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hautpot

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Not sure about the nail trimmers from Keiba Losvre. I seen then on my travels but never really had interest in them.

Nice score decaf.

What would you guys recommend for driving gloves? I want a pair for winter and a pair for the haut summers of California:D
 
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Not sure about the nail trimmers from Keiba Losvre. I seen then on my travels but never really had interest in them.

Nice score decaf.

What would you guys recommend for driving gloves? I want a pair for winter and a pair for the haut summers of California:D
hautpot,

Are you after motorbike gloves I assume?

For winter you would need the thick insulated ones with air and rain stop exterior.

Most brand name ones should be ok, just check the reviews online once you spot a pair you like.

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So I got these while I was cleaning out my parents old house from my dads old 70s era snap on tool box. The only marking on them says "W GERMANY". I actually love the pistol grip on the handle. I am going to figure out a way to fix them up and lightly restore them. They'll be staying in my tool box for sure. I think these qualify as "old world" :bounce:
 

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So I got these while I was cleaning out my parents old house from my dads old 70s era snap on tool box. The only marking on them says "W GERMANY". I actually love the pistol grip on the handle. I am going to figure out a way to fix them up and lightly restore them. They'll be staying in my tool box for sure. I think these qualify as "old world" :bounce:

Hi everyone, a long time lost (I don't know, almost a couple years).
I'm put myself up date last days with some hundred post. In next days will post some photos (not all from Europe, sadly :().

Hey quick86, those are nice pliers, I like the joint system, they don't have a voluminous screw or rivet, thinner profile than many at present.
 
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Wiha ProStar torx and hex sets
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A lot longer than my old bondhus
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jalfaro

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Some tools for microcontrollers (Arduino and Raspberry Pi) classes and projects

UNI-T Multimeter: China
Weller soldering Iron: México
Channellock (Blue) pliers: USA
Kester solder paste: México
Red Cutter: Hakko, from Italy
 

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voodooaw

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Hello Cynical huckster,

Very interesting information but I know only hand tools made in France.

I am wondering if French make any power tools or they buy from elsewhere.

For example, any made in France drills, grinders, saws, etc.??

Thanks for the feedback [emoji106]



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I've seen French made Desoutter cordless torque screwdrivers. Not sure if they are still manufactured there. Their tools aim at industrial customers so I can't find much information.
 

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I've seen French made Desoutter cordless torque screwdrivers. Not sure if they are still manufactured there. Their tools aim at industrial customers so I can't find much information.

I have hard time to find anything either.

I mean French have Dassault Systems, part of Airbus, they build ships, motors, etc.

Nevertheles, I wonder what machines they use to manufacture all these equipment and structures.:headscrat
 

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Hit it with a hammer and turn the way you want to go.... the hammer pushing down acts kinda like an impact wrench... helping to loosen the bolt/nut.... the down force from hammer turns it plus you turning it with your hand.
 

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I've seen French made Desoutter cordless torque screwdrivers. Not sure if they are still manufactured there. Their tools aim at industrial customers so I can't find much information.

Oops! I really forgot about Desoutter. Probably because they make more air tools than power tools. Moreover, I thought that they are an American company, but not French. Shame on me :D
 
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zeug

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Hey all,

I am looking for a good bit ratchet. I would like a slim profile for tight spots. A kit with bits and a case is good as long as the bits are quality and worth the added expense. If not I will just order bits from another mfgr separately. I am not sure if an offset handle is an asset or liability? Does 60 tooth vs 72 tooth on a very short ratchet make a difference? Other things to consider?

Any help with personal experience or comparison between the sizes of ratchets would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Zeug

The three I am looking are:

Felo- $21 for the ratchet, $58 for the set

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Wiha- $29 for ratchet and $33 for the set

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Wera - $39 for Ratchet

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Hey all,

I am looking for a good bit ratchet. I would like a slim profile for tight spots. A kit with bits and a case is good as long as the bits are quality and worth the added expense. If not I will just order bits from another mfgr separately. I am not sure if an offset handle is an asset or liability? Does 60 tooth vs 72 tooth on a very short ratchet make a difference? Other things to consider?

