Tools from the old world

[egfdevos]

Bahco 100-08-2 COO Portugal
Bahco 160-08-2
PB Swiss Tools 212.LH-10 RB
Gedore (Rebranded FELO) 2140-3,0 NM Torque Screwdriver

 

[Robbie UK]

I've always like the PB Swiss Rainbow Hex Set. It is a work of art that has to be displayed:

 

[d.stole]

I have not posted for a long while. I have been busy using my tools and pursuing a new hobby (bicycles). I got some bike repair tools. Bike tools are dominated by Park Tool (at least in the USA). I wanted something different and bought some Shimano, Tacx, and Gedore. The Tacx tools have a nice handle, but are stamped steel (like Park Tool). Tacx are made in Holland. Gedore tools are all forged and German made, the superior quality is evident. I will keep the Gedore tools and return the rest. The SKS pump is also German made and the best pump I have used.

Friend of mine bought some Tacx thin wrenches to adjust wheel cones, and they bented after first or second use. Total ****! As you said, probably cause they're stamped, not forged steel. Interestingly, same friend bought after that set of chinese cone wrenhes for 1,5eur, and they work well.
I have SKS Suspensioneer fork and shox pump. Agree about quality, no doubt!
You should check Unior bike tools. Excellent quality for resonable price.

nice! i have bunch of bicycle tools,they are all made by VAR in france

Show us your bike tool pictures!

What quality they are? From this year, local shop Planetbike started importing Var tools. But they are hella expensive (or Planetbike wants to earn too much ). For example, ahead nut setter is 50eur, wheel truing stand 400eur, wheel dishing tool 90eur, front sprocket truing tool 35eur, frame and fork end alignment gauge tool 150eur...Prices are double or more comparing to Unior.

I have a few of them. 10,12,17,19. A friend gave me because he had also the newer ones (not the made in germany).

Hey Lok...Those Gedore wrenches without "Germany" stamp...Where they are produced?

I've always like the PB Swiss Rainbow Hex Set. It is a work of art that has to be displayed:

You should check Wiha 369H9F, it's less expensive than PB. High quality German made.

 

[Monte]

Ok, so when i have time i' will try with the non reversible which are less complicated.

ok cool

I haven't done anything yet.
If you mean that they are smoother than the reversible i don' t think that they are. At least i don't see any different. The smoothest are the most used until now.

i thought they are but only played with them in a store for a few seconds so i don´t know

So i presume that the prices will increase and here as well. Carolus increase his price around 20% in 2012.

20% so buy all Gedore tools you need on monday

Yes right. According to catalog the tempering is followed by the screw insert being manganese-phosphate.

FINALLY! My very first contribution to this thread!!!
Don't mind the mac and snap-on non german poo in the background!

nice Stahlwille + Knipex
I like that Snap-On design, best looking impacts

Any members in the USA order from the US version of the Gedore website? I was trying to order an item that is available from the German website but doesn't come up on the US website. It is the 1/4 " ratcheting bit screwdriver # 674/ code # 6530710. I have never liked the SO version and don't like storing the bits in the handle. Also are the tools shipped from Germany or their warehouse in South Carolina.I like to ship UPS and it defaulted to FedEx every time.I have always bought Gedore from Epsteins or some other source.

i would call them and ask: 1-843-225-5015
http://www.gedoretools.com/index.php?dispatch=pages.view&page_id=1

Bahco 100-08-2 COO Portugal
Bahco 160-08-2
PB Swiss Tools 212.LH-10 RB
Gedore (Rebranded FELO) 2140-3,0 NM Torque Screwdriver

very nice quality tools assortment !





btw. bicycle....
some tools in action...
removing front wheel:

"open" the tires


filling the tubes to look where the hole is


adjusting the brake pad


adjusting the headset


tools

 

[north]

Awesome Gedore in action.

Btw, how old are your tires?

 

[lok]

Bahco 100-08-2 COO Portugal
Bahco 160-08-2
PB Swiss Tools 212.LH-10 RB
Gedore (Rebranded FELO) 2140-3,0 NM Torque Screwdriver

Nice tools egfdefos. I didn't knew that the gedore torque screwdriver were from felo. Thanks.

i thought they are but only played with them in a store for a few seconds so i don´t know

I have try both types and some of them they give you a bit different feel. The resistance to rewind is the same though. From my own only the No 13 are both new and unused and they give me exact the same feel. I'll pay more attention the next time that I'll go to shop.

