Tools from the old world

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I've really been loving the German combination wrenches lately.... Good assortment of hazet and Elora.
Kinda thinking I'll replace my snapon set with hazet sometime...

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Hazet are terrific, I have a lot. Have a look at Stahlwille, even better in some aspects; finish, handle shape, and lighter.

Have a look at TBS Aachen for both
http://www.tbs-aachen.de

 

[vintage nut]

Hazet are terrific, I have a lot. Have a look at Stahlwille, even better in some aspects; finish, handle shape, and lighter.

Have a look at TBS Aachen for both
http://www.tbs-aachen.de

I've always liked stahlwille too, hazet is probably my favorite brand though. I'll buy every single used hazet tool I see, even if I don't need it.

I've got about half a set of the hazet 600 (not 600n) that are my absolute favorite wrenches. Only go by 1/8s though.. I have the rest filled in with snapon and proto

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[losvre]

Just got a Sykes Pickavant pressure gauge, made for Halfords in the UK, until I decide for a better one. I tested against two perrol stations and the reading is bang on.

I have a closer look and it seems it is the bourbon type, so it may be good.



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[Fretters]

Thanks Monte, now you made me hate my Makita Sander that I just got

The Festool will probably be a silly high price compared to your Makita though. Just wondered if you've used that as yet? Was looking at those the other day, but wondered how good they are to use, balance wise etc., with them being as tall as they are.

 

[Fretters]

some Parkside jig saw blades:

I picked up a pack of their blades the other week, to see what they're like. Only used the slim blade so far, but it's still in one piece and cutting, which is always a good sign. It's got a slight twist to it now though, due to cutting some fairly tight curves. I used it to make a caddy for the planer so that the base, (although the sole plates have already got some gouges in due to numpties putting pins where they're neither needed nor belong. Trashed two sets of blades in one day due to that trick), and blades are protected whilst it's in the bag.

Made from three layers of MDF, glued and pinned.

Cut a piece of camping mat to go in the middle section for some padding. Btw, you'll have to excuse the 2nd & 3rd photo's being a bit crappy.

Yup, that is a 12" Bahco square in the first pic too. Plus a Bosch sander.

It was only a quickly made affair, btw, so no judging. One of those rare occasions where I was more interested in functionality over form.

 

[Monte]

Some of you guys know if Carolus made in Germany torque wrench is made by Gedore?Is the same wrench?
I need one 60-300nm

it´s a Gedore Torcoflex

ALL: thanks for showing us what we are all missing in the USA cause a lot of these we might not ever see or be able to buy without a truck load of cash.

i picked these up a while back that i'm not exactly sure what they are, but they are in great shape and MADE IN GERMANY so thought if MONTE didn't know maybe one of you might. i'm pretty sure these are holders, but not exactly sure what they are meant to hold. Any ideas and are they vintage cause they appear to be almost new condition?

i've picked up quite a few tools from your side of the world over the years and most if not all have been very good quality. i love my Fein 250 quick change and own two of them, but i heard the newer ones are quieter. are they?

cheers and hope you are all having a great weekend

Used for electronics (TV repair etc.). Maybe made by Bernstein since their tools are usually yellow.

http://www.bernstein-werkzeuge.de/en/

Yes the new Fein 350 are a bit quieter and vibrate less because of their construction. But the old ones are nice too

Monte, does your Fein has any "protection" like this?

Thanks guys

Yes. It will shut down if necessary to protect the batteries. I think all Li-Ion tools have this feature. I once drilled a hole with a step drill bit through a car body but in a slight angle because there was no space and the drill stopped so i had to use a corded drill...but other than this time it drilled through everything.

The Festool will probably be a silly high price compared to your Makita though.

The price was ok....unfortunately only in the US (and Canada)

Osborn wire wheel

 

[Precivilization]

The Festool will probably be a silly high price compared to your Makita though. Just wondered if you've used that as yet? Was looking at those the other day, but wondered how good they are to use, balance wise etc., with them being as tall as they are.

Festool is three times as much as the Makita orbital sander. I have not used it yet to see how well it performs, but I bought it of off Amazon.com after doing some research due to the glowing reviews, even though it's not brushless model. Another deciding factor was the fact that I already have the batteries and charger from Makita. As a bonus found out upon receiving that it wasn't made in China, but rather the UK.

