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@epiphany
I hope to put them to use but it might be hard to find screws for them all.

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I could not afford to buy all of them, wish I could have. I did buy two of each though:bounce::D:bounce:

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If your interested in some of these new old stock Gedore screwdrivers go www.gerritse.nl I don't think I bought all them :D
 
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Without any further delay, here's a short report on my trip to Europe and the small amount of tools I brought back home:

The purpose of my trip was not a tool pilgrimage; it was for my honeymoon. :D

I was in Venice for 2 days so I did my research beforehand to find out whether there were any stores I could easily get to from where I was staying. Luckily, there was; however, I failed to note what their business hours were on the weekends. When I got there on Saturday, the store closed in mid afternoon and were closed on Sundays. I was heart-broken :( :lol_hitti I did stumble across a very small hardware store on Sunday, which was also closed, and on the window display was a pair of Mundial and Knipex pliers. I was kicked in the face once again and wasn't even in the mood to take photos of the display. I walked away feeling miserable. :lol_hitti

I was in Istanbul, Turkey as well. I didn't do any research on where I might come across tools, but I fortunately came across an area that sold plumbing and hydraulic related equipment, as well as power generators. This was interesting as stores were lined next to each other on either side of the street, for like 300 meters. The stores sold current, high-quality, name brands. Interestingly, when I saw a customer in a store, it would be a Caucasion man. I walked into one store only because I saw a Mundial banner. Very courteous staff. I had a look at some of the pliers they had on display. Finally, I got my first tool-nutrition. :lol:
I didn't feel comfortable taking pictures, especially because I sensed the boss, suited up in a tie and jacket, observing me as I was the only person in the store, well, with my wife.

Fast forward to my time in Germany. I only had 2 days there, but luckily I had transportation to get me to places. First in order was Bauhaus (the home of the Wisent brand), the Home Depot of Germany, I suppose? Finally, some photos to share:

I thought the selection of hand tools is better when compared to North American home hardware stores like HD, Lowes, Ace, etc.

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I think some of the hammers are supplied by Gedore (?). The orange hand protector for operating those chisels, was straight from Gedore:

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Here's the Matador section:

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Quite cheap when compared to Gedore:

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Just like their website:

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I guess you'd rate these Wisent rebranded Wihas as the "professional" grade ones and the "DIY" grade being the handle style on the far right (the "3K" model).

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My time had to be short here, so I just snagged a Matador stepped tommy bar (picture at the end).

I went to another store, but I dont' remember the name of it, and they didn't allow me to take pictures. They sold hand tools such as Connex. Some German; some Asian imports. The screwdrivers were rebranded "Walter Schröder". I walked out with a nice revolving hole punch. (picture at the end)

Next up was a dedicated tool supplier/retailer (can't disclose store name; agreement between me and store-person):

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Some familiar names Monte has mentioned in the past:

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Wiha is awesome at putting together neat tool-holding solutions, such as this bit-holding screwdriver handle. Hard to explain it in words. Their hex key holder is neat, too.

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The Gedore cart with all the promotional offerings on display:

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I'd like to get that hacksaw one day (everything pictured are made in Sweden):

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I bought a few things from here and pics will be below.

I asked by cousin, who owns the Citroen 2CV (it's nicknamed the "duck" in Germany), to show me his tool collection:

This is for you Monte! :D

Hindustan Everest wrench!
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Darn, I accidentally took some photos in the wrong setting:

Question: Anyone wanna guess what brand that black handled ratchet is?

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An old "LUX" rebranded NWS(?) snap ring pliers. LUX is sold at "OBI", competition for Bauhaus.

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"Format" rebranded hex keys, which he commented as being very durable.

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Old "WGB" wrench; a Felo-made LUX screwdriver; a Rheidco pliers (now part of "Elora"

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"Egona" screwdriver....this Egona?. The green screwdriver is an old Witte "Wittekind".
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Some more miscellaneous:

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A "Weicon" tool that's very similar to a "Jokari". A "Haupa" wire stripper (first time to hear it).

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His vise:

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It's very sturdy, with hardly any play. Very easy to rotate too. I don't think I saw any markings though....or maybe wasn't looking hard enough.