20% so buy all Gedore tools you need on monday

I hope the gedore will not increase so much the prices. Hope is the only that i have now because the money have gone. However i wait a couple more things to arrive.

btw. bicycle....
some tools in action...
...
tools

Nice pics.
Nice collection.
Nice double set.
Nice u10 ratchets.

 

[egfdevos]

 

[decaf]

tools

Very nice Parat Tool Roll aswell, btw, do you know any website where i can get it from?

 

[unknow82]

Untill few weeks ago, I did not know there where Bahco wrenches like these, nothing amazing, but so rare that I have never seen similar tools.

Bahco UV or "U-Vinkel"
Idea is both ends are with same size, so you can leave Stahlwille or Dowidat wrenches unused.
Three sizes are made to same base wrench.

These are old, some of them are even B.A Hjorth C.O label, so it means I will not get full set in near future.

 

[unknow82]

Tools in action:

Beta Swiweling T-handle wrenches are really handy for example when you work something that is hard to reach.

I also change engine ground cable, of cource kept the original and label it.

 

[Krokodil]

Nice!Is that lambo yours?

 

[Rusik]

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[Rusik]

bought recently

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[Monte]

Awesome Gedore in action.

Btw, how old are your tires?

as old as the bike maybe 16 years
there are cracks all over the tire but it still works quality made in Taiwan

I have try both types and some of them they give you a bit different feel. The resistance to rewind is the same though. From my own only the No 13 are both new and unused and they give me exact the same feel. I'll pay more attention the next time that I'll go to shop.

i will try them if a buy a set of them each

I hope the gedore will not increase so much the prices. Hope is the only that i have now because the money have gone. However i wait a couple more things to arrive.

next month more money will arrive

Nice pics.
Nice collection.
Nice double set.
Nice u10 ratchets.

Very nice Parat Tool Roll aswell, btw, do you know any website where i can get it from?

couldn´t find anything from sweden though
http://www.maerklen-shop.de/artikel.php?SessID=7d8be738fc9b5fffaac1c6667885cc98&artnr=7102750400

they have 2 ones:
http://www.parat.eu/Cases-Light-IT/Tool-cases-and-bags/Products/Tool-rolls:::2_12_40_49.html

Untill few weeks ago, I did not know there where Bahco wrenches like these, nothing amazing, but so rare that I have never seen similar tools.

Bahco UV or "U-Vinkel"
Idea is both ends are with same size, so you can leave Stahlwille or Dowidat wrenches unused.
Three sizes are made to same base wrench.

These are old, some of them are even B.A Hjorth C.O label, so it means I will not get full set in near future.

interesting wrenches ! But i guess mostly people use the box end. So you still need those Stahlwille or Dowidat wrenches

I also change engine ground cable, of cource kept the original and label it.

nice Beta ratchet

bought recently

very cool Heyco wrenches !!!!!






New "Wisent" screwdriver sold at the "Bauhaus" stores:





It seems Wiha lost the contract with Bauhaus to Wera to make their drivers....

 

[Rusik]

very cool Heyco wrenches !!!!!

Yes. Quality is super. And we have the sale. Approximately $ 30

 

[north]

bought recently

*snip*

Said it before and say it again; the HEYCO maxline is b-e-a-u-t-i-f-u-l.

Yes. Quality is super. And we have the sale. Approximately $ 30

Dayum! $30 for the set?! I would buy it too for that price. Is that a local store or online?

 

[Rusik]

Dayum! $30 for the set?! I would buy it too for that price. Is that a local store or online?

Yes. $ 30 per set

 

[unknow82]

Nice!Is that lambo yours?

Yes it is.

interesting wrenches ! But i guess mostly people use the box end. So you still need those Stahlwille or Dowidat wrenches

Yes they do, I gues most have also found that normal U-side on wrenches are fine, but sometimes there comes bolt that you need "open end" that is turned like Stahlwille. Those Bahco wrenches got both "open end's".

 

[Monte]

Yes they do, I gues most have also found that normal U-side on wrenches are fine, but sometimes there comes bolt that you need "open end" that is turned like Stahlwille. Those Bahco wrenches got both "open end's".

