Tools from the old world

[bart1]

Just back from a Europe trip. Jens Putzier hooked me up with some German tools (displaying on a very American backdrop since I was over there for the 4th)

Hazet 5122 torque wrench set - very cool, includes extension and 17/19 sockets
Hazet 1/4 and 5/16 bit holders, with 1/4 and 3/8 drives respectively
Hazet 19mm protective socket
Hazet gloves (admittedly probably not made in Germany)
Also a bunch of gummy bears (not pictured) that Jens always includes

Also over there for my birthday and my friend gave me a made in Germany spare gas can and towel for the car as a gift.

 

[rumb]

In this pictures (page 4) it look more like real STAHLWILLE, strange, why is so big difference???

 

[cosmik binturong]

latest arrival in the rat department, an old Stahlwille 411 quarter inch rat. a serendipitious find of some kind, was talking to a friend at his home when his son came back from an auction with a few hundred kilograms of tools, bolts, chemicals and more in his van. and peeking out of a case full of rusty stuff was that little gem gleaming in the Sun when he opened the side door.

picked it up, got a coffee, dismantled it on his kitchen table, said "oh noes, the selector pin is broken" and got another coffee and a nice "i'm sure you can repair it, it's yours now"

and thnaks to rumb 2014 promo link, i've seen that a complete one is cheaper than the guts...

speaking of the italian pdf, there are a few things that look suspiciously italian(say more Beta-ish or USAG-ish than german, even if Gedore offers something similar but of poorer quality) in it like the 10758/4 hex set.

 

[Monte]

Schönen Dank! .

Bitte sehr

hey! what's that Bosch Rotocut shown under the blades for???.

i think it was invented to make cut outs in drywall

i don't have money for Bosch-blue tools anymore!!! .

Thats´s why they make Bosch Green

(only for Hitachi-green ones if you guys buy my Knipexes in the classifieds! )
.

Bosch Green not Hitachi (Bless you !) green

probably... some are not much used but when needed they handily beat not having them or having to rent them like the polisher.
.

You need to move to a new neighbourhood where people can borrow you polishers etc.

launching a new green business in the 'hood? .

"Dr. Greenthumbs hedge trimming service and weed distribution"

Some arrivals today. Bessey ain't what is used to be (&^&^%#*& chinese ####.

They are only clamps after all, and why would one expect the bases to be flat?
That's a foal glass plate, and an easy 1mm clearance; the others are not so poor. At least the pivot pins have reasonable fits; unlike another batch of another brand recently which shall remain nameless. General finish is modestly tidy, but the die punching leaves something to be desired; camera at limits.

Did you buy them in a store ? (warranty).
Possibly made by this company http://www.chhanson.com/products_ALP.html
(mechanism seems to be the same) AMF produces toggle clamps in Germany www.amf.de

latest arrival in the rat department, an old Stahlwille 411 quarter inch rat.

cool !!!!!!!!












Bosch maintenance/lubrication spray for hedge trimmers www.bosch-garden.com

 

[mac_intosh]

New photos from the "Lion-King"

Explanation:
It is a PR-campain from the town-council of Remscheid for companies/institutions, which can get an unpainted raw-model and paint it as they like.

The lion is related to the city arms/bearing/emblem and the monument on the place in front of the town hall.

Some other lions are already painted and - for example - standing in front of a restaurant, in entrance halls or are mounted on vans, driving around the city .

I hope I can get some extra photos from the lion on the van, soon...

 

[cosmik binturong]

i think it was invented to make cut outs in drywall

is that RotoZip the same? doesn't look like it to me...

Thats´s why they make Bosch Green

no way! do you think i'm a ****** peasant or what?

Bosch Green not Hitachi (Bless you !) green
You need to move to a new neighbourhood where people can borrow you polishers etc.

indeed, japanese green is double plus good for your health, like their tea!
and i need better neighbours sadly.

"Dr. Greenthumbs hedge trimming service and weed distribution"

that makes sense. hemp is the future. you can make anything with it, even dreams.




zee sweedee mysteree ov zee Snabbing iz solved!

found a pic of a red one along with a description "SKALVERKTYG Snabbing" on Fekto.se site: *click!*

anybody got more info? design is nice and efficient and very compact too.