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So, there it is. That's all the pictures I took that are relevant to this forum. :)

Finally, here's the goodies that I brought back home as a souvenir to myself:

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The Belzer nut drivers and the the Bahco Ergo T5 screwdrivers were in the clearance bin where things were marked 2 Euro each. :bounce:

Monte, I finally got the Carolus Rastoflex. :D I've been wanting that for a while! It wasn't on sale or anything, but I just had to. Nice little guy.
 

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Hi Mik
Hows that Bahco ratchet driver? Looks nice :)

Hi Aza,

The Bahco should be the same 45-gear ratcheting mechanism, and made by the same Taiwanese company: Newtools or Hi-Five. There's also the twist grip version as well.

They are sold under the Britool, Facom, Bost, Bahco, KTC, and SEK (Suekage) brands (maybe others too).

I think they're awesome ratcheting screwdrivers. :thumbup:
 

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Thanks for this great post, superautobacs.

I bet your cousin's black-handled ratchet is a Stahlwille. And his vise looks a lot like my dad's broken vise that was made in GDR.

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Are the Bahco files made in Sweden or Portugal?

Have a nice weekend,

Chreese

Edit/PS: Congrats on your new tools! :)
 
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Servus, folks,

maybe Gedore and NWS too... buy them all 4 :D thats the best :D

It's time to adopt a modest way of life so I only ordered a VBW high leverage cutter (along with some other pliers and Stahlwille tools). :drool:

@Chreese, which plier wrenche do you prefer, Knipex or VBW ?

There's nothing I can add to Monte's great message. The VBW/Garant pliers wrench is brand-new, I haven't had a chance to put it to any real use, yet.

@Cantause
Thanks for your input. The Facom toolboxes look nice but I'm not quite sure if the "hooks" which lock the drawer into place when it's closed will hold up well.

@chreese:

nice !!! i like the size markings on the pliers ! have to get the 7" version....

I haven't played with the 7" version but the 10" Garant pliers wrench feels nice in my hands so I bet you can't go wrong with its "smaller brother".

BTW, I stopped by at a local Würth store two weeks ago. Apparently, Würth doesn't sell PZ screwdrivers with striking caps in Austria. I found the screwdrivers to be overpriced, although some of them were on sale and the Würth employee assured me that he couldn't offer a higher discount. The five pieces set (PH and slot), an additional PH 3 and, PZ 1, 2, 3 (without striking caps) should cost almost EUR 150 (with VAT). Too much for me. Maybe the screwdrivers are cheaper in Germany. I might try to find out during one of my next trips to Bavaria.

Regarding levels: BMI also makes nice levels. Sola probably too :)

Yep, Sola is a good choice in my opinion. We (my dad and me) have been using Sola levels for years and can't complain. On one of our levels the vial/bubble got damaged after many years (approx. two decades, I guess) of use. Sola mounted a new one for free, no questions asked, no invoice required.

My Inomic pliers say "made in germany" but it`s the other style with the red /black handles and "MIM" head and not the forged head.

My Wiha VDE Inomic pliers are also marked with "Made in Germany".

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The solution is simple !! Buy 2 tools of everything :)

I think I would have to sell lots of stuff in order to reach that goal. :headscrat That won't happen! ;)

by the way tool box.... since you were looking for another one (? iirc ?)

how about one of these "Made in Austria" ?

I don't know if I want another toolbox because I haven't figured out the appropriate storage solution for my needs, yet.
If I found a good, reasonably priced box, I could be tempted to get it.
What's your opinion on the KLW 03/WSW610-7-2? (KLW promo page 9)
Although Gedore boxes seem to be well made and I think that the "Austrian style" looks nice, I dislike most of them because of their small drawer size.

@dlfiene
Congrats on this great assortment of NOS Gedore screwdrivers! :drool:

@ Chreese:
post some pics of your new jigsaw !! :D :drool::bowdown::drool::bowdown:

Yes, I'll do but right now I don't have enough time to put together an informative post about it.

Quite cheap when compared to Gedore:

Indeed, those swivel head wrenches are surprisingly cheap.
Monte, do you have any experiences with them? They are made in Germany, aren't they? I should travel to a German Bauhaus store, I think.

Garant and PB hex keys:

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Have a nice weekend,

Chreese
 
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@Dennis the Menace:
thanks for the pic !!


@mik641
nice selection !!!


