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Miskin

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Hello to everyone!
I'm an electrician engineer and i'm interested to buy some screwdrivers.
I have already a set of Stanley (Stanley 5-62-573 FatMax VDE) and i'm not satisfied with the quality.

I'm looking some products from wera
a)http://www-de.wera.de/product_detai...kraftform_stainless_vde_3160_i_7_rack&lang=en
b)http://www-de.wera.de/product_detai...us__series_100_vde_160_i_165_i_7_rack&lang=en
c)http://www-de.wera.de/product_detai...tform_comfort_vde_1160_i_1165_i_7_vde&lang=en

or facom set ADVE.J6PB FACOM

Also i'm looking to buy this http://www.knipex.com/index.php?id=1216&L=1&page=group_detail&parentID=1324&groupID=1522
*(only 2 pieces 4mm, 5mm i think is the most recent)

and this http://www.knipex.com/index.php?id=1216&L=1&page=group_detail&parentID=1324&groupID=1520
*(only 2 pieces 10 and 13 ithink is the most recent)

Which of these would you choose?
Thanks a lot!

Welcome to GJ! Check PB Swiss screwdrivers.
 

manolaskakis

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Personally, I'd buy the Knipex. They're made in Germany and the quality is top-notch. (While Wera is a German brand, they aren't manufactured in Germany for the most part.)

Have you looked at PB Swiss and Witte? Those are also top-of-the-line screwdriver specialists

I have a lot of Knipex tools and are my best of hand tools
but i cant find screwdrivers here to see them closely (only on internet)

The same happens with the Wera. i cant find a shop here (in Greece) to see them and hold them. But I have read that Wera made very well in screwdrivers (i have the joker tools from Wera)

And that is the reason of my post.. I would like your experience here

All that I find here are Facom and and looks professional (and have lifetime warranty i think)

I dont like the PB Swiss insulated screwdrivers
 
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Miskin

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I have a lot of Knipex tools and are my best of hand tools
but i cant find screwdrivers here to see them closely (only on internet)

The same happens with the Wera. i cant find a shop here to see them and hold them. But I have read that Wera made very well in screwdrivers (i have the joker tools from Wera)

And that is the reason of my post.. I would like your experience here

All that I find here are Facom and and looks professional (and have lifetime warranty i think)

I dont like the PB Swiss insulated screwdrivers

Where is "here" ? :confused:
 

egfdevos

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Hello to everyone!
I'm an electrician engineer and i'm interested to buy some screwdrivers.
I have already a set of Stanley (Stanley 5-62-573 FatMax VDE) and i'm not satisfied with the quality.

I'm looking some products from wera
a)http://www-de.wera.de/product_detai...kraftform_stainless_vde_3160_i_7_rack&lang=en
b)http://www-de.wera.de/product_detai...us__series_100_vde_160_i_165_i_7_rack&lang=en
c)http://www-de.wera.de/product_detai...tform_comfort_vde_1160_i_1165_i_7_vde&lang=en

or facom set ADVE.J6PB FACOM

Also i'm looking to buy this http://www.knipex.com/index.php?id=1216&L=1&page=group_detail&parentID=1324&groupID=1522
*(only 2 pieces 4mm, 5mm i think is the most recent)

and this http://www.knipex.com/index.php?id=1216&L=1&page=group_detail&parentID=1324&groupID=1520
*(only 2 pieces 10 and 13 ithink is the most recent)

Which of these would you choose?
Thanks a lot!

From those options I would choose the wera.

As an electriciën myself I prefer the PB Swiss.
Wera would be my second choice

It comes down to personal prefference.
They are al good screwdrivers.
 
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Kracin

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i prefer the wera also, but i fell in love with their chiseldrivers a long time ago. the electrical ones are good as well, just don't bother with the laser tipped ones. the laser etching wears off too quickly for my taste.
 
