Tools from the old world

[Matt XYZ]

Thanks ! me too !
And if you compare a 1" Craftsman with a 1" Rahsol ?...

I wish I could have but the 15/16th was my largest Craftsman wrench. It was still heavier than the larger Rahsol. Is the Rahsol a good wrench?

 

[sljeme345]

Yeah, they would go together pretty well

Mine is 52, and I'm considering buying a few cantilever toolboxes and putting padlocks on them He's not that old, but his personality and behavior is story for itself When I told him that this is not 5€ tool, and how much it costs, he went voiceless Probably all tools he bought in his life are worth less that this pair of cutters, and they arent that expensive

To straighten out the mood, birthday present for my brother-in-law



Well, its not made in Europe, but still far better than China

Very nice Dremel set

NOS Belzer socket set 1/4 No. 6721 NM

 

[pozidriv]

^nice set!!

Not much has changed it seems:

 

[dutchgray]

Nos Belzer, nice to see, wish I could find some of that here, even used is thin on the ground.

 

[Precivilization]

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That is super nice! looks so much better than the Bahco.

 

[superautobacs]

I'd take that Belzer over the Bahco, no question.
Such prestine condition!

its kinda expensive , do you have a good quality breaker bar ? id spend my money on a good bar first , maybe 3/4 " drive if you feel its stupidly tight

Don't waste your money and time using that hand impact. Those are meant for engine bay work where space is limited.
At minimum, get a long 1/2" breaker bar. Better yet is a 3/4" drive breaker, but depending on your budget, a 3/4" drive T-handle with a pipe might be more economical.

 

[Tomasz_W-wa]

My last shopping.

FACOM (Bag BS.TLB)








WERA (160i, 162i, 167i, 352, 2035)










HAZET (854, 197-3, 801K-55, 803-PH2, 163-31L, 163-186L, 1/2 163-30L)





(Left 854, right 854X HINOX)






















Sorry for the background of the photos.

 

[jessysirazvan]

I'd take that Belzer over the Bahco, no question.
Such prestine condition!






Don't waste your money and time using that hand impact. Those are meant for engine bay work where space is limited.
At minimum, get a long 1/2" breaker bar. Better yet is a 3/4" drive breaker, but depending on your budget, a 3/4" drive T-handle with a pipe might be more economical.

Thanks man i will buy this breaker bar 3/4 with a impact socket 3/4 --30mm

https://www.amazon.it/gp/aw/d/B00NBST57W/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A11IL2PNWYJU7H

 

[Monte]

I wish I could have but the 15/16th was my largest Craftsman wrench. It was still heavier than the larger Rahsol. Is the Rahsol a good wrench?

afaik the Gedore/Rahsol wrenches were the same except the Rahsol wrenches had a lesser finish.

NOS Belzer socket set 1/4 No. 6721 NM

nice set !!!

Not much has changed it seems:

except....everything

My last shopping.

what a haul !!














Festool ETS 125 REQ-Plus 125mm orbital sander

 

[sljeme345]

^nice set!!

Not much has changed it seems:

Nos Belzer, nice to see, wish I could find some of that here, even used is thin on the ground.

That is super nice! looks so much better than the Bahco.

I'd take that Belzer over the Bahco, no question.
Such prestine condition!




Don't waste your money and time using that hand impact. Those are meant for engine bay work where space is limited.
At minimum, get a long 1/2" breaker bar. Better yet is a 3/4" drive breaker, but depending on your budget, a 3/4" drive T-handle with a pipe might be more economical.

afaik the Gedore/Rahsol wrenches were the same except the Rahsol wrenches had a lesser finish.
nice set !!!
except....everything
what a haul !!


Festool ETS 125 REQ-Plus 125mm orbital sander

Thnaks guys, but I'm still looking Belzer 3/8" socket set

Very good orbital sander Monte

 

[losvre]

Slim (2mm) open ended wrenches for bikes and not only. Inexpensive and still made in England?


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[HCNDM]

Monte... that festool orbital is the icing on the cake enjoy!


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[Precivilization]

My last shopping

Lots of goodies Congrats

Thanks Monte, now you made me hate my Makita Sander that I just got

 

[Dave455]

What are some brands known for quality/innovative/ergonomic. etc basic carpentry hand tool brands?

Hammers,squares, pry bars, measuring tools,utility knives,nail pullers etc.

Need to buy some of the basics soon. I have fascination for European/Japanese mechanic/hand tools so thought I would check here before buying the typical box store stuff here in the USA.

