Tools from the old world

[Trucky]

Heck of a set, Hugos. Are those silica gel packets (moisture/water eaters?)


Also Monte, what's with the big head you've got? On the riveter, of course.

 

[upgrading]

Relentless Precision German Box-Joint Mini Sidecutter Pliers.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008XZVSY6/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Anyone hear of this company ?

 

[cosmik binturong]

some new, some old, some used, some that i used from new, some that i got for not using, new and old and some that will get used 'til old, or not.


first, some NOS Bahco -real made in Sweden- adjustable wrenches found at a flea market, a very nice looking and in the hand 26mm Rheidco combination wrench and an old, almost sturdier as a Hazet, Facom No. 42 flare wrench(11 & 13mm) to complete my mixed brands set:

some *good* brand new Facom screwies and an old, NOS, Beta found in a 1€ per screwie bin:

the PH1 is showing some marks on the tip due to a long hand disassembly work. stupid PH screws!!

a couple Fumasi drivers, i really like those, handles look like those of a japanese screwie i had a long time ago but the "cross sectioned" blade reminds me of some Facom, Sam, Fop, Muller, Peugeot, etc. screwdrivers from the 70s when it was fashionable for french screwdrivers to be made like that...

speaking of Fumasi, i also found a second pair of side cutters with a broken tip but also with what is for me the most confortable pliers handles...

those Knipex crimpers were "discarded" because the previous user tried to drill a hole in one of the handle but sorta missed the metallic handle under the comfort grip... "unfit for electrical work" said the boss...

offered a fiver for takin' care of 'em just in case and they followed me home:

got this cabinet multikey kit with it, free of charge, they had at least a couple hundred of those in a drawer, like it was candy...

that company is throwing away/losing thousands of euros of quality tools(like Fluke stuff, Knipex, Sibille, Facom, Agilent and more) every month for stupid -like those above- reasons... that and the fact that their workers are not caring very much for the tools helping them earn their salary.

f-tards...

this Stahlwille was found among chinese junk tools at the flea market:

poor thing it was feeling somewhat lonely... has a new home and new, german speaking, friends now!

small tin snips(jeweller's?) that were most probably from my grand father toolbox and were found by my mom while clearing out some drawers full of old stuff(they've too been cleaned before photoshoot):

still snippin' good!

no brand though...

after mrtools showed his, others asked if they were durable:

the Heyco/BMW wrench is replacing the Sam wrench that i forgot that was replacing the original flat wrench that was not there when we got it.
Gesipa NTX(shown here a few years ago) we have are in a drawer and are almost never used since we found this second hand Lobster! good job the Lobster folks!

the ever so useful Lyra Pica-Dries, first shown here by none other than Monte if i remember correctly:

a small but long 2.5mm ball-end, Wiha-made, Rothenberger-branded hex driver that will be used mainly for drivetrain fine tuning:

hey! i got a Quattro too now!
won't replace the Cobras but quite good too.
couldn't resist the less than 16€ price at Leroy-Merlin while waiting for some plywood to be priced and cut:

those NWS berliner snips are awesome -cutting as much as lookin' wise- even if that springgly-wiggly springstuff is not what i would call "well engineered" even if useful when used as intended...

they were less than fourteen euros at the same place a week later, stupid me, couldn't resist...

nah, didn't even thought about resisting!

my pocket pliers:

good, useful stuff. of course!

bought this little one for a single job with some plastic headed SFS screws:

this one is quite old world, israeli-made deburrer(can't remember if it's a Noga or another brand, probably Noga though) and is my first deburrer found anew(let's call him Spiro!):

ok gals 'n guys, that's it for now, more later!

 

[cosmik binturong]

oh yeah, a preview too:

 

[s_pellegrino]

Relentless Precision German Box-Joint Mini Sidecutter Pliers.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008XZVSY6/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Anyone hear of this company ?

looks like a Schmitz rebrand. they make very nice precision pliers, Knipex, NWS, Gedore etc all rebrand them, typically with ESD versions too

 

[superautobacs]

Cosmik,

Nice photos and tools.

I like the Berliner shears....great design.

Is Fumasi an OEM? I seem to recall seeing a screwdriver with that "+" shaped shank....I think it was a Facom.

Oh, what about FOP....an OEM? I saw that brand of screwdrivers when I was in Paris.







