Tools from the old world

[north]

If you could downsize the pics a wee bit losvre?

 

[losvre]

I am sorry for the pics' size. I have upload them again via the forum.

Again, trying to get used to Tapatalk for faster/ easier posting but I have some issues

Cheers

 

[superautobacs]

I was also looking for the PBSwiss hammer, but then I also like the Lixie one. The difference is that PBSwiss uses disks and Lixie the pellets.

Lixie has two different PU plastic faces, not nylon. Any feedback??

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Once you go with a PB Swiss deadblow hammer, you'll be hooked. I've been using them for 5+ years (#3 and their largest #7). When people borrow and use the #7 they are always blown away by its performance.

 

[losvre]

Once you go with a PB Swiss deadblow hammer, you'll be hooked. I've been using them for 5+ years (#3 and their largest #7). When people borrow and use the #7 they are always blown away by its performance.

For comparative reason we would need to buy one of each right

Thanks for the feedback!

 

[HCNDM]

I believe the correct term for what we do here is: enabling.

I added ten tools to my wish list in the last week alone.

I wouldn't have it any other way!


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[T45]

Once you go with a PB Swiss deadblow hammer, you'll be hooked. I've been using them for 5+ years (#3 and their largest #7). When people borrow and use the #7 they are always blown away by its performance.

do you like the #3 size or have thouhts vs the #2 or #4?

in other words is that the right one to get for multi-use stuff? tks

do you wish is was bigger or smaller etc.

 

[sljeme345]

nice little set ! How do you like the case ?

When I got the set, I was surprised that the plastic case. At first sight, the case is solid and sturdy.

 

[maico]

Monte, where did you get the kettle from? I am also looking a kettle made in Europe but all I can see in UK are made in China, and I mean all differnt brands, tefal, Philips, etc.

Why not buy British ? https://www.dualit.com/our-story although admittedly only the classic toaster is still British made.

 

[maico]

https://www.prof-tools.nl/detail.asp?Lang=1&Prod=115539


behold , probably the most expensive hammer I will ever buy, ordered with a garnish of other pb swiss tools , I was a pbswiss virgin.

waiting for the postman....

Mines the no.4 (PB 304.4) Got it from www.toolspot.nl for 34 euro who curiously didn't charge me any BTW.

In case anyone is wondering, the badger skull was found in my garden and the folding knife is an American made Zero Tolerance ZT 0550 with a custom made carbon fiber handle.

 

[maico]

Thor soft face hammers

I find the coiled leather end useful for whacking things Neanderthal style without marking it. The rawhide and copper ends splay out mushroom style as it breaks in over time.

 

[superautobacs]

For comparative reason we would need to buy one of each right

Thanks for the feedback!

True, especially since the face materials are different between those two brands so there's a legitimate reason to get both.

do you like the #3 size or have thouhts vs the #2 or #4?

in other words is that the right one to get for multi-use stuff? tks

do you wish is was bigger or smaller etc.

IMO, the #2 would be for craft type/light-duty work. If I were to get just one size, it'll have to be the #5.

 

[Cwalter]

All-purpose Shears :

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VBW hammer for light work :

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[Superbec]

Hey Cwalter, next time you use your time machine can you buy some Microsoft stocks for me?

thanks

 

[HCNDM]

All-purpose Shears :

VBW hammer for light work :

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Those old western germany tools are cool

I have a bahco hammer (+- five years old) that looks the same other than different colors. It's also labeled 2-27 and just Germany, on the other side if i remember correctly. May have to go dig it up tonight after work and take for pics.

Would seem VBW still exists but does only pliers these days?

 

[Cwalter]

Those old western germany tools are cool

I have a bahco hammer (+- five years old) that looks the same other than different colors. It's also labeled 2-27 and just Germany, on the other side if i remember correctly. May have to go dig it up tonight after work and take for pics.

Would seem VBW still exists but does only pliers these days?

VBW like Knipex from beginning to specialize, pliers makes. I guess the hammer must be remark. But I do not know exactly who the original manufacturer.

Hey Cwalter, next time you use your time machine can you buy some Microsoft stocks for me?

thanks

I only accept orders from Europe
American goods here is very rare. So I was, until the fuel ran out.
I just find it.from 1960s. Hope you like it.

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Sorry for off topic.

 

[Monte]

At first sight, the case is solid and sturdy.

I find the coiled leather end useful for whacking things Neanderthal style without marking it. The rawhide and copper ends splay out mushroom style as it breaks in over time.