Thanks.

There was once a time you could buy all that from one manufacturer (Stanley for example) and get top quality! Alas, not now! The quality is still there, but you have to buy from mostly specialist makers!

Personally, I'd avoid 'innovative'! Most woodworking tools were perfected hundreds of years ago and the only 'innovations' are excuses to give us cheaper materials and inferior quality! (Veritas 'custom' planes, and suchlike, are the exception)!

So, here we go, noting you said 'basic' not 'top end' -

Hammer - to be honest, unless you really must have, say, an English pattern, buy a Vaughan and be done with it! Don't need to get a 24 oz monster, but 8, 12 or 16 will probably be perfect!

Square - get a wood/metal carpenters square from Joseph Marples. Shouldn't be costly, even shipped to U.S.

Pry Bar - see above re Vaughan!

Measuring Tools - you have a square so just add a tape. Pretty much got to be a Fisco - British made and inexpensive. They make a lot of tapes for other brands too. I like a metal rule when woodworking, say about 2 feet long. Mine is lightweight and Japanese (Fisher?) but the U.S. Products Engineering are similar.

Utility Knife - if you must, but be aware that the blades are really crappy on most, so upgrade these. I can buy 'Sheffield Made' which are a huge improvement, you can probably source U.S. made somewhere! Better still, get a craft knife from Swann Morton. They are are surgical instrument maker and their stuff is way better than the options. I'm currently using their 'Supatool' and have junked everything else!

Nail Puller - use your Vaughan claw hammer and pry bar!

 

[Dave455]

I'd take that Belzer over the Bahco, no question.
Such prestine condition!
t.

God yes! What a find!

Belzer was one of my Dad's favourite makers!

Think they were one of the first to offer Chrome plated pliers in the U.K. Dad reckoned the Chrome plating was 'first class'! Guess it was - it's still good after 40 + years!

Personally, I reckon that their screwdriver handles are about the best ever made for most purposes! Similar in size and style to the old Snap On 'Tenite' handles!

PB Swiss are probably offering comparable quality screwdrivers, but don't think anybody offers pliers as good as Belzer now!

 

[losvre]

Hello all,

Anyone knows how the Gedore 2087 A T-bar quick release works, Pic 1? I cannot figure out but I hope it is not the same as their extensions, Pic 2.

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[Monte]

What are some brands known for quality/innovative/ergonomic. etc basic carpentry hand tool brands?

Hammers,squares, pry bars, measuring tools,utility knives,nail pullers etc.

Need to buy some of the basics soon. I have fascination for European/Japanese mechanic/hand tools so thought I would check here before buying the typical box store stuff here in the USA.

Thanks.

pry bars from Tove for example. Hammers from Picard, utility knives from Mora, general woodworking tools: Narex.

Very good orbital sander Monte

Thanks !

Monte... that festool orbital is the icing on the cake enjoy!

Thanks ! I will !

Thanks Monte, now you made me hate my Makita Sander that I just got

Don´t worry ! I guess you can exchange your Makita with a Festool
If you need a cordless sander i guess Makita is the way to go !













News from Metabo:
new mixers, 3 speed drill, orbital sanders, 180mm angle grinder, 7AH LiHD batteries, multi tool etc.:
https://www.metabo.com/t3/fileadmin/metabo/de/070_aktuell/03_specials/specials-2-2017-DE_klein.pdf

"new" Metabo orbital sanders:
greetings to finland
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[losvre]

News from Metabo:
new mixers, 3 speed drill, orbital sanders, 180mm angle grinder, 7AH LiHD batteries, multi tool etc.:
https://www.metabo.com/t3/fileadmin/metabo/de/070_aktuell/03_specials/specials-2-2017-DE_klein.pdf

"new" Metabo orbital sanders:
greetings to finland
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/aKIA45hOLw0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Are these made in Germany?

Do you think Metabo new sander is re-branded Mirka?

How do you you find the Festool 125? I have the 150 ETS and it is very good. However I think they are suited to carpentry and dry paint. I used on our boat trying to remove the primer and I could stall the motor. Mind that the boat is wooden and quite wet even after days on the yard.

 

[Monte]

Are these made in Germany?

Do you think Metabo new sander is re-branded Mirka?

How do you you find the Festool 125? I have the 150 ETS and it is very good. However I think they are suited to carpentry and dry paint. I used on our boat trying to remove the primer and I could stall the motor. Mind that the boat is wooden and quite wet even after days on the yard.

