Tools from the old world

[jmf535]

This confirms it for me. Amazon . de (often) sells Hazet factory seconds!! Read the amazon de comments. Myself, twice I have bought stuff from them which I have had to warranty (Hazet support obliged and replaced them FOC), while everything else Hazet I have bought from a local dealer or small German eshops has been flawless, both in function and cosmetically.

I think you may be right. I was a little hesitant to drop that much cash on the Hazet stuff- from another country- when a lot of the reviews were extremely negative. But, given that it was less than half the cost of it in the US, I figured it was worth the gamble.

At the same time, I figured that they were less that half the cost for a reason...factory seconds would explain it. They were even significantly cheaper than all the other European websites that I looked at.

But, in the end, if a little cosmetic blemish is all that is wrong with them (bit set is flawless), I'll gladly take it, and the extra $100+ that I saved.

 

[Monte]

Bahco "BH8AC2-500" engine stand

 

[Qualitytools]

Bahco "BH8AC2-500" engine stand

Very nice Monte, the main handle reminds me of my AC Hydraulic jack handle.

 

[Vicks]

Bahco "BH8AC2-500" engine stand

Cool ! Never seen one of those, looks like a well built unit.

 

[Vicks]

Bought a couple of these knives recently, I collect knives (amateur) and also like to gift good quality ones to my like minded friends.


Both the knife and sheath are made in Sweden


Recently found this Made in France Stanley saw, one of the few items on which Stanley put COO nowadays. Most items they just mention Stanley office addresses so I assume they must all be of China/Taiwan ese origin.


I use this for my hobby/amateur woodworking projects at home

 

[Vicks]

Countersink bits, primarily used for wood and aluminum, they don’t “feel” hard enough for use on mild steel and other harder alloys…

 

[garfieldzzz]

As Hoffmann group sadly changed their supplier for ratchets and sockets in their Garant line the Stahlwille made items were on clear out sale, from 1€ a socket I stepped up my 1/2 set from Proxxon to Garant and some gaps filled with Stahlwille.

Now I got 10-36 with a few missing but 21-32 as well in 12pt plus allen keys from 5-19 and 5-12 in long version.

More to come too.

I just noticed that they extended the clearance on these items.

 

[garfieldzzz]

The rest of my 1/2 order arrived. Including a unicorn, Stahlwille 517QR.

 

[Vicks]

My first Osca purchases and hopefully more to come depending how these turn out in terms of quality and durability.

600gm Osca hatchet, nice handle with just the right amount of curve for holding at the end and closer at the neck. Laser markings might get worn out with use.


The hatchet edge is rough ground and not sharp finished like some other reputed makers but that won’t bother me as I will put an edge on it later.


340gm Osca ball pein hammer


The forging die marks are left unfinished (two circular marks) so I guess Osca doesn’t pay much attention to final finishing, again it’s not something that bothers me is the product is durable.


The little hammer has quite a long handle for its weight or maybe that IS the point ? Longer handle for a lighter hammer ? I’m not an expert at hammers and handles haha..


Finally another addition to the Knipex collection

 

[mvcorse]

I am so confused. Isn't this thread all about "tools from the old world"?

 

[Outahere]

I am so confused. Isn't this thread all about "tools from the old world"?

The first sentence in post #1 of this thread is:
This thread is for all tools "from the old world" like tools from Europe, but you can also post all tools from outside the USA here.

 

[Qualitytools]

I am so confused. Isn't this thread all about "tools from the old world"?

What is confusing you about this thread?

 

[mvcorse]

What is confusing you about this thread?

I thought it's all about old world tools.

The first sentence in post #1 of this thread is:
This thread is for all tools "from the old world" like tools from Europe, but you can also post all tools from outside the USA here.

Now things are clear.

 

[Qualitytools]

There are other threads that are geared towards vintage tools, perhaps that might be of interest

 

[Dave455]

I am so confused. Isn't this thread all about "tools from the old world"?

I don’t know what your first language is, but the terminology could be confusing,

When America was first settled, it was often referred to as “The New World”. By extension, the original countries that the settlers came from was “The Old World”, hence the title of the thread.

”New World” always means America, “Old World” can mean Europe (geographical location) or a bygone era (timeframe). Native speakers refer to “THE Old World” meaning the place, and often use old English spelling “Olde Worlde“ to denote the timeframe. Often they use another term to avoid confusion, but in this instance it’s perfectly apt!

 

[Outahere]

Is China "Old World" ?

 

[mvcorse]

I don’t know what your first language is, but the terminology could be confusing,

When America was first settled, it was often referred to as “The New World”. By extension, the original countries that the settlers came from was “The Old World”, hence the title of the thread.

”New World” always means America, “Old World” can mean Europe (geographical location) or a bygone era (timeframe). Native speakers refer to “THE Old World” meaning the place, and often use old English spelling “Olde Worlde“ to denote the timeframe. Often they use another term to avoid confusion, but in this instance it’s perfectly apt!

Since English is not my native language, I simply comprehend "The Old World" as "vintage" and didn't go into the meaning seriously. Thanks for your explanation and I finally understand what's all about
Many thanks for your kind and warm help.

