Tools from the old world

[Dave455]

Buying both is the Garage Journal method!

I've bought some Hazet items online from 'Tools from Germany'.

I see they are offering Hazet replacement handles online now. They are really reasonably priced too!

 

[JukeBox]

Has anyone experiences with Schweißkraft TRI-MIG 240 welder? Is it good? I am interested in buying it at the end of the month.

 

[mr_jack]

@Miskin

Interesting !

Your pliers wrench is marked with Made in Germany, my ones are not.

Mine is

You can see it better on this picture:

 

[franzdom]

No, yours are marked Germany, not Made in Germany.

 

[Lofthouse]

Hi new Walter Elektro Spanner and Gedore Mini Magnetic Lifter

 

[Monte]

Cool,i dont think i will use my jacket in the garage,ill use it as a everyday jacket Bending copper will be no problem "my office desk " looks like the machine on top of the page:http://www.pedax.de/346.html just a older version made when Peddinghaus (Paul Ferd) still made them

you should get some money from Gedore if you make advertisements for them everyday on the street
wow thats an expensive office desk

Spending my last night in Bielefeld! Thanks Monte for giving me a heads up on tool stores.

seems your trip paid off

Has anyone experiences with Schweißkraft TRI-MIG 240 welder? Is it good? I am interested in buying it at the end of the month.

i dunno where this welder came from but they sell/sold welders made by Rehm in Germany













Extra long Wiha bitholder

 

[jensputzier]

Anyone know what's happened to Reilang? Their site is down and I read on another forum that they are kaput? Is this old news?

Saw this post very late. Reilang is all up and running, I am one of the larger Reilang dealers in Germany shipping worldwide and everything is totally normal here.

 

[JukeBox]

i dunno where this welder came from but they sell/sold welders made by Rehm in Germany

It is made in Slovenia by Iskra.

 

[Monte]

It is made in Slovenia by Iskra.

ahhhh ok


some products still seem to be from Germany

 

[mr_jack]

No, yours are marked Germany, not Made in Germany.

That's right, but it's practically the same, right?
It means that the pliers are made in Germany.
Or am I wrong?

 

[franzdom]

That's right, but it's practically the same, right?
It means that the pliers are made in Germany.
Or am I wrong?

Not sure, I guess that is what is being discussed. There may be some reason why some say "Made In" and others do not.

 

[Monte]

Same procedure as every year:
I visited a construction/building fair:

pics pt. 1:

misc. Hitachi tools


misc. drills: Dewalt, Makita, Förch (Dewalt), Milwaukee, Bosch.


Bomag


Bosch: new induction charging system:


misc. Bosch


new Bosch 10,8 volt vacuum


Liebherr


Sievert torches


Volvo


Malco shear w/ Milwaukee drill


JCB


Pellenc



Atlas Copco


Metesia

 

[wizard1]

It's my "Mubea" Spring Hose Clamp Pliers !

 

[shanny19]

Why do i want to film a very large man on that JCB unit in tilt-shift??????

Cool pics, thx.

 

[Skin]

Same procedure as every year:
I visited a construction/building fair:
Volvo


JCB

They're so tiny! I want one just to play with!

 

[node105]

That's right, but it's practically the same, right?
It means that the pliers are made in Germany.
Or am I wrong?

I do not take it to be the same thing, at all.

'Germany' implies that it may be made in Germany, 'Made in Germany' explicitly states it is.
'Germany' intends that we the consumer will infer that it is made in Germany, 'Made in Germany' explicitly states it is.

Deliberate ambiguity to avoid the truth.

It also seems a means of provisioning the option to have the item made offshore (i.e. china/east...) at some point, while maintaining a continuity in the presentation; i.e. a deception that the item is the same as always.


It seems to me a tactic on the part of manufacturers who just use 'Germany', to avoid having to categorically state the COO. These manufacturers are no longer to be trusted (to my way of seeing it anyway).

One step further in the deliberate ambiguity marketing strategy , is not to state anywhere on the item or even packaging where it is made; Bessey are guilty of this - 12 KR clamps bought recently have absolutely no COO indication anywhere.



It is a reasonable assertion, that most would rather buy a tool made in Germany, than one made in china/most of the east. So if a tool is stamped Made in Germany, that is a positive selling point. For a manufacturer to make a tool in Germany and not take advantage of increasing the sales appeal, does not present any obvious plausible explanation.


Using just 'Germany' alludes to the COO, it is in similar vein to other goods that are emblazoned with 'european design', 'designed in Germany' etc.; just a way of partially masking the negative perception of where it is actually made.

It is where it is made that really counts. Germany and other countries in the west, have engineering traditions.

 

[Alfajuj]

One step further in the deliberate ambiguity marketing strategy , is not to state anywhere on the item or even packaging where it is made; Bessey are guilty of this - 12 KR clamps bought recently have absolutely no COO indication anywhere.

Facom is notorious for this. They are definitely the brand which I trust the least.

I'm pretty sure though, that "Made in Germany" and "Germany" are equivalent.

Hazet are very honest about the COOs and their catalogs specifically state whether the product is made in Germany or, by omission, that they are not.
My Hazet tools are marked with either "Germany" or "Made in Germany" and I'm quite sure that it makes no difference.