Hugos,

Nice display of Gedore tools in the appropriate wall storage!

A couple things I noticed....

The wrenches I circled share the same design, but differ from the rest. Do they have a different COO?

Also, what brand are the sockets that have a surface/flat-drive profile?

Also Monte, what's with the big head you've got? On the riveter, of course.

It's the storage place for all the guillotined pins.

Does it actually say Japan anywhere on the ratchet? Otherwise, I would say they have Taiwan as COO.

Those are offered by a Japanese company called SEK.

 

[hugos]

Cosmik,

Nice photos and tools.

I like the Berliner shears....great design.

Is Fumasi an OEM? I seem to recall seeing a screwdriver with that "+" shaped shank....I think it was a Facom.

Oh, what about FOP....an OEM? I saw that brand of screwdrivers when I was in Paris.







Hugos,

Nice display of Gedore tools in the appropriate wall storage!

A couple things I noticed....

The wrenches I circled share the same design, but differ from the rest. Do they have a different COO?

Also, what brand are the sockets that have a surface/flat-drive profile?










It's the storage place for all the guillotined pins.









Does it actually say Japan anywhere on the ratchet? Otherwise, I would say they have Taiwan as COO.

Those are offered by a Japanese company called SEK.

Sir, on the ones you circled: they are all Gedore, the ones you circled were just later models which i purchased after Gedore in RSA changed the the design slightly. The socket you noticed are made by King Tony.


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[superautobacs]

Sir, on the ones you circled: they are all Gedore, the ones you circled were just later models which i purchased after Gedore in RSA changed the the design slightly. The socket you noticed are made by King Tony.


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Ah, I suspected something like the one's circled were made in RSA, while the rest were from Germany.

King Tony...readily available down there?

Thanks for clarifying, Sir.






From Chiampo, Italy, by Ani blow gun I've had for a few years now, but use only occasionally. A nice ergonomic shape.

 

[node105]

Some of my handtools. Mostly Gedore, Wiha, Wera, Mastercraft and some Stanley. All Toolboxes are Gedore.


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Hugos, I have posted this before, but you might find the comparison interesting.
From the German Tool Museum, Deutsches Werkzeugmuseum, in Remscheid in March (it seems so long ago); absolutely worth a visit if in the area.

http://werkzeugmuseum.org

 

[Beenman]

Sir, on the ones you circled: they are all Gedore, the ones you circled were just later models which i purchased after Gedore in RSA changed the the design slightly. The socket you noticed are made by King Tony.

Interesting. I always assumed that the Gedore spanners that looked like these circled ones (the raised panel that extends down a bit from the open end) were German made. My RSA Gedore's do not have this extended bit, and I have seldom seen your type around here.

 

[Coventry]

Picked up this spanner for a couple of quid at a car boot sale the other day. I did a little research on Belzer but can anyone could tell me the likely COO of this, given that there's no country marked on the spanner itself?

 

[willhollin]

Picked up this spanner for a couple of quid at a car boot sale the other day. I did a little research on Belzer but can anyone could tell me the likely COO of this, given that there's no country marked on the spanner itself?

I have some Bahco ones of that model that are made in Argentina.

 

[Roverbo]

I've a few "old world" brands; mainly Facom, with a couple Würth bits.

Very nice Facom stuff, i wish i could find some of the black old type screwdrivers here in Denmark. Allthogh they are available here, i have never found any used Facom tools at fleamarkets...

Some of my handtools. Mostly Gedore, Wiha, Wera, Mastercraft and some Stanley. All Toolboxes are Gedore.

Simply Eye Candy!

Look what I find today for 150 swe crowns(like 15 euro) in the hardware store! Original price 695 swe cr:! NOS kamasa tools swivel head ratchet set(10,12,13mm) with sockets attached permanently to them! Made in Japan! Anyone know what year these things are made? Very thin sockets and short, these I going to test in tight spots

Nice Kamasa tools. You´ll get a heavy toolbox, if you ever find "all normal sizes", like 15, 17, 19 mm to make a "complete set".

some new, some old, some used, some that i used from new, some that i got for not using, new and old and some that will get used 'til old, or not.
...

...