 

[Precivilization]

Osborn wire wheel

Just got this Stainless Steel wire wheel INOX , Made in EEC-European Economic Community, wherever that is.

So I meant to ask, what is the function of this ratchet adapter? It has no reverse lever, it just tightens, but doesn't loosen.

 

[losvre]

Yes. It will shut down if necessary to protect the batteries. I think all Li-Ion tools have this feature. I once drilled a hole with a step drill bit through a car body but in a slight angle because there was no space and the drill stopped so i had to use a corded drill...but other than this time it drilled through everything.

Thanks Monte,

I believe the brushed models do not have this feature. I have the older Metabo one, SB18LTX, and if for any reason it stuck while trying to drill then you need to release the trigger or your hand

 

[Fretters]

Festool is three times as much as the Makita orbital sander. I have not used it yet to see how well it performs, but I bought it of off Amazon.com after doing some research due to the glowing reviews, even though it's not brushless model. Another deciding factor was the fact that I already have the batteries and charger from Makita. As a bonus found out upon receiving that it wasn't made in China, but rather the UK.

Nowt wrong with brush motors. I'm still more inclined to lean towards those over brushless myself, as yet. It's simple, tried and proven technology. Let me know your opinion of that sander when you try it. I'm still undecided on it as yet, so a proper hands on opinion would be appreciated.

A teaser pic of something which has just been delivered. It's still unopened at the mo', so I can savour the moment.

Pretty much all of my current kit is 18V Makita, but for those odd occasions where those are too big, I've indulged my personal preference of Bosch gear. Reason my other stuff is Makita is for convenience, (can borrow batteries if needed etc., as most gear used is likely to be Makita), but these are the 10.8V/12V jobbies, and likely to be rarely used, so no need to cater to that particular scenario with these, hence the Bosch.

 

[Fretters]

Thanks Monte,

I believe the brushed models do not have this feature. I have the older Metabo one, SB18LTX, and if for any reason it stuck while trying to drill then you need to release the trigger or your hand

The new Makita brush gear is supposed to shut down when overloaded, as far as I know, but one of the apes I work with still managed to find a way of making my SDS smoke when he snagged a drill bit.

 

[Precivilization]

Nowt wrong with brush motors. I'm still more inclined to lean towards those over brushless myself, as yet. It's simple, tried and proven technology. Let me know your opinion of that sander when you try it. I'm still undecided on it as yet, so a proper hands on opinion would be appreciated.

A teaser pic of something which has just been delivered. It's still unopened at the mo', so I can savour the moment.

Pretty much all of my current kit is 18V Makita, but for those odd occasions where those are too big, I've indulged my personal preference of Bosch gear. Reason my other stuff is Makita is for convenience, (can borrow batteries if needed etc., as most gear used is likely to be Makita), but these are the 10.8V/12V jobbies, and likely to be rarely used, so no need to cater to that particular scenario with these, hence the Bosch.

There is certainly nothing wrong with brushed motors, but brushless seems to be more efficient on a battery platform, you get more run-time out of your battery among other few benefits.

Looking forward to your Bosch tool

 

[jessysirazvan]

it´s a Gedore Torcoflex

Thanks Monte.In 2 days i make the order.After pics

 

[ricleh]

So I meant to ask, what is the function of this ratchet adapter? It has no reverse lever, it just tightens, but doesn't loosen.

It is for use with a Rahsol torque wrench that has a fixed drive end.

 

[Precivilization]

It is for use with a Rahsol torque wrench that has a fixed drive end.

Thanks, I wouldn't have guessed it. Now I sort of have a useless tool on my hand.

 

[ricleh]

Not necessarily, I bought one on ebay a couple weeks ago for one of my Rahsol Dremometers. You may be able to sell it if you don't have a use for it. What size drive is it?

 

[Precivilization]

Not necessarily, I bought one on ebay a couple weeks ago for one of my Rahsol Dremometers. You may be able to sell it if you don't have a use for it. What size drive is it?

I certainly have no use for it. I bought in a haste from my local Gedore dealer, it was on the clearance section for next to nothing, I thought it was an ordinary ratchet adapter, and it seems like they had it for over 15 years if not more. Its 1/2 drive.