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Monte

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Decent light.
yep :thumbup:
Very nice! Would be interested if I didn't have a similar one (Powerhand) yet.
if you already have Bosch 10,8 volt tools
the light would make sense :)
Yes, to me, Bernstein tools are very well worth it, just not worth paying basically twice in shipping than what they actually cost-which are expensive by the way. One can not only see but feel the professional quality of the tools that Bernstein produces. Very well worth paying for. Its a lot less $$$ in shipping from Europe than from Australia or South Africa, that's for damn sure!

As for pictures, well I don't take pictures of every tool that I get. If I did I'd have a **** load of post in GJ, but I have posted a few. Here is a picture that I posted of a Bernstein nut driver set back in 2013, reference post #7146.....

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2926225#post2926225


....for those who have doubt about my fixation of Bernstein tools. :D
:) The brand is quite uncommon (in the meantime ?) since the radio/TV repair business is virtually dead, so i´m always surprised to see them on- or offline... "my" dealer still has a couple of yellow handled 90 degree allen screwdrivers laying around and one of these tiny screwdriver sets with plastic blade.
So do you work on radios or TV´s or is it just the yellow handle you like ? :)

Hello to everyone!
I'm an electrician engineer and i'm interested to buy some screwdrivers.
did you check out the Wiha "slim" drivers ?
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Monte, where is made the Bosch DeciLED?
China
What is the sticker on the deciled? Some lever and heart?
I am surprised not magnetic attach.
55 eur rrp.
it has magnets. The two horizontal strips next to the heart pacemaker warning sticker are the magnets:


Offcourse it has a magnet. Right?
yes :)














small Bessey table clamp
 

Mr. Tool

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...:) The brand is quite uncommon (in the meantime ?) since the radio/TV repair business is virtually dead, so i´m always surprised to see them on- or offline... "my" dealer still has a couple of yellow handled 90 degree allen screwdrivers laying around and one of these tiny screwdriver sets with plastic blade.
So do you work on radios or TV´s or is it just the yellow handle you like ? :)...


Monte, in all honesty, a bit of both.

In my profession I am in electronics and have used quite a number of tools specifically for electronics and as in everything concerning tools used, some are good and some are not. So when I first happen to become aware of Bernstein tools I started to investigate. Really was skeptical at first but realizing why they were not as common and knowing that they are not availabel here in the U.S. market, I took a chance and placed an order. I am not an expert on tools but when an individual uses tools on a daily basis, one quickly learns on what tools are of good quality against those that are cheaply made.

Now with that said, personally myself, I am the type of individual that not only appreciates fine quality made tools but also their apperance as well, believe it or not. Other tool manufactures, I strongly feel, that also fits into this catagory is PB Swiss Tools and Ko-Ken tools! To me it is how a tool is made, quality wise, etc. that is just half of it, the other half is how they handle, perform and look. But I know and realize that this is not the case for every tool manufacture and thats understandable. Basically, for me, quality is what is of the highest preference.

But yes, those Bernstein tools yellow handle trade mark are something to look at! :lol_hitti

Here is a link to their catalog: http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/314983.pdf

http://www.bernstein-werkzeuge.de/en/products/catalogue-brochures/

http://www.bernstein-werkzeuge.de/files/kataloge/bernstein-gesamtkatalog-en.pdf
 
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Luis Arturo

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Pliers RSUa 160 vintage made ​​in Poland, the handle been covered with pieces of hose to add some comfort to use it (this was done locally, and coming as it appears in the picture box).

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Faster than expected (ran into a nicely priced set), I bought a NEW set of the Hazet 600N (6 - 24 mm) combination wrenches with an inlay included... :drool:



...and this is how our son feels about them: :)

 

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@dutch79; where to you buy your Hazet tools from in the Netherlands? Can you recommend on-line dealers or shops in Den Haag area?

Thanks!
 
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Hazet and Wiha sure look good! :drool:

New stuff - again.

Snap-On hex sockets. Got a very good deal from a local salesman and couldn't resist - ~50% off :). They look lovely and the fit is top notch.