@dlfiene
already received something from germany ? :)


@superautobacs:
cool pics !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for posting !!! (and taking the pics :) !!!! )

ps:
- The "Wisent" chisels say "Carolus Germany" under the sticker :)
- The Matador "double-socket-wrenches" are cheaper than Gedore because i think they`re imported (note the "laser engraving", iirc they also have a different finish...)
- The store with the "Connex" tools was probably "OBI" ? if it was a similar store like Bauhaus.


nice store in the last pics !!! everything on display !! nice !!!! I want to go there now :D

ahhh the infamous Everest wrench !!! :D thanks for the pic !!!!!!!! But it looks better than the tools his brother made in india !!! :D

regarding the ratchet: here my guess: :D

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ps: The vise looks very cool !!!!!!

Your cousin seems to be a serious wrencher ! Only name brand stuff !!! very good !!!! :)
must be in the family ...good genes :D ;) But no french tools ? :) (ps: Format hex keys = Hafu)
Congratulation to your purchases !!!! 2.- ea. for the Belzer nut drivers ???? You seriously **** !!!! :D :D ;) really !! :D ;)
ps: who is that in the "2CV" a.k.a "Ente" ? Your wifey ? :)
 
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already received something from germany ? :)

I am still waiting anxiously on the packages from Germany they could have arrived to the United States but not to my door yet.:(
Hope it will not be to long before they arrive.:)
 

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i think next time in in Austria visiting the family homestead of generations past i'll make a side trip over to germany to explore some more and buy some sweet tools. i may have to bring an extra suitcase though
 

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Servus, metal1313,

I should be able to name a few good sources for quality tools in Austria. Feel free to drop me a PM before your next trip.

Have a nice day,

Chreese
 

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@superautobacs, is your Gedore chisel #106 a new model ? I can't find it in my Gedore catalogue. How much did pay for it ?
 
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It's time to adopt a modest way of life so I only ordered a VBW high leverage cutter (along with some other pliers and Stahlwille tools). :drool:

a modest way of life ?? Cutters, pliers, stahlwille ??? how did that go with "a modest way of life" :D

I haven't played with the 7" version but the 10" Garant pliers wrench feels nice in my hands so I bet you can't go wrong with its "smaller brother".

thats what i think too :)

BTW, I stopped by at a local Würth store two weeks ago. Apparently, Würth doesn't sell PZ screwdrivers with striking caps in Austria. I found the screwdrivers to be overpriced, although some of them were on sale and the Würth employee assured me that he couldn't offer a higher discount. The five pieces set (PH and slot), an additional PH 3 and, PZ 1, 2, 3 (without striking caps) should cost almost EUR 150 (with VAT). Too much for me. Maybe the screwdrivers are cheaper in Germany. I might try to find out during one of my next trips to Bavaria.

mhh no PZ with cap ??:headscrat The 5 pc. sets were on sale here for 39.- ea. 2 times i think and for 29.- once. (+vat) ok still not cheap because of the extra sizes needed but what can i do ....? :)

Yep, Sola is a good choice in my opinion. We (my dad and me) have been using Sola levels for years and can't complain. On one of our levels the vial/bubble got damaged after many years (approx. two decades, I guess) of use. Sola mounted a new one for free, no questions asked, no invoice required.

they say 30 years guarantee on the vial. It seems it´s true :) :thumbup:

I think I would have to sell lots of stuff in order to reach that goal. :headscrat That won't happen! ;).

you almost reached that goal i think.... by looking at your tools....
(or sell your car....:D ;) )

I don't know if I want another toolbox because I haven't figured out the appropriate storage solution for my needs, yet.
If I found a good, reasonably priced box, I could be tempted to get it.
What's your opinion on the KLW 03/WSW610-7-2? (KLW promo page 9)
Although Gedore boxes seem to be well made and I think that the "Austrian style" looks nice, I dislike most of them because of their small drawer size.

Never heard of KLW/Lutz i think. The price is ok though. About what you pay for a Metec serie 60, but larger. They dont say how big the drawers are though. Judging from the size of the box Metec series 64 and 67 have bigger drawers than KLW. So if you look for something bigger... But for the price they seem to be ok if you want to buy new. Used would be another option.