 

[chrissalas1]

Thanks Monte,

I believe the brushed models do not have this feature. I have the older Metabo one, SB18LTX, and if for any reason it stuck while trying to drill then you need to release the trigger or your hand[emoji38]

And me too thinking that the brushless have this feature.I forgot to tell you that about a week before i was drilling a 8mm plate with a 8.5mm drill and the drill stucked so the metabo stopped but unfortunately my brand new drill bit allready broke.But with the hand i cannot stop it whether it is at speed 1 or 2.If it will stop for some reason you can immediately push the button and continue drilling.

 

[ricleh]

I certainly have no use for it. I bought in a haste from my local Gedore dealer, it was on the clearance section for next to nothing, I thought it was an ordinary ratchet adapter, and it seems like they had it for over 15 years if not more. Its 1/2 drive.

If you want to sell it or trade for a traditional ratchet adapter send me a private message.

 

[drivesitfar]

MONTE & ALL: is there a metal bit for my Fein 250 that works cause the ones i have seem to burn up? i love my Fein for cutting wood and even rubber and metal not so much.

do you guys post vintage tools here or maybe Monte can start a European (old world) tools thread in Vintage tools?

cheers

 

[Fretters]

"Old tools from the old world" has a certain ring to it.

 

[Fretters]

Finally got round to checking out the new additions earlier.

Compact drill and driver. Had a task the other week where I just couldn't get in with the 18V kit due to its size, so these are for those odd occasions where that situation arises.

 

[Monte]

Made in EEC-European Economic Community, wherever that is.

It was a lost empire in the western hemisphere

Thanks Monte,

I believe the brushed models do not have this feature. I have the older Metabo one, SB18LTX, and if for any reason it stuck while trying to drill then you need to release the trigger or your hand

that might be possible. I don´t have much experience with cordless drills. Never pushed them to their limits it seems

Thanks Monte.In 2 days i make the order.After pics

MONTE & ALL: is there a metal bit for my Fein 250 that works cause the ones i have seem to burn up? i love my Fein for cutting wood and even rubber and metal not so much.

do you guys post vintage tools here or maybe Monte can start a European (old world) tools thread in Vintage tools?

cheers

Bosch offers carbide blades which should work better:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DDA887A/?tag=atomicindus08-20

all tools from the old world are ok...old and new

Finally got round to checking out the new additions earlier.

nice kit !













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[Dimitri]

New flare nut wrenches.

17x19
19x22
22x24
24x27

Dimitri

 

[losvre]

And me too thinking that the brushless have this feature.I forgot to tell you that about a week before i was drilling a 8mm plate with a 8.5mm drill and the drill stucked so the metabo stopped but unfortunately my brand new drill bit allready broke.But with the hand i cannot stop it whether it is at speed 1 or 2.If it will stop for some reason you can immediately push the button and continue drilling.

Thanks Chrissalas1,

It seems that it is not a "problem" with the brushless. I may get the new LTX-3 if it is made in Germany???

I believe the Fein are better made but I am on Metabo batteries.

I actually bought a brushed SBLTX quick on auction but it arrived damaged and I think I would have to file a case in Ebay[emoji50]!

From a look I had it is 100 gr lighter, 10mm shorter and 5 mm slimmer than the 1st version plus it is 1700 rpm vs 1400 rpm.

Only thing worried me a bit is that when you look through the body you can see a lot of plastic!

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[Matt XYZ]

Picked up a few things this week. Wiha Screwdrivers and Torx set for Knorr store 250 year anniversary marked down from 30 to 15 Euro / $18. Also grabbed a Workzone light from Aldi and a set of torx and E-torx sockets from WGB. No COO on the WGB torx packaging so it may be imported.

 

[Monte]

Sortimo L-Boxx

 

[losvre]

Sortimo L-Boxx

Monte,

What you think is better to have the Sortimo or the Festool like boxes. Any specs against each other? Strength, quick and easy locking to each other etc.

Thanks again!

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[PureLeaf]

Thanks Chrissalas1,

It seems that it is not a "problem" with the brushless. I may get the new LTX-3 if it is made in Germany???

I believe the Fein are better made but I am on Metabo batteries.

I actually bought a brushed SBLTX quick on auction but it arrived damaged and I think I would have to file a case in Ebay[emoji50]!

From a look I had it is 100 gr lighter, 10mm shorter and 5 mm slimmer than the 1st version plus it is 1700 rpm vs 1400 rpm.