New stuff from Gedore. "Blitz" water pump plier along with "Nautic Corostop" items and regular 1/2" ratchet along with 1/2" sockets. I needed a set of fractional size sockets and those were the cheapest :dunno:.






The corostop ones finish looks from outta space :).



The 5mm hex is the only one which wouldn't fall over to the blade side and roll away. Good boy!



Gedore/Baldur spindle pressure pads for axle bores (hollow shafts).




Two are marked as Baldur, the rest has no marking on it.

As cosmik would say it: Sorry for the crappy cell phone pics.
 

snowblindb

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I just found out that I have a couple of Bahco knives in my toolbox that I could share with you guys.
First and second knive are made for demolition, replacing chisel and prying things with very thick blades and big handles. Third and fourth are traditional knives with normal size blades.

Can you guess which one is made in Sweden without looking the answer in close-up photo? :headscrat

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Monte

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Monte, in all honesty, a bit of both.
I don´t know if it a red handle would turn you on as well :) but you might want to check out old german "Belzer" tools since they had a lot electronics hand tools as well. If you have some tips regarding the good/bad/ugly of electronics tools let us know. (especially the ones to avoid :))
Bernstein tools surely look nice and also have a certain sense of style/design like the PB swiss tools (they only make a few tools, but the few tools they make they make them really good). If you should have some more pics of your tools/work place.... :)

Gedore/Baldur spindle pressure pads for axle bores (hollow shafts).
are they flat or do they have a "step" ?

Can you guess which one is made in Sweden without looking the answer in close-up photo? :headscrat
the 3rd from left is from Mora/sweden :D











Wilpu jig saw blades www.wilpu.de


 
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I was in the same predicament, I found only bringing common sizes in deeps worked well like 10mm 13mm 15mm 17mm and 19mm


Sent from the sticks
 

Mr. Tool

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I don´t know if it a red handle would turn you on as well :) but you might want to check out old german "Belzer" tools since they had a lot electronics hand tools as well. If you have some tips regarding the good/bad/ugly of electronics tools let us know. (especially the ones to avoid :))
Bernstein tools surely look nice and also have a certain sense of style/design like the PB swiss tools (they only make a few tools, but the few tools they make they make them really good). If you should have some more pics of your tools/work place.... :)

Yes, I know about 'Belzer' tools and have been on the lookout for those vintage red handle tools but they are so hard to come by. I would like to get some with that red handle trademark? My main tip on tools generally would be to not spend money $$$ on tools made in or from China. Tools made from there are O K if you need something quick or working on something that is not important but they are definitely not for serious use, IMO. There are various tools used for electronics that are cheaply made but are distributed under another manufacturers name are common in electronic places such as Altex, Radio Shack, etc. if you are a serious tool user and buyer never buy tools for electronics from those places. All they offer are over priced, cheaply made tools from China. These will be listed under various name manufacturers.
As for pictures of my work place well for security reasons I really can't get into detail about what exactly or specifically I do and I definitely cannot take or show pictures of my work place.
This distributor that you say has a few Bernstein tools could you be more specific on exactly what he has? Also any ideas where I can get those Belzer red handle tools? (other than EBay).
 
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nanofrog

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Yes, I know about 'Belzer' tools and have been on the lookout for those vintage red handle tools but they are so hard to come by. I would like to get some with that red handle trademark?
Found a couple of insulated ones (here and here; UK source).

Probably adding gasoline to a fire, but have you also considered CK Tools' HD Classic line (brochure)?

Quite nice as well IMHO (come in yellow/amber or red), and this #2 Phillips stubby uses CrMo rather than CrV.
 

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Today i got a 24mm Stahlwille open box 14.Expensive though, 24 euros i paid for this one .I have had them 8-22mm for a while.This is for myself, gotta have it in my homebox.I Will need it on some bikes or maybe cars.I don't own a car myself, but i can work on them.
 

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Don't get all excited pal, just a combination wrench, nothing special.It's not like i took a pic of it for the occasion.Maybe i should have?With me shaking the hand with the man who sold it to me.No just kidding.
 
