Tools from the old world

[Rusik]

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[Phobo]

I bought today. new. UNIOR
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today when listening to the radio there was a funny Unior advertising

"hello my name is ... I am a professional and I am working with tools from PEEEEEEEP ...."

 

[dykmore]

Hi, I have quick question - does anybody knows COO of Bosch 9-125 CE angle grinder? I saw the 10-125 CE model and there was written Made in Germany, but I have no info about 9-125 which I decided to buy... Thanks

 

[superautobacs]

Speaking of plierswrench....

Here's a limited production plierswrench with cross hatched jaws. They were specifically made for a major European airliner. The technicians use these to remove tie wraps, instead of using diagonal cutters. The cross hatched jaws provided a non-slip bite to quickly and easily remove them.

 

[zuspiel]

^^^^ Super interesting, SAB! Thanks for sharing.

Now, if only I could figure out how that works to remove tie wraps...

 

[superautobacs]

Zuspiel,

Here

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[zuspiel]

Wow!... Thanks!

That must qualify as the most ******* use of diagonal cutters, ever...

Still want a pair of those special Knipex's...

 

[superautobacs]

******* use for sure!




Has anyone noticed already that Snap-on has been selling Wera items?
They have Instict handles with Wera's diamond tip shanks:

Even the bayonet blade

 

[fivespdcat]

Zuspiel,

Here

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Awesome vid here on how to use these right. I bought a set off Amazon for cheap a few weeks back, they work pretty good as a wrench and they do work ok for removing ty wraps.

 

[CanUK]

Today's delivery and I think bargain d'jour:

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The end nippers and the stubby are not marked with a COO, but have a quality feel regardless. Everything else is marked "Made in Germany". Cost was just £10.95 + VAT and shipping, so I'm happy

 

[Monte]

Maybe Artu? They have "ice hardened" blades, and made in Solingen.

Artu looks (for me) more like a distributor rather than a manufacturer (maybe drill bits ?) so i thought they´re from a dedicated manufacturer like www.lutz-blades.com But difficult to say since there are several manufacturers and like 90% of the blades sold here are labeled Solingen and/or Germany

Random photo with some German, Taiwanese, and Japanese stuff mingling with eachother, peacefully.

harmonic photo

Thanks for the link! you are the best tools consultant

I'm agree with you..you right they won't ship oversea
thanks for your advice

nobody wants to ship to you ?
what do you need ?

btw : I know monte have a set of this Wurth driver, and I guess he's really like them

yes i do

asedeals.com $399 shipped to my door

i really wanted the low lift-high rise model but it was a little too heavy for my non- garage use.

very nice jack ! should work for most stuff i guess (change wheels etc.) ?
only knew that AC is sold in the US (no longer it seems ?)
"These are the best jacks on the planet" i think thats what they said about the AC jacks they once sold too

I bought today.

very cool !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clamp Kapriol

"Prodotto Importato" ...from where ?

Hi, I have quick question - does anybody knows COO of Bosch 9-125 CE angle grinder? I saw the 10-125 CE model and there was written Made in Germany, but I have no info about 9-125 which I decided to buy... Thanks

blue ? green ? old ? new ?

Speaking of plierswrench....

Here's a limited production plierswrench with cross hatched jaws. They were specifically made for a major European airliner. The technicians use these to remove tie wraps, instead of using diagonal cutters. The cross hatched jaws provided a non-slip bite to quickly and easily remove them.

hmm interesting ....on the other hand .....combination pliers or Cobras don´t work ? (i use side cutters so i don´t know ? ..not like in the video though )

Has anyone noticed already that Snap-on has been selling Wera items?
They have Instict handles with Wera's diamond tip shanks:

http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2246845&highlight=snap-on+czech+republic#post2246845

 

[Rusik]

"Prodotto Importato" ...from where ?

