've already posted pics of what's inside, this morning I received this:

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The titanium and carbon fiber used on this Porsche reduced the overall weight by approx 1100 lbs. Facom re-engineered the plating on the later wrenches because of the flaking issue. I never had any of the early wrenches.

SD
 

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I hope that you don't think I was disrespectful about the job done on this car when I talked about the titanium fasteners :)

I just think that titanium fasteners are great as part of an engineered whole using their true potential, which on an existing car would need a complete engineer team to redesign about everything, so basically build a new car...
I'm an engineering student, our teachers always ask us to design efficiently, to use the maximum potential of the parts we draw, I just can't imagine the researches you have to do on all the other parts when you're at a point you need titanium screws to do the job...

However it looks really great and rational in this case :thumbup:
 
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It's difficult to buy a used one here, it's very hard to find quality on the second hand market, or people ask crazy amounts for it. Most of the time I see JET.XL roll cab for sale (empty) people ask more than the price of a new one...

What about places like this: www.troostwijkauctions.com/ ? (For a used one ?)

What about this ? :D
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/GEREEDSCHAP...8?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_123&hash=item3a56a9576c

or this ?
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/03-US-Pro-T..._Tools_Tool_Boxes_Storage&hash=item3a620db20c

Then you have a regular box with top chest and a “carry around” box ? 3 boxes for the price of 1 Facom box ;)

I've seen this Stack-On :))) boxes (18kg) on ebay.de,

Did they reply ??

I'm not sure yet ;)
I was thinking around 100 € (already sold one :)), good for me and for the buyer, it's around 180 list price, can be found cheaper in a good shop or online of course...

Hmmm that’s a good price ! Luckily I have no money right now :D

I was just kidding, the ratio service/price is probably 10 times better than my socket set!
Btw, what does it cost? Do they make them with hex, triangular, star shape?
not really, at least not what you paid for your set compared to the Hazet wrench at 37.- € I think the socket set had a “ok” price (not the list price though ), the Gedore wrench is cheaper though (about 18.-) the wrench only has squares (8,7· 9,5· 10,5· 11,5· 13 mm) and conical squares (6,8-8,7, 10,5-13, 15,2-18, 16,5-19 mm) and a screwdriver blade. There are cheaper ones available…: http://cgi.ebay.de/Universal-Oldien...84?pt=Spezielle_Werkzeuge&hash=item4aa766badc


But Germans have strong arms and cars with well machined plug/oil sump so you don't need more than one finger to do an oil change ;)
They're even so bored of cordless tools that they disassemble them for fun because they prefer to use screwdrivers :lol_hitti

haha lol
That´s right !!! :D

ARGH!
I just had to. It's all Monte's fault. :spit:
Pics will be posted Friday when I bum rush the UPS driver in the street.

:)
nice set !!!! I like their ratchets !!! And even with the older handle !! sweet !! (the new handles look too modern imho). Please post some close up pics of everything :)

It always is :D

:( :D


Here's some BETA items that I've taken pictures of since. (Two more items I haven't taken pics of):

nice chisels !!!!!!! Which pictures do you hide from us ? :)


I've already posted pics of what's inside, this morning I received this:

open them :D


@ultgar:
nice wrenches !!!!




btw Beta: some nice pics of older Beta screwdrivers
http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/taruzann/folder/569972.html?m=lc&p=1
 
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Nice Betas vintage plastic + Euro COO = perfection. :) Also why don't modern tools use plastics like those tools do? Is it because it becomes brittle with age or they moved on to other types to appear more modern?
 
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Nice Betas vintage plastic + Euro COO = pefection. :) Also why don't modern tools use plastics like those tools do? Is it because it becomes brittle with age or they moved on to other types to appear more modern?

glossy plastic ?? too old school. Texturized is "in" now, better grip i guess too.


btw.: i couldn´t find one of these mini oilers you were looking for but maybe this is something for you: http://reilang.com/index.php?pag=produkte :)


Here is what the post man brought in today :). More on the way:bounce:.

sweeeeeeeet !!!!!!!!!!!! :drool::thumbup:
 

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Yesterday, something that i though would happen happened...
When i bought by Bahco utility knife, my first though after unpacking was "this is ****, how can they put their brand on this". And it hadn't been used many times when yesterday the slider button got stuck. So i thought that i'll open it up and see if i can fix it. Half of the 1,5mm hex fasteners got rounded when trying to take them out. When trying with a bit of force, the aluminium gave ut and the fasteners stripped out. Short story: It is now scrap. Went to Bauhaus and bought a Wisent branded one, which was cheaper and feels sturdier. A quick and easy way to ruin brand reputation.
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Unrelated, was at Biltema (nordic cheap tool/auto parts chain) and found these "Made in Germany" angle grinder discs.
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Here is what the post man brought in today :). More on the way:bounce:.