I guess they´re rebadged Mirka Deros sanders made in Finland.
I like my ETS 125 a lot. It runs very smooth, it´s ergonomic, it´s not too loud, it doesn´t vibrate much, it has a nice on/off switch, good built quality etc... The ETS 150 is on the wish list... I´m not sure if a ETS is the right tool for your task, i guess the wood might be uneven/swollen as well as the paint so i think a forced orbital sander (a.k.a. Rotex) might be better suited... (or maybe even a belt sander or a Flex Supraflex or Fein ROT 14-200 E ...). I think the ETS orbital sanders (as well as others) are for "normal" tasks like finishing wood/paint/bondo before coating etc. and not for rough work.












New Fein cordless drills + impacts:
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Metabo cordless 7" angle grinder:
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/9BoMBrUS9H4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

 

[losvre]

Thanks Monte

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[losvre]

Anyone owns the Metabo sb18ltx brushless?

Could you please confirm that in drill mode you cannot hold it from turning by your hand?

I once tried a couple of them in a fair and I could just stall them by hand. Problem is I cannot recall the setting.

Thank you



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[jessysirazvan]

Some of you guys know if Carolus made in Germany torque wrench is made by Gedore?Is the same wrench?
I need one 60-300nm

https://www.amazon.it/gp/aw/d/B007ML54OM/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A11IL2PNWYJU7H

 

[losvre]

Some of you guys know if Carolus made in Germany torque wrench is made by Gedore?Is the same wrench?
I need one 60-300nm

https://www.amazon.it/gp/aw/d/B007ML54OM/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A11IL2PNWYJU7H

I believe yes

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[jessysirazvan]

I believe yes

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Thanks.
I think this Carolus (60nm-300nm) is much better than Proxxon Micro Click 320 (50nm-320nm) in the same price 120€,probably the best at this price.

 

[PureLeaf]

Anyone owns the Metabo sb18ltx brushless?

Could you please confirm that in drill mode you cannot hold it from turning by your hand?

I once tried a couple of them in a fair and I could just stall them by hand. Problem is I cannot recall the setting.

Thank you



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Are you asking how to make it put out in max power mode? Hit the red button on the top/back. And yes I can make it stall out.

 

[losvre]

Are you asking how to make it put out in max power mode? Hit the red button on the top/back. And yes I can make it stall out.

Hi pureleaf,

Depends on the model may or may not have the button on the top.

In any case, I need someone who owns a brushless Metabo LTX to confirm that when in drilling mode (fill torque) the the drilled cannot be stopped from running by holding it down from the chuck.

Thanks

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[losvre]

Sorry PureLeaf, I did not read your email well.

It seems that all Brushless drills have this "feature" which for me it is not a plus.

I will probably buy the previous model with the brushes.

Thank you

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[svchost]

Hello all,

Anyone knows how the Gedore 2087 A T-bar quick release works, Pic 1? I cannot figure out but I hope it is not the same as their extensions, Pic 2.

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The horizontal handle presses on the lever in the connecting part, which does not allow to be pushed through the fixing ball in the square. This fixes the tool attached to the square and does not allow it to be disconnected. In a horizontal handle, only in one place (with an edge) there is a notch, if it coincides with the lever of the connecting part, the pressure on the lever stops and the fixing ball can be recessed in a square, in this position the attached parts can be removed from the square.

 

[drivesitfar]

ALL: thanks for showing us what we are all missing in the USA cause a lot of these we might not ever see or be able to buy without a truck load of cash.

i picked these up a while back that i'm not exactly sure what they are, but they are in great shape and MADE IN GERMANY so thought if MONTE didn't know maybe one of you might. i'm pretty sure these are holders, but not exactly sure what they are meant to hold. Any ideas and are they vintage cause they appear to be almost new condition?

i've picked up quite a few tools from your side of the world over the years and most if not all have been very good quality. i love my Fein 250 quick change and own two of them, but i heard the newer ones are quieter. are they?

cheers and hope you are all having a great weekend

 

[losvre]

The horizontal handle presses on the lever in the connecting part, which does not allow to be pushed through the fixing ball in the square. This fixes the tool attached to the square and does not allow it to be disconnected. In a horizontal handle, only in one place (with an edge) there is a notch, if it coincides with the lever of the connecting part, the pressure on the lever stops and the fixing ball can be recessed in a square, in this position the attached parts can be removed from the square.

Nice, thank you!

