Tools from the old world
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superautobacs
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Thanks.
I've seen them at my local woodworking store.
The company is based in the UK. website: http://www.secoeng.co.uk/consumables/seco-sticks
I've seen them at my local woodworking store.
The company is based in the UK. website: http://www.secoeng.co.uk/consumables/seco-sticks
Can you guys recommend me a 1-2 ton portable hydraulic jack that can be used for changing flat tires on a regular car when on the road?
I need a brand name that can be easily purchased in the EU; those Chinese hydraulic jacks found in auto parts stores and supermarkets are pure junk!
I need a brand name that can be easily purchased in the EU; those Chinese hydraulic jacks found in auto parts stores and supermarkets are pure junk!
I would take a long look at Compac: http://www.compac.dk/en/
Although I'm not entirely sure everything is still made in Denmark. It used to be.
Qualitytools
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They Look to be made by AC Hydraulic (theirs is blue), Check AC Hydraulic as their jacks sit lower to get under low cars and go up higher. Great quality as I have their DK20Q and it's Awesome!
Gühring
could be the same thoughSometimes there happen wonders............the Coo has changed positively !
the ones mentioned or Mega www.mega.es
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Hi Monte,
Do you have any info or website about the Bravo brand? I could not find about it. One of the drivers was tested under extreme conditions. They are very rigid alloy steel is!
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Thank you.
Do you have any info or website about the Bravo brand? I could not find about it. One of the drivers was tested under extreme conditions. They are very rigid alloy steel is!
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Thank you.
The "Bravo" brand was owned by a company called "Gebr. Schreiber". The brand name was deleted in 2001.Hi Monte,
Do you have any info or website about the Bravo brand? I could not find about it. One of the drivers was tested under extreme conditions. They are very rigid alloy steel is!
Wolf D-handle
can be used with the lawn edge iron/edging tool for example:
Some pliers i have for sale. If interested PM me:
(10 € each, all new. Proto has some heavy rust on both sides, Zbirovia some light rust)
E-Top (NWS), NWS, Gedore, Gedore
http://up.picr.de/25890275lx.jpg
Lux (NWS), NWS, Bertool (VBW/Stahlwille), Knipex
http://up.picr.de/25890276hf.jpg
Witte, York (czechoslovakia), Zbirovia (czechoslovakia), Proto/Ingersoll Rand
http://up.picr.de/25890278fk.jpg
The "Bravo" brand was owned by a company called "Gebr. Schreiber". The brand name was deleted in 2001.
Hi Monte,
How do you find the garden tools compared to Idealspaten?
Do you know who makes the electronik cutters for Stahlwille and how they compare lets say with Schmitz, Swanstrom?
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Thank you!
Ideal tools are the classic garden tools with wooden handle and metal "head". The choice (usually) for pros but also many DIY users. The Wolf (+ Gardena) tools are a good choice (imho) for the DIY user because you only need very little space for storage and the individual heads are (mostly) only around 10 bucks each. I do some garden work for neigbours so i throw the heads in a bucket and take a handle with me so i´m equipped without hauling dozens of tools (with handle) around. For professional use: I don´t know if the connection head/handle will last "forever". Wolf vs. Gardena: I liked the Wolf push button disconnect better than the screw type. Coo: Wolf mostly Germany, Gardena: Czech Rep. (Metal parts), Germany (Plastic parts + shears etc.), Ideal: spades Germany, rest mostly unlabeled.
If i assume that Stahlwille pliers are supplied by VBW and VBW electronic pliers look like this
while Schmitz pliers look like this........maybe they just have the same handle supplier... Or Stahlwille has a different electronic pliers supplier because their handles are different.... ? I don´t know...
Swanstrom is not really available here... Schmitz, Erem, Lindström, Wiha, Bernstein etc. are the common brands over here.
Knipex shears
Some screwdriver sets i have for sale:
http://up.picr.de/25902127jk.jpg
Hi-Q Tools (Wera) €16.-
http://up.picr.de/25902135br.jpg
Wisent (Wiha) €25.-
http://up.picr.de/25902181qj.jpg
Bertool (Witte) € 30.-
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They look like rebranded Schmitz to me (they make both box & lap joint models).
Schmitz's cutters are excellent, as are their pliers (teeth haven't flattened out, unlike others).