It is from Italy. Rather their product

 

[concealer404]

Today's delivery and I think bargain d'jour:

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The end nippers and the stubby are not marked with a COO, but have a quality feel regardless. Everything else is marked "Made in Germany". Cost was just £10.95 + VAT and shipping, so I'm happy

Where did you get this from?

 

[CanUK]

Where did you get this from?

PM sent, as they don't pay me to advertise for them


Also, in case anyone is interested, these are listed on Amazon UK for £11.65:

Was very tempted to get them myself.

 

[banditbigdog]

Hazet 1/4" ratchet, 72 tooth, model 863F

 

[lok]

lol i hope you can find a use for it if not at least its good for some nice tool pics

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I already find one. It can be used as a usual c-spanner but with this design it can handle very small and bigger bolts. It has larger range than my beta.

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Also it can gripe the bolt from different angle.

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Which is very useful some times. In a place so tight like this my beta can not work.

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Also the beta can't grip so large bolt (or whatever it called).

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Not wide open in this.

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oh oh ....and another expensive visit at the Wurth dealer ......

I swore this was the last. But as I recall I said the same and the first time.

Awesome shot lok!!!!
thanks a lot for the Gedore pics

Thanks mrtools.

Awesome driver! congratulation very nice collection ..the handle looks a little bit small than Felo and it comes with great shape like Felo, these one look more suitable for my small hand
tell me what your personal opinion about this Wurth drivers?
btw : I know monte have a set of this Wurth driver, and I guess he's really like them

Thanks again mrT.

These screwdrivers are awesome! So far they seem to be strong and the fitment is very good. But the one that i like the most is the handle. I don't know how it will last in time under heavy use but definitely worth a try. For me the perfect screwdriver must have round handle (i don't like the square etc) and soft. Also they have all the features than i like, impact cap, hexagon blade and hexagon drive for wrench. At first i bought only the basic set, but then decided to expand it a little bit even though it is a little expensive. And now i hope to last forever.

The handle seems to be a little thiner on top than felo. I don't know about the length. I took some pics for you.

All sizes.
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The smaller haven't soft handle. Unfortunately no ph0 neither hard or soft handle.

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PH2

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The biggest soft handle, PH3 etc.

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Btw.

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Zuspiel,

Here

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ow, thats nice! Thanks.

 

[lok]

Hazet 1/4" ratchet, 72 tooth, model 863F

Awesome pics for a perfect tool. Thanks.

 

[Monte]

Today's delivery and I think bargain d'jour:

nice set ! Good price too !

Also, in case anyone is interested, these are listed on Amazon UK for £11.65:

Was very tempted to get them myself.

That´s a nice set too ! Handle is very comfortable and ergonomic. A bit smaller than others but very nice overall. Made in Germany of course.

Hazet 1/4" ratchet, 72 tooth, model 863F

sweeeet !!!!

I already find one. It can be used as a usual c-spanner but with this design it can handle very small and bigger bolts. It has larger range than my beta.

hmm that´s a nice wrench ! Thanks for the pics ! I think i need one too

I swore this was the last. But as I recall I said the same and the first time.

and the next time.....

I took some pics for you.

nice collection of tools ! It seems you need a bigger tool box soon
btw. where are the red socket rails from ?

Btw.

ooooohhh me want








Metabo drill chuck keys

Made by Rohm


Metabo 1/4" dr. nut driver

 

[lok]

hmm that´s a nice wrench ! Thanks for the pics ! I think i need one too

You welcome! In UK e-buy you can find a bigger one, No 4113 i think, but it's not cheap Or i can send you one. My dealer have one more No 4106.

and the next time.....

My wurth HHS2000, which is next to screwdriver section, is reaching the end. Do you know a good product to substitute the hhs2000?

nice collection of tools ! It seems you need a bigger tool box soon
btw. where are the red socket rails from ?

If i put more tools in this tool box, it will grow legs and walk away. Already too heavy!
But i also have one Plano bag.