 

[*reto*]

That's right, but it's practically the same, right?
It means that the pliers are made in Germany.
Or am I wrong?

In the case of Knipex I would assume that they are made in Germany. I have Knipex pliers where they stamp it three times to be made in Germany and others where the stamp is only to be found at the handle (apart from the packaging where it's always mentioned).

Knipex Cobolt, Knips and plier wrench with "Germany" near the blades and "Made in Germany" stamped into the handles.
The VDE-insulation covers the "Germany" marking of the plier wrench.
Knipex stripping pliers with only the marking in the handles.

 

[Monte]

They're so tiny! I want one just to play with!

cute huh i want one too to drive around in the garden













exhibition pt. 2

Mafell



new Mafell orbital sander:


Merlo


Milwaukee





new polisher/sander


Doosan


Fein





John Deere


Dewalt
New Dewalt flash light and USB adaptor

 

[hemdale]

More Monte, more !

 

[upgrading]

Excellent stuff as always.
Thanks !

Some of these tractors look so cool.


The thing behind it looks like a dune buggy with a crane attachment .

 

[dede2897234]

I purchased the below 2 double open end wrenches at a local close out store for $2 each. Can someone please share the year(s) produced; and/or possibly post a vintage advertisement or catalog page for the below wrenches?

I am especially fond of the Elora wrench's light golden finish .


Thanks,

Dave

 

[Monte]

I am especially fond of the Elora wrench's golden finish .

golden finish ?













exhibition pics pt 3 (last)

Metabo







new Metabo angle grinder line with up to 1700 watt


Jungheinrich


Makita


new drill and impacts made in Japan + UK


new jig saw


Menzi Muck


Festool


cordless rotary hammer


new Festool VECTURO OS 400 saw


new brushless orbital sander Festool ETS EC 150/5

 

[nanofrog]

Menzi Muck

That harvester looks cool as hell. I can also imagine it's rather easy to get into some serious trouble with it too (have a little too much fun).

 

[node105]

saw this on a web page somewhere today

 

[dutch79]

Is that a design feature?

 

[Hazet]

Menzi Muck


My organization has 6 Menzi Mucks (Made in Switzerland). We use it for stormwater canal maintenance (cleaning canal, debris removal, sanddar removal). It goes where no other machine can.

 

[Monte]

My organization has 6 Menzi Mucks (Made in Switzerland). We use it for stormwater canal maintenance (cleaning canal, debris removal, sanddar removal). It goes where no other machine can.

any pics in action ?













Craftomat jig saw blades for curves

 

[bart1]

Menzi Muck
...
My organization has 6 Menzi Mucks (Made in Switzerland). We use it for stormwater canal maintenance (cleaning canal, debris removal, sanddar removal). It goes where no other machine can.

Reminds me of this nutty guy who built a rock crawler on a similar concept...

 

[upgrading]

 

[spoon671]

^^ Hey I was looking at that. Do you like it?

 

[spoon671]

Here's an updated pic of my box! Lot's of new toys..brought back the Stahlwille 3/8" set, Gedore pieces, Wera stuff, set of Ko-Ken wheel sockets, and the Hazet 8816 while visiting Bielefeld, Germany for work.

And just for kicks, here are a couple comparison pics of a Snap-On and a Gedore. (Aaaaahh I have imperial Snap-On wrenches in my box, I'll find German replacements soon!)

 

[dutch79]

And just for kicks, here are a couple comparison pics of a Snap-On and a Gedore. (Aaaaahh I have imperial Snap-On wrenches in my box, I'll find German replacements soon!)

Then the Hazet 600N combination wrenches are the way to go! They are the strongest wrenches on the market (according to the test of Oldtimermarkt).

 

[hemdale]

Just wanted to show you this.

Wiha. German. Old world.
Perfect.

But this ?
Saint Valentine maybe ?

If herr Monte could translate, maybe they have a hypoallergenic coating for the handles (built-in moisturizing feature)...

 

[franzdom]

I wonder if she knows what a screw is?

 

[dutch79]

Das ideale Geschenk zum Valentinstag...
Seriously?

By the way, just arrived...

Gedore socket rail for 3/8" Hazet sockets (magnetically mounted on Hazet Assistent):



..and a Gedore rail for 1/2" impact sockets mounted (magnet) on the side of my '52 Hazet cabinet:

 

[Oilfinger]

Hi,

does anybody have additional information about my ½” Hazet Set. As far as I know it was fabricated from 1933. I was wondering about the mint-green paintwork which is 100% original. The sockets are metric from 12mm to 32mm. It seems that these tools were hardly used the last 80 years.
I would be grateful for any information !

 

[dutch79]

That's an old set! Actually there are no catalogs available older than 1951, so it will be hard to estimate the year. Why do you think it's from '33?

 

[Oilfinger]

The ratchet was introduced in 1933 as member "mac intosh" post in #11880 on page 594 an #11884 on Page 595 in this threat

 

[Alfajuj]

Wow! You lucky dog! Prewar Hazet is as rare as hen's teeth.

Have to admit though, looking at that ratchet makes one realize that the Snap-On tools of that era were much more advanced...

Is it stamped sheet steel?

1933 No.71 ratchet