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eas311

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New Old Stock Milwaukee heat gun, Made in Germany and I believe this is a rebranded Steinel. Based off of the box I thought it was from the 1990's, but the manual has a 10/04 at the bottom of the back page so I'm guessing it was produced around 2004. It has a 9 digit serial number and the only Milwaukee decoders I could find were all 12 digits. Any experts out there know how to decode the 9 digit serial numbers?
 

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themu

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Curiosity got the better of me.
Side by side comparison of Tsunoda CA-22 and Weidmuller KT8 cable shears.
Just a disclaimer, imho, Weidmuller style shears are a must for anyone serious about electrical work. (get some!)
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At half the price I can't blame them for the rougher finish and slightly slimmer metal in the handles.
These two will make a pretty good set for my field laptop bag tho.
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I have been wanting to do this comparison for a long time now, hope it helps someone.
 

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Looking at their site they seem to have different product lineups one of them (still) being king ttc. I am most intrigued by their "Strong" lineup offering pliers with eccentric pivot points, bringing the jaws closer. Someday maybe I try those.
 

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I've had the Tsunoda cutters shown above for a few years- used them several times this week. I only use them on copper and they've held up perfectly- as they should. And since you're using them on copper, the handles are way more than beefy enough.

I wish Tsunoda/King/TTC would pick ONE name, and one grip style- the blue textured one. Or anything with a texture but yellow. They make nice pliers but it's just a random mess of names to search for online and then a random mess of grip types; no idea why they don't consolidate.
 

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Anyone know if Gedore do replacement rubber grips for the 1993 series ratchets? I picked one up from eBay and I am not sure what the previous owner was doing with it but there are big chunks missing from it.
 

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Anyone know if Gedore do replacement rubber grips for the 1993 series ratchets? I picked one up from eBay and I am not sure what the previous owner was doing with it but there are big chunks missing from it.
Realy common problem. And there are not service parts for. Little bit a shame for Gedore.
 

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I've had the Tsunoda cutters shown above for a few years- used them several times this week. I only use them on copper and they've held up perfectly- as they should. And since you're using them on copper, the handles are way more than beefy enough.

I wish Tsunoda/King/TTC would pick ONE name, and one grip style- the blue textured one. Or anything with a texture but yellow. They make nice pliers but it's just a random mess of names to search for online and then a random mess of grip types; no idea why they don't consolidate.
I’ve got a pair of those too. Very decent, and relatively inexpensive. I subsequently bought some other Tsunoda pliers, all part of the “King TTC” line.

Yes, it’s all a bit confusing. They offer several different lines. As well as “King TTC” theres “TTC” which are different, and within each line there are different handle styles.

Personally, I love the yellow smooth handles. I hate the oversize grips for most things I do, and anything with texture is dreadful in a greasy environment. I’m glad there’s a choice!
 

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So since I liked the Facom 440 ratcheting spanners I decided to get Facom sockets for now. I still would like Stahlwille but will wait for them to include the QR fine tooth ratchets in the sets and them to come up on offer.
The Facom 1/4 inch set is on promotion at the moment and Facom prices are reasonable in the UK anyway. They will be miles better than the old stuff I currently have.

I bought:

R.161-5P6 1/4" Drive Metric Socket & Bit Set 5.5-14mm

J.161-3P6 3/8" Drive 20 Piece Metric 6 Point Socket Set 7-22mm

Also picked up a set of the Quatro spanners (also on offer) in metric for the motorbike toolrole. 8 sizes in two spanners saves some weight and space !
I have similar Facom sets. The 1/4" set lives on my motorcycle. The 3/8" set is my go to metric sockets. Both are excellent. I have 1980's Snap on SAE and they compare well.
 

Mr MoAiZo

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Dear All,

I am looking for a proper flanging tool for DIN/ISO convex, bubble flare (F 180°, "DIN-F-Bördel") for 4,75mm / 13/16" brake lines.
Any suggestions?

Many thanks in advance.
 

Mr MoAiZo

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qrn model is a great ratchet and the gear mechanism is top notch. i dont see many people talk of them however. maybe its only popular in europe countries

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My favourite ratchets so far in 1/4" and 3/8", have them with the high and with the low tooth count as well with the grip handle and flex head.
I must say that the ratcheting mechanism of the 1/2" 512SG-QR N ist not as nice on my model compared to the 1/4" and 3/8" or the 1/2" with flex head. Might be a "lemon".
 

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Here’s my 1940s Heuer Primus vise that I restored from the ground up. Took it down to bare metal for a repaint, machined a new handle, and added needle bearings to the lead screw. It’s become my favorite vise in the shop. I’ve got a video of the whole restoration here.


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That bearing is a great upgrade! very nice!.
I also restored 3 of them.

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Here’s my 1940s Heuer Primus vise that I restored from the ground up. Took it down to bare metal for a repaint, machined a new handle, and added needle bearings to the lead screw. It’s become my favorite vise in the shop. I’ve got a video of the whole restoration here.

That bearing is a great upgrade! very nice!.
I also restored 3 of them.


DuluthMachineworks and Hardermach, those vises look great!

If you haven't done so already, you should post them to the The Vises of Garage Journal thread.
 

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Electrician/Plumber trade show yesterday in sunny Bolton UK. Same organizers as I have posted about previously, so mostly the same tool brands there. Wera, Knipex, CK, Hikoki, Bosch, Milwaukee, Dewalt etc. Wasn't going to bother going this year, but my Mum lives in Bolton, and it's always nice to see Mum. 😊

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New for this year was Wiha.