Swanstrom are excellent cutters as well, but by the time you import them into the UK, they'd be overpriced. Same with Tronex, which have the same type of construction & grips (long handles w/ foam).
You'd be best off to buy Schmitz IMHO, as they're less expensive than the other brands, and the quality & performance are excellent.
FWIW, I own cutters from Schmitz (CK Tools label), Erem, Swanstrom, Lindstrom, Tronex (rebranded as Excelta), and Belzer. Tronex are my absolute favorites due to the grips (I'm 6'-4"); Swanstrom's basic construction is identical, and on par with Tronex.
The only ones I'm not terribly fond of, are my Lindstroms as they take more force to use for a given wire size (feel like the grips are going to break off given the amount of flex in them). The rest cut like a hot knife through butter.
So it came down to grip fit for me. The Erem's I have are their ergonomic versions, and they slip a bit too much for my liking; they're otherwise excellent (assuming you can get over the sticker shock). The older, foam grips would have been a better choice in my case.
I don't own a lot of Schmitz cutters, as I wasn't aware of the actual manufacturer of CK Tools or Bernstein when I purchased the bulk of my cutters. And the rebrands are double the price or more on average here, so the value wasn't there via that route.
My pliers OTOH, are mostly Schmitz.
As an aside, I prefer a semi-flush hone on the blades (leaves a very small spike). They cut smoother than full bevel (less hand force required), yet have the same wire cutting capacity in the vast majority of cases, and a similar lifespan as well.
Full-flush OTOH are very delicate and damage too easily (= shorter lifespan), nor do they go as large on wire sizes for the same size of cutter otherwise (grip length & head size).Seems VBW is also rebranding Schmitz.If i assume that Stahlwille pliers are supplied by VBW and VBW electronic pliers look like this
while Schmitz pliers look like this........maybe they just have the same handle supplier... Or Stahlwille has a different electronic pliers supplier because their handles are different.... ? I don´t know...
Swanstrom is not really available here... Schmitz, Erem, Lindström, Wiha, Bernstein etc. are the common brands over here.
FWIW, Schmitz does a lot of rebranding (main part of their business).
Nanofrog,They look like rebranded Schmitz to me (they make both box & lap joint models).
Schmitz's cutters are excellent, as are their pliers (teeth haven't flattened out, unlike others).
Swanstrom are excellent cutters as well, but by the time you import them into the UK, they'd be overpriced. Same with Tronex, which have the same type of construction & grips (long handles w/ foam).
You'd be best off to buy Schmitz IMHO, as they're less expensive than the other brands, and the quality & performance are excellent.
FWIW, I own cutters from Schmitz (CK Tools label), Erem, Swanstrom, Lindstrom, Tronex (rebranded as Excelta), and Belzer. Tronex are my absolute favorites due to the grips (I'm 6'-4"); Swanstrom's basic construction is identical, and on par with Tronex.
The only ones I'm not terribly fond of, are my Lindstroms as they take more force to use for a given wire size (feel like the grips are going to break off given the amount of flex in them). The rest cut like a hot knife through butter. [emoji106]
So it came down to grip fit for me. The Erem's I have are their ergonomic versions, and they slip a bit too much for my liking; they're otherwise excellent (assuming you can get over the sticker shock). The older, foam grips would have been a better choice in my case.
I don't own a lot of Schmitz cutters, as I wasn't aware of the actual manufacturer of CK Tools or Bernstein when I purchased the bulk of my cutters. And the rebrands are double the price or more on average here, so the value wasn't there via that route.
My pliers OTOH, are mostly Schmitz.
As an aside, I prefer a semi-flush hone on the blades (leaves a very small spike). They cut smoother than full bevel (less hand force required), yet have the same wire cutting capacity in the vast majority of cases, and a similar lifespan as well. [emoji106] Full-flush OTOH are very delicate and damage too easily (= shorter lifespan), nor do they go as large on wire sizes for the same size of cutter otherwise (grip length & head size).
Seems VBW is also rebranding Schmitz.
FWIW, Schmitz does a lot of rebranding (main part of their business).
It seems that you know a bit about these pliers[emoji3] [emoji106]
May I ask you if the Lindstrom ones you are referring to are the ones made in Sweden, the box-joint and lately the screw-pin, or the ones made in Spain?