 

[Roverbo]

zee sweedee mysteree ov zee Snabbing iz solved!

found a pic of a red one along with a description "SKALVERKTYG Snabbing" on Fekto.se site: *click!*

anybody got more info? design is nice and efficient and very compact too.

Snabbing can be tranlated as "the quick one". "Skalverktyg" can be translated into "peel tool", like you peel an orange, so it is for removing the plastic on (heavy) cables. Another swedish company makes a tool somewhat the same, the Abiko "Tor" skalverktyg: link. Yep, I know it is a danish webadress, but the company has branches in Kramfors, Sweden (HQ), Denmark and China . Most of the tools are made in Sweden, though .
Could you take a photo with the "Snabbing" in action?

 

[kris ltc]

first batch of for sale pliers is in the classified section: *click!*


more to come later in the day(or night).

so.. do you still had any knipex plier wrench for sales?

 

[cosmik binturong]

so.. do you still had any knipex plier wrench for sales?

oh... missed your previous post about them... sorry kris ltc.

yes, i still have two new 86 03 180 available for 25.00€/each + 14.00€ for tracked & insured shipping of one and 17.50€ for up to 900g of pliers( ).
you can see the other pliers i have for sale there: *click!*

if you're interested by something, feel free to PM me.

 

[nanofrog]

Snabbing can be tranlated as "the quick one". "Skalverktyg" can be translated into "peel tool", like you peel an orange, so it is for removing the plastic on (heavy) cables. Another swedish company makes a tool somewhat the same, the Abiko "Tor" skalverktyg: link. Yep, I know it is a danish webadress, but the company has branches in Kramfors, Sweden (HQ), Denmark and China . Most of the tools are made in Sweden, though .
Could you take a photo with the "Snabbing" in action?

Looks like rebranded Pressmaster to me. Seems they even kept the names for the strippers (Tor, Odin, and Embla).

FWIW, they do a lot of ODM contract work for companies such as crimp terminal manufacturers (i.e. Thomas&Betts' ERG4004), as well as some tool companies (Wiha and Xcelite for example).

 

[Blöckw@rt]

Wisent engineer's hammer from the Bauhaus DIY market.

Nice quality !

 

[Roverbo]

Wisent engineer's hammer from the Bauhaus DIY market.

Nice quality !

Yes, nice hammer, but unfortunately no longer made by Habero, as they used to be....(The hammer to the left in this picture is a Wisent from Bauhaus, made by Habero). 10 years ago most private label Wisent-stuff was "made in Germany" (by Matador, Wiha, Habero etc.), today most are PRC . On the other hand, Wisent hammers are very fairly priced and well made, if you go to the Bahco-department in Bauhaus you can multiply the pricetag by 2 or even 3, and the hammer is still made in China...

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[Roverbo]

Looks like rebranded Pressmaster to me. Seems they even kept the names for the strippers (Tor, Odin, and Embla).

FWIW, they do a lot of ODM contract work for companies such as crimp terminal manufacturers (i.e. Thomas&Betts' ERG4004), as well as some tool companies (Wiha and Xcelite for example).

Nanofrog, you are right! It is the same as the Pressmastertool. Funny thing, Sweden seems to be the center of all electric terminal crimpingtools. Abiko is owned by the same company as Elpress and Kablema Component, both large in the field of press fittings for cable work. In a way a natural thing, since the swedish country is very long and large, with long distances between the electric end consumers.

 

[dutch79]

Not sure if Schroeder or not. Made in Germany but brand is not printed or worn.

Most brands use the same design:
http://www.mercateo.com/kw/gewindebohrerhalter/gewindebohrerhalter.html?chooseGeo=true

 

[node105]

Then I also got a pair of (old industrial/all metal) drawer boxes of the dutch brand "Gispen" (high end furniture):

nice metal drawers dutch79!