Yes, I'll do but right now I don't have enough time to put together an informative post about it..

just some teaser pics. :) questions about the difference between the red and black saw probably would not occur because of the price level :D

Indeed, those swivel head wrenches are surprisingly cheap.
Monte, do you have any experiences with them? They are made in Germany, aren't they? I should travel to a German Bauhaus store, I think..

i believe they´re imported. The L-shaped socket wrenches (Pfeifenkopfschlüssel) too i think. First i thought from France maybe but i guess Taiwan. Other stuff too, locking pliers, electronic screwdrivers, new torque wrench (KS design), T-handle with universal joint. I think i posted a list here or in the german forum about the import stuff.

Garant and PB hex keys:

sweet !!!!!!!!!!! :pimpflash:drool:
 
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nice NOS Wiha screwdriver from the flea market

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old 1995 Gedore catalog i found for 50 cent :)

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Interesting to see that Bauhaus store picture. I'm sure some of it is just comparable but different, but it's interesting to see things like all the crosspein hammers they have. I'm a huge fan of crosspeins, but most stores here seem to just carry a lot of claw hammers, and a handful of ballpeins.

That also appears to be a very nice selection of wrenches they have. And lots of open stock stuff. Seems that over here the tool section of many stores is rather one-sided towards power tools.

How are prices over there on stuff like Knipex??? What would, say, 86-03-250 pliers wrenches run retail over there (Monte, perhaps you'd know?). Also, are the VBW or Garant versions readily available from retailers???
 

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Thanks for this great post, superautobacs.

I bet your cousin's black-handled ratchet is a Stahlwille. And his vise looks a lot like my dad's broken vise that was made in GDR.


Are the Bahco files made in Sweden or Portugal?

Have a nice weekend,

Chreese

Edit/PS: Congrats on your new tools! :)

Bingo! I guess it wasn't too difficult. Monte, knows everything anyways, so his answer doesn't count. ;) :D :beer:

And I think your father's vise is indeed the same kind. My cousins' vise is an inherited tool so it makes more sense.

The Bahco files are from Portugal.

Have a nice weekend, too!



- The "Wisent" chisels say "Carolus Germany" under the sticker :)

Hrmm, didn't even realize that. Makes sense, since the chisel holder is from Gedore.

- The Matador "double-socket-wrenches" are cheaper than Gedore because i think they`re imported (note the "laser engraving", iirc they also have a different finish...)

Yeah, I was :headscrat when I saw the laser etching on them. It looked cheap to me so I didn't even bother to check the back side to see if "Germany" was even present.

- The store with the "Connex" tools was probably "OBI" ? if it was a similar store like Bauhaus.

Nope. It wasn't OBI. I didn't have enough time to go to the closest OBI.


nice store in the last pics !!! everything on display !! nice !!!! I want to go there now :D

The store's showroom/retail space isn't that big. What you see in the pictures is pretty much what you'll see, minus the order desk. The place had activity, staff packing boxes in the background and others walking up and down the warehouse.

ahhh the infamous Everest wrench !!! :D thanks for the pic !!!!!!!! But it looks better than the tools his brother made in india !!! :D

No problem! It was funny because the first thing I saw, when I opened up his portable tool bag was that!

regarding the ratchet: here my guess: :D

I knew you'd know. :D

ps: The vise looks very cool !!!!!!

Your cousin seems to be a serious wrencher ! Only name brand stuff !!! very good !!!! :)
must be in the family ...good genes :D ;) But no french tools ? :) (ps: Format hex keys = Hafu)

:lol: I should request him to get some French-made tools for his duck. He plans to replace the original frame with a more durable aftermarket one.


Congratulation to your purchases !!!! 2.- ea. for the Belzer nut drivers ???? You seriously **** !!!! :D :D ;) really !! :D ;)
ps: who is that in the "2CV" a.k.a "Ente" ? Your wifey ? :)

I knew I'd get awarded the "you ****" for those. :D
And yes, that's my wifey, who was happy to leave the store. :lol:



@superautobacs, is your Gedore chisel #106 a new model ? I can't find it in my Gedore catalogue. How much did pay for it ?

It was part of Gedore's promotional offer: a combo with the Habero/Gedore Rotband Plus 1.25kg club hammer for 19,95 EUR. I couldn't let that go at that price and I always wanted a Rotband style hammer.



nice NOS Wiha screwdriver from the flea market

old 1995 Gedore catalog i found for 50 cent :)

Wow, those are both nice. :thumbup:

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Also, are the VBW or Garant versions readily available from retailers???