Hi Cosmik,
whats your opinion on the Pica Dry marker? I saw them in a hardware shop in Sweden, but the price was ... SEK 180,- (nearly Euro 20,-). Same shop took SEK 140,- for a Teng Tool 13 mm spanner (non-ratcheting!), so it was just the wrong place to go shopping. I like the idea of at long, thin pencil though (marking through holes).

 

[hugos]

Interesting. I always assumed that the Gedore spanners that looked like these circled ones (the raised panel that extends down a bit from the open end) were German made. My RSA Gedore's do not have this extended bit, and I have seldom seen your type around here.

Hello OOM Beenman . . The circled ones were purchased from Gedore directly, while the older ones were purchased over the years from various stores in South Africa. I see the ones Makro sells also look like that with the bit that is longer down the handle.


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[hugos]

Ah, I suspected something like the one's circled were made in RSA, while the rest were from Germany.

King Tony...readily available down there?

Thanks for clarifying, Sir.






From Chiampo, Italy, by Ani blow gun I've had for a few years now, but use only occasionally. A nice ergonomic shape.

Sir, yes, King Tony is becoming more and more available. Some of the more specialised toolshop also stocks them now. Check out: www.thetoolshop.co.za


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[hugos]

Hugos, I have posted this before, but you might find the comparison interesting.
From the German Tool Museum, Deutsches Werkzeugmuseum, in Remscheid in March (it seems so long ago); absolutely worth a visit if in the area.

http://werkzeugmuseum.org

Thanks for the posting, will make a note to visit there! The toolbox in your pics from the museum looks nearly like mine! I had mine for a very long time, but when i look at that one i think that mine also belongs in the museum!...... Maybe it is time for a new one, i see the new versions now have pegboard inside with more arrangement options.


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[Mr MoAiZo]

New arrivals:

Stahlwille 9x12 tool holder 1820 (about 380mm long) with Facom 3/8" J.372 ratchet and Facom S.305P swivel handle. Sweet.




Stahlwille tool holder in detail.


Facom - Made in France!


All together and ready for work.

All together for just 41,50 € off an auction! I got lucky!

 

[cosmik binturong]

Hi Cosmik,
whats your opinion on the Pica Dry marker? I saw them in a hardware shop in Sweden, but the price was ... SEK 180,- (nearly Euro 20,-). Same shop took SEK 140,- for a Teng Tool 13 mm spanner (non-ratcheting!), so it was just the wrong place to go shopping. I like the idea of at long, thin pencil though (marking through holes).

hello Roverbo, 20€ for *one* Pica-Dry is pushing it a bit far in my opinion...
for the same twenty bill we got the two green ones and a box of mixed(black, yellow and red) refills in a real shop(should be cheaper on the internets methinks).

those are really useful when needed and i do carry the black one everyday in my pocket(used it half an hour ago when marking where i had to drill to put some steel fixtures on an outside wall).

 

[cosmik binturong]

Cosmik,

Nice photos and tools.

thnaks! pics are a bit less awful than before but still worse than the tools!

I like the Berliner shears....great design.

so do i! those NWS are kinda frightening in appearance, but in a good way...

Is Fumasi an OEM? I seem to recall seeing a screwdriver with that "+" shaped shank....I think it was a Facom.

don't know, looks like they're an italian tool distribution brand that source(d?) great tools( and maybe still does?)...

every french maker/rebrander of screwies had the same type of blade when it was fashionable in the 70s...

Oh, what about FOP....an OEM? I saw that brand of screwdrivers when I was in Paris.

Fob is now, methinks, more of a rebrander than a maker... too bad, some of their stuff was pretty good.

New arrivals:

Stahlwille 9x12 tool holder 1820 (about 380mm long) with Facom 3/8" J.372 ratchet and Facom S.305P swivel handle. Sweet.



All together and ready for work.

All together for just 41,50 € off an auction! I got lucky!

great price and an even greater brand-combination!




ps. i finally added some text to the pics of yesterday post...

 

[garthg]

Wish Book:

http://www.kukko.com/pdf/katalog/catalogue_gb_01.pdf

 

[Roverbo]

hello Roverbo, 20€ for *one* Pica-Dry is pushing it a bit far in my opinion...
for the same twenty bill we got the two green ones and a box of mixed(black, yellow and red) refills in a real shop(should be cheaper on the internets methinks).

those are really useful when needed and i do carry the black one everyday in my pocket(used it half an hour ago when marking where i had to drill to put some steel fixtures on an outside wall).