Btw, do you know if the horizontal bar is normal thickness of about 8 mm because I have the Stahlwille which is 6 mm and cannot handle it, it is tiny. [emoji106]

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[chrissalas1]

Anyone owns the Metabo sb18ltx brushless?

Could you please confirm that in drill mode you cannot hold it from turning by your hand?

I once tried a couple of them in a fair and I could just stall them by hand. Problem is I cannot recall the setting.

Thank you



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Losvre

I own the new metabo sb18ltx bl q i.
In drilling mode at speed 1 it has 120nm torque,at speed 2 it has 60nm.
I tried to stop it at speed 1(120nm) but had no chance!!!!Maybe i am not strong enough[emoji123]

 

[Bogdan M.]

 

[losvre]

Losvre

I own the new metabo sb18ltx bl q i.
In drilling mode at speed 1 it has 120nm torque,at speed 2 it has 60nm.
I tried to stop it at speed 1(120nm) but had no chance!!!!Maybe i am not strong enough[emoji123]

Many thanks Chrissalas!

Did you tried from stopped or whilst it was running? What about in 2nd gear? I own the old model with max 1400 rpm and I am looking to get a faster one.

It is not about being strong but rather a feature to "protect" the drill.

I am between the Metabo and the Fein but I am on Metabo batteries already and there is the Metabo LTX-3 now.

Monte, does your Fein has any "protection" like this?

Thanks guys

 

[chrissalas1]

Many thanks Chrissalas!

Did you tried from stopped or whilst it was running? What about in 2nd gear? I own the old model with max 1400 rpm and I am looking to get a faster one.

It is not about being strong but rather a feature to "protect" the drill.

I am between the Metabo and the Fein but I am on Metabo batteries already and there is the Metabo LTX-3 now.

Monte, does your Fein has any "protection" like this?

Thanks guys

I will try tomorrow and i will tell you.I am very happy with the metabo but either the fein or the metabo would be excellent choice!!!!!

 

[Lofthouse]

New Knipex

 

[erswill]

ALL: thanks for showing us what we are all missing in the USA cause a lot of these we might not ever see or be able to buy without a truck load of cash.

i picked these up a while back that i'm not exactly sure what they are, but they are in great shape and MADE IN GERMANY so thought if MONTE didn't know maybe one of you might. i'm pretty sure these are holders, but not exactly sure what they are meant to hold. Any ideas and are they vintage cause they appear to be almost new condition?

i've picked up quite a few tools from your side of the world over the years and most if not all have been very good quality. i love my Fein 250 quick change and own two of them, but i heard the newer ones are quieter. are they?

cheers and hope you are all having a great weekend

These tools are locking tweezer, hex screw or nut holder and slotted head screw holder (picture 2 from top to bottom. These are common tools used in the electronic industry during the 60's & 70's.
I have the same set for over 40 years & condition is still immaculate. Never used it after the discovery of prestik putty.

 

[Snakevz]

Very nice Dremel set

NOS Belzer socket set 1/4 No. 6721 NM

Thanks!

Back to the old love with Belzer?
Beautiful set, almost too nice to use

 

[sljeme345]

Thanks!

Back to the old love with Belzer?
Beautiful set, almost too nice to use

Yes, old love

I found another old 1/4" set but Stahlwill. The price is great, I think I'll take it

 

[vintage nut]

I've really been loving the German combination wrenches lately.... Good assortment of hazet and Elora.
Kinda thinking I'll replace my snapon set with hazet sometime...

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[node105]

What are some brands known for quality/innovative/ergonomic. etc basic carpentry hand tool brands?

Hammers,squares, pry bars, measuring tools,utility knives,nail pullers etc.

Need to buy some of the basics soon. I have fascination for European/Japanese mechanic/hand tools so thought I would check here before buying the typical box store stuff here in the USA.

Thanks.

HAMMERS:
Picard http://www.picard-hammer.de/en/home.html
Peddinghaus http://www.peddinghaus.de
Thor https://www.thorhammer.com


SQUARES:
E.C.Emmerich. http://www.ecemmerich.com
Ulmia http://www.ulmia.de/English/Ulmia-Uebersicht.htm


PRY BARS
Rennsteig https://www.rennsteig.com/en/


MEASURING TOOLS
BMI http://www.bmi.de
Shinwa http://shinwa-measuring.com
Vogel http://www.vogel-germany.de
Starret http://www.starrett.com


Nail Pullers
Knipex. http://www.knipex.com/nc/en/produkte/