Any help with personal experience or comparison between the sizes of ratchets would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Zeug

The three I am looking are:

Felo- $21 for the ratchet, $58 for the set

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Wiha- $29 for ratchet and $33 for the set

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Wera - $39 for Ratchet

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I have the Felo and the Wiha. I like the thumb wheel on the Wiha but in every other way the Felo feels better. It's also the only one of the three made in Germany, Wiha and Wera ratchets are made in Taiwan, if that matters.

I really like how the Felo is angled so you have space for your fingers to grip it. Either are good choices but I'd keep the Felo over the Wiha without a second thought.
 

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Hey all,

I am looking for a good bit ratchet. I would like a slim profile for tight spots. A kit with bits and a case is good as long as the bits are quality and worth the added expense. If not I will just order bits from another mfgr separately. I am not sure if an offset handle is an asset or liability? Does 60 tooth vs 72 tooth on a very short ratchet make a difference? Other things to consider?

Any help with personal experience or comparison between the sizes of ratchets would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Zeug

I've only got the Wiha set, no experience with the others. Great tool.

I was amazed at how compact the set is, you don't really get a good perspective from the stock photo. Here's a shot with a quarter to give you an idea of the actual size of the set....

$33 is an excellent price for the 35 piece set.
 

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jessysirazvan

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Hey all,

I am looking for a good bit ratchet. I would like a slim profile for tight spots. A kit with bits and a case is good as long as the bits are quality and worth the added expense. If not I will just order bits from another mfgr separately. I am not sure if an offset handle is an asset or liability? Does 60 tooth vs 72 tooth on a very short ratchet make a difference? Other things to consider?

Any help with personal experience or comparison between the sizes of ratchets would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Zeug

The three I am looking are:

Felo- $21 for the ratchet, $58 for the set

F61569__68265__41994.1461686467.jpg


F61545__05067__72463.1461697313.jpg


Wiha- $29 for ratchet and $33 for the set

38060__02232__38819.1461677557.jpg


74996__20942__72587.1461677420.jpg


Wera - $39 for Ratchet

WR073230-3__53544.1467061875.jpg

I own wera and the quality is excelent,the moviment is very smooth and accurate in both direction
Mine is this and is Made in Czech Republic
https://www.amazon.it/gp/aw/d/B00BT...+bit+check&dpPl=1&dpID=41GGgFE9joL&ref=plSrch

The only thing i do not like is that the handle is very slippery if you have dirty oil hands
 

zeug

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I have the Felo and the Wiha. I like the thumb wheel on the Wiha but in every other way the Felo feels better. It's also the only one of the three made in Germany, Wiha and Wera ratchets are made in Taiwan, if that matters.

I really like how the Felo is angled so you have space for your fingers to grip it. Either are good choices but I'd keep the Felo over the Wiha without a second thought.

I've only got the Wiha set, no experience with the others. Great tool.

I was amazed at how compact the set is, you don't really get a good perspective from the stock photo. Here's a shot with a quarter to give you an idea of the actual size of the set....

$33 is an excellent price for the 35 piece set.

I own wera and the quality is excelent,the moviment is very smooth and accurate in both direction
Mine is this and is Made in Czech Republic
https://www.amazon.it/gp/aw/d/B00BT...+bit+check&dpPl=1&dpID=41GGgFE9joL&ref=plSrch

The only thing i do not like is that the handle is very slippery if you have dirty oil hands

OK, one vote for each! :lol_hitti

Thanks for the input guys. Would it be possible for each of you to measure the over all length and thickness of the head?

Also the dimensions of the case?