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Looks like the same drill I have. It has the quick release, brushless, and its a hammer drill right?

I agree with what you said. The Fein is a better drill. It feels better, seems to just work, given me a much better impression when I used one to build a deck. Unfortunately I bought 3 Fein drill sets, 1 for dad, 1 for a friend, and one for an uncle. I was already on Metabo and Metabo batteries.

I've had binding issues with my metabo stalling out when using spade bits and hole saws. I'd also in future probably not buy the quick disconnect version as it seems to have a bit of wobble to the bit from the quality of that connection. The upside of course of the quick release is I have a right angle adapter and a 1/4 bit adapter. Then again, I've also a few corded drills, and sometimes its just nice to make those out. No technology, no beeping, they just power through.

 

[jessysirazvan]

Carolus torque wrench model 5900.300 (Same as Gedore Torcoflex-Thanks to Monte for info)
60nm-300nm
The rotation of the handle is very smooth on all the scale from 60nm to 300nm( I say this because in many torque wrench the rotation movement of handle become very stiff at the end of scale)

Padre 1056 impact socket - Made in Germany 3/4 square 30mm
We need it for axle nut

 

[Monte]

Today I found a little knipex set in my workshop in a bin under a 914 cylinder head lol. I can't keep track of all this Germany stuff.

nice ! I wish i could find something like that under my stuff ....but usually it´s just dust

Monte,
What you think is better to have the Sortimo or the Festool like boxes. Any specs against each other? Strength, quick and easy locking to each other etc.
Thanks again!

I think i like the T-Lock systainers a tad better because of the locking system.
The T-lock is easier to connect to each other (old systainer *****...) and you also can open the 2nd or 3rd systainer with the T-lock still connected. L-Boxxes have to be removed if you need something from a lower box.
Maybe this video helps:

If you don´t need a locking system i still think the Fein cases are the best Because of the styrofoam insert, metal latches and they are a bit larger....

Carolus torque wrench model 5900.300 (Same as Gedore Torcoflex-Thanks to Monte for info)
60nm-300nm
The rotation of the handle is very smooth on all the scale from 60nm to 300nm( I say this because in many torque wrench the rotation movement of handle become very stiff at the end of scale)

nice wrench !














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[losvre]

I think i like the T-Lock systainers a tad better because of the locking system.
The T-lock is easier to connect to each other (old systainer *****...) and you also can open the 2nd or 3rd systainer with the T-lock still connected. L-Boxxes have to be removed if you need something from a lower box.

If you don´t need a locking system i still think the Fein cases are the best Because of the styrofoam insert, metal latches and they are a bit larger....

Monte Thanks!



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[losvre]

Looks like the same drill I have. It has the quick release, brushless, and its a hammer drill right?

I agree with what you said. The Fein is a better drill. It feels better, seems to just work, given me a much better impression when I used one to build a deck. Unfortunately I bought 3 Fein drill sets, 1 for dad, 1 for a friend, and one for an uncle. I was already on Metabo and Metabo batteries.

I've had binding issues with my metabo stalling out when using spade bits and hole saws. I'd also in future probably not buy the quick disconnect version as it seems to have a bit of wobble to the bit from the quality of that connection. The upside of course of the quick release is I have a right angle adapter and a 1/4 bit adapter. Then again, I've also a few corded drills, and sometimes its just nice to make those out. No technology, no beeping, they just power through.

Hi Pureleaf,

Is your Metabo brushless? Does it have yhe button on the rear top to override the drilling mode?

Why you say "unfortunately" bought 3 Fein drill sets?

Cheers

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[chrissalas1]

I bought one.
It is like the rs.440e but with the new ratchets and with a 1/2 universal joint.The price is very good.
http://m.tbs-aachen.de/item/31393038363632

 

[PureLeaf]

Hi Pureleaf,

Is your Metabo brushless? Does it have yhe button on the rear top to override the drilling mode?

Why you say "unfortunately" bought 3 Fein drill sets?

Cheers

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I just meant that unfortunately one of those sets was not for me! Just presents for family/friends.

Here is a picture of some of my Metabo garbage. I also have the cordless and corded reciprocating saws. Purchased them before I knew better, and learned about their terrible USA customer service.

I have the Metabo SB18LTX BL 18V 1/2-Inch Brushless Hammer Drill Kit, and yes it has the button on the top to override into drill mode.