A copper hammer is on the wishlist Is the rawhide more comparable to plastic or rubber...or... ?

Those old western germany tools are cool
I have a bahco hammer (+- five years old) that looks the same other than different colors. It's also labeled 2-27 and just Germany, on the other side if i remember correctly. May have to go dig it up tonight after work and take for pics.
Would seem VBW still exists but does only pliers these days?

All of these hammers are made by HKR i think

. I guess the hammer must be remark. But I do not know exactly who the original manufacturer.

All of these hammers are made by HKR i think

. VBW like Knipex from beginning to specialize, pliers makes.

btw. pliers....interesting "Tanos" pliers.... looks like an NWS copy..... ...Made in....?

 

[maico]

Would seem VBW still exists but does only pliers these days?

Part of the Stahlwille GmbH. They make a wide range of Stahlwille pliers
http://www.vbw.de/

 

[Monte]

my new PPE tool made by ESP

 

[Cwalter]

All of these hammers are made by HKR i think


btw. pliers....interesting "Tanos" pliers.... looks like an NWS copy..... ...Made in....?

Thank you for hammer info Monte.
Tanos tools. Making it could be other than China?
Not bad if you also see this. NWS remark to Ronix!!

<img border=0 src="http://matchbox.persiangig.com/Ronix1.jpg">

 

[maico]

Monte, I suppose it's tradition really. Leather and plastic faces can do the same thing, but leather has been used for hundreds of years on furniture etc.

Close attention should be paid to the stated head weight when buying Thor hammers with leather/copper faces mail order. The steel head bodies are heavier than they look. Even the No.2 is quite chunky.

Here's a video filmed at the Estwing factory.The leather handle construction is interesting and much thicker than many realize.

Although not 'old world', but Colonialist new World and verboten in this thread, here's my 15 Oz

 

[north]

*snip*
I just find it.from 1960s. Hope you like it.

*snip*
Sorry for off topic.

Now you're just making fun of us aren't you? Evil bazted!









Sweet find. (Could you resize the pictures though?)

Edit: verboten or not, that is one good looking hammer.

 

[HCNDM]

A copper hammer is on the wishlist Is the rawhide more comparable to plastic or rubber...or... ?



All of these hammers are made by HKR i think



All of these hammers are made by HKR i think

btw. pliers....interesting "Tanos" pliers.... looks like an NWS copy..... ...Made in....?

Hi Monte,

I find leather to be softer than most synthetic versions. Makes very little difference on most materials I work with except silver and gold when making jewelry.

Plastic hammers tend to mar or scratch polished jewelry more than leather. For instance when rounding a ring on a mandrel.
Especially if the hammer surface has scratches or bits missing.

Leather / rawhide seams to do less damage.

It does pickup swarf and other bits of debris like metal filings which embed themselves in the head and then scratch your work. Always careful where to put the thing down.

The larger rawhide hammers you can extend the life a little when the mushroom by takin a bit off with a hacksaw. That however changes the balance and weight.

I guess at the end of the day it's much of a muchness between rawhide and synthetic.

I use rawhide for finework where even small scratches are a no, and various synthetic and rubber hammers for the rest.

I have yet to try a copper hammer. The only place I could think of using one is body work I guess? Not very good at body work so if I can't do it with a block and planishing hammer I tend to leave it to a pro.

 

[maico]

Some images trawled from the interweb: Vintage Thor. At one time there must of been tens of thousands of copper mallets in the boot of cars to knock off the star wheel nuts.

Leather

Copper

Current rawhide

Splithead rawhide. You can't really replace the copper faces on the traditional models without a struggle. These are easier.

 

[dutchgray]

Cwalter
That Wright set is wonderful, the Euro stuff you have been posting recently is amazing too and I would love to own one of those Heyco sets but that Wright stuff is something else.

 

[Laro13]

I work part-time at a thrift-store/charity-shop workshop and there is never any budget for tools.

Recently we have gotten a grant specially for tools.
Its not a lot and its for a lot of people, so it has to go a long way.

I think it will be mostly screwdrivers and pliers. Has anyone a good tip on cheap/reasonable quality Brands?

I was thinking about Wurth as they have a lot of re-branded tools (Knipex pliers), but I have no idea about cost.

Any tips are welcome.

Thanks!

Jasper

 

[Cwalter]

Now you're just making fun of us aren't you? Evil bazted!