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Once again, you have made me very jealous!
 
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@ TjoFrasse Bahco is owned by an American company(Snap-On) now and American businessmen don't care about quality just how to maximise profits. Also if you think thats bad have a look back several pages to the last Bahco knife on here its the cheapest Chinese **** you can find which is extremely ironic considering Sweden is well known for making high quality knives like Mora at very affordable prices.
 

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@ TjoFrasse Bahco is owned by an American company(Snap-On) now and American businessmen don't care about quality just how to maximise profits. Also if you think thats bad have a look back several pages to the last Bahco knife on here its the cheapest Chinese **** you can find which is extremely ironic considering Sweden is well known for making high quality knives like Mora at very affordable prices.

I'm not fixated with manufacturing country, some of my Taiwanese Bahco stuff is good enough for me. But having paid Bahco price and getting stuff worse than the cheapest stores carry makes me mad. They might make a buck now, but soon customers will either switch brand or buy the same stuff unbranded for a lower price.

I saw a Chinese made Bahco hacksaw the other day , chrome style steel.
The ergo ones are still made in Sweden though i believe.
If you want good utility knife try these Japanese made ones : http://www.olfa.com/SafetyCuttersDetail.aspx?C=55&Id=526

All (i think at least) blades are still made in sweden also, and are still good.

Finding japanese brand tools here in sweden is not easy, all i seem to find is swedish (Bahco, Kamasa, Teng) or Geman brands. Since Japan if famous for knife and saw blades i sure would like to try some.
 

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Here is what the post man brought in today :). More on the way:bounce:.

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its really got me wondering so i gotta ask, is the coo of that china? it looks identical to my hf stool aside from the hf one not having the half circle tray and the seat is red instead. if i recall correctly it even came in a very similar looking box. great stool if its the same though. i really like mine. i like the extra tray on yours
 
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@ Hazet:

Nice seat :thumbup:
Is it genuine Hazet or they just rebadge? The ones from Rodac look similar but I don't know if there's height adjustment...
Anyway, how is the quality?

What about places like this: www.troostwijkauctions.com/ ? (For a used one ?)

What about this ? :D
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/GEREEDSCHAP...8?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_123&hash=item3a56a9576c

or this ?
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/03-US-Pro-T..._Tools_Tool_Boxes_Storage&hash=item3a620db20c

Then you have a regular box with top chest and a “carry around” box ? 3 boxes for the price of 1 Facom box ;)

Thanks for your researches!

Unfortunately I don't speak dutch...
I think that I'll stick with the 5 drawers Stack-On box for less than 100€ and then buy a made in France JET.XL box when I'll have money for it :)
I have no garage to put a roll cab for the moment and I don't really want to store my tools outside ;)

Did they reply ??

Yes :thumbup:, 10,5€ to send an 18 kg box to Belgium, it's the cheapest shipping fees I've ever seen on ebay.de for such a weight, usually it's around 15€, at least.
There is an auction ending tonight, I'll see if I can grab one for a nice price!


:wtf: looks like medieval steel, NOS maybe :D


Finding japanese brand tools here in sweden is not easy, all i seem to find is swedish (Bahco, Kamasa, Teng) or Geman brands. Since Japan if famous for knife and saw blades i sure would like to try some.

I don't know if you like gardening but Silky makes excellent saws made in Japan, it's on my mom's wishlist :)

Today's christmas gift, a Ruko countersinker set:

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its really got me wondering so i gotta ask, is the coo of that china? it looks identical to my hf stool aside from the hf one not having the half circle tray and the seat is red instead. if i recall correctly it even came in a very similar looking box. great stool if its the same though. i really like mine. i like the extra tray on yours

This one?: http://www.harborfreight.com/pneumatic-adjustable-roller-seat-46319.html

Yep, does look pretty similar. I would love to have a Hazet stool like that (as well as a small and large Assistent to match), but I just can't convince the practical side of me to spend the premium for them over the HF or Craftsman models (http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00952605000P?prdNo=2&blockNo=2&blockType=G2): Heck, they are probably made in the same place. I doubt that is one of the items made in Germany.