Thank you and have a good day!!!
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Thanks Monte,Ideal tools are the classic garden tools with wooden handle and metal "head". The choice (usually) for pros but also many DIY users. The Wolf (+ Gardena) tools are a good choice (imho) for the DIY user because you only need very little space for storage and the individual heads are (mostly) only around 10 bucks each. I do some garden work for neigbours so i throw the heads in a bucket and take a handle with me so i´m equipped without hauling dozens of tools (with handle) around. For professional use: I don´t know if the connection head/handle will last "forever". Wolf vs. Gardena: I liked the Wolf push button disconnect better than the screw type. Coo: Wolf mostly Germany, Gardena: Czech Rep. (Metal parts), Germany (Plastic parts + shears etc.), Ideal: spades Germany, rest mostly unlabeled.
If i assume that Stahlwille pliers are supplied by VBW and VBW electronic pliers look like this
while Schmitz pliers look like this........maybe they just have the same handle supplier... Or Stahlwille has a different electronic pliers supplier because their handles are different.... ? I don´t know...
Swanstrom is not really available here... Schmitz, Erem, Lindström, Wiha, Bernstein etc. are the common brands over here.
Knipex shears
Some screwdriver sets i have for sale:
http://up.picr.de/25902127jk.jpg
Hi-Q Tools (Wera) €16.-
http://up.picr.de/25902135br.jpg
Wisent (Wiha) €25.-
http://up.picr.de/25902181qj.jpg
Bertool (Witte) € 30.-
http://up.picr.de/25902183yd.jpg
Thanks to you that started this educational thread we have been full of knowledge and empty pockets[emoji16]
BTW the Festool is on the way but more when arrives!
Have a good day
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Sorry I forgot the Larsson made in Sweden ones with box joint construction[emoji4]
What about these?
Thanks again
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COO = Spain, which uses the newer type of lap joint rather than a box joint.
Regarding cutters, a lap joint is fine. For pliers OTOH, a box joint is preferable, as they get stressed on multiple axis.
Larsson no longer exists, so if you find any, they're either used or NOS (bought up by Ideal-Tek).
Ideal-tek's cutters are good as well as I understand it (they make the EX line for Lindstrom), as are their tweezers (they're also the ODM for Lindstrom's tweezers). FWIW, I'm well acquainted with their tweezers.
Do note that Ideal-tek's cutters & pliers don't use box joints, so I'm not sure if it was something Larsson developed but hadn't released, or if it was their own design (if the latter is the case, I can't figure on why they'd want to buy Larsson
).COO = Spain, which uses the newer type of lap joint rather than a box joint.
Regarding cutters, a lap joint is fine. For pliers OTOH, a box joint is preferable, as they get stressed on multiple axis.
Larsson no longer exists, so if you find any, they're either used or NOS (bought up by Ideal-Tek).
Ideal-tek's cutters are good as well as I understand it (they make the EX line for Lindstrom), as are their tweezers (they're also the ODM for Lindstrom's tweezers). FWIW, I'm well acquainted with their tweezers.
Do note that Ideal-tek's cutters & pliers don't use box joints, so I'm not sure if it was something Larsson developed but hadn't released, or if it was their own design (if the latter is the case, I can't figure on why they'd want to buy Larsson
Yeah, I have found some NOS Larsson box-joint design cutter MADE in SWEDEN and wondering if they are good so I can buy them. Some people rate them closely to old Lindstrom.
Thanks again for your time to asnwer!
I own a Dewalt D28886 which is a rebadged Metabo GE 700 . It´s a nice tool with spindle lock so you need only 1 wrench which is convenient. It has constant electronics and all other features. It´s a bit thicker than the Fein and a bit heavier i think (the spindle is made from steel pipe). It´s a nice tool. (btw. mine is for sale
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Momento 3/8" drive SAE impact sockets from 1/4" to 9/16":
www.Momento.se
Hallo Monte,
Where we can buy Momento??
They're very much like the original Swedish made Lindstroms.
So if it's what you need (right jaw shape & cutting edges), and the price is right, grab them before they're gone. Just take care not to drop them on the tips, as you can snap a jaw off that way.