Sweet find. (Could you resize the pictures though?)

Edit: verboten or not, that is one good looking hammer.

Nooo really, I could not find Microsoft stocks. Instead I got a toolbox.

Cwalter
That Wright set is wonderful, the Euro stuff you have been posting recently is amazing too and I would love to own one of those Heyco sets but that Wright stuff is something else.

Yes the Heyco set 3line logo is great and the Wright toolbox is wondeful.
But you must buy both. Why? Because Heyco is metric and Wright is SAE

Is written on the label Wright toolbox : 1 1/3 milion test pulls and still like new Is the ratchet really is so durable?

Resize pics :

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[decaf]

@Laro: Bauhaus wisent screwdrivers are now made by Wera. Good price on them....

 

[HCNDM]

I work part-time at a thrift-store/charity-shop workshop and there is never any budget for tools.



Recently we have gotten a grant specially for tools.

Its not a lot and its for a lot of people, so it has to go a long way.



I think it will be mostly screwdrivers and pliers. Has anyone a good tip on cheap/reasonable quality Brands?



I was thinking about Wurth as they have a lot of re-branded tools (Knipex pliers), but I have no idea about cost.



Any tips are welcome.



Thanks!



Jasper

Get wera screwdrivers from tbs aachen. A brand for b prices they are On special.

Check the specials sections On tbs. the much lower cost of tools will quickly offset the shipping from de.

Pliers get knippex or rebranded. They Will cost a bit more but last forever.

If you don't need sockets or wrenches 100 euros goes a long way.

I have had reasonable luck with bruder mannesmann as a B brand for beater tools. Cheapish and most including the pliers have lasted, not the finest engineered tools.

Bahco still surpises quality wise but also sometimes dissapoints. Gamma and praxis often run specials. Go feel before you buy can't go wrong that ways.

Bahco does great adjustable spanners. For thrift store assembly a few of these will go a long way without breaking the bank.

 

[Laro13]

@Laro: Bauhaus wisent screwdrivers are now made by Wera. Good price on them....

Sadly we haven't got Bauhaus locally

Get wera screwdrivers from tbs aachen. A brand for b prices they are On special.

Check the specials sections On tbs. the much lower cost of tools will quickly offset the shipping from de.

Pliers get knippex or rebranded. They Will cost a bit more but last forever.

If you don't need sockets or wrenches 100 euros goes a long way.


I have had reasonable luck with bruder mannesmann as a B brand for beater tools. Cheapish and most including the pliers have lasted, not the finest engineered tools.

Bahco still surpises quality wise but also sometimes dissapoints. Gamma and praxis often run specials. Go feel before you buy can't go wrong that ways.

Bahco does great adjustable spanners. For thrift store assembly a few of these will go a long way without breaking the bank.

Thanks! I was also thinking about TBS, but I don't think they want to buy "International"
They prefer to buy everything from one shop.

 

[hautpot]

Where can I order a Tanos 80101821 in the USA?

 

[HCNDM]

Sadly we haven't got Bauhaus locally









Thanks! I was also thinking about TBS, but I don't think they want to buy "International"

They prefer to buy everything from one shop.

That makes it a little more difficult.

Toolstation.nl has a lot of bahco Stanley and a few top brand stuff. Stay away from the silver line stuff. It's hit and miss ranging from ok to very poor.

Conrad.nl has almost the full bruder mannesmann line as well as top tear German tools. Wera screwdrivers are a little more expensive but considering shipping will be free this might negate the difference. The top tier stuff is pretty expensive at Conrad.nl

That leaves gamma praxis and karwei. If you have a hornbach nearby then that's worth checking out. There aren't many in holland. Keep in mind you'll be burning fuel.

My guess go with Conrad

Get these on special

https://www.conrad.nl/nl/hazet-810s...plat-kruiskop-phillips-werkplaats-801418.html

https://www.conrad.nl/nl/tangenset-10-delig-brueder-mannesmann-1024-10-812557.html

The pliers are not tier but they should last


https://www.conrad.nl/nl/verstelbare-steeksleutel-facom-113a8c-1299553.html

Recoil less hammer vital for disassemble and reassembly with less damage

https://www.conrad.nl/nl/wera-terugslagvrije-hamer-cellidor-230-g05000005001-824609.html

 

[Superbec]

hope it survives minime

 

[Laro13]

That makes it a little more difficult.