No disrespect to our member friend, Hazet - I am just jealous of his cool toys :)
 

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its really got me wondering so i gotta ask, is the coo of that china? it looks identical to my hf stool aside from the hf one not having the half circle tray and the seat is red instead. if i recall correctly it even came in a very similar looking box. great stool if its the same though. i really like mine. i like the extra tray on yours

The chair does not have a COO. It is probably made in the Taiwan or China. I received this as part of my Christmas present, so I did not pay anything for it :). Since I have pretty much everything Hazet, I did not want another color/brand mixed in. The quality seems to be average. I do like the half circle tray as it is perfect for placing nuts and bolts while you work.

If you go to the Hazet web site and look through their 2011 catalog, Hazet now lists which of their products are Made in Germany (must have the German language option selected as the English version still has the 2010 catalog). I am glad to see that the vast majority of thier products are still German made :beer:.

http://www.hazet.de/fileadmin/media/easyflip/hazet/Start.html
 

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Here's an interesting set I purchased a few years ago from Wiha. I doubt they still offer something like this that is still made in Germany. Anytime I get a splinter in my hand, I grab this kit. See larger photo at http://www.ultimategarage.com/Tools/tweezers-lge.jpg .

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That is an awesome set :drool:. I don't think I have ever seen a set like that. I have a several high quality tweezers from Tamiya (Made in Japan) for my model building hobby, but nothing like yours.
 

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This set looks very complete :thumbup: I guess that you get splinters of various shapes and sizes to need something like this? ;)

Looks like Vomm makes a lot of different tweezers...

@ Automatique:

They're made in Germany

Btw if someone is interested, here is the place I bought them on ebay.de, 46,1€ delivered (33,5€ + shipping), they have 5 others left...
 

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The Beta 910 12-pc Kit arrived today. I couldn't be happier! The ratchet fits very well in my size 8.5 hand and doesn't slip like my Cman full polish.

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Monte

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Yesterday, something that i though would happen happened...

sorry to hear about that ...hopefully it was not too expensive ...what about warranty ??

Unrelated, was at Biltema (nordic cheap tool/auto parts chain) and found these "Made in Germany" angle grinder discs.

nice !!!!!! The flap disc look like this ?
http://www.dronco.com/xist4c/web/Polishing-Flap-Disc_id_17114_.htm



was this model
http://www.toolmart.com.au/brand/bahco/325.html
you can zoom in and see the made in sweden

although it could have been old stock as this model
http://www.toolmart.com.au/brand/bahco/325.html
was the one i saw that was made in china in the hardware store , 100% sure

wow the prices are crazy ! Even Snap-On is cheaper !!! :)

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/tools.asp?tool=all&Group_ID=1058&store=snapon-store

Craftsman/sears also once offered a Bahco hacksaw. Couldn´t find it, but they now have a german made mini hacksaw

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00936066000P?prdNo=4

CRAFTSMAN

00936066000-1



Unfortunately I don't speak dutch...

I think that I'll stick with the 5 drawers Stack-On box for less than 100€ and then buy a made in France JET.XL box when I'll have money for it :)
I have no garage to put a roll cab for the moment and I don't really want to store my tools outside ;)

me neither :D
That sounds like a good solution ! €100 is hard to beat !!! More money for tools is better ;)

Yes :thumbup:, 10,5€ to send an 18 kg box to Belgium, it's the cheapest shipping fees I've ever seen on ebay.de for such a weight, usually it's around 15€, at least.
There is an auction ending tonight, I'll see if I can grab one for a nice price!

That sounds good !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:wtf: looks like medieval steel, NOS maybe :D

LOL yeah NOS from the 12th century :D

btw: the Gedore oil service wrench:

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Today's christmas gift, a Ruko countersinker set:

How often do you celebrate christmas ?? :bounce:

btw: a teaser video for you :)

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Facom locking pliers:

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@ultgar:
neat tweezer set !!!!!!


@Sharkin:
nice socket set !!!!!!!!! On your pics the ratchet looks really good !!!!!! :drool:


My first post with Poland Made Bosch 36V Lithium Ion Battery

Welcome to the forum !!!!!
ps: Do you have a pic of the tool which comes with the battery ? :)




btw: some more tweezer manufacturers: www.can-pinzetten.de www.wi-pi.de www.steiner-pinzetten.de
 
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Heres my first GJ video review(I think I made a picking video for here once...)

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