 

[node105]

A larger than usual package arrived today for 18,000 km away; an early
Hazet goodnessl; flat double box ends 610N/12RS Made In Germany, and some lead paddles (Soldering wedges) 1965/5 - Made In Germany, MINI OILER and Tire Inflator

 

[node105]

also some Stahlwille low offset double end ring spanners 23/8 set plus a few larger sizes. Nicely made and finished like all SW. I need more drawer space.

the Knipex 16 80 125 works well for cutting of 240V power cable outer covering.
A relatively insignificant plastic device made in Germany ( or is that just the packaging?); pity Bessey couldn't bother to make their toggle clamps in the same environs.

 

[node105]

yet more: a tidy Knipex pipe gripping plier 81 03 230; plastic jaw covers are available for these.

And a plastic ( HDPE) trim tool, of good dimensions, note the round feet presumably to make it easier to pick up; kind of expensive at $31 eur ( $47 aud), but will be handy.

 

[node105]

and... some Knipex Grip pliers, the action on these ( the larger one's in particular) is excellent. Tight pivots, really solid feel, thick but a slightly raggy nickel plating ( so presumably not immersion Nickel); that will drop of with use. But check out the clean profiles on those jaw teeth.

c. 12 eur ex VAT for the 41 04 250 and 41 34 250. u14.70 eur ex VAT for the 40 04 250. Why wouldn't a bloke buy a bunch?

The red release lever pulls TOWARDS the adjustment knob, AND the release lever is longer than the bottom lever; SOOOOO much easier. I'll never use a Vise-grip again ( do I need to qualify with when V-G's were V-G's, pre irwin inflicted?).

Fair bet they are made by VBW ( nothing wrong with that, entirely respectable)

 

[durallymax]

Bit of a different tool, but a tool none the less.

Best/fastest/safest cleaner I have ever used on interiors. Smell is not bad either, but after awhile in a confined space it's not the best. The cockpit smells nice and leaves the perfect new car/truck/tractor feel/finish. Not greasy, not dull, just clean and pretty looking. Einszett and Menzerna get a lot of my business. Stuff works great.

 

[nanofrog]

Nanofrog, you are right! It is the same as the Pressmastertool. Funny thing, Sweden seems to be the center of all electric terminal crimpingtools. Abiko is owned by the same company as Elpress and Kablema Component, both large in the field of press fittings for cable work. In a way a natural thing, since the swedish country is very long and large, with long distances between the electric end consumers.

FWIW, Phoenix Contact owns Presssmaster (headquartered in Germany), but it appears to be a similar type of parent company.

 

[decaf]

Tools in action while changing a piston in a motocross motor.

Sorry for crapy quality...

 

[Monte]

New photos from the "Lion-King"

is that RotoZip the same? doesn't look like it to me... .

Bosch owns Rotozip... so maybe the outside looks different...maybe the inside not so much

no way! do you think i'm a ****** peasant or what? .

no comment

indeed, japanese green is double plus good for your health, like their tea!


and i need better neighbours sadly. .

lol
i prefer peppermint tea though or ice tea

A Hitachi dealer on the left and a Bosch dealer on the right

that makes sense. hemp is the future. you can make anything with it, even dreams.

A larger than usual arrived today for 18,000 km away; an early

Festool, Hazet, Stahlwille, Knipex... More like christmas and birthday together.... and another christmas and birthday.....and anoth....

A relatively insignificant plastic device made in Germany ( or is that just the packaging?)

tool (+ package ?) are made here...

window shopping:

 

[node105]

tool (+ package ?) are made here...

Thanks Monte.

Jokari " UNCOMPROMISINGLY GOOD 100% Made in Germany"

I had them in my tools database (now up to 730 brands, and 1278 'researched'/quoted tools; and 433 Suppliers, but had not made the association as a supplier to Knipex ( and others presumably)

This page is worth a look for those interested in cable strippers




http://www.jokari.de/en/Products--solutions.htm

Their web programming rates a complete fail re Apple Safari though, Chrome works for any interested Mac users.

 

[node105]

Originally Posted by node105 
Some arrivals today. Bessey ain't what is used to be (&^&^%#*& chinese ####.

Reply from BJ42LX
If you like I can drive over to Le Roy and ask them WTF is up with their clamps. Granted, Bessey USA is only a sales and distribution company, but they should have a say in all this with the parent company in Germany.

