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STAYER Angle grinder . SA115
Made in Italy. model 1989
 

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maico

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Received my new Germany tools :D
Here we go..Gedore Rotband Plus Engineer Hammer -my dreams hammer
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Awesome RotBand Plus technology:thumbup:
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Gedore RotBand Plus Club Hammer..
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Plenty of Gedore RotBand goodness on display in mrtools post. Here's my engineers with a 800g head and a 3.5 Kg head big daddy maul....

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Had a big box arrive from Germany.

Gedore group items.The hacksaw has a nice alloy casting. The blades appear to be Spanish made as is perhaps the saw ?
Carolus are Gedore's budget brand. The pin punches were under 3 euros each. They seem identical to the Gedore centre punch in quality.

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Hazet ****. The t-handles are not German made, perhaps Slovenia ? They feel excellent in hand with a combination of soft rubber and hard plastic.

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Knipex. The 180mm pliers are their cheapest ones under 9 euros. I keep them in the car as spares. Personally would recommend the more expensive plastic handle variant for constant use.

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Plenty of Gedore RotBand goodness on display in mrtools post. Here's my engineers with a 800g head and a 3.5 Kg head big daddy maul....

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Those are the sexiest hammers ever !
 

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Are the heads on the gedore hammers made by picard?

You can see Gedore sledge hammer and axe heads ( Ochsenkopf) being forged in this video at 9 mins 40 sec. Also pliers being made at Gedore Austria.


 
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Monte

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When I do a search for this product it leads me back here.
me too :)

What about this green one:drool:
"Reca" brand ?

Who makes these pliers?
The manufacturers name seems to be hidden under the lower red handle ..."Orbis" maybe ...?

STAYER Angle grinder . SA115
Made in Italy. model 1989
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Had a big box arrive from Germany.

Gedore group items.The hacksaw has a nice alloy casting. The blades appear to be Spanish made as is perhaps the saw ?
Carolus are Gedore's budget brand. The pin punches were under 3 euros each. They seem identical to the Gedore centre punch in quality.
nice haul !
The sawframe should be from O.M.A.T. from Italy.
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Available from many different brands (Gedore, Würth, Lux, Promat, Forum, Format, Primat, 3 Eichen, Connex, Meister, Circum, Fortis, Stubai, Cimco, Atorn, Hawe, Protec...)

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Are the heads on the gedore hammers made by picard?
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nice haul !
The sawframe should be from O.M.A.T. from Italy.
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Available from many different brands (Gedore, Würth, Lux, Promat, Forum, Format, Primat, 3 Eichen, Connex, Meister, Circum, Fortis, Stubai, Cimco, Atorn, Hawe, Protec...)

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Spare Chain and my Gedore/Habero Rotband collection ;)
 

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Got a few 'new' hazet tools today, I'm in the process of cleaning them up, but though i would post this one now as it has me stumped:


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Going by its relative crude manufacture and my limited knowledge of early hazet tools i would say early 50's at the latest,

Its about 6" long, appears to be forged with the forging marks roughly ground off and the shank crudely ground to shape (its far from round).
What appears to be the drive end with the detent ball is 1/2 hex rather then square, the other end is about 5/16" or 9mm and has had quite a bit of force put through it judging by the twist in the end, that or the metal is relatively soft.

Other then the Hazet logo (small 'a') and made in Germany the only marking on it is 'SPECIAL MATERIAL'

have seen early socket tools by other manufactures using a similar style of hex drive, but didn't know hazet made such tools, if indeed that's what it is.

If anyone knows any better as to what its original use was I'd love to hear (also looking to move it on if anyone is interested).
 

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It's a pre-war and pre 1930 socket extension.

The hex slot was common in that time and had been changed - I think because of standartization around 1930.

Nice and rare tool you got there!
 

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Ratchet.

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It's a pre-war and pre 1930 socket extension.

The hex slot was common in that time and had been changed - I think because of standartization around 1930.

Nice and rare tool you got there!

Thanks :thumbup: I didn't realize it was that old, saying that have seen a few other manufacturers using this type of drive around the same era, but mainly USA manufacturers.

It came from ebay with a few newer bits of hazet 9mm 603 spanner, a nice 1/4 drive extension and a 17mm impact socket, all west Germany marked capital 'A' stuff

Will probably hang onto it for now as something interesting to own, despite it being of little use without the corresponding sockets etc have a couple of wrenches with a similar black finish which i assume are from around the same time,
 
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The second member of the Bosch family GDR 10.8-LI

Any rumors from Europe about Bosch making more brushless into their 10.8v line?

I also really like their new 18v Flexiclick drill, I'd want that as a 10.8v tool though.
 

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I'll be looking out for those blades over here soon, we always seem to be behind over here, and those Swiss made blades are actually pretty good.
 
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Monte

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Any rumors from Europe about Bosch making more brushless into their 10.8v line?

I also really like their new 18v Flexiclick drill, I'd want that as a 10.8v tool though.

The 10.8 volt brushless impacts (1/4" female drive and 3/8" male drive) and 10.8 volt brushless drywall screwdriver will be released in may it seems.


I'll be looking out for those blades over here soon, we always seem to be behind over here, and those Swiss made blades are actually pretty good.
yeah they are good ! Good price too ! Aldi sometimes sell german made recip and jigsaw blades for cheap too.
 