The rails are from Carolus.

http://www.carolus.de/en/products/group_articles.html?oe_opt

Although you can find them from a different brand.

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You can use both sides. Here you can see 13,14,15,16,17,18,19,21,22,24,27 sockets in 15cm rail.

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ooooohhh me want

 

[unknow82]

I don't know how you folks think; Carolus has more fresh desing then Gedore, I like it.

 

[Jure]

can someone tell me if gedore and rahsol wrenches are made of same quality steel? or rahsol as a budget brand of gedore is made of lower grade steel

 

[Monte]

You welcome! In UK e-buy you can find a bigger one, No 4113 i think, but it's not cheap Or i can send you one. My dealer have one more No 4106.

can´t find it ?

My wurth HHS2000, which is next to screwdriver section, is reaching the end. Do you know a good product to substitute the hhs2000?

why substitute ? Ur not happy ?
"Weicon", "Caramba" , "Beko", "Eurolock", "Sonax", "OKS" are brand names which come to my mind. I have no experience with any of them though.

If i put more tools in this tool box, it will grow legs and walk away. Already too heavy!
But i also have one Plano bag.

if it´s too heavy it can´t walk

The rails are from Carolus.
You can use both sides. Here you can see 13,14,15,16,17,18,19,21,22,24,27 sockets in 15cm rail.

nice !!! didn´t know they offer it ! Thought about the Gedore rails before.....hmm we´ll see Carolus looks good too.....Gedore made in the US though.....hmmmm... and blue.....

I don't know how you folks think; Carolus has more fresh desing then Gedore, I like it.

i dunno, too fresh for me

can someone tell me if gedore and rahsol wrenches are made of same quality steel? or rahsol as a budget brand of gedore is made of lower grade steel

they´re basically the same just with a lower finish to save costs.







Metabo KHE 2851 rotary hammer drill

mode selector switch


swivel cord


SDS Plus chuck


chuck removed


1/2" drill chuck attached


overview:

 

[mrtools]

@Jure
nice tools..
Do you know how old Knipex pliers?

I bought today.

Awesome!! I like the steel box it look very special
"old school".

nobody wants to ship to you ?
what do you need ?

Yaa..do you have any alternative ways to help me?
Shhhh...PM sent

yes i do

Also, in case anyone is interested, these are listed on Amazon UK for £11.65:
Was very tempted to get them myself.

I the same version Elora screwdriver - interchangeable/reversible blade version in the same Quatrolit Top-Kraft 2K handle it very good for my small hand

I already find one. It can be used as a usual c-spanner but with this design it can handle very small and bigger bolts. It has larger range than my beta.

Awesome C wrench! especially from Belzer Germany

Thanks mrtools.
Thanks again mrT.

You are welcome buddy!

These screwdrivers are awesome! So far they seem to be strong and the fitment is very good. But the one that i like the most is the handle. I don't know how it will last in time under heavy use but definitely worth a try. For me the perfect screwdriver must have round handle (i don't like the square etc) and soft. Also they have all the features than i like, impact cap, hexagon blade and hexagon drive for wrench. At first i bought only the basic set, but then decided to expand it a little bit even though it is a little expensive. And now i hope to last forever.
The handle seems to be a little thiner on top than felo. I don't know about the length. I took some pics for you.

Thanks a lot to share your personal opinion and information about Wurth screwdriver. That what I want to here from Wurth user... I'm very appreciate that..no doubt it a very good screwdriver in term of comfort handle, fitment, easy to use and maybe heavy duty driver!!
and so many thanks for the detail pics, as a usual I'm very excited every time I saw your tools pics
btw: Congratulation! you have a very good tools in your toolbox

Metabo drill chuck keys

1 Euro for each item
is it real?

Metabo KHE 2851 rotary hammer drill

Awesome drill and pics!!!
I saw the quality made of Metabo Germany drill
Your new drill, price?