I'm assuming, no, for the VBW items.

Garant is the in-house brand of the Hoffmann Group. So, IIRC, you'll find the Garant items only through Hoffmann.
 

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Wiha = William Hahn My guess would be pronounced WeHa but, I'm stupid.

On another note the store pictures are outstanding!! Why is the engineers hammer so popular in Europe versus say the ball pein hammer?
 
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Wiha = William Hahn My guess would be pronounced WeHa but, I'm stupid.

On another note the store pictures are outstanding!! Why is the engineers hammer so popular in Europe versus say the ball pein hammer?

I've never ever used a ball pein hammer. Guess I don't need it.
 

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Hi Aza,

The Bahco should be the same 45-gear ratcheting mechanism, and made by the same Taiwanese company: Newtools or Hi-Five. There's also the twist grip version as well.

They are sold under the Britool, Facom, Bost, Bahco, KTC, and SEK (Suekage) brands (maybe others too).

I think they're awesome ratcheting screwdrivers. :thumbup:

Thanks for the info :beer:
I have the Facom ratchet, so should be the same then.

Great photos too, I also wished I had a tool place like that near me!
 
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matthew:
Like Superautobacs already wrote the "Garant" tools are only available direct from them or through their dealers. In the meantime you can buy them also through ebay.de and they also opened a Amazon store so also private customers can order them now. They don´t have a store in my city so unfortunately so i have to order everything through mailorder from their catalog.

"VBW" is a common brand here, the regular mechanics pliers however are not very common, you usually see Knipex here.VBW pipe wrenches, water pump pliers and sometimes bolt cutters is what you sometimes see next to Knipex mechanics pliers. Some customers demand VBW and only buy their classic red water pump pliers and pipe wrenches. VBW is a classic plumbers brand and also offers plumbers tools which Knipex don´t offer so thats a reason that you will find them here and the price is slightly lower.

The Knipex 86-03-250 pliers have a 2010 retail list price of 47,55 € + 19% sales tax and the 86-03-250 SB version on "self-service cards" like in the pic is 48,55 € + tax. So thats what you most likely will also pay in the "Bauhaus store" and at most retailers. Wholesalers/industrial supply stores often have lower catalog/list prices, but not always much . For example: Knipex 86-03-250 Store A = 46,85 Store B: 38,89 store C: 38,42 Store D: 39,10 Store E: 39,82 (all prices from the 2009/10 catalogs minus individual discount + tax (tax only for private persons))

@Dennis The Menace
most people seem to be happy with their Wiha bits + screwdrivers. I`m at least happy with mine :) fitment is very good especially Torx.

I looked at youtube if i can find anybody saying "Wiha" but couldn´t find anything but i think its "we-ha" but with a "a" like spoken in oxford english and not american english and you pronounce the "w" more not like in "we" but different.... german.... :D

@superautobacs:
The Matador "double-socket-wrenches dont say "Germany". The finish is also not comparable with other finishes of their lineup so thats always suspicious i think because the question is "why" is it like that ?? IIRC they also say "Chrome Vanadium" which is not always a sign but often that it is foreign...
I thought "OBI" but other stores have "Connex" too, a brand which belongs to the well known "Wurth" company. There is a company in germany who produces stainless steel 2CV frames, but he probably already know: http://www.hoffmann2cv.de/en/p/chassis/rahmen/edelstahlrahmen.jpg
haha i think i can see that she is not smiling while sitting in the car... :D must be boring for her :D



@Fedwrench:
i don´t know good question. Most companies offer ball peen hammers in their catalog though, they`re called "English engineers hammer" here. Never saw them at a home improvement store though, very very seldom at industrial stores. For metal working, tinsmith, goldsmith work a ball peen hammer will be useful, for general mechanic work a engineers hammer will be better i think - with the small thin side of the hammer you can reach into spaces where others dont fit, strike small things without damaging the surrounded areas, stretch sheet metal, restore or make a flange/flare etc.
 
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Wiha = William Hahn My guess would be pronounced WeHa but, I'm stupid.

On another note the store pictures are outstanding!! Why is the engineers hammer so popular in Europe versus say the ball pein hammer?

It's not even about europe, it's about each country, you won't sell a german hammer to a french mechanic and vice versa.