Thanks, Cosmik, i will locate a dealer here in Denmark.

 

[upgrading]

looks like a Schmitz rebrand. they make very nice precision pliers, Knipex, NWS, Gedore etc all rebrand them, typically with ESD versions too

Interesting.
Thanks.

 

[hugos]

Monte, some more pics, as requested.

Edit, damn, the pics are upside down, does anyone know how to correct this?


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[hugos]

Pics of the 2 types of gedore spanners.


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[Beenman]

Pics of the 2 types of gedore spanners.

Today I went and sifted through some of my spanners I keep in my portable toolbox and found an SA made Gedore like yours. Never noticed the damn thing before...

 

[Monte]

Monte, i will take some more pics tomorrow and post them. I work for Siemens in South Africa and visit Germany once or twice every year, during July or August. This year i will spend my spare time visiting some toolshops. I need to get some of the "nice" stuff like the NWS pliers.

My recent purchase was a set of the Gedore 7R ratchet wrenches, they are imported to our country, and therefore quite expensive. I still short a few sizes to complete the set. I normally travel to Erlangen and Munich, so if you know of some Toolshops i can visist in those areas, i will greatly appreciate if you can advise some names.

Regards from an "always" sunny South Africa.


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There are a couple of Gedore dealers in and around of Munich:



Auto Bedarf Bayern
Schwanthaler Str. 84
80336 München

Suckfüll
Türkenstr. 31
80799 München

Josef Wiedemann
Stahlgruberring 42
81829 München

Julius Kleemann
Lerchenauer Straße 156
80935 München

Stahlgruber
Margot-Kalinke-Str. 3
80939 München



NWS dealers in Munich:


regards from the seldom sunny Germany

Also Monte, what's with the big head you've got? On the riveter, of course.

It's the storage place for all the guillotined pins.

Relentless Precision German Box-Joint Mini Sidecutter Pliers.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008XZVSY6/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Anyone hear of this company ?

never....american brand i guess....

those NWS berliner snips are awesome -cutting as much as lookin' wise- even if that springgly-wiggly springstuff is not what i would call "well engineered" even if useful when used as intended...

the French have Berliner snips too
http://www.edma.fr/en/cisaille-indu...mm-cisaille-type-lyonnaise-3476060001214.html

oh yeah, a preview too:

Hilti ?

Picked up this spanner for a couple of quid at a car boot sale the other day. I did a little research on Belzer but can anyone could tell me the likely COO of this, given that there's no country marked on the spanner itself?

without coo = Argentina

Monte, some more pics, as requested.

Edit, damn, the pics are upside down, does anyone know how to correct this?


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very nice Gedore tool boxes !!










some consumables:

Rhodius cutting disc www.rhodius.de



Weicon cleaner spray www.weicon.de

 

[superautobacs]

Sir, yes, King Tony is becoming more and more available. Some of the more specialised toolshop also stocks them now. Check out: www.thetoolshop.co.za


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Looks like a decent selection.

....their store logo....must've been inspired by Stahlwille's logo

ps. i finally added some text to the pics of yesterday post...

Read through the added text. Entertaining read as always.


Hrmm, the French are known for starting fashion trends....it looks like the tool-fashion statement ended up being a fad....

For any Canadians reading through this, and interested in these Pica markers, Lee Valley introduced them late last year: http://www.leevalley.com/us/Wood/page.aspx?p=71121&cat=1,42936

Monte, some more pics, as requested.

Edit, damn, the pics are upside down, does anyone know how to correct this?


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Gedore boxes still look good even when viewed upside down.

...oh, you'll have to correct the orientation using your computer's photo viewing software.

 

[Mr MoAiZo]

Arrivals today

Original Swedish Bahco 9072 C.

great price and an even greater brand-combination!

Thanks cosmik!

 

[Beenman]

Sir, yes, King Tony is becoming more and more available. Some of the more specialised toolshop also stocks them now. Check out: www.thetoolshop.co.za

Talking of King Tony. How does that rubber strip on the sockets hold up during use? I see plenty of their stuff at the shops (new and 2nd hand) but have ignored it as I am not convinced that rubber strip will last. I still prefer the knurled type sockets, but the rubber strip does give the King Tony a good grip.

