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I had to go out to the shop at almost midnight to look in my box. Yes, it has the two hooks. My first guess is to hold a level. nah, not wide enough for a level. Hmmm. ??
 
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Are the two hooks to hold the framing square? Keep it from wandering away from vertical (The awkward part)?

oops, guess I should pay attention to the catalog I linked, it says clips to hold level. NVM
 
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Based on my Kennedy carpenter’s box, I think it is to hold the level but my hooks are kind of bent in. If the framing square doesn’t sit on the bottom of the box it would really stick out the cover.
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Based on my Kennedy carpenter’s box, I think it is to hold the level but my hooks are kind of bent in. If the framing square doesn’t sit on the bottom of the box it would really stick out the cover.
-Don
Looking at the pics, I think the square needs to go under the hooks, probably get put in first, then the level on top of it. Some sort of gyrations must be in order. I have a Dayton flat top box (hole not opened, so not trying it), and I think the square gets put into the lid, then the lid closed, sliding the square down the front of the box after closed. I can't tell on Don's how it works, does the front flap flip open?
 

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The Carpenter's Tool Chest #1532 seems to have been made up to the SK Wayne era. There were listings for it in all the large SK catalogs from 1943 up to 1961.
 

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ITCL seemed to be having some glitches, but they seem better now. I found a few that weren't working in other threads, but are fine now.
 

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I have a slightly older version of the carpenter's box, with leather handles and the SK decal. It no longer has the masonite bottom, or the saw holding block of wood, but it does hold a lot of saws.

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So, yours looks different from Don’s posted up thread. Yours is what I suspect is the norm, where the square pokes out a hole, not a slot. Have you tried putting one in there?

Don, is yours a slot, or did I mis see that?
 

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Funny you should ask. I have not tried, but have always thought it would be difficult. I suspect that is why someone cut the slot into a notch on Don's box. Do you suppose that "somebody" may have been the factory?

I found mine at an auction in Iowa over thirty years ago and paid $3 for it. Right after the purchase, a woman came up and said her husband asked her to buy the box... I just shrugged. :dunno: Those auctions happened weekly in a large building outside of Iowa City. People would bring in their stuff and lay it out on long rows of tables and auctioneers would move down the rows until it was all sold. They would start off with the larger items and then let people bid for their choice of what was left, so you did not know whether you and your competition were bidding on the same item! After that, they would let people bid on the remains of each particular lot. It was a lot of fun.

I'll go back up and pull the box out again to try fitting a square through the hole, but I was surprised at how short the slot was when I just had it out. I've always thought that was a weird design. I'd rather toss the square under the box, or something, instead of having it poke up like that. They're cool boxes though.
 
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So, yours looks different from Don’s posted up thread. Yours is what I suspect is the norm, where the square pokes out a hole, not a slot. Have you tried putting one in there?

Don, is yours a slot, or did I mis see that?
I believe that a slot is what was intended by the factory but since the slot makes it more difficult to put the square back in the box, a notch was a simple solution by the end users for ease of operation. My Kennedy carpenter’s box also had a notch which was less than attractive so I riveted in a patch. I didn’t intend to keep my square in it.
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I have a slightly older version of the carpenter's box, with leather handles and the SK decal. It no longer has the masonite bottom, or the saw holding block of wood, but it does hold a lot of saws.



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I like your use of the carpenter's box Mintgrun!
 

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Thank you. I've stopped bringing hand saws home, since the storage box is full. That hacksaw missing the handle slabs is a PROTO that deserves to have new ones made for it; although the chrome plating is pretty trashed. A few of those saws have broken handles, but I figured I might make use of the steel. There are a couple nice examples in there... but they're not S-K. ;)
 

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A while back, I posted about a mostly complete SK 1/4" set I'd found, in a home made wooden box. Our GS host bmwrd0 sent me a spinner and a small box to complete the set in exchange for other goodies. The box he sent was less than pristine, by his admission, so it needed a little cleanup. To protect it's homeliness, neither he nor I took any before pictures. IT was dented, bent, rusty and had lost most of its exterior paint. I spent some time on and off straightening it up, taking the bow out of the lid and bottom, using adjustable wrenches to smooth the side rails, couple of taps on the ASO to square up the corners. Degreased in SG, little dip in Evaporust to help with one corner that would not yield the rust, some sanding and other abrasive methods, removing all the paint that seemed inclined to come off, then started to paint it. [BTW, I hate spray can paint, and I think it's mutual.]

I planned on following the regimen of black wrinkle paint on the base coat, then top coat it with the Signal Corp green from Midwest Military. The VHT paint suggested a warm day would work best, so I had to wait a while for an 80° day with sun, a rarity in my corner of the world. Read the directions, 3 heavy coats at 5 minute intervals, feel free to overcoat it you don't get enough wrinkling. Sprayed on 3 coats, horizontal, vertical, and angled, and a few minutes after, noticed I was getting wrinkled paint, but irregular wrinkles. So I went back, and tried to recoat between the wrinkled area, got nothing new to wrinkle. And the base paint that I had not completely removed was starting to peel at the edges. Argh. I was hoping to do a wrinkled exterior, and smooth interior, so I let it go, and moved on to the SC green overpaint. I was kinda surprised there were no directions on the can, or easily available on line to tell me recoat time, but since I wanted wrinkles, I didn't much care.