Thanks[emoji3] [emoji106]They're very much like the original Swedish made Lindstroms. [emoji106] So if it's what you need (right jaw shape & cutting edges), and the price is right, grab them before they're gone.
Just take care not to drop them on the tips, as you can snap a jaw off that way.
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Thanks[emoji3] [emoji106]They're very much like the original Swedish made Lindstroms. [emoji106] So if it's what you need (right jaw shape & cutting edges), and the price is right, grab them before they're gone.
Just take care not to drop them on the tips, as you can snap a jaw off that way.
Thanks[emoji3] [emoji106]They're very much like the original Swedish made Lindstroms. [emoji106] So if it's what you need (right jaw shape & cutting edges), and the price is right, grab them before they're gone.
Just take care not to drop them on the tips, as you can snap a jaw off that way.
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i think soSeems VBW is also rebranding Schmitz.
Thanks for joining
Here´s their distributor list: http://www.momento.se/distributors/
can´t find UK though....
Maybe they can help you:
https://www.toolorders.co.uk/momento-impact-sockets?page=1
nice vintage tools
Uvex gloves
Some ratchets i have for sale:
http://up.picr.de/25910945tt.jpg
Hazet 916-1 (1/2") €40.- (slightly used), Hazet 8816-F (3/8") €35.- (new), Dowidat (3/8") €35.-(new), Tone (3/8") €20.- (new)
Qualitytools
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i think so
Thanks for joining
Here´s their distributor list: http://www.momento.se/distributors/
can´t find UK though....
Maybe they can help you:
https://www.toolorders.co.uk/momento-impact-sockets?page=1
nice vintage tools
Uvex gloves
Some ratchets i have for sale:
http://up.picr.de/25910945tt.jpg
Hazet 916-1 (1/2") €40.- (slightly used), Hazet 8816-F (3/8") €35.- (new), Dowidat (3/8") €35.-(new), Tone (3/8") €20.- (new)
Sent you a PM about the ratchets
hi from thailand
bought this screwdriver long time ago from wurth distributor.
there is no 'wurth' pumped on the handle, only 'made in germany'
not sure who made it.
but the bit is from wurth.
very durable, i love it.
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bought this screwdriver long time ago from wurth distributor.
there is no 'wurth' pumped on the handle, only 'made in germany'
not sure who made it.
but the bit is from wurth.
very durable, i love it.
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dutchgray
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I'd bet on that being a Wera handle.
Hello again,They're very much like the original Swedish made Lindstroms. [emoji106] So if it's what you need (right jaw shape & cutting edges), and the price is right, grab them before they're gone.
Just take care not to drop them on the tips, as you can snap a jaw off that way.
Could these cutters be damaged if occasionally cut soft plastic of small thickness like shrinking tubes?
I am thinking if they good for copper/ aluminium they would be ok for plastic?
I am always try and combine the use of tools within limits of course[emoji16]
Thanks!
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You won't damage them doing this, as I do it all the time.
To be safe, figure the thickness to be ~ equal to it's copper capacity in diameter. Where you will need to be careful however, is with tin plated steel leads on jellybean components (resistors, ...), namely from Asian manufacturers, such as Royal Ohm. Wire too, in some cases (copper plated steel). Easy to test with a magnet.
It's not that you absolutely cannot cut steel with precision cutters, you just have to be aware of the rated cutting capacity. For example, you might find a cutter that's rated for 18AWG on copper, but only 28AWG for steel, yet you're component has 20AWG tin plated steel leads. So you'd need a larger cutter that can handle it in such a case.
Where this can be a tad difficult, is not all manufacturers offer capacities of hardwire + copper (many do copper only). But you can go by head size/cutter end dimensions to compare between manufacturers that do and don't offer steel capacity ratings. By doing this, you'll get a feel of what's needed when you encounter steel leads.
Of course, if you're not working in tight quarters, the easiest thing to do is use the biggest pair you've got.
This is where I use my Swanstrom S512E (largest precision cutter I own). And it's still going strong. The ideal alternative, is to buy a pair that has tungsten carbide jaws (inserts that are brazed on or is part of the steel itself). Unfortunately, they're also expensive as hell. Best way to go on this is either eBay for NOS or quality used (i.e. Erem), or Schmitz if you want new in the UK/EU market (Schmitz runs ~ 1/3rd the cost of Erem IME, so ~$65USD v. $200+ IIRC). I intend to do this someday myself, but as it's not critical, it keeps getting put on the back burner.