Where can i get a set








chemical tools:

3M sealant




Lesonal clear coat
www.Lesonal.com

 

[shoturtle]

Monte,

Actually they still carry both the wera rebrand wisent and the wiha rebrand wisent at bauhaus. Bauhaus carries both the wera and wiha brands still. On one of the screwdriver stainless steel wisent their catalog saids wiha edelstahl.

Think bauhaus is the only big box to carry wiha, wera and knipex tools.

 

[Jure]

Show us your bike tool pictures!

What quality they are? From this year, local shop Planetbike started importing Var tools. But they are hella expensive (or Planetbike wants to earn too much ). For example, ahead nut setter is 50eur, wheel truing stand 400eur, wheel dishing tool 90eur, front sprocket truing tool 35eur, frame and fork end alignment gauge tool 150eur...Prices are double or more comparing to Unior.

VAR...well var is way too expensive (if you are not rich),if you have bike service its fine,but if you dont have then you dont need VAR becouse you will spend $$ and it can be done with any brand...var is expensive becouse of history/quality,VAR is #1 bike tool. for me var is #1,unior #2,and unior is sick too!

i really dont need bicicle tools,will trade some of VAR tools for stahlwille wrenches

 

[cascivic]

I've always like the PB Swiss Rainbow Hex Set. It is a work of art that has to be displayed:

Love these! How much does a set of those run?

 

[Robbie UK]

Love these! How much does a set of those run?

In the UK the version that includes the stand adds another £16 to the price. PB Swiss are pretty expensive and (inclusive of tax) the total bill would be £69.00 for the complete set and stand - this converts to about $106.00 USD.

Not sure what they cost if bought in the US, the part number is PB 1212.L ST RB.

 

[Jure]

In the UK the version that includes the stand adds another £16 to the price. PB Swiss are pretty expensive and (inclusive of tax) the total bill would be £69.00 for the complete set and stand - this converts to about $106.00 USD.

Not sure what they cost if bought in the US, the part number is PB 1212.L ST RB.

overpriced...

 

[spv]

Tools in action:

Beta Swiweling T-handle wrenches are really handy for example when you work something that is hard to reach.

Countach? 6 DCOE's? Synchronization would be enjoyable

 

[lok]

Tools in action:

Unknown how do you like the beta rathcet?

bought recently

Nice purchase.

i will try them if a buy a set of them each

This is better.

next month more money will arrive

Ah things are more complicate.

New "Wisent" screwdriver sold at the "Bauhaus" stores:

Monte how many screwdrivers do you have?
I know, i know. The screwdrivers are never enough.




A military collection for specific use.

Gedore 50 & 55 din 895
Gedore c-spaner and a small allen.
Hazet circlip plier.
wiha screwdriver
The big screwdriver is made in Germany and it has a lazertip edge. I don't remember the brand though.

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[Hazet]

@lok

Do you know if the Unior bike tools are forged? I assume they are, but I have never seen Unior tools in the flesh. I will see who sells them in USA.

@ Monte
Yes, the TACX tools are made in Holland (show on tool lable). I also have a TACX repair stand also made in Holland.

 

[lok]

@lok

Do you know if the Unior bike tools are forged? I assume they are, but I have never seen Unior tools in the flesh. I will see who sells them in USA.

I don't know for sure. I don't own any. I know only that unior is very known for her bicycle tools. Maybe Jure knows more.

Searching for info I found the Forge programme but does not say clearly if the bicycle tools are drop forged. Or at least i didn't found it. you can have a look if i miss something.

I also found this interesting video. You can see some tools in action in 07.22. No more info though.

 

[unknow82]

Unknown how do you like the beta rathcet?

I got few ratches and have try out most of them. I like the desing and grip, it is silent and smooth. that "odd" lever desing works.
Chrome is awesome, it mirror good.

Thing about ratchets is; you have to try them out and find the one that you like and go with it.

 

[Phobo]

not quite sure if made in europe (cant find alot of informations on the net) but I just bought my first air hammer. Its called vibro impact and comes with a holder and some attachments. Maybe someone knows the manufacturer.