 

[CanUK]

Today's (first) delivery:

100g, 200g, 500g and 600g
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But wait, what's this?...







Not Habero!
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But still made in Germany
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They don't have the metal plate on the top, but I'm happy at £5/hammer (£26 for all four, shipped).
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I stumbled upon them completely by accident -there was very little info, but at that price I decided to roll the dice. I did do a bit of googling, and everywhere I found that sold the Format brand also sold Habero/Gedore, so I took it as a good sign.

Now I just need to find the Habero ball pein version like Monte has, but they're as rare as hen's teeth (pretty sure they're not made anymore).

 

[CanUK]

The rails are from Carolus.

Although you can find them from a different brand.

Those are really, really nice. Are the clips sturdy? Hold the sockets well?

I did a bit of digging and found them for sale in the UK by Sealey and Laser brands. The Laser is slightly cheaper and includes more clips than the Sealey (16 vs 14), but both seem to be only available in blue. Now I have to ask myself if I can justify spending more for that lovely Carolus red...

 

[Monte]

Yaa..do you have any alternative ways to help me?
Shhhh...PM sent

1 Euro for each item
is it real?

yes They sold Metabo + Röhm drill chucks for 5.- a while ago too They removed everything from Metabo...

Awesome drill and pics!!!
I saw the quality made of Metabo Germany drill
Your new drill, price?

I have won it at a german tool forum, list price is € 308,21 (RM 1234.-)

Today's (first) delivery:

Not Habero!

nice Hammer set ! Definately looks like older Habero with the "wave" in the steel sleeve and the vintage stickers. Nowadays everything is printed on the tools. Do the hammer heads have stampings ?

the ball pein in Rotband style seems to be discontinued.... not very common over here....

 

[CanUK]

nice Hammer set ! Definately looks like older Habero with the "wave" in the steel sleeve and the vintage stickers. Nowadays everything is printed on the tools. Do the hammer heads have stampings ?

the ball pein in Rotband style seems to be discontinued.... not very common over here....

They're all stamped with their respective weight in grams, and the "Format" name (looks to have been stamped seperately). The 600 and the 200 are stamped "KK" and "Chrom-Vanadium" while the 500 and the 100 are stamped "LE" and make no mention of chrom-vanadium.

Are these maybe old-stock then that have been rebranded?

 

[north]

*snip*
I have won it at a german tool forum, list price is € 308,21 (RM 1234.-)
*snip*

*Hands over a 'You ****!' award*

 

[willhollin]

A couple of impulse purchases from the tool shop near me.

 

[lok]

can´t find it ?

Neither i could find it today. But i found this in German e-bay.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hakenschlussel-teilw-verstellbar-VBW-Belzer-Duogrip-4113-deutsche-Hersteller-/160831029771?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D253281186411947749%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D2%26

Click in the pic with the belzer.

why substitute ? Ur not happy ?
"Weicon", "Caramba" , "Beko", "Eurolock", "Sonax", "OKS" are brand names which come to my mind. I have no experience with any of them though.

I'm very happy with it but it is right next to screwdriver section in the wurth shop!

if it´s too heavy it can´t walk

Correct
But then neither I could walk or lift it.

nice !!! didn´t know they offer it ! Thought about the Gedore rails before.....hmm we´ll see Carolus looks good too.....Gedore made in the US though.....hmmmm... and blue.....

Get the gedore! Get the gedore! Much much better of course. They have magnet (very strong magnet), the socket locks in their position. It's easier to work with multiple sockets in unlock position. And of course it's blue. Unfortunately it takes too much space in a cantilever toolbox and thats way i don't get it. The carolus is not bad and work fine for my needs.

i dunno, too fresh for me

Metabo KHE 2851 rotary hammer drill

Is this new? Are the new metabo made in germany?

Btw it is very nice.

Awesome C wrench! especially from Belzer Germany

And especially for the price that i get it. Only 10 euro + vat. My dealer loves me.