Toolstation.nl has a lot of bahco Stanley and a few top brand stuff. Stay away from the silver line stuff. It's hit and miss ranging from ok to very poor.

Conrad.nl has almost the full bruder mannesmann line as well as top tear German tools. Wera screwdrivers are a little more expensive but considering shipping will be free this might negate the difference. The top tier stuff is pretty expensive at Conrad.nl

That leaves gamma praxis and karwei. If you have a hornbach nearby then that's worth checking out. There aren't many in holland. Keep in mind you'll be burning fuel.

My guess go with Conrad

Get these on special

https://www.conrad.nl/nl/hazet-810s...plat-kruiskop-phillips-werkplaats-801418.html

https://www.conrad.nl/nl/tangenset-10-delig-brueder-mannesmann-1024-10-812557.html

The pliers are not tier but they should last


https://www.conrad.nl/nl/verstelbare-steeksleutel-facom-113a8c-1299553.html

Recoil less hammer vital for disassemble and reassembly with less damage

https://www.conrad.nl/nl/wera-terugslagvrije-hamer-cellidor-230-g05000005001-824609.html

If I click on your links, I go to tradetracker.co*

 

[HCNDM]

If I click on your links, I go to tradetracker.co*

Weird... Maybe because i posted throughout the iPhone tapatalk app.

Just go to Conrad.nl and use the Search for the items in the links...

Eg.

Hazet 6 delig schroevendraaier set

 

[Laro13]

Weird... Maybe because i posted throughout the iPhone tapatalk app.

Just go to Conrad.nl and use the Search for the items in the links...

Eg.

Hazet 6 delig schroevendraaier set

Those Hazet screwdrivers look cheap.

 

[Superbec]

Those Hazet screwdrivers look cheap.

better get some snot-on then....

 

[HCNDM]

Those Hazet screwdrivers look cheap.

They are marked down quite a bit. Does Hazet still make their own or are the Witte?

I have little daily use experience with Hazet. Largely due to the premium price and always chickening out and getting cheaper. Odd piece here and there or working with a friend who is a mechanic and has more.

That said the experience I have has been great. Really nice tools so I doubt these would be any less than that.

 

[Monte]

Thank you for hammer info Monte.
Tanos tools. Making it could be other than China?
Not bad if you also see this. NWS remark to Ronix!!

..and another NWS rebrand... Thanks !

Monte, I suppose it's tradition really. Leather and plastic faces can do the same thing, but leather has been used for hundreds of years on furniture etc.

Close attention should be paid to the stated head weight when buying Thor hammers with leather/copper faces mail order. The steel head bodies are heavier than they look. Even the No.2 is quite chunky.

i wonder how the lifetime of a natural material like leather compared to plastic is

btw. nice Estwing hammer !

Hi Monte,
I find leather to be softer than most synthetic versions. Makes very little difference on most materials I work with except silver and gold when making jewelry.

So it depends on application which one to take it seems. So for general metalworking and automotive use plastic hammers will be ok unless i start goldsmithing

Thanks! I was also thinking about TBS, but I don't think they want to buy "International"
They prefer to buy everything from one shop.

some cheap Stahlwille drivers:
http://www.autogereedschap.com/a-24...stahlwille-drall-schroevendraaierset-5-delig/

http://www.stahlshop.nl/a-14192320/schroevendraaiers/stahlwille-4688-drall-schroevendraaierset/

pliers:
http://www.bikescooterparts.com/product.php?id_product=4562
http://www.hevu.nl/index.php/webshop/naar-de-shop/product/view/60/96

(for example)

They are marked down quite a bit. Does Hazet still make their own or are the Witte?

they´re from Slovenia

 

[jipps]

I work part-time at a thrift-store/charity-shop workshop and there is never any budget for tools.

Recently we have gotten a grant specially for tools.
Its not a lot and its for a lot of people, so it has to go a long way.

I think it will be mostly screwdrivers and pliers. Has anyone a good tip on cheap/reasonable quality Brands?

I was thinking about Wurth as they have a lot of re-branded tools (Knipex pliers), but I have no idea about cost.

Any tips are welcome.

Thanks!

Jasper

I'd say Bahco all the way - SO group, so good quality, reasonable innovation (maybe 1-2 gens behind state of the art) etc. Get a couple of 1/4" hex sets, hacksaw, shifting spanner - Bahco is solid on all of these - and take it from there...

 

[superautobacs]

They are marked down quite a bit. Does Hazet still make their own or are the Witte?

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