 

[Fretters]

Like that L-boxx Monte.

Whilst we're on the Metabo subject, my one and only piece, currently, of Metabo gear. Have been considering getting a Metabo bag too, to shove the new Bosch gear in. I know that sounds a bit contradictory, but I prefer the design of the Metabo bags over the Bosch bags. They're similar to the Makita bags, and it would be easier to tell which bag the Bosch gear is in if it wasn't yet another Makita bag, (I have 3 of the 4 tool bags already, for the Makita gear, so it's already a bit confusing ). Anyhows, I'll stop digressing and get back to the drill.

 

[losvre]

I just meant that unfortunately one of those sets was not for me! Just presents for family/friends.

Here is a picture of some of my Metabo garbage. I also have the cordless and corded reciprocating saws. Purchased them before I knew better, and learned about their terrible USA customer service.

I have the Metabo SB18LTX BL 18V 1/2-Inch Brushless Hammer Drill Kit, and yes it has the button on the top to override into drill mode.

3 drills for others- You are very generous I have to say!

What is that you do not really like with your Metabo gear let aside their service.

I don't have a problem spending the money to buy the best, however I am not using the tools as much I would like to. My work is on the desk nowadays and when home the kids and wife are torturing me

 

[PureLeaf]

3 drills for others- You are very generous I have to say!

What is that you do not really like with your Metabo gear let aside their service.

I don't have a problem spending the money to buy the best, however I am not using the tools as much I would like to. My work is on the desk nowadays and when home the kids and wife are torturing me

The circular saw as others have said is just underpowered junk. Just doesn't have the power. Only cuts the smallest of things before binding up/stalling out. Putting that brand new diablo blade didn't help it either.

On the drill. The chuck is quick release so it can be replaced with other add ons. A cool feature. However it gives it a bit of wobble/run out that drills with fixed chucks do not have. So thats disappointing in such an expensive drill. I've been using it with hole saws on a 1/2 arbor, and was having issues with it loosening. I've also had issues of the drill cutting out if I drilled at a slight angle. I know this is the drill protecting itself or some nonsense. I'd rather it not. Like my corded drill just goes. It doesn't care, it'll rip my arm off before it stops, and I prefer that method of operation, instead of a drill that thinks its smart. The LED gimmicky sensor that comes on constantly whenever you move the drill I find kinda annoying. Rather it be trigger controlled as most drills are.

The 1/4 bit driver is fine, does its job. Has 3 speed settings. Fair bit of plastic, even the front area that appears metal, is not, its plastic. But it does its job driving screws, and it fits ACR style bits so thats nice.

Reciprocating saw is ok for small jobs, but its a TTI clone that was put out by companies like Ridgid several years ago. Its just outdated, and not on par with the competition. Lacks orbital oscillation, the adjustment of the foot requires an allen wrench (so not tool-less).

The Metabo plastic cases we get in the USA with them too (none of the nice Systainers or Metalocs) deform quite easily, are thin, and don't even really fit or protect the tools well.

All the tools do their job to some extent, minus the stalling out garbage from the circular saw. But compared to the Fein drills I've handled (from the ones I'd bought as presents in that ToolNut deal like a year ago), along with the corded Fein Drywall screwdriver I own, and my fein grinder, I'd much rather choose a Fein drill in my future when my metabo batteries kick the bucket, that or go with Makita which would have more availability and better pricing in the USA. Whatever path I go, it won't be more Metabo.

 

[voodooaw]

I think i like the T-Lock systainers a tad better because of the locking system.
The T-lock is easier to connect to each other (old systainer *****...) and you also can open the 2nd or 3rd systainer with the T-lock still connected. L-Boxxes have to be removed if you need something from a lower box.
Maybe this video helps:

If you don´t need a locking system i still think the Fein cases are the best Because of the styrofoam insert, metal latches and they are a bit larger....

The Fein boxes have excellent design, but it seems to be a little bit easy to break. My friend has two of these box with cracks near the joint. They are almost new.

 

[jessysirazvan]

Some of you guys has ever used Liqui Moly LM50 lithium grease.I need it for lube auto bearing and gear wheel for some angle grinder.I heard that Molykote grease is just as good like Liqui Moly.
Or you know another good grease for bearings and high speed gear wheels?

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