All of this ^ is to keep you from getting nicks in the cutting edges, as those cannot be fixed. At best, a nick makes them annoying to use, and at worst, they're scrap.
If they're just dull however, good cutters can be resharpened a few times, and it's not expensive either (runs ~$8.00 per pair here). :grin: And not only do most cutter manufacturers offer this service, they'll sharpen any brand.
Extends their usable lifespan even further. 
They still sell grinding discs with the Pferd brand.
superautobacs
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Borantool,
The bit is also from Wera. Their (old) logo is stamped right onto the bit.
Monte,
Those look amazing.
Krokodil
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Nice Monte, how do they compare to say Lowe loppers?
Nice loppers Monte, did not know them.
We use Castellari http://www.castellarisrl.com/products/branch-cutters from Italy, Hickok from USA and ARS http://www.ars-edge.co.jp/world/02products/product_11lopping.html from Japan
Talking about gardening tools, we have a very good quality brand from the Netherlands DeWit https://www.dewit.eu. There are not many toolmanafacturers left here, but they still make some traditional quality tools.
We use Castellari http://www.castellarisrl.com/products/branch-cutters from Italy, Hickok from USA and ARS http://www.ars-edge.co.jp/world/02products/product_11lopping.html from Japan
Talking about gardening tools, we have a very good quality brand from the Netherlands DeWit https://www.dewit.eu. There are not many toolmanafacturers left here, but they still make some traditional quality tools.
Very good loppers
In Croatia, the most common choice for loppers are Bahco, Kuker and Lowe.
Berger loppers how they compare with Wolf Garten?
A while back I made provisions for buying an old vise from someone on the Norwegian equivalent of Craigslist. When getting there to pick it up he had "some" other things of interest as well.
Long story short I ended up buying quite a lot but left even more behind. Before leaving I made him promise to me that he would not throw the rest away but rather let me know and see if we could come to some sort of agreement over the rest.
We did, and I ended up with a second lot of tools. This is how the back of my car looked like:
Here's a look at a few of the boxes while I was sorting:
Usually I don't have time to post my finds, I usually throw in a picture or two of things of interest like the Seeger lock ring pliers (who incidentally was in the first lot from the same place). This time I thought I would give you all a look at the lot of various spanners:
Now out of all of those spanners only one I deemed to be of inferior quality and that was the Acesa from Spain. Coarse looking, coarse feeling and measuring the openings didn't exactly give me that quality feeling.
The USSR one on top was a first, and not very high quality that either, but the openings where within reason. This one does have a logo but no name, probably been part of a toolkit either for an agricultural machine or a car. If anyone knows the manufacturer I would be very glad to know! May keep that one just because I don't have any others.
The 17mm. Stahlwille open box 13 is the only one who got a space on the wall:
And here's a look at one size from the above wall to give you an idea:
If anyone knows anything in particular about the Gedore no.2 too, I would be interested. That must be pretty old?
Long story short I ended up buying quite a lot but left even more behind. Before leaving I made him promise to me that he would not throw the rest away but rather let me know and see if we could come to some sort of agreement over the rest.
We did, and I ended up with a second lot of tools. This is how the back of my car looked like:
Here's a look at a few of the boxes while I was sorting:
Usually I don't have time to post my finds, I usually throw in a picture or two of things of interest like the Seeger lock ring pliers (who incidentally was in the first lot from the same place). This time I thought I would give you all a look at the lot of various spanners:
Now out of all of those spanners only one I deemed to be of inferior quality and that was the Acesa from Spain. Coarse looking, coarse feeling and measuring the openings didn't exactly give me that quality feeling.
The USSR one on top was a first, and not very high quality that either, but the openings where within reason. This one does have a logo but no name, probably been part of a toolkit either for an agricultural machine or a car. If anyone knows the manufacturer I would be very glad to know! May keep that one just because I don't have any others.
The 17mm. Stahlwille open box 13 is the only one who got a space on the wall:
And here's a look at one size from the above wall to give you an idea:
If anyone knows anything in particular about the Gedore no.2 too, I would be interested. That must be pretty old?