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Mr MoAiZo

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are they flat or do they have a "step" ?




Those look interesting.
I see they have a few versions of this plier.

I have pictures taken for you. I own a 1930s plier of the same style.
It is not as easy to use as the new one, as you have to unbolt the screw to adjust the plier.









They seem very durable.
The new one has two times the weight of a comparable "Cobra-style" water pump plier and is entirely made out of steel.
I got it from this dealer. They were even cheaper - 6,99€.
 

Roverbo

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Faster than expected (ran into a nicely priced set), I bought a NEW set of the Hazet 600N (6 - 24 mm) combination wrenches with an inlay included... :drool: ...

:drool: +1 - wish i had an excuse for buying a complete set. From my POW it´s the best combination wrench.

I just found out that I have a couple of Bahco knives in my toolbox that I could share with you guys.
First and second knive are made for demolition, replacing chisel and prying things with very thick blades and big handles. Third and fourth are traditional knives with normal size blades.

Can you guess which one is made in Sweden without looking the answer in close-up photo? :headscrat

...
the 3rd from left is from Mora/sweden :D

:lol: Yes, the one with the worst finish. Too bad, that neither Bahco nor Hultafors make their knives in Sweden, good finish or lack of, the swedish steel is awsome. And Welcome, Snowblind!
 
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Monte

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Yes, I know about 'Belzer' tools and have been on the lookout for those vintage red handle tools but they are so hard to come by. I would like to get some with that red handle trademark? My main tip on tools generally would be to not spend money $$$ on tools made in or from China. Tools made from there are O K if you need something quick or working on something that is not important but they are definitely not for serious use, IMO. There are various tools used for electronics that are cheaply made but are distributed under another manufacturers name are common in electronic places such as Altex, Radio Shack, etc. if you are a serious tool user and buyer never buy tools for electronics from those places. All they offer are over priced, cheaply made tools from China. These will be listed under various name manufacturers.
As for pictures of my work place well for security reasons I really can't get into detail about what exactly or specifically I do and I definitely cannot take or show pictures of my work place.
This distributor that you say has a few Bernstein tools could you be more specific on exactly what he has? Also any ideas where I can get those Belzer red handle tools? (other than EBay).
It will be difficult to find Belzer tools besides Ebay (of course you can still find some at stores over here) i guess if you´re located in the US since these tools were mainly sold in Germany, Austria and Switzerland afaik. If i search the net for "Belzer" mostly "Bahco-Belzer" (new style) tools appear...
I will see next week what my dealer has in stock of Bernstein and Belzer...
I own a very little amount of chinese hand tools, i think i have a chinese Tajima scraper and 2 or 3 other things... about 0,5% of my tools. :) I usually try to find something with the "right" coo :) not only in case of tools :)
...So you work for Apple or the Military ? :D

if you like translucent handles you could check out the "Wiha Classic" line too:
http://wihatools.com/100seri/153serie.htm
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some more Klingspor cutting discs:

 

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few days ago i have seen someone's post here in the topic about gedore 1B,bad finish,rust etc etc...well i HATE gedore,but on the craigslist i ALWAYS find a outstanding deal on never used gedore's sets,well i have bought 1/2 set,3/8,1B set,1/2 e torx set etc etc and i have no idea why but after some time you start to love all that imperfections which are coming from gedore :lol: i'm lazy to take all that pics,but here is a few..and no they are not made in india :lol_hitti

off center
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and this one isnt even round :lol: + rust spots
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after a few beers in gedore's factory it looks like this
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Don't get all excited pal, just a combination wrench, nothing special.It's not like i took a pic of it for the occasion.Maybe i should have?With me shaking the hand with the man who sold it to me.No just kidding.


Lots of people post pics of their newly acquired tools. I didn't ask to borrow money from you or anything.
 

spoon671

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few days ago i have seen someone's post here in the topic about gedore 1B,bad finish,rust etc etc...


I'll check on my new Gedore Germany stuff when I get home. Off the top of my head, everything I have is superb quality.
 
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