 

[Woody1320]

Realized these belonged in this thread. This is a set of Oxwall linesman pliers. Can't remember where I got them. But they're marked "Made in Germany". I haven't used them for much, but they seem adequate at the very least (especially after learning that Oxwall isn't necessarily a quality brand).

 

[four.cycle]

Oxwall's U.S. made products left much to be desired.
The product they were importing from Germany after WWII isn't bad stuff. Some of it is actually fairly good quality.

 

[Woody1320]

Oxwall's U.S. made products left much to be desired.
The product they were importing from Germany after WWII isn't bad stuff. Some of it is actually fairly good quality.

Seems to be the case for these pliers. They're a bit worn, but they feel very hefty mass-wise. And the opening and closing action is still smooth. I plan on putting together a small road box in the future. These will absolutely be included.

 

[Vicks]

I’ve been wanting to buy a soft faced hammer and although I have a smaller 25mm one, I wanted to buy the Halder Simplex 40. After a bit of research I found that Wurth sells the Simplex 40 under their brand name but I was shocked at their prices when I went to the local Wurth store to check it out. So I ended up buying only this nice sprayer which also works when held sideways and even upside down, thanks to a flexible hose inside.




I then ordered the Simplex 40 from Amazon which was 15€ cheaper than Wurth, delivered all the way from UK !! I like the size, heft and multi component heads in this one.


While ordering the Simplex40 I went ahead and threw in a Jokari wire stripper to the shopping basket because the Knipex multi wire stripping tool I have is not good for small wire sizes say 0.5sqmm




I found these Knipex cobras on discount from a local supplier and just had to buy one. But the thing is I already have a Cobra 250mm !! Well, this being GJ I don’t think anyone is going to complain and yes, i numbered them - just like how some parents mark identical twins to be able to tell them apart...


The last Osca ball pein hammer and 600gms hatchet I bought look like good products in my limited usage so I went ahead and bought a 2kg engineers hammer.


It has the composite handle with an Aluminium shaft with a nice rubberized handle grip. This is the first hammer with such technology that I have ever owned so I’m curious as to how it compares to all the other “regular” wood handles ones …



Wera bit set.. the good thing is the 50mm magnetic bit holder in this set works well with the other Wera Rapidadaptor handle that I have and there are multiple bits of each size with only a Torx 35 being skipped.

 

[CGarage]

On the Facom restoration:

What did you use for the wash and how did you polish them? Looks great!

 

[CGarage]

Very nice!

The old SAM stuff was superb. No fancy finishes, but very rugged.

I would be very surprised if those sockets were anything other than French made.

SAM were a very big contractor to the French government. Many French army tools are SAM.

I’m not aware of any relationship between SAM and FACOM. Some of the tools look similar, but I think that’s because they were both making tools to similar patterns, and the same standards.

I have a SAM catalog here.....It seems to me that they were more focused on industrial customers where Facom had a specialized with more automotive based specialty tools. I know that this is over simplifying things as Facom has always been huge in industry tools and transportation tools, like for rail and aviation use. But, based on vintage catalogs, it seems SAM was focused entirely on industry.

 

[mvcorse]

On the Facom restoration:

What did you use for the wash and how did you polish them? Looks great!

Just sandpapers, my friend.
I use polish compond after paint job.

 

[CGarage]

Just sandpapers, my friend.
I use polish compond after paint job.

Applied polish compound using a buffing wheel? Looks excellent, really nice job

 

[silkman]

I’ve been wanting to buy a soft faced hammer and although I have a smaller 25mm one, I wanted to buy the Halder Simplex 40. After a bit of research I found that Wurth sells the Simplex 40 under their brand name but I was shocked at their prices when I went to the local Wurth store to check it out. So I ended up buying only this nice sprayer which also works when held sideways and even upside down, thanks to a flexible hose inside.




I then ordered the Simplex 40 from Amazon which was 15€ cheaper than Wurth, delivered all the way from UK !! I like the size, heft and multi component heads in this one.


While ordering the Simplex40 I went ahead and threw in a Jokari wire stripper to the shopping basket because the Knipex multi wire stripping tool I have is not good for small wire sizes say 0.5sqmm




I found these Knipex cobras on discount from a local supplier and just had to buy one. But the thing is I already have a Cobra 250mm !! Well, this being GJ I don’t think anyone is going to complain and yes, i numbered them - just like how some parents mark identical twins to be able to tell them apart...


The last Osca ball pein hammer and 600gms hatchet I bought look like good products in my limited usage so I went ahead and bought a 2kg engineers hammer.


It has the composite handle with an Aluminium shaft with a nice rubberized handle grip. This is the first hammer with such technology that I have ever owned so I’m curious as to how it compares to all the other “regular” wood handles ones …



Wera bit set.. the good thing is the 50mm magnetic bit holder in this set works well with the other Wera Rapidadaptor handle that I have and there are multiple bits of each size with only a Torx 35 being skipped.

Christmas came early for you my friend. How much was the 250mm Cobra? Last one I got for 22eur.