 

[d.stole]

VAR...well var is way too expensive (if you are not rich),if you have bike service its fine,but if you dont have then you dont need VAR becouse you will spend $$ and it can be done with any brand...var is expensive becouse of history/quality,VAR is #1 bike tool. for me var is #1,unior #2,and unior is sick too!

i really dont need bicicle tools,will trade some of VAR tools for stahlwille wrenches

So we both agreed, Var is damn expnsive!

Hey, nice set of tools. If you don't need, I will accept them free of charge.

@lok

Do you know if the Unior bike tools are forged? I assume they are, but I have never seen Unior tools in the flesh. I will see who sells them in USA.

I assume they are all forged, but they didn't put it in every description (as it's case with standard wrenhces and tools). But don't need to worry, cause you get lifetime warranty.
Here is some flashing for you, at bottom of the post.

I don't know for sure. I don't own any. I know only that unior is very known for her bicycle tools. Maybe Jure knows more.

Searching for info I found the Forge programme but does not say clearly if the bicycle tools are drop forged. Or at least i didn't found it. you can have a look if i miss something.

This is better link:

http://www.uniortools.com/product-catalogue

To see their product range.

Lockring wrench Unior 1609/2BI (used for Hollowtech II bottom brackets).

 

[Jure]

@lok

Do you know if the Unior bike tools are forged? I assume they are, but I have never seen Unior tools in the flesh. I will see who sells them in USA.

@ Monte
Yes, the TACX tools are made in Holland (show on tool lable). I also have a TACX repair stand also made in Holland.

ALL unior tools are forged and full made in Slovenia. and stay away from unior screwdrivers,with other unior tools you CANT go wrong. unior tools are underrated and not so known becouse they were never big name like stahlwille,hazet,gedore etc etc but when you buy unior you know that you will have it for looooooooooong time.

edit: all unior wrenches are forged.

 

[Jure]

So we both agreed, Var is damn expnsive!

Hey, nice set of tools. If you don't need, I will accept them free of charge.



I assume they are all forged, but they didn't put it in every description (as it's case with standard wrenhces and tools). But don't need to worry, cause you get lifetime warranty.
Here is some flashing for you, at bottom of the post.



This is better link:

http://www.uniortools.com/product-catalogue

To see their product range.

Lockring wrench Unior 1609/2BI (used for Hollowtech II bottom brackets).

nice BB unior wrench lol i will adore your unior wrench,i will even pay for shipping!!!!

 

[Monte]

Monte,

Actually they still carry both the wera rebrand wisent and the wiha rebrand wisent at bauhaus. Bauhaus carries both the wera and wiha brands still. On one of the screwdriver stainless steel wisent their catalog saids wiha edelstahl.

Think bauhaus is the only big box to carry wiha, wera and knipex tools.

this Bauhaus only had Wisent branded Wera drivers. Also Kraftform style sets with Wera-Wisent handle. Try to get a pic during this month. Didn´t check out other Bauhaus stores yet though.

VAR...well var is way too expensive (if you are not rich),if you have bike service its fine,but if you dont have then you dont need VAR becouse you will spend $$ and it can be done with any brand...var is expensive becouse of history/quality,VAR is #1 bike tool. for me var is #1,unior #2,and unior is sick too!

interesting tools ! Are those wrenches stamped steel or forged ? The silver tools look like stamped steel like other manufacturers tools too

Ah things are more complicate.

uh oh.... i can guess.......

Monte how many screwdrivers do you have?
I know, i know. The screwdrivers are never enough.

Currently i have 238 screwdrivers (without nut drivers, bit holders, ratcheting/interchangeable screwdrivers, T-handles, flea market drivers) from Gedore, Hazet, Felo, Wurth, SKG, Facom, PB Swiss, Garant, Witte, Wera, Wiha, Stahlwille, Hafu, Bertool, Wisent, Black + Decker, Proxxon, Anex, Hi-Q, Belzer, Meister, Lux, Bahco, Schröder, Drehmax, Beta, Silberspeer, Forum, Promat, Circum, Wago, Stanley, Connex, Elofort, Format, Athlet, Merox, Paramo, Holex

A military collection for specific use.

That´s nice !! For which vehicle ?