 

[Mr MoAiZo]

Here`s a Koken swivel head ratchet:

The odd thing is that the handle is (Tig ?) welded to the beam:

@Monte, I am interested in one.
How does the Ko-ken perform? Did you have problems with the handle?
Is the Ko-ken ratchet made in Japan? I can't remember the brand, but I thin I saw s.th. similar from China - and cheaper.

Update from my Bahco ratchets 7750 and 8150-1/2":
I did not like the "dual 80 style" mechanism. But they begin to smoothen up when you use them. Quite lovely this shallow head.

 

[cosmik binturong]

the French have Berliner snips too
http://www.edma.fr/en/cisaille-indu...mm-cisaille-type-lyonnaise-3476060001214.html

erm... looks a lot like a german-born berliner that crossed the border and disguised himself with a faux beard and an orange dress, trying to pass for a genuine lyonnais...

whatever, orange is for, you know, mostly, Beta stuff, so no thnaks!

Hilti ?

yes, had to buy another angle grinder since the Bosch seems קאַפּוט after using a heavy twisted wire steel cup brush for the better part of a day to take paint of a steel portal. looks like not much work, shot bearings only methinks.

and who doesn't need *another* angle grinder, eh?

it was either a cheap, low power, new one from the store or a quality second hand one for the same price(a crisp fifty bill changed hands for this one and seller gave me some more Hilti and Würth SDS+ drill bits and stuff to boot ). so there comes the Hilti DAG-125-S, full of grime and tile glue(sorry, forgot to take pics then). a good scrub with some green ScotchBrite pad from the kitchen and some degreaser later and it was fit for service:

the cup brush is coming straight from Lidl, no CoO on the brush nor on the packaging, probably PRC then.
as a sidenote, those bristles are tough little basterds though, they jump straight to any exposed patch of skin and sink their only tooth in it! it hurts!



had to thoroughly clean the box too, full of greasy stuff mixed with brick and tile dust and whatever was ground with it too:

NO PICTURES! (i forgot to take the box out for the photoshoot again )

here are some "comparative" shots of the Hilti and the dying Bosch instead:

and a side shot of the Bosch:

oh yeah, that one was 50 euros too when i bought it IIRC a couple years back.

anyway, after using the three i still prefer the Flex over the two others: my hands where going completely numb after less than an hour of use of the Hilti whose side handle isn't worth much, i had to put the Bosch on instead.

very nice Gedore tool boxes !!

indeed!

some consumables:

Rhodius cutting disc www.rhodius.de

nice Rhodius disc, here's what i use/used/am goin' to use with them grinders:

Read through the added text. Entertaining read as always.


Hrmm, the French are known for starting fashion trends....it looks like the tool-fashion statement ended up being a fad....

i still like them, they can be re-ground until there's no more blade unlike those round section ones...

For any Canadians reading through this, and interested in these Pica markers, Lee Valley introduced them late last year: http://www.leevalley.com/us/Wood/page.aspx?p=71121&cat=1,42936

not only have you Picquic, the robertson screw, Tim Hortons, Vancouver, mooses everywhere and Emily Batty, you also have Lee Valley!

lucky !

i before the greatness of this country and the greatness of those screwie handles:

eat that Snap-on, Wera and Facom!


too bad you have such bad mannered southern neighbours too...















hey i'm kiddin' guys, put those guns back in the safe, you're gonna hurt yerselves...

Gedore boxes still look good even when viewed upside down.

they're not upside down, that the good orientation when you in the southern hemisphere, like say, in Austaralia or Mexico!

 

[cosmik binturong]

it was either a cheap, low power, new one from the store or a quality second hand one for the same price(a crisp fifty bill changed hands for this one and seller gave me some more Hilti and Würth SDS+ drill bits and stuff to boot ). so there comes the Hilti DAG-125-S, full of grime and tile glue(sorry, forgot to take pics then). a good scrub with some green ScotchBrite pad from the kitchen and some degreaser later and it was fit for service:

quotin' meself since i forgot to show the l00t!

that's one the gems in the lot:

was rusted solid and now is buttery smooth!

other gems are the bit holders:

you can make out the rest yourself, some Hilti, Spit, Würth, Joran and Diager drill bits(and Bosch X5L used ones in one of the Hilti boxes):

this one has lost some teeth but it should be possible to weld new ones methinks:

that's it!