 

[Vicks]

Christmas came early for you my friend. How much was the 250mm Cobra? Last one I got for 22eur.

The first 250mm Cobra i bought for the equivalent of 31.5US$ from a local hardware store and the second i bought for 22US$ from a local online tool store so yeah, its not lower than what you pay in US/EU but considering that everything is 20-40% expensive here in Dubai, i'm happy to pay global standard prices LoL

 

[jmf535]

I have a question for all the Hazet users here:

I'm thinking about purchasing the 953HP 1/4 & 1/2 set, but I have a concerned regarding the 1/4 ratchet.
I recently picked up the 1/4 bit drive Smart Case and the back drag on the ratchet is extremely high...is the back drag on the standard 1/4 ratchet the same?

 

[Dave455]

I have a question for all the Hazet users here:

I'm thinking about purchasing the 953HP 1/4 & 1/2 set, but I have a concerned regarding the 1/4 ratchet.
I recently picked up the 1/4 bit drive Smart Case and the back drag on the ratchet is extremely high...is the back drag on the standard 1/4 ratchet the same?

Can’t help you with regard to the HiPer ratchet, but if you have concerns you can pick up the 953SPC set with older style ratchet.

I know that fine tooth ratchets are very much in vogue at present, but I’m not convinced it makes a huge difference on the smaller ratchets, and the very fine teeth can have problems of their own in the smaller sizes.

I was a relatively late convert to Hazet 1/4” drive, but I’ve found the conventional 863P ratchet (and all it’s relations) to be beautifully smooth. Definitely one of my favourites!

 

[silkman]

I have a question for all the Hazet users here:

I'm thinking about purchasing the 953HP 1/4 & 1/2 set, but I have a concerned regarding the 1/4 ratchet.
I recently picked up the 1/4 bit drive Smart Case and the back drag on the ratchet is extremely high...is the back drag on the standard 1/4 ratchet the same?

I have the HP set. The backdrag isn't noticeable in the 1/4 ratchet, especially as its so short. However, I don't have the Hazet bit ratchet to compare, the wera all metal bit ratchet has huge backdrag, yes.

I very much doubt anyone has been disappointed by the 953HP set.

 

[garfieldzzz]

I think it has a reasonable to low backdrag compared to a 30t, have one in my work toolbox as an additional one. I would buy it and being not too worried.
I think especially on the small ones toothcount is important as most of the smalish things are also fiddely.

 

[spanimal]

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I have used a lot of 1/2 inch battery impacts. Nothing has the indestructible feel of this unit.

It's been thrown into mud, stood in torrential rainfall, and I doubt I would ever need to do anything other than replace the brushes.

I have used these brushless, and impressed by the size of the Milwaukee mid torque. But all feel like cheap toys compared to this unit.

German engineering, Made in USA tough.

Edit. Yes I know there is a cheapie chrome socket on it...but thin wall wheel sockets feel like a con to me. I use regular chrome when impact sockets are too thick.

 

[jmf535]

I have the HP set. The backdrag isn't noticeable in the 1/4 ratchet, especially as its so short. However, I don't have the Hazet bit ratchet to compare, the wera all metal bit ratchet has huge backdrag, yes.

I very much doubt anyone has been disappointed by the 953HP set.

Where did you purchase your HP set from? I'm looking on Amazon US/De and the reviews seem to be a mixed bag regarding quality, and the if 1/4 ratchet is actually the HP

I already have a 916hp, so I'm thinking that maybe I should just buy the SP set, and pickup the 863hp separately?

 

[Spongebob89]

Hello,
does anyone knows what has inside this FACOM case? I write the code Facom DM.35MJ1 & FACOM 503195 on the internet but I didn't find something.

 

[upgrading]

I found this discontinued item

Facom DM.35MJ1 Composition de raccord pour dm.35

Facom DM.35MJ1 Composition de raccord pour dm.35 sur Materiel Electrique et Appareillage - Vente en ligne de matériel électrique, éclairage, domotique, chauffage, etc. Découvrez les plus grandes marques : Legrand, Schneider, Delta Dore, Somfy, Thermor, Netatmo...

www-materielelectrique-com.translate.goog

 

[mvcorse]

 

[Spongebob89]

Do you know what was the price of it back then? Also, If anyone has the catalogue (in English version) where includes this case "DM.35MJ1", please could uploaded or give me a link to downloaded?

 

[mvcorse]

Do you know what was the price of it back then? Also, If anyone has the catalogue (in English version) where includes this case "DM.35MJ1", please could uploaded or give me a link to downloaded?

I've no idea how much was it since your set should be the 1990s' version.

 

[F-22]

I then ordered the Simplex 40 from Amazon which was 15€ cheaper than Wurth, delivered all the way from UK !! I like the size, heft and multi component heads in this one.

I need a copper mallet and we have the simplex at work, but I wonder how these compare to e.g. the PB Swiss dead blow mallet.

 

[Spongebob89]

Hi, I found the below tool trolley in a scrapyard and I bought it next to nothing but is missing the drawer’s lock. Facom sells the locker as a spare or can I fit another lock? Any ideas?