My question; what do you use the spherical end of a ball pein hammer for ?


@superautobacs
Good thing you were married before the 2cv trip, the thing you may not know about that car is that despite its simplistic look, the powertrain and suspension require many special tools.
 

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Ballpein hammers are the normal mechanics hammers over here. The spherical end is for riveting. It is also sometimes useful for concentrating the force of your hammering in small areas. Most of the time people would just use the flat side of the hammer, such as when using punches and chisels and such.

Personally I like engineers hammers (also called blacksmith hammers or crosspein hammers). Particularly when you need to bend something. But there are times ballpein is better, so I'm surprised to hear you guys don't seem to ever use them.

Thanks Monte. Interesting to see the price on that. Pretty comparable to the best online price I've seen in the US, but quite a bit lower than the online place I found in Canada (C$108).
 

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@Maxipouce,

From talking to my cousin, it didn't seem like the car was tricky to work on, but what do I know. The only things I've gathered about the car is from looking at its exterior, interior, and learning how to drive with the unique shifter mechanism during my 15min ride. I thought it was pretty cool that you can simply remove the doors without any tools: open the door and simply raise the doors vertically off the frame rail.


About the different styles of hammers...
How many different patterns are there? off the top of my head, I can think of: English pattern (same as Warrington?), American pattern (claw hammer), Swedish pattern, German pattern, and French pattern. Anything else?



Some tools from Japan:

Keiba radiator pliers

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Kowa PH2 2 component:

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Supertool erection/spud wrench:

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@superautobacs: Amazing journey and great pictures you got there, thank you! Hope you spend enough time in shoe shops to make a compensation to your wife. :bounce:

@Monte: Thanks for the info. Strange behaviour from Matador.

Got some cheap offset double ring wrenches with no name but with "Germany". Any idea if they are fake or a second choice line?


Looks already a little bit rusty :<
 
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That´s right there are different styles and preferences in europe regarding the engineers hammers. In france they look like this:

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"Marteaux rivoir" in french - exact translation would be "riveting hammer" (or something like it :) ) . In germany we call our german pattern engineers hammers "Schlosserhammer" the exact translation is "locksmith hammer". "Engineers hammer" in germany ("Ingenieurshammer") would be a english pattern ball pein hammer.
German pattern hammer are also often called "Machinist hammer" and "Blacksmith hammers".

So there are not only differences in the hammers itself, but also in the names of the hammers.

German pattern "Engineers hammer" DIN 1041

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english pattern ball pein

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english pattern cross pein (Warrington )

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Danish pattern cross peen

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french pattern see above


club hammers:

German pattern:

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dutch pattern:

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spanish pattern:

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Joiners' hammer French pattern

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Blacksmith hammer swedish pattern

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claw hammer american pattern

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claw hammer french pattern

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there are dozens more styles: For example Mason/Bricklayer hammers in different patterns (Munich, Berlin, Rhineland, American, Dutch) http://www.picard-hammer.de/en/werkzeuge-a-z/detail/bt/3/pg/181.html


A good overview of different european hammers you can find here and here or from this spanish manufacturer here or browse through the Facom catalog here or even better take a look at the MOB catalog here (PDF) with even more different hammers ("Marseille pattern" etc.)


@superautobacs:
nice stuff there !!!! I wonder where you found the Kowa screwdriver since it seems that they especially sell their tools to factories direct (like Honda...) or the car dealerships (like Honda ... :) ) !?!?

What for do you need the spud wrench for ? specific task or just for the fun of it :)

The Keiba pliers are nice too !! To greedy to buy a new radiator eh ?? :D ;) :D ;)

for the people who don´t know what they are for:
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@epiphany
i often see these wrenches at the flea market just marked "Germany" and "Chrom Vanadium". I dont know who makes them. Its forbidden to sell a tool without a manufacturers sign or name on them.......
 
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matthew:
@superautobacs:
... There is a company in germany who produces stainless steel 2CV frames, but he probably already know: http://www.hoffmann2cv.de/en/p/chassis/rahmen/edelstahlrahmen.jpg
haha i think i can see that she is not smiling while sitting in the car... :D must be boring for her :D

Thanks. I'll forward the link to him.
She always comments on how spending time with me in tool stores are the most boring shopping experiences she goes through with me. sigh... ;)


The Kowa stuff is available from Webike. I also got a single 12mm wrench from them: a double box, zero offset, one end is 12pt and the other is a 6pt. I've found old "HM" wrenches at pawn shops here (HM = Honda Motorsports) and I think the OEM is Kowa.

