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:bowdown: thanks for sharing, I also didn't know what hand stitched was. It is unbelievable the skills of those tradesmen

Years ago all files were made by hand, and thousands were employed to do it, it was a terrible job that had a really big impact on the workers health.
Them someone invented a machine to put the file surface on the file blanks and virtually all those guys were no longer needed.
 
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Replacing the power cord on my old (German made) Bosch heat gun today.

Quite an old tool, and perhaps not the best built tools that Bosch made, but it has lasted well!

I just need to use some heat shrink to make a decent job of it. Now where’s my heat gun...? Oh...!
 

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Years ago all files were made by hand, and thousands were employed to do it, it was a terrible job that had a really big impact on the workers health.
Them someone invented a machine to put the file surface on the file blanks and virtually all those guys were no longer needed.

The workers who made files by hand in Britain had a life expectancy of something like 25 years, with a rather unpleasant death towards the end.
File making machines were introduced specifically because of this.
The file blanks were placed on lead blacks while the teeth were being cut, to prevent damage to the forged and ground file blanks, as well as damage to teeth that had already been cut on the opposite side of the blanks.
After the teeth were cut, the files were coated with graphite or a similar release compound, and then dipped in a molten bath of a lead alloy, used to bring the temperature up quickly to the necessary quenching temperature.
Then the red hot blank would be quickly straitened on a wooden block with a wooden mallet and quenched.
A separate lead alloy bath might be used to anneal the fully hardened file a bit.

The workshops were full of lead dust and lead fumes, and usually didn’t have washing facilities so the workers would wind up with kead dust getting on their food as they ate lunch.
 

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Promo stuff

Wera - Innovations and Autumn-Winter Campaign 2020/2021

https://www-de.wera.de/fileadmin/user_upload/elkat/prospekte/autumn-2020/EN_Herbstaktion_2020.pdf

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KNIPEX - StepCut

'The new ease of cable cutting: innovative step cutting edge cuts wires one after the other, saving effort.'

https://www.knipex.de/knipex-stepcut?v=157888&sku=9511160

https://www.knipex.com/index.php?id...SoJaed1qbrUV75DYKNFHSzLqQvczUrjhgl347OWE_c5YI

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Hazet - New promotion brochure, 'special worldwide 2020/21 novelties and additions.'

https://www.hazet.de/media/nxsProspekte/2020/SWW_2020_21_DE_EUR.pdf

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+ contents of the 2020 Adventskalender.

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Like the look – and price – of that new Hazet 5111-3CT 3/8"-drive torque wrench. Anyone know who makes that for them, or does Hazet do its own torque wrenches? I don’t know much about Hazet.
 

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Hazet - New promotion brochure, 'special worldwide 2020/21 novelties and additions.'

I really hoped for a 3/8" long version, but a 3/8" at all is good.

Nice with the bottle opener in the calendar, but I wonder about that screwdriver. Looks plastic, but could be useful if well built.

interesting, is this a brand new tool? looks like they just put up this vid today:

The new part is the serrated jaws. Otherwise it's just like their older cable cutter. The serrations is supposed to decrease cutting force required (40% they claim) and giving a cleaner cut. My opinion is that it was nothing I could notice, but I only used it on normal 3x1,5mm2 so there's no real force required. Also I'm not a professional user so I might not be the best judge.

(disclosure: I was given it as a review sample by Knipex)
 
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Like the look – and price – of that new Hazet 5111-3CT 3/8"-drive torque wrench. Anyone know who makes that for them, or does Hazet do its own torque wrenches? I don’t know much about Hazet.
Hazet makes their own torque wrenches

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Hazet makes their own torque wrenches

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Thanks for sharing Monte, I like those educational videos
 

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Great vid. Thanks

My half says exactly the same thing. And at the same time she buys new things, sweatshirt dresses and the like. And when I tell her that the tools are iron and they will not spoil and in decades, unlike fabrics that spoil in a few years, she says that she will either put my tools in my coffin or sell them.
 

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I forgot to post the photo. Here is a look at the barbecues. There are really old ones. But they still show exactly the size.
 

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Wow, total sausage fest.

I think I counted 7 females in that entire video.

Guess the Brits can't even convince their girlfriends to come along...
 

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Random bits.

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Don't think I've used a t-handle for anything before so thought I would try one to see if I'm missing out on anything.

The t-handle I received differs from the Amazon pic that has 'Made in Germany' on the handle. Maybe they switched suppliers as mine is 'Made in Europe,' presumably in a country that THEY think is less desirable than Germany.

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Pic from amazon.

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I've seen a few Connex tools on Amazon, but don't know anything about them other than they rebrand some German tools. Cannot find a Connex website. Sure I've seen some pics of Connex tools on this thread as an 'in store' brand for somewhere.

There is a supplier here. Interesting what info pops up when you hover a mouse curser over the Ferrometal logo.

https://www.ferrometal.fi/en/ferrometal/products/connex/connex.php

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KS tools version of the Facom bit ratchet.

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Very simple/easy to take apart and reassemble. Mine came dry apart from a small lump of thick grease under the pawl that didn't look to be making contact with anything.