Thanks for the offer BJ42LX, I think they need a bit more than a what's up
It is completely idiotic, undermining their perceived position as a quality manufacturer, by getting **** made in China. Maybe they should look at what irwin did to screw up formerly good and well made brands

Bitte sehr



Did you buy them in a store ? (warranty).
Possibly made by this company http://www.chhanson.com/products_ALP.html
(mechanism seems to be the same) AMF produces toggle clamps in Germany www.amf.de


I checked out the AMF site, they are clearly targeted toward serious industrial clamping solutions, compared to Knipex's more 'manufacturing/construction/diy' focus.

The toggle clamps look better made from the few larger pics I have gleaned from elsewhere; the AMF site tool pics are limited to thumbnails ( some-one in management just does not get the modern web idiom at all; even if they think they are only targeting the supply office buyers).

I am searching for sources that ship to Oz. Amazon DE and Hoffman both list them, but do not ship to Oz on these particular items.
AMF has a web site and supposedly ships, but there web store doesn't quite work.
Hoffman is also half the price.

The AMF clamps do not appear to be self-adjusting for different material thicknesses, the Bessey toggle clamps are self-adjusting. The self adjust aspect is fantastic for setting up and receptive tasks, at least for woodworking clamping. I was a convert after receiving a delivery of another (unnamed) brand; unnamed as despite being well known and widely sold in the market , they were of such pitiful quality I was tempted to trash them (yes I could of sent them back to Amazon, in this particular case).

It did prompt me to order the Bessey's the same day I got the unnamed others though. One out of the four delivered was actually usable, despite manufacturing tolerances that a 8 year kid's school project could manage. In all fairness to brand unnamed, they responded to my email in a very admirable fashion, and a process is in train. They are apparently aware of quality control issues, and a completely new model is to be released in a year...


First image AMF, second is Bessey. The Bessey shot just shows the presumably punch die effect on baseplate slots towards the vertical , functionally it doesn't really matter, it's just sloppy production.

The AMF mounting flanges have the slots further away from the fold, much cleaner forming, and look at those pivot pins; thats how you make pressed components.

 

[ttpete]

Originally Posted by node105 
Some arrivals today. Bessey ain't what is used to be (&^&^%#*& chinese ####.

Reply from BJ42LX
If you like I can drive over to Le Roy and ask them WTF is up with their clamps. Granted, Bessey USA is only a sales and distribution company, but they should have a say in all this with the parent company in Germany.

Thanks for the offer BJ42LX, I think they need a bit more than a what's up
It is completely idiotic, undermining their perceived position as a quality manufacturer, by getting **** made in China. Maybe they should look at what irwin did to screw up formerly good and well made brands

Bitte sehr



Did you buy them in a store ? (warranty).
Possibly made by this company http://www.chhanson.com/products_ALP.html
(mechanism seems to be the same) AMF produces toggle clamps in Germany www.amf.de


I checked out the AMF site, they are clearly targeted toward serious industrial clamping solutions, compared to Knipex's more 'manufacturing/construction/diy' focus.

The toggle clamps look better made from the few larger pics I have gleaned from elsewhere; the AMF site tool pics are limited to thumbnails ( some-one in management just does not get the modern web idiom at all; even if they think they are only targeting the supply office buyers).

I am searching for sources that ship to Oz. Amazon DE and Hoffman both list them, but do not ship to Oz on these particular items.
AMF has a web site and supposedly ships, but there web store doesn't quite work.
Hoffman is also half the price.

The AMF clamps do not appear to be self-adjusting for different material thicknesses, the Bessey toggle clamps are self-adjusting. The self adjust aspect is fantastic for setting up and receptive tasks, at least for woodworking clamping. I was a convert after receiving a delivery of another (unnamed) brand; unnamed as despite being well known and widely sold in the market , they were of such pitiful quality I was tempted to trash them (yes I could of sent them back to Amazon, in this particular case).

It did prompt me to order the Bessey's the same day I got the unnamed others though. One out of the four delivered was actually usable, despite manufacturing tolerances that a 8 year kid's school project could manage. In all fairness to brand unnamed, they responded to my email in a very admirable fashion, and a process is in train. They are apparently aware of quality control issues, and a completely new model is to be released in a year...


