Tools from the old world

[Monte]

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The Peddinghaus hammer factory was closed around 1991 and shipped to France. What they still produce in Germany are the "Schröder" items.
https://www.werkzeugforum.de/peddinghaus-wird-175/

The Durlach/MOB/Magnat/Peddinghaus vices are imported i guess (Kanca/Turkey).
The german made ones are from Ridgid/Peddinghaus.

 

[jaceq]

So I am very suspicious when checking COO of various tools. I have received new wrench last week which seems to be made in Spain. Producer with high reputation (they produce adjustables and many other BAHCO tools since 15 years, and 4 000 years of Basque iron/steel history and other bla-bla-bla) so why not to stamp the COO whichever way?
What is quite unique in this wrench is a big/thick jaws which limit the access to a narrow places and a real mirror shine polish.

 

[Kasal]

Beta extra long pliers set, and KS tools knee pad

 

[drtyler]

So I am very suspicious when checking COO of various tools. I have received new wrench last week which seems to be made in Spain. Producer with high reputation (they produce adjustables and many other BAHCO tools since 15 years, and 4 000 years of Basque iron/steel history and other bla-bla-bla) so why not to stamp the COO whichever way?
What is quite unique in this wrench is a big/thick jaws which limit the access to a narrow places and a real mirror shine polish.

Its probably is stamped under the grip handle. I have seen Spain stamped on the Channellock adjustable wrenches (made by Irega) without the plastic grip.

 

[measuredtwice]

So I am very suspicious when checking COO of various tools. I have received new wrench last week which seems to be made in Spain. Producer with high reputation (they produce adjustables and many other BAHCO tools since 15 years, and 4 000 years of Basque iron/steel history and other bla-bla-bla) so why not to stamp the COO whichever way?
What is quite unique in this wrench is a big/thick jaws which limit the access to a narrow places and a real mirror shine polish.

Their catalog is extensive --> https://www.irimo.com/en/uploads/irimo_catalogo_eng_web.pdf

I think many of these tools are imported from Taiwan or China.

 

[Forgottonia]

Heyco brand West German adjustable pliers from the mid 80s. Back when there *was* a West Germany.

 

[mr.lemons]

 

[mith]

The Peddinghaus hammer factory was closed around 1991 and shipped to France. What they still produce in Germany are the "Schröder" items.
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The Durlach/MOB/Magnat/Peddinghaus vices are imported i guess (Kanca/Turkey).
The german made ones are from Ridgid/Peddinghaus.

Thank you for the information. Closing a factory is really a shame and a loss.
At least Peddinghaus vices are still made.

 

[pizza]

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nice review as always.

the question on my mind is: who makes the best pliers wrench? i wonder if i'll stick with knipex or not for my next pair.

also, is there an accepted generic name for this kind of tool? like channellocks vs tong-and-groove pliers.

 

[measuredtwice]

Nice!

I don't know if PB Swiss has specific patents but the concept goes back many years. In the UK, there's a 1952 patent from a Canadian.

GB667320A Improvements in and relating to Hammers I, JOHANNES WiLLIAM KAHLEN, of 2244, Bellevue Avenue, in the Municipality of West Vancouver, Province of British Columbia, Canada, a citizen of the Dominion of Canada

I know there are multiple patents in multiple countries but I don't know if there are earlier examples.

The illustration shows shot or loose particles used to dampen the recoil.

 

[measuredtwice]

Looks like the Wiha multi-bit screwdrivers are selling well in the USA. There are already 164 reviews with a 4.7 out 5 star average for the 11 in 1.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08P29XFHK/?tag=atomicindus08-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PCCL6LL/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Still haven't picked one up yet.

 

[mr.lemons]

Slight amendment to the VBW vid, and probably obvious to everybody who uses a pliers wrench or cobras. While not as smooth as Gedore, the VBW are very easy to adjust one handed when using a finger rather than relying on gravity.

the question on my mind is: who makes the best pliers wrench? i wonder if i'll stick with knipex or not for my next pair.

