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Aquamoose

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All paid-for cutters have been distributed. I have two cutters available and I'm currently reaching out to the following on the "Purple" list...

317 - Mindedc
82 - pwhittle

As some of you were aware, the Port had a "soft strike", forcing the shipment to Long Beach to be freighted up via train to Seattle. If that never happened, I would have been out ahead with the fees but unfortunately, it cost me more. The original fee was $18.80 ea. based on 120 cutters ordered. This was factored in the price of the cutters. If it wasn't for the "soft strike", the fee would have gone down to $18.58 ea. but instead, it has gone up to $20.17 ea. This puts me about $274 in the red. Some of you have anted up extras and fortunately, it basically took care of that which is a good thing.



FINAL UPDATE: 7/24/15

Original figures based on 120 cutters -

$30.00______ISF (Importer security filing)
$50.00______ISF Bond
$175.00_____THC (Terminal handling charge)
$95.00______Clearance (Entry)
$65.00______Handling
$110.00_____Bond (based on 120 pcs)
$810.00_____Duty (like tariff, based on machines that cuts metal)
$920.00____Delivery
$2230 total (based on 120 - $18.80 ea)

Final figures based on 200 cutters -

$30.00______ISF (Importer security filing)
$50.00______ISF Bond
$150.00_____THC (Terminal handling charge)
$95.00______Clearance (Entry)
$50.00______Handling
$110.00_____Bond (based on 120 pcs)
$1628.00____Duty (like tariff, based on machines that cuts metal)
$342.20_____Ocean fee
$85.00______Entry fee
$25.00______Courier
$75.00______Handling charge
$48.44______Chassis rental fee
$24.22______Clean truck fee
$60.55______Pier pass charge
$25.00______Port Security Charge
$84.77______Exam fee (x-ray)

$1150.00____Delivery
$4033.18 total (based on 200 - $20.17 ea)


I hope everyone were satisfied with their cutters. I wished I had more time dedicated to ship them out in a more timely manner, for that I apologize.

I will continue to maintain [email protected] for warranty issues & questions, all documents are boxed up with the warranty cutters & parts in a wooden case. They are now residing at a spot in my shop. (think Indiana Jones - Raiders of the lost Ark style)

(fade to black...)


Important & supplemental information about the cutter

I finally had the chance to go over the cutter itself and came across some stuff which I thought I'd share with you all before receiving it. The instructions weren't clear on some things and can be a little confusing. But I have to say, it's written much better than other Chinese stuff.

A few pics:

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When I opened mine, I discovered that some screws were loose so I proceeded to go over it closely to see what needs more attention and I found a few things. Your cutter may be in better shape but it can't hurt to go over it just to make sure.

For starters, here's what I did.

Take off the cover by removing the 5 screws on each side.

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Tighten the power cable grommet at the rear by holding the nut on the inside. (no pics)
Inspect the components for any loose connections (mine was fine)
Tighten the screws that hold the forward circuit board from the bottom (it was loose)

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Tighten the rubber feets but not too much (it was slightly too loose)

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Checked the orange hose connection & routing to the front gauge & replaced the cover.

At this point, I proceeded to install the regulator. DO keep in mind that you'll only need one of the barb fitting and install your choice of male air connector on the inlet so get one.

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I used plumber's pipe thread sealant that comes in a small tube. I highly recommend it because it just works better. You'll find that the black 90° fitting that's supplied with the regulator will appear to be quite loose when screwed on. The sealant takes care of that. Note that the instructions made no mention of this orange tube.

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Next, I didn't like the excess orange tubing so I cut it off shorter.

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It went together fine but noticed that I MAY modify the air supply line from the regulator to the cutter by installing two 90° fittings to sharpen things up rather than have it stick out like the way it is now.

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Next is what I found. Not too good but not the end of the world...

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I took the switch trigger back off to rework it and discovered that the connector was of poor construction so please be careful installing it. It works fine but I may replace it later. The connector end where the wires are soldered to have very find threads and it easily got stripped. The left end of the connector body (strain relief) doesn't even clamp on the cable.

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So proceed carefully. I dressed it up with a single wire tie to finish off the front.

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Finally, it took me a while to brainstorm about the electrical connection. I was at my local farm / ranch store (North 40 Outfitter, which is a balls-to-the-wall guy store!) and noticed their 230vac Hobart welders that used a 3 pronged 50a connector so I decided that this is the way to go since eventually I'll get a larger MIG welder and want the same electrical plug for the welding area.

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Now this brings up a problem (at least for me), the plug already comes with a large hole and an internal clamp to hold the cable in and personally, it looks crappy so I came up with a creative solution! Here's what I did...

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The connector was something I've had before and it's a specialized strain relief connector that's also designed to be waterproof. I did pick up a similar item from Home Depot that you can use just as well (if you don't mind the gray) It's designed to fit in a 1" hole. You don't need the nut & rubber seal.

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And it's installed like this:

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And voila!

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I see a delivery charge but that seems to be to you. Do you have an estimate on a charge to like LA, to NY, to Miami and therefore others should all be less if in the US?
Just so we have a total estimate.
 
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I see a delivery charge but that seems to be to you. Do you have an estimate on a charge to like LA, to NY, to Miami and therefore others should all be less if in the US?
Just so we have a total estimate.

Added this question to the FAQ's. Good question, thanks!
 

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Anyone in alberta willing to bring mine up with theirs? I don't know how it would go at the border as I can't cross and don't know the rules re: duties etc.
Thanks,

Richard
 

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Maybe a mass PM or email to folks on the list who might not be aware of the short time frame?
 