Thanks again,
zeug
 

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Oops! I really forgot about Desoutter. Probably because they make more air tools than power tools. Moreover, I thought that they are an American company, but not French. Shame on me :D

Desoutter is, or was, a British company, and all of the classic Desoutter air tools were British designed and British made.

The original Desoutter business was manufacturing artificial limbs from aluminium, but they got into designing their own tools and hence Desoutter air tools came about. Their factory was in Hendon, North London, for many years. (Both my parents came from the Hendon area and Desoutter, together with the photographic equipment manufacturer 'Johnsons' were the biggest employer there. Sadly, Mum, and Dad for a couple of years, worked for Johnsons, so I have a loft full of photographic equipment but had to buy all my air tools - you win some and lose some!)

Pretty much 'industry standard' here in the U.K. I have many Desoutter tools, and the quality (of the British made tools) cannot be beaten. If there's a downside it's that the tools are more geared to the industrial or aerospace environment, and some are very specialised. The 'OEM' of Desoutter tools was Desoutter, they built almost everything 'in house' and could still supply accessories and spares for even very old tools.

Of course, like so many other 'national assets' Desoutter have passed from one owner to another in recent years, none of whom seem to have wanted to maintain the companies position as a manufacturer of only the highest quality tools, and all manner of **** has appeared with the Desoutter name glued on.

Many of the traditional patterns of air tool are still made, but the last I saw was built in Hungary. (If you don't know the individual patterns, you can recognise these by their all metal construction with red handgrips). Better than some options I suppose, but the Desoutter Brothers, who were keen pilots and friends of my Great Uncle, would probably turn in their graves if they knew!
 

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Desoutter is, or was, a British company, and all of the classic Desoutter air tools were British designed and British made.

The original Desoutter business was manufacturing artificial limbs from aluminium, but they got into designing their own tools and hence Desoutter air tools came about. Their factory was in Hendon, North London, for many years.

Pretty much 'industry standard' here in the U.K. I have many, and the quality (of the British made tools) cannot be beaten. If there's a downside it's that the tools are more geared to industrial or aerospace environment and some are very specialised. The 'OEM' of Desoutter tools was Desoutter, they built almost everything 'in house' and could still supply accessories and spares for even very old tools.

Of course, like so many other 'national assets' Desoutter have passed from one owner to another in recent years, none of whom seem to have wanted to maintain the companies position as a manufacturer of only the highest quality tools, and all manner of **** has appeared with the Desoutter name glued on. Many of the traditional patterns of air tool are still made, but the last I saw was built in Hungary. Better than some options I suppose, but the Desoutter Brothers, who were keen pilots and friends of my Great Uncle, would probably turn in their graves if they knew!

It's interesting that Desoutter is a generic name for a type of electric metal shear. I have one that is rated for 14 gauge steel.

I believe that the Desoutter brothers made Douglas Bader's legs for him.
 

Cynical huckster

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Desoutter is, or was, a British company, and all of the classic Desoutter air tools were British designed and British made.

Yes, Desoutter Industrial Tools company was founded in the UK, but now headquartered in Saint-Herblain, France. They are members of Swedish Atlas Copco group, and American company Tech-motive was integrated in the Desoutter company in 2005.

So I'm not sure about how to call them. A British company? French? International?
 

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Yes, Desoutter Industrial Tools company was founded in the UK, but now headquartered in Saint-Herblain, France. They are members of Swedish Atlas Copco group, and American company Tech-motive was integrated in the Desoutter company in 2005.

So I'm not sure about how to call them. A British company? French? International?

I did say 'was'! I suspect you would describe them as 'multi national' these days!
 

zeug

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OK, one vote for each! :lol_hitti

Thanks for the input guys. Would it be possible for each of you to measure the over all length and thickness of the head?

Also the dimensions of the case?

Thanks again,
zeug

My impatience got to me. Found the Wera for $32 on Chads Tool Box. :3gears:

I'll report back once I have it in hand.
 
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