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Was very tempted to buy an overpriced little hammer from Wiha. Plastic collar and handle end piece put me off. Doesn't seam right to have what looks to be fragile plastic parts on a hammer. :dunno:

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I showed this comparison photo (posted on another thread) to a Knipex rep. He was aware of the Icon pliers, shrugged, and confirmed that the patent had expired.

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Good price on Twingrips, but they had sold out. Still limited availability in the UK. I tried both handle styles and much preferred the comfort grips for twisty action. I found the thicker handles provided quite a bit more rotational grip.

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Didn't come away with anything exciting. Hultafors utility blades and Milwaukee 90 degree impact adapter. Home of the mighty Bolton Wanderers (football team) in the background. :)

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Was very tempted to buy an overpriced little hammer from Wiha. Plastic collar and handle end piece put me off. Doesn't seam right to have what looks to be fragile plastic parts on a hammer. :dunno:

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I saw these. Essentially a good idea, but not particularly well done (finish a bit crude) and overpriced for what it was I thought.

Did you know that Vaughan make a similar tool. Not well known (as it’s one of many hammers they offer,) but much better made, as you would expect from Vaughan. Choice of glass fibre or wooden handle too.68B26B02-A4A2-44E4-9D75-8F5854CBE085.jpeg
 

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I saw these. Essentially a good idea, but not particularly well done (finish a bit crude) and overpriced for what it was I thought.

Did you know that Vaughan make a similar tool. Not well known (as it’s one of many hammers they offer,) but much better made, as you would expect from Vaughan. Choice of glass fibre or wooden handle too.68B26B02-A4A2-44E4-9D75-8F5854CBE085.jpeg
Nice. I've been wanting to try a 'rip claw' type claw hammer since I first found out they existed (which is not very long ago). The curve on tradition claw hammers can severely limit prying.
 
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Gerber EAB.

Struggled a few times with my Victoriox Cadet wanting to close on my fingers during use, so looking for a locking knife to use at work. Trying the EAB as it's clearly a 'utility' knife, rather than a weapon or tactical whatever.

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I have a slight worry of it opening in my pocket, as it does close as securely as a Victorinox, but guess if it was an issue it would have come up on reviews and forums comments by now.
 

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Nice. I've been wanting to try a 'rip claw' type claw hammer since I first found out they existed (which is not very long ago). The curve on tradition claw hammers can severely limit prying.
I’ve got a few now, Vaughan and Estwing, all rip claw, and definitely a more usable tool.

Maybe you can’t pull such a long nail in one hit, but you can always use a block of wood.

My favourite is probably the Vaughan 20oz. I use this for everything from joinery to property maintenance, and it seems to be almost indestructable. I’ve got a 16oz as well, and a 24oz Estwing, but it’s the 20oz I keep coming back to.

A friend who only seems to have had crappy tools was quite amazed that the claw actually worked by gripping the shank of the nail - he’d never owned a hammer that would do that!
 

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Electrician/Plumber trade show yesterday in sunny Bolton UK. Same organizers as I have posted about previously, so mostly the same tool brands there. Wera, Knipex, CK, Hikoki, Bosch, Milwaukee, Dewalt etc. Wasn't going to bother going this year, but my Mum lives in Bolton, and it's always nice to see Mum.
Nice pics.

Hopefully all trade shows will be up and running this year.
 

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Zerem adjustable wrench. What is this worth? My fathers leftover tools.
 

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pcolbeck

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OK so I replaced all my rubbish sockets and ratchets with new Facom sets (1/4, 3/8ths and 1/2) plus added a second hand Gedore U20 ratchets and a few sockets to make up a complete 1/2 Gedore set. The Facom stuff is really nice and the Gedore is "sturdy". Then on a late night eBay browse I somehow managed to acquire this brand new for 1/3 the list price. Never managed to bag such a good bargain on eBay before. 3/8 locking set with QR-N ratchet. I'm very impressed with it.

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OK so I replaced all my rubbish sockets and ratchets with new Facom sets (1/4, 3/8ths and 1/2) plus added a second hand Gedore U20 ratchets and a few sockets to make up a complete 1/2 Gedore set. The Facom stuff is really nice and the Gedore is "sturdy". Then on a late night eBay browse I somehow managed to acquire this brand new for 1/3 the list price. Never managed to bag such a good bargain on eBay before. 3/8 locking set with QR-N ratchet. I'm very impressed with it.

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Looks like a great deal on the Stahlwille set. I hope you enjoy using it!

With the exception of a couple of ratchets, I haven’t used any of their locking tools. It seems to be a very neat system. I can see why the aerospace guys like it.
 

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Even the plastic case is nice and well designed (for a plastic case, metal would have been nicer). The latches actually have proper hinges unlike some cases.
 

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Also arrived this week was a Gedore 13mm 7UR spanner. I bought it just because as has been pointed out these are the only ones with a European made ratcheting mechanism and I thought that was interesting. It's a really nice spanner but the ratchet in the Facom 440 series ones I have feels a lot smoother.
 

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Even the plastic case is nice and well designed (for a plastic case, metal would have been nicer). The latches actually have proper hinges unlike some cases.
I’m not a great fan of these plastic cases. The only ones I like are the Facom ones, especially the ones that their “Nano” sets come in. Much better made than most, and incredibly well designed.

I only have one Stahlwille metal box. I bought a 1/2” drive set a while ago, and at that time they came in metal boxes as standard. Decent box. I liked it so much I ordered a spare empty box.
 

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^ where are the 'Forum' clamps made, Monte?


(btw: that Bessey clamp above looks like some serious genius stuff... does that gizmo do what I think it does? three directions at once?)
 

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DP5000 TI Mark 2 or DP6000?

not a daily tool, especially at this price point.
 
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