Thanks a lot to share your personal opinion and information about Wurth screwdriver. That what I want to here from Wurth user... I'm very appreciate that..no doubt it a very good screwdriver in term of comfort handle, fitment, easy to use and maybe heavy duty driver!!
and so many thanks for the detail pics, as a usual I'm very excited every time I saw your tools pics
btw: Congratulation! you have a very good tools in your toolbox

You welcome mrTools and thanks for your nice word.
I'm very glad that you like my pics. And I'm also very happy that you like my tools.

Those are really, really nice. Are the clips sturdy? Hold the sockets well?

I did a bit of digging and found them for sale in the UK by Sealey and Laser brands. The Laser is slightly cheaper and includes more clips than the Sealey (16 vs 14), but both seem to be only available in blue. Now I have to ask myself if I can justify spending more for that lovely Carolus red...

The blue is nice! I get the carolus because here in greece i haven't more choices. But they are good. Εven if I had more options might buy them again.
I haven't any experience from stuff like that and i don't know how good or better are the others, but they work fine for me. Yes the clips are really nice. They are sturdy and hold the socket tight. Not so tight as to be annoying though.
The clips sold separately in packets of 10 by carolus.

If you need more photo or info let me know.





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[mrtools]

Today's (first) delivery:
Not Habero!
But still made in Germany
They don't have the metal plate on the top, but I'm happy at £5/hammer (£26 for all four, shipped).

Great hammer set!!
for £26 I think you got only one or two Habero/Gedore hammer
the most important is they all made in Germany!!!

yes They sold Metabo + Röhm drill chucks for 5.- a while ago too They removed everything from Metabo...

Woww!! that a very good deal

I have won it at a german tool forum, list price is € 308,21 (RM 1234.-)

Congratulation!!!
you are the truly winner, the award and prize goes to right person ..we all know you have a very good knowledge about tools especially Made in Germany!!!!!!
btw:you are fully qualified to win the € 308,21 Metabo rotary drill - KHE 2851

And especially for the price that i get it. Only 10 euro + vat. My dealer loves me.

very good prices..
I think your dealer is the cute girl

You welcome mrTools and thanks for your nice word.
I'm very glad that you like my pics. And I'm also very happy that you like my tools.

please continue post your tools pics! we all love pics

 

[littletoes]

I couldn't find their socket rails on their website!

 

[Monte]

They're all stamped with their respective weight in grams, and the "Format" name (looks to have been stamped seperately). The 600 and the 200 are stamped "KK" and "Chrom-Vanadium" while the 500 and the 100 are stamped "LE" and make no mention of chrom-vanadium.

Are these maybe old-stock then that have been rebranded?

ah ok i thought maybe there was a "hB" stamping in the head for "Herman Bremer/Habero".

*Hands over a 'You ****!' award*

Thanks ! I appreciate it
btw. it´s for sale if you´re interested

A couple of impulse purchases from the tool shop near me.

nice !! Never heard of "Rabone Chesterman". Seems to be part of Stanley tools nowadays.

Neither i could find it today. But i found this in German e-bay.

too expensive

I'm very happy with it but it is right next to screwdriver section in the wurth shop!

haha lol

Correct
But then neither I could walk or lift it.

That´s why you need a Gedore Adjutant

Get the gedore! Get the gedore! Much much better of course. They have magnet (very strong magnet), the socket locks in their position. It's easier to work with multiple sockets in unlock position. And of course it's blue. Unfortunately it takes too much space in a cantilever toolbox and thats way i don't get it. The carolus is not bad and work fine for my needs.

ok, you convinced me

Is this new? Are the new metabo made in germany?

Btw it is very nice.

yes, it´s new. Some cheaper Metabos are imported, rotary hammers nowadays too. The entry level tools.
btw. Athlet not Gedore ?