The green went on easy, the first coat was quite thin, but built quickly. Unfortunately, the texture and lack thereof from the VHT seemed to telegraph through the SC green, giving a less than pleasing final product. But it is head and shoulders above where it was when I got it. So, I am punting for now, unless another sunny warm weekend pops up, when I may try a quick sand and repaint. But the tools are off the bench, out of the hokey wooden box, and look quite at home in their new digs. Thanks again to bmwrd0 for the box and spinner, it looks nice and full in the box.

Did I mention I hate spray can paint?

The box will now go live in the larger SK box I have, after the paint has a had a bit more time to cure.

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Dang, so I can only work a few days in October it seems. Better start sanding up my other box for the next warm spell to come along.

Do you have problems like the lid shows, decent wrinkles right next to no wrinkles?
 

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Hair dryers or heat guns help generate/control wrinkling.

The trickiest part for me was getting it applied evenly around the inside corners of the box. Next time I might try making a stencil to control it. Trying to get paint into the corners led to too much applied to the vertical sides and that ran down into the corners and left unwrinkled shadows on the flats. That happened with this example, which is off-brand for this thread and the box wasn't originally wrinkle coat paint, but I'll indulge in sharing photos, since the topic's come up again.

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I laid it on so heavy that it created an outline around the raised lettering!

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Thanks for sharing Tom. I was afraid of the shadowing in the corners, so I went for the inside smooth look. I am hoping to get better with an airbrush to help with that. I just have not found wrinkle paint for my airbrush yet, but I have not looked hard either.

I frequently use 500W halogen lamps to warm things up. I painted Sunday when the sun came out for a few minutes, and warmed the box to help the green dry. I didn't try pre heating the box before the VHT paint, which may have helped. I've used the PC heat gun for my vise parts before.
 

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Very nice set! I am envious of the ell bar in the 1/2” deep set. Is that original? I have been searching for awhile for that piece
 

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I have several long S-K and other socket set boxes that I keep welding rods in. If anyone wants one just ask and pay shipping. Most are in decent condition.
 

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I suspect that your tools pictured would have come from a set like this.

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Would you mind posting a picture of this box without the tools, I'm curious what the plastic piece looked like. I want to talk to a friend who has done a little vacuum forming, see if this would be an easy project or not. Seems like something workable, but not looking nearly factory, might be within the realm of reasonable.

Seems a few tweaks to make it easier to form (keep all the sockets touching the lid) might not be best, but some compromise between easy and workable might exist.

Thanks
 

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Thanks to you guys, I now know that the double punched sockets were made by S-K. I dug in a socket bin today and pulled out some small 1/2" drive cad plated sockets, missing the 9/16", with 11/16" being the biggest. I don't recall having seen half inch sets that go so small. These sockets are pretty easy to spot in the bins of mostly chrome examples. I dug around trying not to leave any behind.

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The ad in this post a few pages back show that the early sets came with the small sockets. I’m still looking for the early speeder if anybody runs across one.
-Don
I spotted a Craigslist ad for a local estate sale. I’m still about a week away from being willing to go to one but my friend and GJ contributor Shiftless was going after a vise. He spotted an old S-K set and grabbed it for me. It looks to be the same set that 3bay recently posted that was Brazil marked. I had found a lot of the tools a few years back an another local estate sale so I was able to fill in most of the missing pieces. I’m missing the speeder, plug and some 8 point sockets. The 1936 newspaper ad was posted upthread by Leviton.

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Thank you for the information, Don. That's a cool ad from 1936. It is funny to see a 1/2" set go so small. You could probably reach maximum torque for those little fasteners spinning the 5/16" alone, without even using the drive tools.

Now I am afraid the old half inch speeder I passed up a week ago may have been your huckleberry. I did not see any kind of markings on it though. Regret *****, but I'm trying to be careful how much stuff I drag home.
 

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Even though I haven’t posted since 10/5, the S-K tools have been gradually rolling in. My mail has been quite delayed by the Caldor fire. Here are some recent arrivals, mostly to complete sets.70689CE3-93A9-485C-B598-3ADE02C210D2.jpeg35329961-5DA4-46AE-896B-9DC5AD0BA954.jpeg17AA219D-9A53-47BC-ADA3-6773D94D949A.jpeg7DE10A03-9ED3-46B6-9C1F-A8B40EDD6C29.jpegE29B8780-9DBD-419F-91FC-A0C8974AD8A3.jpeg184ECCDC-D34B-46B0-8F91-98BFF5EA96DE.jpegC4575F52-9A4B-4CF1-B808-9049563103C3.jpeg1F656EB3-9D6F-4BB9-87CF-0DC08BD0DBC5.jpeg7CAA73FF-51AD-4383-9DBC-E67D7BBA9713.jpeg076CBB34-E9AB-4301-8458-131B331C410A.jpeg
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I bought this lot of early 12 point NOS but slightly rusty 3/8” universal sockets. A quick Evaporust bath got rid of the rust. After upgrading some sets, I have some spares available for trading.
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