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Is the price based on a guess (120) of how many ordered or is it set? As of yesterday you are at about 30% ordered of 279 on the list. What i'm getting at is, is there a better price if more people order? Say a certain number (200) = additional discount and so on... I thought thats how group buys work?

This is a lot of time/work for you and the kids, how are you making money on this? Just if people send extra $ or what?

I'm not trying to start anything, just curious is all....in this time we live, its hard to believe somebody doing this for nothing and just helping others.

I think i'm in. I'll send an email.
 

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Heads up, there's still a 5 vs 10 cups error in the 1st post. I understand that it is 5. And you might want to add "to Spokane" after the word shipping to avoid confusion about the separate shipping to our various locations. I'm off to send the email.

Thanks for all the hard work,
Signed #256 :)
...With the final figures in, we now know the totals...

$192.80____Plasma Cut 50F (Includes cutter, shipping to Spokane, all fees)
$7.50______Consumable kit (10 tips, 10 electrodes)
$2.50______Cups (5 total) (erred in putting up 10, I apologize)...



...Put in your request for the following and quantity in the body of the e-mail. Example would be:

1 unit - Plasma Cut 50F
2 kits - Consumables (each kit includes 10 tips & 10 electrodes) *This example totals 20 tips / 20 consumables*
1 kit - Cups (each kit includes 10 cups)

Shipping from Spokane, WA to you is based on your ship-to address and will be individually calculated to each invoice I send out to you.
 

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As a though, 2 sets of consumables would add $20 to the total. Roughly $35 for the shipping and $195 for the unit. That brings us to $250 plus or minus delivered.
 

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Do we know if the consumables and cups are commonly available, or are they made of unobtainium?
 
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Is the price based on a guess (120) of how many ordered or is it set? As of yesterday you are at about 30% ordered of 279 on the list. What i'm getting at is, is there a better price if more people order? Say a certain number (200) = additional discount and so on... I thought thats how group buys work?

That's the idea of getting a quote for 120 units. When there's more numbers, incentives are a combination of lower cost per unit, more spare parts, lower fees overall since some of the fees are fixed.

I'll have a running total units ordered by the end of today.


This is a lot of time/work for you and the kids, how are you making money on this? Just if people send extra $ or what?

I'm not trying to start anything, just curious is all....in this time we live, its hard to believe somebody doing this for nothing and just helping others.

I think i'm in. I'll send an email.

I'm not. It's one of those challenges that I decided to take up on. Plus, I couldn't let this deal fall through since I want a powerful plasma cutter to put in my shop. Too many times I've wished for one at that size but it meant $$$.

In my quiet corner of Deer Park, WA, folks help out one another and my family has been fortunate to be blessed with great friends and a great community. As the saying goes, pay it forward!

Plus, I want that plasma cutter. Did I mention that already? :)
 
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Do we know if the consumables and cups are commonly available, or are they made of unobtainium?

As I'm told (and seen on postings), they are commonly available provided that you get the correct ones. The manufacturer sells in bulk so I'll have some on hand for members to re-order until they run out then you'd have to go thru eBay for more. Hopefully it's on the honor system so folks won't buy them cheap then resell them. :dunno:
 

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bump;
Anyone in alberta willing to bring mine up with theirs? I don't know how it would go at the border as I can't cross and don't know the rules re: duties etc.
Thanks,

Richard
 

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Anyone in the Puyallup area? If enough, I'd be willing to drive over on a Saturday to pickup, then there would be no shipping charge ... just a few bucks for gas.
 

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Aquamoose, your list says You have recieved my email. Have you invoiced me yet? Ive been keeping an eye out, but I want to make sure I didnt miss or delete your email
 

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Aquamoose, your list says You have recieved my email. Have you invoiced me yet? Ive been keeping an eye out, but I want to make sure I didnt miss or delete your email

Keep your eye on post 2 of this thread. He created a legend of status. By the looks of it, he hasn't invoiced anyone quite yet. Once he does invoice, your user name will be in bold and colored blue.
I'd reccomend placing his email in your contacts as well to help avoid your email client from sending to junk or spam box.
Hopefully this helps :D
 
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Just did a significant update - Please check the list and contact me if something is not right.

PLEASE, please, please... use your place number and user name when corresponding with me via e-mail in the subject header. I've had a good number of folks who made my job difficult linking up with their user names while invoicing since 4 this afternoon. If you're new, just state "NEW" in place of the numbers.

Example: 124 - Aquamoose

Have a good night & good Monday! (Except for those that got tomorrow off, may you car get "pigeoned" on the way to work on Tuesday)

Sean
 
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"$192.80____Plasma Cut 50F (Includes cutter, shipping, all fees)"

Now there is an almost $40 shipping charge on top of this price that already included shipping? Thought this was supposed to be $200 shipped price range?

Kevin
 

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"$192.80____Plasma Cut 50F (Includes cutter, shipping, all fees)"

Now there is an almost $40 shipping charge on top of this price that already included shipping? Thought this was supposed to be $200 shipped price range?

Kevin
The "shipping and all fees" is referring to getting into the U.S. I believe
 

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Invoiced and paid! However I didn't add the extra $5 for the warranty extension as I couldn't figure it out, too early in the morning..Lol
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I thought that was "shipping and all fees". The other thread was talking about possible $10 shipping and coming in at or under $200 shipped. Now we are up to $240 shipped. Still a good deal just a 20% increase from original estimates.

Kevin
 
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