@ Monte
Yes, the TACX tools are made in Holland (show on tool lable). I also have a TACX repair stand also made in Holland.

ah ok nice ! Thanks ! A repair stand is on the wish list....
Which one do you have ?

not quite sure if made in europe (cant find alot of informations on the net) but I just bought my first air hammer. Its called vibro impact and comes with a holder and some attachments. Maybe someone knows the manufacturer.

i dunno, i guess asia. At least the Gedore wrench in the video is made in Germany





Wera slotted mini screwdriver with clip



hmmmm candy

 

[shoturtle]

I think you are right monte, my wife went to bauhaus today. They still had wiha rebrands, but they are on sale. She asked one of the tools guys there. They are slowly getting rid of wiha for wera. Think that since hornbach is a big wiha seller, they are going knipex and wera.

 

[Jure]

interesting tools ! Are those wrenches stamped steel or forged ? The silver tools look like stamped steel like other manufacturers tools too

"top quality hardened alloy tool steel,heat-treated and chrome plated"

that's what VAR says

 

[Jure]

how good are padre wrenches?

 

[mrtools]

Made another video, this one is on NWS tool finishes

Nice video..thanks!

Very nice sets, I'm jealous!

Thanks for jealous!

Yesterday I got this:
Palmera side cutter. More green handled Spain made stuff 80:- SEK.
Some comparison photos between Palmera pliers and Knipex.

Wowww!! nice cutter what your opinion about Palmera and Knipex?

I opened one of them to put grease. On this occasion I took some photos. so..
Like the U20 ratchet.

Great post moterm pics lok! I really like to see what the inside Gedore ratchet wrench.
thanks!!!

I will pay extra taxes to the customs office. Εhhmmm extra duty for product from countries that haven't Euro.

Errrrr....

The gedore have very good representation in my country.
My pleasure to help.
You welcome mrtools.

Excellent.
Nice collection and great price.

or we must live forever to be able to buy all tools without the lottery win

yeah and i need something to use the tools for, just tools collecting is too boring

That right! I'm agree with you

BMI tape measure
www.BMI.de

Nice

Bahco 100-08-2 COO Portugal
Bahco 160-08-2
PB Swiss Tools 212.LH-10 RB
Gedore (Rebranded FELO) 2140-3,0 NM Torque Screwdriver

nice

btw. bicycle....
some tools in action...
removing front wheel:
adjusting the headset
tools

Great Gedore "in action tools"
really nice tools kits

Untill few weeks ago, I did not know there where Bahco wrenches like these, nothing amazing, but so rare that I have never seen similar tools.
Bahco UV or "U-Vinkel"
Idea is both ends are with same size, so you can leave Stahlwille or Dowidat wrenches unused.
Three sizes are made to same base wrench.

That really odd design and I think really useable for specific task

Tools in action:
Beta Swiweling T-handle wrenches are really handy for example when you work something that is hard to reach.
I also change engine ground cable, of cource kept the original and label it.

Nice Beta tools for awesome Lambosssssssssssssssssss

bought recently

Yes. Quality is super. And we have the sale. Approximately $ 30

Nice wrenches...I owned a set 10-22mm
you got a very, very good prices
I paid around $200 for 10-22mm wrench set.

A military collection for specific use.
Gedore 50 & 55 din 895
Gedore c-spaner and a small allen.
Hazet circlip plier.
wiha screwdriver
The big screwdriver is made in Germany and it has a lazertip edge. I don't remember the brand though.

Woww! nice set!!! where you got it?
pics for Hazet circlips pliers head please

Wera slotted mini screwdriver with clip

Nice! look like my voltage tester screwdriver but in green version

@Jure + Hazet + d.stole
Very nice bicycle tools thanks for the pics

 

[FLRover]

VAR...well var is way too expensive (if you are not rich),if you have bike service its fine,but if you dont have then you dont need VAR becouse you will spend $$ and it can be done with any brand...var is expensive becouse of history/quality,VAR is #1 bike tool. for me var is #1,unior #2,and unior is sick too!

i really dont need bicicle tools,will trade some of VAR tools for stahlwille wrenches

Any idea where we can buy Var stateside?

 

[Olafur]

how good are padre wrenches?

They are not polished so they are not as nice to handle as say Facom or Stahlwille but not bad at all.

Fit is fine and they are strong. I do not hesitate to link them together. Great workhorses for the price (at least over here).