The spud wrench is, yes, for the collection. ...but if I had nothing else that'll work, I'll use which ever end the job calls for.

I've done the job in the past, using a combination of either a flat head screwdriver with a pick or some needle nose pliers. Hopefully this'll make the next job easier and less time consuming.


@superautobacs: Amazing journey and great pictures you got there, thank you! Hope you spend enough time in shoe shops to make a compensation to your wife. :bounce:

No problem. I always find it interesting to see 'foreign'/unfamiliar tool store photos.
Her time driving the 2CV made up for it. :D
 

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@epiphany
i often see these wrenches at the flea market just marked "Germany" and "Chrom Vanadium". I dont know who makes them. Its forbidden to sell a tool without a manufacturers sign or name on them.......

Didn't know that. Guess they are pirated items then. Even more if you see them often at flea markets. :shocking:
 

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@Monte: great post. I picked up the Peddinghaus Club hammer as a result of an early post here. The design of that Danish hammer is also great.
 

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OK took pics of my "OLD WORLD" Tools... I have a lot :beer:

First up is one of my favorite, most used tools:
Milwaukee heat gun!

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WTF Milwaukee????

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That's right, made in Germany :) I knew I loved this tool! It heats up INCREDIBLY fast and VERY hot!

Some Wire/Cable strippers!

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I always thought Phoenix Contact made the best tools until I found out they are all rebranded. Maybe some of you can help me identify OEM ??

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Now onto some cutters... I do not know the OEM of these... NWS Perhaps??

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Crimpers

Ferrule Crimpers from Rennsteig/Knipex

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L-R Phoenix Contact (Knipex Made) Turned Contact crimpers, Knipex Uninsulated contact Crimpers, Phoenix Contact (Pressmaster/Swiss made) Insulated contact crimpers, and unknown OEM Large Ferrule crimpers

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Some more crimpers!!

Top: Thomas & Betts large lug crimpers (Made by Pressmaster/Sweden)
Middle/Bottom: Molex Pin Crimpers

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Cutters/pliers.... Phoenix Contact help w/ OEM?? NWS??

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Knipex Pliers/Cutters

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These ones are neat, trimming back wires in places where the cut-offs cannot fall (inside motor housings and so forth)... this head retains the cut-offs.

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Here is my array of Swiss-made cutters... I don't think I've seen anyone on the board with these... the brand is Erem - made in Sweden but owned by Cooper tools. Don't be fooled by their sister brand Excelite (which is utter ****) These Erems are the REAL DEAL... best small size wire cutters on the planet.. even better than Knipex

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And now my Obligatory WERA stuffs :beer:

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Handy 3-6NM torque wrench rebranded for Phoenix Contact

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This is the siemens breaker/contactor termination set. Plus/Minus #2 bits, 1/4" bitholder on the 3/8" zyklop and the same bit in the Torque wrench. I used to use a Proto screwdriver-type torque wrench but it gave me too many wrist problems (especially when you torque 30-40 breaker/contactor pairs each 3phase :( )

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Obligatory bit sets :)

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Some more stuff...

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WTF Snap On???

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This is an amazingly well-made wrench, I believe it's made by Bahco.... so nice in the hand and these serrations are great on the jaws

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Driver Drawers :beer: Torx, MagicRing Hex, Insulated Wera, Precision Wiha, Nutdrivers

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Some more Wera/Wiha screwdrivers

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These Wera stainless screwdrivers with the laser etched tips are my new go-to screwdrivers, especially for Philips screws... they grip and fit very nicely

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Miscellaneous stuffs

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Volkel Metric drill/tap set

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Wiha Deadblows

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Festool Trion Jigsaw

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Proxxon 1/8" rotary tool

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Handy Portable :)

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Made in Ireland

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Thanks for looking!!!

Casey
 

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@ caseyjw: What is the model number on that Milwaukee heat gun?

Nice tools!! I enjoyed the pictures...
 

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Nice collection of tools Casey, and great pics :)
The Phoenix stuff does seem to be NWS.
 
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