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Is Switzerland the only country who knows how to make sawblades? All my Bosch jigsaw blades are Swiss, as are my Craftsman recip saw blades.
 
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Monte

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Is Switzerland the only country who knows how to make sawblades? All my Bosch jigsaw blades are Swiss, as are my Craftsman recip saw blades.
nope :) Germany too :D Festool, AEG, Wolfcraft and Milwaukee (EU) jig saw blades are made in Germany for example and Hitachi offers recip saw blades made in Germany ....

The 2 saw blade companies from Germany which I know of are MPS and Wilpu
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lol is this some kind of joke or its really rare item from hazet?? i have found it @ flea market today...and dude is selling the same one for a insane price
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crazy !!! :shocking::lol:
 
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haha yes,dude seems to be out of his mind :lol_hitti

wow.. and its missing the drive square :wtf:

That said small 'a' hazet stuff makes silly prices on ebay, in the US anyway, and not just the ones that were vw/Porsche tool kits

I have seen AF and whitworth hazet stuff labeled as from a vw toolkit before now :lol_hitti
 

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Is Switzerland the only country who knows how to make sawblades? All my Bosch jigsaw blades are Swiss, as are my Craftsman recip saw blades.

Bosch is one of the worlds largest manufacturers of jigsaw and reciprocating saw blades. There's basically a remote town in Switzerland where Bosch manufactures their jigsaw, and reciprocating saw blades, as well as other tooling. This is an article from Wood Magazine that mentions it.

http://www.woodmagazine.com/blogs/w...-tools-and-boschs-place-in-the-global-market/


There are other manufacturers around the world but they don't seem to be as well known in the USA.

Lenox manufactures jigsaw and reciprocating saw blades in the USA. They may also make rebranded blades for other companies such as the USA made Dewalt and Porter Cable blades.

http://www.lenoxtools.com/Pages/Home.aspx

Magicut Ultra Tools of France, formerly Demurger Cie, and Ultra Nova S.A.S, has a large production plant in France where it produces 90% of the saw blades made in France, and presumably the ones sold by Facom. I believe Century Tool, and Forney may have also been selling rebranded Ultra blades.

http://www.magicut.net/about_us.html

Starrett produces blades in the USA, UK, China, and Brazil, although most jigsaw and reciprocating saw blades I've seen from them have come from Brazil.

http://www.starrett.com/saws/saws-hand-tool-products/power-tool-accessories

Eclipse Tools still manufactures saw blades in the UK. I'm not sure whether their jigsaw blades are also manufactured in the UK but a number of their other blades are.

http://www.spear-and-jackson.com/catalogues-price-lists

Most carbide grit jigsaw and reciprocating saw blades I've seen from different manufacturers have actually been manufactured in the UK. I'm not sure who actually makes them but this includes the blades from Bosch, Lenox, and Remgrit. The Lenox diamond reciprocating and jigsaw blades I've seen where also made in the UK.

The Makita jigsaw blades used to be manufactured in Japan. More recently most of the ones I've seen have been made in Switzerland, presumably by Bosch, but Makita may still have their blades made in Japan for other markets. From what I know about Japanese manufacturing, I presume there still must be at least one manufacturer of reciprocating and jigsaw blades in Japan.
 

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Stahlwille news for 2013:

Stahlwille 512QR N - QuickRelease-Feinzahnknarre
1/2" dr. quick release fine tooth ratchet (60 teeth)

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Elora news:

72 tooth 1/2" Elora ratchet 770-L1K
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Talking of Elora, a brand that seems to have a very low profile here, I stumbled across this factory promo video. The footage of the ratchet design is well done. They certainly seem to be beavering away and in good health...

 
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I have a K.S.Tools ratchet screwdriver T handle. It is a great little tool with removable 1/4" shank so you can swap screwdriver shanks for 1/4" square drive shanks for sockets. Quite similar to Snap On and is very good quality. Price was good too.
 
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Is Switzerland the only country who knows how to make sawblades? All my Bosch jigsaw blades are Swiss, as are my Craftsman recip saw blades.
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I'm trying these based on Monte's say-so:
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Is the Parkside recip saw any good, Monte?
i don´t know :)
I guess for occasional hobby work it might be ok.

However the reality is that tests show that this type of power tool ("no name") only last a few hours. For example in the last test of angle grinders from a german test magazine the tools sometimes last less than 10 hours (Meister Basic) or between 17 (Budget ) and 23 hours (Bonus ). Skil, Bosch Green, Metabo etc. are often the better choice for DIY users if they want a tool which last longer.















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My Dad bought a pair of Parkside angle grinders, the 4 1/2" lasted not long, the 9" did better but then the soft start blew up, we removed that module but it draws so much on start up it pops a lot of plug fuses. The cheapest grinders from the known brands are only a bit more expensive so I buy those mostly.
 

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A set of Eclipse tap holders, to replace the crappy one that came with my crappy tap set.
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I felt I had to buy these after getting a long-reach one to enable re-tapping of exhaust clamp holes where the frame tubing was in the way.
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Not sure whether these Eclipse tools are still made in the UK or not. I assume so, but these days you can't be sure.
 
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