Got to try them all.

Nice!

I don't know if PB Swiss has specific patents but the concept goes back many years. In the UK, there's a 1952 patent from a Canadian.

I haven't seen any other dead blows that use washers, though there maybe some. Gives the hammer a slightly different feel and sound than ball bearings. Not sure if it makes any functional difference.

 

[Adriangtr]

wow that are some nice hazet tools Congratulation. Do you know how those foam inserts will cope with oily/greasy hands?

receive a used flex head-bend handle (dont know if they have a special name) ratchet
Its a Stahlwille 439 in 3/8

That's an awesome ratchet donyou still have this ?

 

[Lasu]

New old stock 1/4

I glued the rubber

 

[davethorik]

Didn't need these, but they popped up on marketplace for $20 so I grabbed them anyway. These have the notch, I already had an 8" CoBolt without.

 

[mr.lemons]

New old stock 1/4

Nice looking set. Did you put the size labels in the sockets or did they come like that?

 

[mr.lemons]

Stanley pliers, Chinese power probe and trim pliers.

Updated version of the trim pliers with plastic inserts to prevent scratching paint and an adjustable jaw-stop to prevent damaging trim clips. This updated version has been available for a good while now.

They look and feel cheap, but work very well. Jaws are sharp enough to slip under the head of clips and the jaw-stop prevents over squeezing.

Ampliversal crimp tool.

Not sure who makes these. Maybe Knipex/Rennsteig.

 

[Qualitytools]

I have the old version of the clip remover and it works quite well. I am very impressed with it for the price.

 

[mr.lemons]

First time using Fatmax pliers.

 

[Monte]

Some car cleaning/detailing tools/supplies:

 

[TjoFrasse]

First time using Fatmax pliers.

That's a shame? Glue them back or warranty?

Thought I would expand some on the discussion of the combination pliers design.

The reason I said it is for extra "reach" is because that's the explanation I got for the existence of the Knipex 01-series.

The story was that when Knipex stopped doing the offset cutters (like the Gedore) and went for the current flat design of the 02 and 03 series they got complaints. People wanted the ability to get closer that they could with the offset design.

The reason for changing the design to the flat one is the same reason that every other manufacturer has done it, costs. The offset design was harder to produce, and therefore cost more.

And so they introduced the 01 series, which has a regular 03 but with material milled away at the jaw. So no other material or an extra sturdy design, just better reach with the cutter offset.

But it's just what I heard, I have no definitive source.

 

[mr.lemons]

That's a shame? Glue them back or warranty?

Glued them.

Interesting about the pliers designs.

 

[dede2897234]

Stanley pliers, Chinese power probe and trim pliers.

Updated version of the trim pliers with plastic inserts to prevent scratching paint and an adjustable jaw-stop to prevent damaging trim clips. This updated version has been available for a good while now.

They look and feel cheap, but work very well. Jaws are sharp enough to slip under the head of clips and the jaw-stop prevents over squeezing.

Hi Mr. Lemons,

I have never seen that design for a clip remover pliers. It has a couple cool desirable features!

Where did you buy them?

Can you please response with a clickable link to the resellers website?

Thanks,

Dave

 

[Qualitytools]

I am sure Mr. Lemon will reply to your request. Meanwhile, here is the description for the one that I own purchased thru eBay

Blue Tool Removal Panel Trim Clip Car Door Trim Clip Upholstery Fastener Pliers

 

[mr.lemons]

I have never seen that design for a clip remover pliers. It has a couple cool desirable features!

Where did you buy them?

I got them from a Chinese seller on UK ebay. Shipped from China.

Pardon our interruption...

They are available in the US, branded 'Astro Pneumatic Tool 9581.' Not sure if the Chinese pliers are exactly the same as the Astro pliers, or knock offs.

Precision Panel Clip Pliers | Astro Pneumatic Tools

Precision Panel Clip Pliers for accessing and removal difficult flush fasteners and clips Rounded shoulder to help pry fasteners up Precision ground for sli ...