First image AMF, second is Bessey. The Bessey shot just shows the presumably punch die effect on baseplate slots towards the vertical , functionally it doesn't really matter, it's just sloppy production.

The AMF mounting flanges have the slots further away from the fold, much cleaner forming, and look at those pivot pins; thats how you make pressed components.

Those AMF clamps are copies of De-Sta-Co clamps, the company that invented them here in the US. http://www.destaco.com/clamps.html

 

[upgrading]

window shopping:


What''s with all the soccer balls ?
One would get the impression Germany is in the World Cup finals or something.

What is that spray can in front of the gas hedge trimmer ?
Is that blade lube ?

 

[superautobacs]

Those AMF clamps are copies of De-Sta-Co clamps, the company that invented them here in the US. http://www.destaco.com/clamps.html

I was going to suggest DeStaCo as well. .....unless that was the crappy brand that Node was alluding to in his post.

According to Lee Valley, COO is either USA or Germany.

 

[node105]

Those AMF clamps are copies of De-Sta-Co clamps, the company that invented them here in the US. http://www.destaco.com/clamps.html

Thanks ttpete, I have not seen the De-Sta-Co clamps before. Have ordered some 207-U verticals, and 2027-U horizontals (new generation) from Amazonia.

They look well made from the pics. I did see somewhere in the De-Sta-Co literature made 'either in USA or Germany'.

 

[node105]

I was going to suggest DeStaCo as well. .....unless that was the crappy brand that Node was alluding to in his post.

According to Lee Valley, COO is either USA or Germany.

no it wasn't DeStaCo, I hadn't come across them before. Thanks too for suggesting them.

 

[Blöckw@rt]

 

[berol]

Picked up some NOS stahlwille extensions, quite nice.

Comparison with rahsol(gedore) and heyco.

 

[cosmik binturong]

Help wanted!

is there anybody in the US of A that can receive a few eBay/misc. US-only sites orders for me and do a consolidation/repackaging in a USPS flat rate box 'til full(probably mid to late September, maybe before but not sure) and then ship said box to me across the Atlantic? please! please! please!

i wouldn't have minded a canadian but some US sellers stubbornly refuse to send anything over the Arctic circle frontier 'cause them damn commie penguins steal all the parcels to buy some crack, or whorse, eh!

would be great if said merkun was a fast responder too and has a tatse for french/euro tools(just in case... ).

thnaks!





ps. North Country you fucktard, do not apply.

 

[superautobacs]

Re: Help wanted!

ps. North Country you fucktard, do not apply.

Hopefully someone can help you out. Good luck!

 

[franzdom]

I would be happy to help you out, PM me if you are interested.

 

[Monte]

I had them in my tools database (now up to 730 brands,

do you have a list ?

btw.: more stripping tools from Germany: http://www.weicon.com/pages/en/products/stripping-tools.php

I checked out the AMF site,

you could try: http://www.maxiloc.com.au/ for AMF or http://www.industrialtooling.co.nz/ who sells Brauer toggle clamps from the UK.

If you want self-adjusting clamps you probably have to stick with the unnamed brand or Bessey.....

Those AMF clamps are copies of De-Sta-Co clamps, the company that invented them here in the US. http://www.destaco.com/clamps.html

That´s quite possible

What is that spray can in front of the gas hedge trimmer ?
Is that blade lube ?

yes http://www.stihl.com/resin-solvent.aspx














German version of WD-40: Caramba 70 www.caramba.eu

 

[cosmik binturong]

Re: Help wanted!

I would be happy to help you out, PM me if you are interested.

seing such a tasteful circlip pliers choice of yours makes me rather inclined to accept you kind offer.

PM is a-comin'!

 

[superautobacs]

Found a tool from the Old World at my local tool store:

Winbag wedge COO=Denmark

 

[upgrading]

yes http://www.stihl.com/resin-solvent.aspx

Is that better than Fluid Film ?

 

[hemdale]

Thanks Monte, just ordered the Weicon Multi S 4-28.
You are worse than a crack dealer (but it's a compliment) !