 

[cosmik binturong]

forgot another thing, well, a couple of things:

from Riss, made in France and on the longish -to me- side... what else can be good about those, eh?






the price of course!

"Sir, don't take those, the new ones over there are better" said the stupid clerk. "new ones" are chinese, shorter and already showing rusty spots and some missing tips...

 

[CrustyD3mon]

More old Facom Pliers:

Cutter 192-16 and Plier 187-18

A lot of use and amazing quality..no dents:

 

[Monte]

@Monte, I am interested in one.
How does the Ko-ken perform? Did you have problems with the handle?
Is the Ko-ken ratchet made in Japan? I can't remember the brand, but I thin I saw s.th. similar from China - and cheaper.

Hi,
i sold it a while ago and bought me the same one but with the plastic handle
I never really used it since "normal" ratchets or wrenches could get the job done too. It´s made in Japan, it feels nice, they have a higher tooth count than others though.

erm... looks a lot like a german-born berliner that crossed the border and disguised himself with a faux beard and an orange dress, trying to pass for a genuine lyonnais...

lyonnais ?? here in germany we only have Lyoner

yes, had to buy another angle grinder since the Bosch seems קאַפּוט after using a heavy twisted wire steel cup brush for the better part of a day to take paint of a steel portal. looks like not much work, shot bearings only methinks.

and who doesn't need *another* angle grinder, eh?

i believe you just bought another Bosch at least the internet says the Hilti angle grinders are from Bosch....
...and yes: to have 2 or 3 angle grinders is quite helpful sometimes

i think on the long run knotted cup/wheel brushes will kill any bearing.
In a company i once worked it was forbidden to use wire wheels with electric grinders, they had an air grinder for that task. Please exchange the bearings on your grinder since the gear train will be damaged next.

the cup brush is coming straight from Lidl, no CoO on the brush nor on the packaging, probably PRC then.
as a sidenote, those bristles are tough little basterds though, they jump straight to any exposed patch of skin and sink their only tooth in it! it hurts!

the brush looks quite large...i think i would use a smaller one for the small grinders....the big one for 180/230mm grinders...
Please try it You will be surprised how much lower the vibration is if you use a (smaller) quality cup brush (or better: 100mm wheel brush).
The smaller the less vibration.
Please check the maximum diameter of cup brushes allowed by Bosch here:
http://www.bosch-professional.com/fr/fr/gws-15-125-ci-28147-ocs-p/ (90mm vs. 75mm..............................................)

common brands: Lessmann, Osborn, Kullen, JAZ

e.g..: http://www.bricolage-outillage.fr/outillage-electroportatif/meuleuse-meule-et-accessoire/brosse/

anyway, after using the three i still prefer the Flex over the two others: my hands where going completely numb after less than an hour of use. the Hilti side handle isn't worth anything, i had to put the Bosch on instead.

iirc the Flex is slower ? Slower = less vibration.

 

[brit road garage]

Are bahco spanners any good?


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[cosmik binturong]

and now some field reporting!

this is what happens when you let your neighbour cut a drainage steel pipe without supervision:

using an angle grinder does not mean that you can force a cut at an angle with a 1mm disc!

luckily, no bystanding-at-a-safe-distance cat or eye was hurt when it exploded and sent pieces all over the place, including my leg.

he tried to finish the cut with a second one before i changed to the Klingspor(less prone to spontaneous explosions) seeing that the second was about to have the same fate as the first...

the last one of the 25 pack:

they're good but you have to be more careful than with some other top brands offerings(like Klingspor).

and some old -price is still in French Francs & Euros- Rhodius roof tile and ceramic cutting disc:

some flap discs, used to smooth welds and reshape some wooden doors:

actual 115 and 125mm disc stock:

with those at the bottom, given to me "a bit used" by a contractor friend:

and this one for grinding/surfacing concrete and stone(Holy Smoke! the dust this one, almost at the end of it's life, produce is unbelievable! ):

heavy as swedish metal band!

no guys, ABBA is only a "metal band" as in a "metal-flake band" sense!


the disc is made in Italy by the fine folks of Workdiamond

 

[cosmik binturong]

Hi,
i sold it a while ago and bought me the same one but with the plastic handle
I never really used it since "normal" ratchets or wrenches could get the job done too. It´s made in Japan, it feels nice, they have a higher tooth count than others though.