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Amazon.com: Astro Pneumatic Tool 9581 Adjustable Non-Marring Precision Panel Clip Pliers : Tools & Home Improvement

Amazon.com: Astro Pneumatic Tool 9581 Adjustable Non-Marring Precision Panel Clip Pliers : Tools & Home Improvement

www.amazon.com

If you go the Ebay/China route, be aware that the photos of the new and old style can be mixed up, so it's not always clear which style you are going to get. I contacted a couple of sellers who were showing pics of the new style, but confirmed that they were actually selling the old style. I went with a seller that specifically said they were selling the newer style.

 

[Cynical huckster]

Wexo machine tap for stainless steel. Suitable for through and blind holes. Made in Japan by OSG.

 

[mith]

Does anyone know what is this? Is it a ribe/polydrive wrench?

 

[TjoFrasse]

Does anyone know what is this? Is it a ribe/polydrive wrench?

Looks like a Metrinch clone. Made for regular six point fasteners, but work for both metric and SAE sizes. 10mm and 3/8" in this case.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Isn't it a flank drive wrench? I'm not familiar with the terms polydrive or Metrinch, but based on TjoFrasse's description and the implication of those portmanteaus, I am guessing you guys mean openings designed to work on imperial or metric fasteners. Perhaps. But it looks like a gearless ratcheting wrench to me. The idea is you grab the nut or bolt, turn, let it slip off the point, re-grab without lifting it off the nut or bolt, then repeat, etc. Earlier invention than most people my age (61) familiar with the Craftsman speed wrench versions in the 70s think, with US and European versions as old as the 1920s. Such as the Peugeot Surpans ("on flank").

 

[TjoFrasse]

Isn't it a flank drive wrench? I'm not familiar with the terms polydrive or Metrinch, but based on TjoFrasse's description and the implication of those portmanteaus, I am guessing you guys mean openings designed to work on imperial or metric fasteners. Perhaps. But it looks like a gearless ratcheting wrench to me. The idea is you grab the nut or bolt, turn, let it slip off the point, re-grab without lifting it off the nut or bolt, then repeat, etc. Earlier invention than most people my age (61) familiar with the Craftsman speed wrench versions in the 70s think, with US and European versions as old as the 1920s. Such as the Peugeot Surpans ("on flank").

The thing that made me think Metrinch-clone is that I read the markings on it as "10mm & 3/8". Other than that you could be right.

Compare to a original Metrinch: https://metrinch.com/metrinch_en/ca...tion-wrenches-metric-and-inch/category/35809/
It's sort of an extreme flank drive design that supposedly makes it work for both sizes. I have never tried one so can't speak for if they work.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Both concepts do kind of use the same principle, Tjo, you're right.

 

[mith]

Thanks for the answers!

I have another one that is marked 19 mm & 3/4", a rather natural correspondance. I think I have more but don't know where exactly, when I find them I will check if they also have double markings.
The shape of the IUS wrench quite matches the Metrinch profile (i tried to overlap them, not sure if it really tells something).
It can turn a 10 mm nut, but it is very sloppy, there is something like 15 or 20° of play between the two directions. It makes sense if they are designed for both metric and imperial (and English?) hex sizes, the extreme flank design must be more forgiving.
The open-end seems very dangerous for fasteners, if not fully engaged, it looks like it can round corners very badly...

 

[littlebean]

we have some metrinch at work...........never get used, supposed to fit both but do neither well

 

[mr.lemons]

How to make your own PB dead blow.

 

[measuredtwice]

Only takes 13 minutes and 23 seconds.

 

[mr.lemons]

Only takes 13 minutes and 23 seconds.

That's with some faffing around and showing off. Should be able to get it done in less than 10.

 

[mith]

10 minutes including the luxury wedge?

 

[mith]

Two Sam spanners/wrenches that are probably not made in France: a long "standard" (taiwanese style) ratcheting wrench (72 teeth), and a long, deep combination spanner. Not very interesting.


I would like an older, french made long pattern wrench, but haven't seen any yet.

 

[measuredtwice]

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