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JBH put me onto the KS tools on another thread as a cheaper way to acquire this ratchet so thanks to him. Also agree with him, that it seems to be the same quality as Facom, just with a slightly different shaped handle.

Anyone interested in buying the KS tools ratchet from Amazon UK, be aware that the price seems to jump from £22-23 up to £47 every few days at the moment.
 

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The t-handle I received differs from the Amazon pic that has 'Made in Germany' on the handle. Maybe they switched suppliers as mine is 'Made in Europe,' presumably in a country that THEY think is less desirable than Germany.
This one is made in slovenia....I guess yours too.... = Oplast..... (?)

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Connex screwdriver:

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No worries with the engraved 'S' it means discontinued. I've got a set of these and they are very good and so is the price...

http://www.onlyqualitytools.com/catalog/Stahlwille/47S.html
These are still for sale on that website and will be for some time, if the stock numbers can be trusted.

There isn’t much info on the web about this ‘S’ story. Why would S stand for discontinued in English or German? For that matter, why would a discontinued product be branded as such? The normal approach is to just let it sell out.

I guess it’s a coincidence that the word ‘seconds’ starts with S?
 

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I have bought discontinued Stahlwille tools before and if they are seconds there is nothing about them that would make you think they are seconds, the website does state there is no Guarantee on the tools with tge engraved S.

Coincidentally there is a very good deal on Starrett branded Stanley style blades as well as in 9 and 18mm snap off style on onlyqualitytools.com, 50 packs for only a few pounds.
 

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I have bought discontinued Stahlwille tools before and if they are seconds there is nothing about them that would make you think they are seconds, the website does state there is no Guarantee on the tools with tge engraved S.

Coincidentally there is a very good deal on Starrett branded Stanley style blades as well as in 9 and 18mm snap off style on onlyqualitytools.com, 50 packs for only a few pounds.

Thank you for sharing the good deal on blades. Placed an order for a few and will certainly come in handy for jobs in the workshop, onsite and around the home. I've purchased from onlyqualitytools.com a few times in the past and I rate them very highly.
 

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I asked Stahlwille if they mark discontinued tools and what the 's' stands for.

'Yes we marked tools that were discontinued.

The “S” denotes a clear identifier that the tools are “Sold as Seen” at low prices and are not valid for warranty claims.'


Not sure if the past tense means that they don't do it any more. Also, not sure if that really is what the S stands for. :dunno:

I've had excellent service from onlyqualitytools.
 

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Thanks for doing that and reporting back, mr.lemons. I actually asked too, about the time I posted about this here, by emailing their [email protected] address. Didn’t get a reply yet and don’t need one now.

That’s interesting. Still slightly mysterious (why mark discontinued tools?), but at least it sounds like they are legitimate tools that Stahlwille isn’t actively disowning. That said, not at all sure I need single-hex universal sockets, especially in 3/8"-inch drive. The price is right if I did, though!
 

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I guess that marking tools makes it clear upfront that there is no warranty as they are no longer produced and therefore cannot be replaced like for like.

Maybe also to prevent unscrupulous resellers charging full price for their tools without warranty.
 

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If I could interrupt the modern tool reviews for just a moment to sneak in this quick vintage posting..., I picked up this Tona socket set at a flea market this morning.

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It’s 1/2-inch square drive with eleven (11) metric sockets (32, 30, 23, 21, 20, 19, 18, 16, 15, 14, and 13), and what appears to be a spark plug socket with an imperial sizing (7/16”) also marked “BSW” (British Standard Whitworth). It had two HEYCO sockets and one Hazet socket in it, which I have removed.

From this photo of a more or less complete set I grabbed on-line...

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...I believe I am missing the speeder, the short extension, a universal joint, and seven (7) sockets. I’m not much of a metric user, but apparently 31, 22, 17, 12, 11, 10 and 9. All the sockets are 6-point.

The tools are marked “TONA”, flanked by “CHROM” and “VANADIUM”, and “MADE IN CZECHOSLOVAKIA”. I don't believe the finish is chrome-plating. It appears to be cadmium or some other form of economy finish.

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I love the pebbled composite handles and I am having some fun inspecting the strange construction, including the deep broaches and some of the odd marks the process and machine has left behind on the inside, which you just don’t see in US products of similar vintage.

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I am not normally a European tools collector, let alone Eastern Europe, and Eastern Bloc, no less. But there is a bit of a personal connection for me with this set. Tona was founded in 1892, originally as an iron foundry, in what then the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

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Czechoslovakia was formed in 1918, at the end of WWI, a few years after my maternal and paternal grandparents escaped to America. In 1948 it became part o the Warsaw Pact. I am guessing it’s late 1950’s or early 1960’s production. If anyone knows more specifically, or knows a lot more about Tona, please chime in.

I will be creating a WANTED ad for the missing pieces. If anyone has any, please let me know. I understand that it's not a rare or terribly important set, but I am impressed with the quality, which is very good, in my opinion, and I would like to complete it. I may even re-finish the box.
 

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