45-toothed, isn't it?

lyonnais ?? here in germany we only have Lyoner

lyonnais as in inhabitant of Lyon, the city, not to be confused with that big yellow african cat with bad hair habits intestinal fauna!

sorry, just seen your linked pic and it's pretty close to what a typical lyonnais looks like, especially on a f00tball field!

i believe you just bought another Bosch at least the internet says the Hilti angle grinders are from Bosch....

ach... should i repaint it blue then?

an advantage of the Hilti is that i can rotate the head by unscrewing the four front ones(and then not forget to rescrew them once the head is rotated! ).

...and yes: to have 2 or 3 angle grinders is quite helpful sometimes

don't you mean 2 and 3 and then more?

the more grinder you have the better you appreciate their increasing number!

i think on the long run knotted cup/wheel brushes will kill any bearing.
In a company i once worked it was forbidden to use wire wheels with electric grinders, they had an air grinder for that task. Please exchange the bearings on your grinder since the gear train will be damaged next.

i know, me is guilty of bad treatment to that poor innocent grinder...
it was that or nothing though and as soon as i heard the noise i stopped using it. he'll get new SKF bearings and some good greasin' and TLC on top for good service when i go back to Luxemburg!

now i've got the big, old and heavy Fein too and will be using that tomorrow to finish the job with same cup brush and bigger forearms at the end of the day!

the brush looks quite large...i think i would use a smaller one for the small grinders....the big one for 180/230mm grinders...
Please try it You will be surprised how much lower the vibration is if you use a (smaller) quality cup brush (or better: 100mm wheel brush).
The smaller the less vibration.
Please check the maximum diameter of cup brushes allowed by Bosch here:
http://www.bosch-professional.com/fr/fr/gws-15-125-ci-28147-ocs-p/ (90mm vs. 75mm..............................................)

common brands: Lessmann, Osborn, Kullen, JAZ

e.g..: http://www.bricolage-outillage.fr/outillage-electroportatif/meuleuse-meule-et-accessoire/brosse/

iirc the Flex is slower ? Slower = less vibration.

slower but even with the same cutting disc or Roloc it vibrates less than Bosch's line of blue meanies(either with same power output/speed or the 14-125CI which has only 200 more watts in the belly) the Flex is such a smooth operator.

gotta try a Suhner or a small Fein next or better, a smallish japanese one: *click!*

Monte, thnaks for the good advice(as usual!), the good links(as usual!) and for being there(as usual! ).




ps. did i post that already?

was looking at the Leister ones for a long time but couldn't justify the exhorbitant price of those, even if coming from Switzerland, for the intermittent use i have for it. this little one was in a pile of junk at a small yard sale that i almost passed without a second look.

happy - and a full euro poorer- i did not regret losing some time to give that second look!

 

[Jure]

someone know the price of hazet 630 10x13?

 

[superautobacs]

@Monte, I am interested in one.
How does the Ko-ken perform? Did you have problems with the handle?
Is the Ko-ken ratchet made in Japan? I can't remember the brand, but I thin I saw s.th. similar from China - and cheaper.

Update from my Bahco ratchets 7750 and 8150-1/2":
I did not like the "dual 80 style" mechanism. But they begin to smoothen up when you use them. Quite lovely this shallow head.

Just a heads up to be aware of the width of that Ko-ken swivel head ratchet....it's rather bulky...might be more bulky than the Wera ratchet. So, it's not ideal for working in confined spaces.

The handle...maybe the only brand that offers three different handle styles?

I have a Ko-ken 24" long breaker bar and I'm not scared of exerting all my strength on it. It's survived without issue so far.

All of their sockety items are made in Japan.


Hey, I recognize that picture from a Japanese tool blog.
Btw, the Ko-ken Zeal is smoother and even more shallow than a dual-80.

i still like them, they can be re-ground until there's no more blade unlike those round section ones...


not only have you Picquic, the robertson screw, Tim Hortons, Vancouver, mooses everywhere and Emily Batty, you also have Lee Valley!

lucky !

i before the greatness of this country and the greatness of those screwie handles:

eat that Snap-on, Wera and Facom!


too bad you have such bad mannered southern neighbours too...

good point on being able to re-ground the blade to shape. If you're crafty enough you can probably shape a Phillips-like profile. Try it out...maybe name the unique profile to something like: Cosmik #2