Woww!! that a very good deal

Congratulation!!!
you are the truly winner, the award and prize goes to right person ..we all know you have a very good knowledge about tools especially Made in Germany!!!!!!
btw:you are fully qualified to win the € 308,21 Metabo rotary drill - KHE 2851

Thanks MrTools

I couldn't find their socket rails on their website!

Carolus ?
http://www.carolus.de/en/products/group_articles.html?oe_opt[list_set]=149133,147490

 

[Trucky]

Bought the Pliers Wrench thing today at Sears.. hopefully I'll find some uses for it But at the same time, i don't want to scratch it all up

 

[shoturtle]

It is a tool, use it, it is not a show piece unless you are a collector of shiny tools.

 

[CanUK]

This morning's car-boot haul. Please excuse the poor quality phone camera pics. Most of it needs a good clean-up, but it's all in very useable condition and should look decent after a scrub and a bit of vinegar where needed. Despite the rust and grease I think some of these have had little use beyond bouncing around the bottom of a tool box:

Elora 12/13 (W. Germany) and a Kamasa 16 (Japan) with a black finish. The Kamasa is really nice with sharply ground jaws and ring (if that makes sense).
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Britool 12/13, Britool 14/15, Heyco (W. Germany) 16/17, Gedore (Germany) 24/30
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Proto PH3 (USA), Dowidat PH3 (Germany), Stanley PH3 (England), Stanley slot (England) -not sure why I didn't get the tips in the photo
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Kamasa, RS (England), Snap-On (USA), and Wiha (Germany).
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The Wiha blade is grooved and has a flattened side profile:
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[lok]

very good prices..
I think your dealer is the cute girl

This price was for me and of course i haven't that prices to everything. The best price that i had is about this one and this old gedore.

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He also have some old dowidat. Maybe i must ask for a price.

But i wish to be a cute girl.

please continue post your tools pics! we all love pics

But i haven't a lot.

And now monte will tell me that is great oportunity to buy some

ah ok i thought maybe there was a "hB" stamping in the head for "Herman Bremer/Habero".

Well that's what that means. Thanks.

too expensive

Yes i know. It is bigger but expensive.

That´s why you need a Gedore Adjutant

Yes but..

Well, to many reasons that i can't have one.

yes, it´s new. Some cheaper Metabos are imported, rotary hammers nowadays too. The entry level tools.
btw. Athlet not Gedore ?

Ok. Thanks for the info. I thought that nowdays all the metabo are imported.

No gedore
Actually i ask for a gedore first and then for a Rennsteig but he hadn't any of these with in 2mm.

Bought the Pliers Wrench thing today at Sears.. hopefully I'll find some uses for it But at the same time, i don't want to scratch it all up

Call me crazy but the good tools when they are used are even prettier than new.




CanUK nice old tools.





My 1/4 breaker bar. Sorry for the bad white balance.

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With a 13mm D20

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[Monte]

This morning's car-boot haul.

nice haul !

And now monte will tell me that is great oportunity to buy some

It´s a great oportunity to buy some

Well that's what that means. Thanks.

Yes i know. It is bigger but expensive.

Yes but..

Well, to many reasons that i can't have one.

if your cantilever box should be too heavy one day or if it already is too heavy :
www.dinzl.de

Ok. Thanks for the info. I thought that nowdays all the metabo are imported.

god no !!!! Only the lower priced tools !!!!

No gedore
Actually i ask for a gedore first and then for a Rennsteig but he hadn't any of these with in 2mm.

Athlet is good too ...if it says "Germany"

My 1/4 breaker bar. Sorry for the bad white balance.

For which tasks do you (or I ) need one ?






flea market finds for 1.- buck each:








(Kit Kat 3 pieces for 1 buck though )

 

[Monte]

new Stanley Fatmax power tools which will be available soon in europe:

 

[Monte]

scientific research of screwdriver handles and torque comparison:

http://books.google.de/books?id=3ey...=0CEMQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=screwdrivers&f=false

(page 160)